Why do women think feelings are more important than facts?

[YAsQuen]

U always hear women complain about the fact that they feel unsafe leaving their house at night. They use this as to inwoke pity in you and make them win the argument about how oppressed women are in modern society.

But if u look at statistics it becomes a mute point since men are much much more likely to encounter a bad situation when leaving their house. But men do not care. But since women care about it a lot it becomes as bad or way worse.

Hence my question: Should we allow women to put their feefes over facts.

They dont think but are domesticated by the modern media environment

They dont care about the facts

They mostly dont care about the facts

They will always argue in their favour no matter the situation

[Anonymous]

For want of a better analogy Women's operating system is driven by emotions/feelings which heighten responses to what they see in the Main Stream Media, which tends to focus on bad news, with little if any good news, It doesn't help that anything on Main Stream Media is slanted one way or another politically, which results in a distorted picture of the world which women consider to be the TRUTH even when it bares no relationship to what actually going on, for instance during the C19 outbreak CNN put a 'Death Counter' on the screen 24/7 which made the outbreak seem more dangerous than it actually was because deaths were being reported as a C19 death up to 28 days of a person being a C19 contact, even if the death was a result of the person falling down stairs, being run down by a bus, a heart attack, the list is endless but the were all reported as a C19 death which CNN added to their 'Death Counter', its all a matter of perspective, which in women has a huge emotional component.

[boggboss]

Yes men get attacked more then women but it dont chamge the fact u and me both don't have the fear of leaving a house at night and getting raped that is a fact male in male crime is higher but most guys also don't have the fear that we will get attacked when leaving the house because the stat don't equate to the fear that comes with it

[YAsQuen]

Y hence my question why can women complain about something that they are statisticly less likely the victim off by envoking their feefes.

Can u not see how that is illogical.

[boggboss]

Because its based on emotions with are irrelevant to logice fear of certain things ate not logical but u can't just turn that fear or feeling off some people are scared of spiders I'm scared of heights I can't say body we are not going to fall off the stairs so stop trembling but it dont work like that women have a fear of being sexualy assaulted saying but it's not likely dont make that feeling go away

[YAsQuen]

Im in no way saying they are supposed to turn of their emotions. But to use them in an argument is void and illogical is all im saying.

[boggboss]

Its not tho because being less Lilley to be assaulted dont mean u won't be assaulted the facts are that women do get assaulted yes its to a less degree then men but it dont mean its not somthing they can talk about or be fearful of or want to change

[HelpfulWoman]

"men get attacked" so women can't feel unsafe?

that's some gaslighting if I've ever heard of it...

I see in all your other comments though that you're not looking for a conversation on it, and all women you gaslight further. So have a nice day

[YAsQuen]

i mentioned plenty of times that its completly fine if women FEEL unsafe. I also said it doesn't constitute a valid argument. Thats all im saying. Im saying feelings dont constitute valid arguments.

[LazerBean]

The same reason you and your kind do it. Because y'all are emotionally, whiney, and have victim mentality.

[YAsQuen]

Im 100 percent with you when u r saying that men can and will be emotional in arguments but i think its ludicrous to compare the two genders on this topic.

>And even one step removed. What men get emotional about is rooted firmly in reality most of the time.

[LazerBean]

In this day and age, the men are nearly just as emotionally weak as women. When men get emotional, most of the time it's because they can't handle someone pointing out their failures.

[YAsQuen]

First of all i dont agrre with ur first statement. I do however agree with ur second. As i said when men get emotional its at least rooted in reality.

Which is not the case for women plu they get more often emotional overall.

[LazerBean]

Do agree that women get more emotional overall, since they are biologically supposed to. But the gap between genders is closing every year, and mosten are essentially women when it comes to emotions. Especially low marriage value men (men who don't marry as virgins) . I've lost count of how many whores have had a fit of denial then eventually blocked me because I pointed out that they are just as worthless as the women that they like to complain about. The fact is that the majority of men whine just as much as women, including you. As is exampled by your constant stream of feminist-level whining about women.

[YAsQuen]

so your only gonna marry a virgin husband? Is that ur only criteria? Interesting u rarely hear that nowadays.

Im just asking questions cuz im bored lady ur free to read into them whatever u like.

Men even nowadays whine less. Its just that when thy whine its way worse than when women whine. Its completly fine to be a emotional bum aslong as ur female.

