Are dogs really man's best friend or a menace to society?

[RetroReviews]

This will ruffle a lot of feathers because there's sooo many dog lovers (nuts) in the world. And I feel their opinion will be mostly emotional because of their fondness for their animals. I looked into it objectively sticking to the facts, to me the data overwhelmingly debunks the LIE that dogs are man's best friend. Google dog attacks. In the US alone there are over 12,000 people attacked by a dog everyday. Equaling to 4.5 million every year and it seems to be climbing Some of the individual stories are heartbreaking. Sebastian caban was only 3 days old when the family dog attacked and killed him. The reason for the attack the mother coughed and it startled the dog triggered it just attacked the baby right in front of the parents. They separated the dog from their child and rushed to the hospital but the damage was done Sebastian succumbed to his injuries. Another story a woman was babysitting a couples infant. The family dog they all loved ripped the infant out of her arms and mauled to death. That woman had to call the parents and say like I'm sorry and everything but my dog killed your baby today. What a schmuck! When the tragedies happen these families are in shock and disbelief all saying the same thing the dog never showed any sign of aggression before. This is what happens when you try to blur the lines and live a fantasy saying that the dog is a member of the family and loves us. Then you have Jacqueline Durand the dog loving dog sitter she's unrecognizable now. On a dog sitting gig she was viciously attacked bitten over 800 times reportedly. Thousands of the attacks require surgeries, 30-50 of the attacks result in the dog killing the person sometimes the victim being the loving owner. Insurance companies pay out millions in claims. the phrase dogs are man's best friend is a big lie from hell. Numbers don't lie The data show dogs are a menace to society. Was you aware of the numbers are so high? What are your thoughts.

[exitseven]

Most dogs make good pets. However many breeders mate the bloodlines too close and dogs can be born with brain abnormalities. St Bernard's have hated those issues. Also the environment a dog is brought up in plays a big part. Ooor Commander, a German shepherd who was president Bidens dog bit many secret service agents. It has been speculated that since this is the second dog that Biden owned that displayed this kind of behavior it is probably the treatment he got from Joe Biden that made him mean. The poor dog is probably locked up in the same black hole as the Jan6th protesters. He may never be heard from again

[exitseven]

Thanks for the MHO😎

[goebenbreslau]

animals are not friends. they are just animals. we should let them around only when we need them.

[Siri137]

I wish I could give this a million likes, because you're 100% correct. Dogs are NOT members of the family, NOR do they "love" us. They're animals, they're guided exclusively by instinct, and the reason why so many (silly, in my view) people think their pet loves them is because the pet in question knows how to manipulate them.

You provide the dog with food and shelter and protection, so OF COURSE he/she is going to pretend to love you. Duh! It's not rocket scie... oh wait, I can't use that expression, because rocket science is actually easy. What's hard? Um... It's not binary code :)

[RetroReviews]

Thanks for the thoughts and I wish I could give your take a million thumbs up it's nice to know there's others out there that get it and can see through the lies and deception

[KostasKouvalis]

My favorite are the idiots who drown trying to save their dog, and then their dog makes it to shore🤣

[Siri137]

@KostasKouvalis God yes! LOL. Those idiots DESERVE to drown, as far as I'm concerned. Actually, there was a story I came across on YouTube about a dog owner who jumped into a LAVA lake to save his dog. They both died. It was at Yellowstone.

[RetroReviews]

@KostasKouvalis yeah or I remember a story I think it was in Florida where a woman was trying to protect her dog from the alligator the alligator ended up getting her. To me it's got to be a mental sickness for people to risk their lives for a dog

[KostasKouvalis]

You can't make this shit up😂

[RetroReviews]

Wow seriously? Guess I missed that story now I'm going to look for it

[Siri137]

I hope the alligator didn't wind up with indigestion. That would have been sad :'(

[RetroReviews]

Lol right

[Siri137]

Sorry, it wasn't lava, it was a hot spring.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzlxTm1K6bE

[Siri137]

A woman did it as well. God these people are stupid, LOL :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bUDi_J6aD8

[KostasKouvalis]

😂
My stupid uncle spent $6000 on his dog's cancer treatment and I knew a lady at work, her dog got gored by a deer and she took it to the vet to get it patched up
They both survived, but for THAT much money, I would've let them die. That's like 3 trips.

