Is the decline in men willing to support women proof that society is on the right track?

Question

I will not support women or give them my money.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

No I think it's bad but not from a conservative perspective.

I believe in freedom. That means that people should value freedom. And by that I mean a liberal (not leftist) perspective.

Once upon a time, for mankind to be moral, men had to take care of women. And women the children.

Today, we have resources aplenty. Men no longer HAVE to take care of women.

I don't think men should reject taking care of his wife and kids if that is the life he wants, just because he's mad at feminists or leftists.

And I don't think people should try to force men to take care of women and force women back into the home to care for the children, because any deviation from this setup is a long term recipe for human suffering.

Both camps deny the efficacy of reason.

REASON may as well be a fairytale nothing that does nothing.

But to employ REASON is the only fundamentally correct way for any person to live their life.

And so therefore with REASON all things are possible to mankind.

We are no longer bound by tradition. Liberalism aka freedom and liberty have won the war.

Or maybe the war is still going. I think that most politics are anti liberalism INCLUDING the liberals themselves who are no longer liberals at all in my opinion.

Liberals and conservatives are both conservatives trying to conserve authority's moral position as arbiter of morality and justice.

Morality and justice cannot be had when human beings are allowed to be free in a liberal society.

And there's just a battle going on now for left vs right wing authoritarianism.

And yet. The spirit of liberty seems to have infected every person. And so we are all struggling with our spirit of liberty and out desire for morality and order.

Andres77 · Accepted Answer

The decline in men fathering their children as they should is what led us to this state. Most women (everyone, really) today come from homes where they saw their dad leave and their mom work two jobs just to survive.

Don’t make babies with women you don’t want to marry. Women trying to feel empowered are getting knocked up by boys in their 20-30’s who don’t know how to be men.

beta and race have nothing to do with this. Kids growing up without a good role model are still kids but now have their own money so they do whatever they want and this is what you get. I grew up in a single parent home, abused, poor, struggling. But I won’t repeat that cycle.

BE the man/dad that I needed. You might not agree with the women in the West today but you’re responsible for yourself. Be a better self and not a whiner that blames others. If you’re blaming others then you’re still a boy. Men take responsibility and take care of their responsibilities. No whining, no blaming. Stop spending money on stuff you don’t need, take care of your kids, pay your bills, contribute.

you don’t have to agree with how western women are, but you’re not responsible for how they are. You’re responsible for how you act yesterday, today and forever.

Anemone978 · Accepted Answer

It's all down hill since my generation, society is just getting worse, people wanting to get out of their roles of men and women.. its quite pathetic and the downfall to humanity, yet so many are too stupid to see it.

Then people wonder why their children grow up to be rude, slutty, immoral pieces of shit.. Yet their children are all being raised by other people. Since the wife not working and instilling proper morals in your children, taking care of the house and family is doing nothing according to this generation lol
(I seen what happened to my nephew because his parents are always working. He has never respected them since he was able to speak, he argues with both of them all the time especially since being a teenager.. I raised him til he was 3 and he always listened to me even now, but I figured if I am raising a kid (for free) I might as well start my own family because this ain't my responsibility and I left. I didn't realize it would hurt him so much and I do regret that since he ended up with a lot of behaviour problems but he wasn't my kid that they put on me at 20)

chrissykerdock · Accepted Answer

i don't think doing housework is doing nothing... besides a lot of females out earn men... not saying everyone does... there's no concrete answer... but yes men get over and men that do earn money keep it for themselves often... it's really gross how society is going... it's bad for everyone in a lot of ways.

OlderAndWiser · Answer

You don't think you should pay child support?

Anonymous · Answer

The feds know guys like me exist... and they've already paid me a visit once when I was in Texas. I'm a San Francisco native, Little Saigon. Have traveled the world, the son of immigrants, Arab mother. The BEST THING middle America White/Black females can do... is STEER CLEAR OF US.☝️I know one from middle America, landed in S. F., my neighborhood... tried that con guys out money and have em 86'd from her building shit so he couldn't get his money back, lol. But he was Chinese. He waited outside her building... payday... hit her in the face with a sword and busted her fat ass onto the ground bleeding. SFPD came by... didn't even cuff him. Told her to pay him. I won't even (can't on here) describe what I've personally done to a few... but there are 2 different worlds... their middle America trap house, trailer park white/black wannabe gangster bullshit... then our Asian, Arab, Albanian, Russian areas... trust me... NONE OF US... are worried about giving them a GOD DAMNED THING. We're too busy running them out and taking over. They don't work, they don't have heart, half of them can't even read and write and virtually NONE of them can pass a drug test. There's the NE& CA... and everywhere else. They're only big shit in some trailer park in Kentucky or college town in Missouri around some frat boy. Around immigrants... they're non existent. Nobody. I'm just telling you personal experience facts. 46 states and 4 other countries.

EricSummer · Answer

It is a good sign on the way to more equality. A woman and a man can decide to be together without any financial interests. It reminds me of highschool, college and university in Germany where we had basically reached this ideal and would even split restaurant bills or take turns in paying when going out.

However, as soon as you want to have children with the woman there cannot really be equality. A man should be prepared to support the woman emotionally, but even financially. Of course, the man may alternatively be a stay at home dad, for example, but who would really want that? Kids usually bring back more traditional roles and that means more traditional support, too.