[LazerBean]

I DID marry a virgin husband. And of course that was not my only criteria. And being bored often is a sign of poor parenting. Smh.

[YAsQuen]

what denomination are u guys? U guys seem pretty strict.

[LazerBean]

He's baptist, I'm non denominational. We aren't strict, we just don't do stupid things that permanently and irreparably damage us

[YAsQuen]

We do live in Sodom dont we. Not every part of the us but the coasts for sure.

[LazerBean]

It's not too bad where we live, but yeah it's gotten bad. It's a sad society when 2 is considered a low body count.

[LiamJHayden]

"U always hear women complain..."

Actually I only hear this occasionally, but then I do not seek it out to confirm any bias.

"But if u look at statistics it becomes a mute point since men are much much more likely to encounter a bad situation when leaving their house."

True overall, but ignores the dynamics of things like gang-on-gang violence and that a lot of dudes bring it upon themselves by escalating minor offenses into fistfights."Hence my question: Should we allow women to put their feefes over facts."

No, but neither should the facts be skewed or taken out of context to try to prove a point.

[YAsQuen]

hot response first of all

Its commonely listed as one of the reasons women are oppressed in society.

Can i then say women provoke by dressing skimpily and being outside alone?

yes very fair. Actually ur response makes me horny

[lightbulb27]

they don't think they are more important, they feel they are:-)

Because some women use their well tuned senses and emotions to make decisions about survival and propagation. Those emotions are much quicker than logical decisions and tuned over 1000's years.

[KateDemee]

I can see what you are trying to say here and I partly agree that sometimes feelings get in the way of logic and I'm sure it probably is more likely for a man to be in a bad situation than a woman as some stated. But one thing you are missing whether it's male or female it does not matter because if someone is scared and has feelings of being unsafe their feeling are VALID to them no matter what. Logic does not come into it. Of someone feels unsafe then that feeling to them IS VALID

[YAsQuen]

there feelings are valid as in they carry the same weight as facts in an argument?

[KateDemee]

No. Exactly what I said. Everyone's feelings about feeling unsafe are valid. You are now doing the exact thing you are complaining about. Using feelings in an argument instead of reading my words

[KateDemee]

You know exactly what I said but you are trying to turn it around :)

[YAsQuen]

what happens if i feel women are stupid? ( I dont)
Does that mean that feeling is valid and equal to a fact?

[KateDemee]

No I never said it is equal to a fact. I said that feeling is valid to you and it is valid to you. It may not be correct but it's valid to you as a feeling

[YAsQuen]

I feel like im a 10/10 am ia demigod? You know valid feefes

[YAsQuen]

There is people that feel their jesus. What about those nutters ahem i meant valid individuals.

[KateDemee]

That feeling would be valid to you yes. I don't know how many ways you want me to answer but yes that FEELING would be valid to YOU :)

[KateDemee]

That feeling to them would be valid to them obviously. We know that they are not jesus but as I said that feeling is obviously valid to them. How can it not be valid to them. It's their feeling

[YAsQuen]

pls answer one of them. Sorry i got a little heated. But i actually didn't get what you were saying.

Im assuming that feelings ARE important and part of the human condition. Which i dont disagree with.

[YAsQuen]

What does valid mean? Does that mean people are supossed to change their actions accordingly? Or should they only verbally support them. Like what does valid mean.

Serial killers feel like killing. So what now. Like how do their valid feelings influence reality and how should they influence reality.

Basically what do you mean i dont understand

[pickles77]

I think she means that the feeling comes from you so you agree with it. Even if it’s nots true or your not sure if it’s true you at least agree with the utility of it. For example thinking your a 10/10 might not be true but it’s utility could be confidence. Or fearing what’s outside may or may not be true but it will help you stay alert and keep you safe.

[YAsQuen]

@pickles77 but thats illogical. Im fine with it it aslong as u accept the fact that its illogical.

[pickles77]

I mean there’s definitely logic to it. It’s just a different way of thinking. Your prioritizing truth over utility. Take for example that your working in construction on a tall building. Do you know your going to fall off? No. Does it happen often. No. But your still gonna wear the damn harness and follow the safety protocols just in case. Cause if it does happen it only happens to fools.