One of my favorites was this crazy lady at my work who would cry over people driving past a dead dog on the road😂

There was this lady who would come in with this dog that had a jacked up face, my co-worker was so sensitive about that dog, so I would always make the most insulting comments about it just to trigger her🤣

[Siri137]

@KostasKouvalis You're nasty. Then again, so am I :D

[KostasKouvalis]

Then I'm surprised when I get fired😂

[RetroReviews]

@KostasKouvalis wow are you serious $6,000? That's more that I paid for my car

[RetroReviews]

Just watching that guy's wife cry and say he was a hero it's like no your husband was stupid. If it was you or a child then you would call him a hero but for a worthless mutt no dumb as a box of rocks. Good grief

[RetroReviews]

A song I like had a lyric in it that said I love it when you feel like getting nasty it was called push up by freestylers LOL

[Siri137]

I love that song. She's there dancing in the middle of a crowded street in the music clip, and at the end of it hops into a taxi. How did they film that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU01OK3EKvw

[RetroReviews]

Yeah I love that one too that girl really was giving all she had and not caring who was around and what they thought like that boldness. Yeah that was something they pulled that off out the crowded Street and getting in the taxi like that. I made a mixtape of music that is hot and sexy in my mind to play during fun time this song is on that mixtape 😘

[Siri137]

Thanks for the MHO, but it's really not surprising I got it, because my response WAS the best one here! :D

[RetroReviews]

Anytime yes your response was on point 😎

[Ms_Facesitter]

So they say. With great training it'll be a great pet. They're a reflection of their owner, they need a leader. And if you can't be that leader, the dog will run wild. But the problem is that a lot of people don't understand why a dog acts the way it does. Some owners would even treat it like another person, think they think like we do, but that's not the case.

[KostasKouvalis]

So you don't agree that certain breeds are naturally violent?

[RetroReviews]

@KostasKouvalis I'm going to say certain breeds are naturally violent like pit bulls Rottweilers they're at the top of the list when it comes to dog attacks versus say something like a poodle or beagle

[Paul09]

First! Humans created dogs, so we have the take responsibility! Second there's more dumb and evil people around the world over good smart people. So there's a higher chance these dumb people with dogs are bad owners, and the dog will behave horribly. You ca. See his lazy people are to train their dogs. It's silly, Because all it takes is 15 mins a day.. If you get a dog because you think it's cool and all for looks, don't get a dog. If you actually aren't lazy and care for dogs, then you should get a dog. Knowledge is power!

[Anonymous]

I'm sure training has a lot to do with it, but I do believe some breeds are more prone to agression.

My mom was sitting on the couch, tv off, just reading and her pitbull randomly started growling at her. My mom did nothing to provoke that dog. My mom was visibly afraid and I had to get the dog away from her. Normally, the dog is very well behaved & friendly, but some switch just switched.

[RetroReviews]

Definitely the breed of dog plays a big part pitbulls Rottweilers German shepherds, dobermans are the big offenders. But like that with your mom that dog could have attacked her maybe killed her. I'm glad it did not happen but is the desire to have the dog around worth that kind of a risk maybe get a smaller dog that's not aggressive like a beagle that's the only dog I've ever liked

[Opinion Owner]

I'm not crazy about the dog either. I mean, he's a great dog for the right person, but I don't think anyone should have an animal that they can't physically fight off/control when and if needed. She would have been screwed if I wasn't there and her boyfriend isn't home 24/7.

... but it's hers and her boyfriend's dog. All I can do is my put in my two cents, and believe me, I did.

[RetroReviews]

I agree with you 100% don't have an animal that you can't physically overpower if need be.

[RetroReviews]

And kudos for you speaking up and sharing your two cents with them

[Opinion Owner]

Thank you, sir

[RetroReviews]

👍😎

[DryGermanGuy]

How about some dogs of some specific races are a menace to society?