In addition, we should never make the mistake to attribute money spent on the kids as "supporting the woman". A man must support his kids, of course, but by extension he should support the mother of his kids as well.

ohsheeT · Answer

Then you are on the wrong track
It means you are a user of people you are a taker of soul and Spirit. You are selfish and may any women see that before they get involved with you.

For me when I have a women in my life it's because I like or love her because I want a future with her and we both have the same goals. As one she is an off set of me. And to get to our goal. What is mine is hers. We work together in everyway to build and become one..

Your on the track to not only bring women down but also men but only men like your self.

The right track would be all the selfish men women haters get on the track with you and take your self to the middle of the ocean and be dropped off you get 1 phone call to that women to now see if will support you.. maybe with a life best or a rock

RealMarek · Answer

It’s bad because it is not due to some sort of newfound fairness but because our filthy elites undermined stable community and clan structures, propagandized people to pursue fulfillment through career, flooded the market with foreign labor and offshored jobs, encouraged planned obsolescence of expensive goods, and grossly inflated the dollar: Basically reduced the value of labor and drove consumerism so much that few families can live on one income anymore. This is a huge transfer of wealth from almost everyone to the current elites. This has as much to do with men not supporting women now as unfair alimony laws, which is another factor. So of our elites I will repeat: Clear them out!

Billlewis · Answer

Your question should have been worded this way -- 'is the fact that men are so easily able to get sex that they're no longer interested in a meaningful relationship with a woman an indication that society is doomed?'

Lionman95 · Answer

No it´s not. It´s rather the opposite since people need each other in some way. Some people might not fit in the category they are rather the ones that stay single for life or don´t have longterm relationships. I think it´s a sign of individualism and seperation of society that turns people away from others.
It´s a I, myself, me-culture that´s not healthy in the future.

DextroShade · Answer

The problem is that most of these women who want to be supported aren't worthy of being wives: many are fat, most have high body counts, they can't or won't cook or clean, a lot of them are baby mommas, and the number that have engaged in sex work like OnlyFans is increasing. They also think that they should not have to submit to their man who is paying for everything. Why would any guy in his right mind support that?

disgustingweebtrash · Answer

Equality of the sexes did not come with equality of responsibility. Why expect men to be responsible when we do not expect women to have the same responsibilities? Anyway, egalitarianism is a western social construct built on western academic bias, outside of the west no one believes a woman is equal to a man. It's more accurate to believe they complete each other.

LazerBean · Answer

No, the decline in men with values and value is just a consequence of a promiscuous society.

Anonymous · Answer

Women can support themselves now. Men don’t have to commit to get easy sex so unless a man wants a family to worry about, life has never been better. Unfortunately it’s a very shortsighted mindset for both sexes who will live long enough just to realize their selfish choices actually doomed society and will end up setting humanity back a century of progress.

Anonymous · Answer

The fact you didn’t list “no” as an answer speaks volumes. You clearly think men shouldn’t support women. I think we (men) should take responsibility for situations we help create. If we cause a girl to be pregnant we should help raise the child that is as much ours at the end of the day as hers. Yes, there are women who will say they don’t need or want our support, which shows their character in a good way, but that doesn’t take away our responsibility.

CupcakeTheDestroyer · Answer

It’s more a sign that no one but the wealthy could do that, it’s a sign of the gap between classes and how the middle class is slowly disappearing and making things worse

Anonymous · Answer

I will not support women or give them my money. Then they shouldn’t sleep with you. Because a man with no resources can’t feed his own offspring.

MikeInHawaii · Answer

Is she the mother of his small children? Then he should support her. If they either don’t have kids or the children have grown, she probably needs to get a job.
if I was wealthy and she was frugal, I’d be okay with her not working, too.

sheenagwapa · Answer

i need support of men. i benefited from the support of men. i am thankful for their support.

jshm2 · Answer

You sound like a dick, kiddo. No one needs your support. If anything, you need support.

Anonymous · Answer

I would not say that society is on the 'right track', but it is women and society that have caused men to act this way by denigrating them at every turn and seeing the as nothing but ambulatory ATM's for which they get nothing in return.

WhiteBorr · Answer

Men should support women. Men should provide for women. Women should support the family and their man's ability to go out and earn a living for the family. I'm old school.

Anonymous · Answer

If you say it is, then that's what you believe and nobody is going to make the effort to convince you otherwise.

Cvm567 · Answer

Society would be on the right track if one sex doesn’t feel the need to put the other one down in order for one of the sexes to advance. But that’s a tall task for either one.

AngryCarl2 · Answer

No, it's a sign the economy has declined to the point where every family needs two incomes.

adidas0169 · Answer

I don't see there is a decline of men but a major decline in masculinity of guys mainly in the US.

Hispanic-Cool-Guy · Answer

Any man that gives money to women not his mom or family is an idiot.

Anonymous · Answer

many men can barely even support themselves nowadays xd

Anonymous · Answer

More like we're producing a society of beta males who's girlfriends/wives run the show.

Kingofkings1992 · Answer

Way to leave people who disagree a viable option dickhead.

Anonymous · Answer

Why are there so many misogynistic douchebags on gag?

Anonymous · Answer

I am confused as to why you think women are waiting for your support/money lmao… we are good💀

Adaeva · Answer

No, it means the world is overpopulated.

gothbxtch · Answer

just say you hate us and go

Ms_Facesitter · Answer

I don't know. Why would that be the right track?

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