[YAsQuen]

@pickles77 i have no problem with women taking precautions. But to compare the likelyhood of a violent encounter between men and women based on the fact that women are scared more than men is illogical.

its not quite as extreme but imagine if u were to reccomend this construction worker floaters incase immense rain will cause a situation where he might drown.

The likelyhood of something IS relevant

[pickles77]

Guys start fights with each other that’s usually why there is assault. Women just mind there own business and they don’t know when they could be attacked or raped. It’s just a completely different situation psychologically. It doesn’t mean it happens more. It’s just more unpredictable.

[Anonymous]

Because when men get attacked they have a higher chance of being able to fight back and win. Whereas women are always overpowered in terms of physical strength, the type of “attack” are also usually different with women. I do believe that facts matter more over feelings in certain situations but women are not trying to elicit pity by telling people that they feel unsafe, rather they are just stating an issue and is seeking a solution/looking out for other people…

[YAsQuen]

U just said they are looking for pity to win the argument in fancier words

[Opinion Owner]

Looking for a solution by speaking out doesn’t equate to looking for pity tho. I personally feel unsafe walking alone at night but I still do it anyway, I also talk about my concerns about feeling unsafe with my boyfriend but I’m not expecting him to feel sorry for me or go out of his way to drive me home. I’m just stating facts, it’s valid for people to have a fear of being attacked bcs of how unsafe the world has become for both guys and girls.

I guess guys doesn’t talk about their fear as much probably bcs guys are expected to be tough. Some guys even get made fun of for simply saying that he’s scared that he might get jumped while walking alone at night. Might explain why men appear to “not care” bcs society expects them to. But then again, I remember reading that about 70% of murder victims are women so… women might get attacked less but they end up dead more often than not

[YAsQuen]

men are 90 percent of total murder victims. No ur totally free to talk about how u feel.

Im just saying that when they bring it into a discussion and use it as a crutch to win the argument its illogical to accept that.

[YAsQuen]

U should proly ask ur boyfriend to drive u home honestly enough but thats just me

[Opinion Owner]

Actually men accounts for about 90% of murder perpetrators. I think in the US tho you’re right, more men are killed by other men. In other countries, like in Asia for example, more of the victims were women. I live in an Asian country and it is definitely more unsafe for women to be out alone especially at night, it’s somewhat “normalized” for a group of guys to molest and harass girls as a joke.

I think it would be too impractical to ask my boyfriend to drive me home tho lol I work on the opposite end of the city (about 1 hr drive from where he lives) so it’ll be too much of a hassle. He does sometime pick me up which I greatly appreciate!

[YAsQuen]

YA no idea about asia and how that would change the whole discusion. Something to bring up early on if at all in my opinion since it pretty much changes everything.

Not to mention that ASIA is incredibely broad.

Men are 90 of murderers and murder victims. In the west at least again no idea about asia but i would imagine its about the same but u said it isn't so yeah.

Molesting and harrasing are two completly differnt pair shoes. Not fair to throw those two together. I can hardly imagine that any society has normalized molesting over there. (because something happens doesn't mean its normalized) It means the average dad would be fine with his daughter being molested which is a ludicrous statement.

[Opinion Owner]

Yeah I’m not comfortable disclosing which country I live in so I left it as “Asia” in general 😆

Harassment and molestations are sadly pretty normalized here tho. I got groped, catcalled, stalked and had some old guy put his hand inside my panties while I was wearing a dress and people around me just brushed it off as “it happens”. I even told my parents and friends (both male and female) about it and they just shrugged it off as being “one of the dreadful parts of using public transport”. And if I go to the police about it they’ll just laugh it off lol I’ve had that happen to friends. It’s the reality in some cultures I guess.

Pretty much why I said most women experience a different kind of “attack” than man does. I’ve only lived in the states for a couple of years but I got groped and harassed a handful of times, I’ve kinda accepted it as part of the reality of being a woman

[YAsQuen]

yeah i dont buy it something is fishy. India obviously

[Opinion Owner]

Nope, it starts with an S. But it’s been nice hearing your opinion from the opposite side tho, gg!

[YAsQuen]

I hope guys are alright in s********. Western news dont tell about a comfortable situation over there.

[IslaTheWitch]

In the end, we are left with our feelings, not facts, right?

I wouldn't say facts are less important, at least for me. I base on facts. But taking my fierce temper into consideration I have to care of my emotions also.