[KostasKouvalis]

Yes, I agree, but there are even dog lovers who disagree with that

[RetroReviews]

That's fair

[RetroReviews]

@KostasKouvalis some dog lovers are sick I seen a story where the family dog killed an 88 year old woman. Even after it killed the woman at drug her corpse around the house by her neck The kids and grandkids begged the authorities not to put the dog down despite it killing their Mom and Grandma. They wanted the dog back

[RetroReviews]

I'll give you that one some breeds are worse than others

[KostasKouvalis]

See, that's the kind of crazy shit I'm talking about

[NathanDavis]

if there's around 5 million people attacked by dogs every year in the USA...

that also means there's 295 million people that are NOT attacked by dogs every year in the USA

so, as a whole... the dogs are not a menace to society

there's bad owners and bad parents as well... in the case of babies and toddlers, one has to be not the best parent if a dangerous enough animal gets a hold of that baby or toddler and on top of that, also had all the time it needs to just kill them

[RetroReviews]

So 5 million people attacked thousands of them physically disfigured and mentally scarred for life 30 to 50 of the people dead millions of dollars paid out by insurance claims and you're okay with that? That's an acceptable ratio. Simply numbers game. But I wonder if your feelings will change if someone that you care about was viciously attacked or killed by a dog. because when it becomes personal it does change ones outlook on things

[NathanDavis]

I would never blame the dog though...

I would blame myself for being that stupid... and I would blame the owners of that dog too

[NathanDavis]

people die in some many ways all the time... but I do not see you posting about pools

or cars... or stairs, or anything else

you just seem to have a very unreasonable hatred and resentment towards all of the dogs that never did anything wrong to nobody

[RetroReviews]

There's one big contrasting difference between cars pools stairs and dogs everybody is warned about the dangers of pools and cars and stairs that you have to be cautious or you could get hurt. With dogs that is not the case we are fed the LIE that they are our best friend they love us they are devoted to us they will protect us when all the time when your back is turned they could very well try to kill you that is the big difference my friend. Nobody tries to lie about cars or pools or stairs and saying oh you will never get hurt no matter what

[NathanDavis]

seek therapy

[RetroReviews]

Wake up and smell the coffee and take the blinders off

[NathanDavis]

welcome to G@G sir...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qEFFR8gX6k

[GuyAnswersGirls123]

Dogs and cats can both be awesome companions. But you have to be a responsible owner. There are lots of irresponsible owners who don't train their dogs when they're vicious around other people, e. g.

To me it's even more irresponsible than a bad parent who raises a serial killer because dogs aren't that complicated. We don't have to send them to school. We don't have to educate them for years upon years. A dog owner whose dog attacks other people like this just sucks. Don't blame the dog, blame the owner.

[GuyAnswersGirls123]

Also responsible owners don't keep dogs around babies and toddlers. That's just common sense. Same with cats. Also alligators.

[RetroReviews]

Well that's the thing there's so many irresponsible pet owners so many irresponsible parents then throw in the fact that these animals are unpredictable regardless of their training or environment or treatment they can still turn on you. It's happened several times where a dog has turned on its loving owner even though it was not abused or anything like that

[GuyAnswersGirls123]

I can understand with the big ones. My favorite though is Chihuahuas! An Oekaki sketch from mine from my teenage years (RIP):


Chuhus get a bad rep but they can be so docile and cuddly with the right training. It's like they're so small so they're very afraid of everyone else so you have to train them when young to get used to everyone else, as well as other dogs.

[jshm2]

The problem as always is the people with the dogs, not the dogs alone. These aren't "wild" dogs appearing out the woods and attacking. These are so called "pets" and thus the people need to be held responsible as much as the animal.

[IslaTheWitch]

dog needs to be raised and trained correctly to accept the leadership of the human in its pack.

Leaving kids with dogs alone can end with a fight for dominance... or stupid play...

dogs are great and friendly... but they are not humans. They must be treated in a specific way to ensure they know and accept their position in the pack.

[RetroReviews]

But people have done all those things you mentioned then dogs still have attacked there's no guarantee no matter what you do that they won't turn on you

[IslaTheWitch]

then you keep it on a leash and and put on the muzzle

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Dogs are amazing but leaving small kids around big dogs is stupid as dogs are still animals and have animal instincts.