[YAsQuen]

descision making based on feelings will lead to bad outcomes. As simple as that.

[IslaTheWitch]

The question wasn't about decision-making. It was about arguments.

[Anemone978]

I'm not that scared to go out at night but that is because I am always prepared to murder if I have to.. :P As for women being oppressed we sort of are, men will never be oppressed that is the difference because you are the stronger species..

[YAsQuen]

there is more than physical strenght when it comes to the wrangling of power. Go outside. Its all thought violence now. Womens territory.

[Anemone978]

Has there ever been an American president? No.. Who runs most businesses? Men.. Who are the most richest in the world?

[Anemone978]

a woman president xD

[YAsQuen]

there is so much wrongg with ur statements it hard to tell where i should start.

I guess very basic questions first. Do you think men and women ARE different. If yes, how so.

[Anemone978]

Yes..
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[YAsQuen]

im not gonna go into too much detail here and just take the win.

Given that men and women are different would we expect the same outcomes in every category?

[Anemone978]

Obviously not.. but because we are naturally weaker it is easier to keep us down..

[YAsQuen]

Who is physically dominating women to precent them from becoming president? Are u serious right now.

How about women and men have different strenghts and will excel in different fields.

[Anemone978]

No one is but women are sort of pushed to not succeed as much as men are pushed... and then men do not like to vote for a women leader.. if you notice women have to be bitches to make it far in life because men treat us less then them and treat us like we are stupid very often..
But yes women do not chose to go into a lot of fields men go into.. that isn't men's fault that is ours lol

[YAsQuen]

Biology:
men are `pushed`into being succesfull becaue if they are not they can't be part of polite society.
Women aren't pushed into that direction because noone cares if a woman earns much.

Her money is her money. But his money is our money

Also society is pushing women hard. Which is way men have been falling behind for years now. Women under 30 earn more than men in big cities. The propaganda machine won't tell you the truth.

But the sad reality is that rich women aren't attractive for being rich like rich men are.

Women and men have differnt preferences in their partners.

Stability vs Fertility.

Biology explains most of it.

[SUMAIREBRAHIM]

Do you have a gun?

[Anemone978]

@SUMAIREBRAHIM Nah no guns lol

[SUMAIREBRAHIM]

Get a gun and avoid shading places u will be fine
Or move to Dubai 😂😂💯 safe
Dubai and Singapore are the safest places I have ever been

[Anemone978]

@SUMAIREBRAHIM LOL nah I'm not worried.. I have never been attacked or anything while out alone..

[SUMAIREBRAHIM]

U won? Bare hand? What's ur height n weight? Ur got background in mma? Boxing or wrestling

[pickles77]

Well the fact is you only need one bad thing to happen to really mess you up so there’s nothing wrong with a woman feeling unsafe especially if she lives in a bad area. Which why people should move. men are part of the issue but not men in general. It’s the culture in that area that makes them unsafe.

[YAsQuen]

i never said they shouldn't feel however they feel. Im saying their feelings dont constitute valid arguments

[pickles77]

Well yeah they shouldn’t paint with a broad brush to make there point

[Anonymous]

I mean based off that example I am a lot more nervous going out at night than my boyfriend is. I’ve gotten approached more than he has in those situations (he is generally ignored) and one was dangerous for me which ended me walking alone at night lol. If a man ends up in a bad situation he is generally more likely able to fight back and stand a chance, where generally women wouldn’t

[letthefire80]

It depends on the circumstances really. You wouldn't tell a dying grandmother heaven isn't real.

[YAsQuen]

are u euqating womens average emotional maturity to that of an ailing dying old person? I surely hope not.

your point? Lying is somewhat fine and or justified. Proly agree. I however dont think that this is a rare occurence whatsover. Maybe u can go in depth with the situation provided in the original post. Or provide one yourself.

[letthefire80]

Well it was a rare instance. Of course, women are not a hive mind. I think many men put feelings above facts too. I for one, know that there is a time and place for each.

[Sasha0426]

Then how do you want women to feel when we go out at night?

[YAsQuen]

however they want to.

I dont want them to use their perceived danger as an argument against the fact that men face more violent situations.

again they can feel however they want. They just can't use their feelings as an argument in a discussion.

[SUMAIREBRAHIM]

It's more about how they feel then what it really is..