[RetroReviews]

Some dogs might be amazing but I'm not going to say all of them are because they even attack adults and the elderly also. Seen a girl in her 20s she loved her dog so much she leaned into give it a kiss it bit her upper lip off. That's the biggest problem I see is that people try to live a fantasy and not realize they're still an animal but they want to think oh no it's not just an animal it's my family member that loves me. And yes big dogs around little kids is ignorant of the parents

[Taniisokay]

Adopt cats folks!

[Siri137]

Yes, cats are much better pets, if only because you know exactly what to expect from them.

[RetroReviews]

Cats would be the better option personally when I did have a pet it was an aquarium full of fish

[boobliker]

yes, but that is the human MAN, the photo is sad I feel for her.

[RetroReviews]

Yes sadly that is one of so many thousands of kids that are viciously attacked by these creatures. My thing is after happening so many times why are parents still so trusting of these animals. It's like it has to happen to you personally but then it's too late the damage is done

[boobliker]

I had pit bulls and staffs most of my life and it is not the dog as my 2-year-old could pull one along by his tongue we had to keep telling her not to over and over and the dog did not like me telling her off

[RetroReviews]

Well that is very fortunate glad nothing happened but to me with dogs you just never know. Almost like flipping a coin could be like your situation nothing happened everything was still okay and then you have this situations that are the total opposite. Or something did happen and it wasn't even provoked it's just so unpredictable

[Phoenix98]

Dogs actions are largely dependent upon the owner the dogs own surroundings and the training they receive if a dog acts up it's 90% of the time it's the fault of the owner.

[RetroReviews]

Yeah I'm going to disagree or with you on that one because I've seen stories where the family dog attacked a member of the family. They did not abuse the dog they took good care of it showed it lots of love and affection spent lots of money on its care and maintenance. But despite all that just one day out of the blue the dog attacked. I haven't seen a woman where she loved her dog so much she even created a Instagram page for her dog but one day she leaned in to give it a kiss and it bit upper lip off

[Phoenix98]

There are also plenty of explanations for that as well.

Also keep in mind I said most of the time it's the fault of the owner. Nothing is a sure thing in life.

[RetroReviews]

Yeah I get that. But for me with these dog attacks happening as often as they are it's like just know you're taking a risk gambling the safety and well-being of yourself and the ones you care about over a mutt. It's like if there was a new microwave that had malfunctions the manufacturer said there's a chance it could blow up and if you're close to it when it happens it could kill you but there's only a 30% chance that it will happen but just know it could happen but you still want that microwave? You still going to say sure I'll take it it's worth the risk

[Phoenix98]

I don't know man I've had 4 dogs and never had that issue I've never known anyone with that issue either.

And yeah 12,000 attacks a year sounds like a lot until you consider that there are 89.7 million dogs owned dogs in the US. And even at 4,380,000 attacks a year that's only roughly 5%.

Life in general is a calculated risk it's a gamble every time you go to bed or wake up. Every day there's a chance you may not wake up, or that you could get into an accident or die or be killed/injured by something or someone, get sick or any number of things. I've almost died a few times and been in a lot of dangerous situations some life or death ones.

So at this point I'm not really worried about that 5%. Especially when I have many more bigger more immediate concerns.

[RetroReviews]

A lot of what you say does make sense if you strictly look at the numbers comparing the number of attacks to the population. And yes no one is promised tomorrow so many things could happen with all that being said all about making smart decisions. And I just find it extremely stupid for people to have vicious aggressive dogs around little kids and babies. Or for elderly women basically to have a dog that if it becomes aggressive you cannot fight it off yourself. I do believe we bring a lot of our misery on ourselves. Not sure what your faith is if you have any but I'm a Bible believing Christian. And Jeremiah chapter 15 verse 3 God himself said dogs are destroyers. They were sent as a judgment against wicked people. In fact I did keyword search on Bible hub and virtually every time the word dog appears in the Bible it's a negative or violent reference of how they're going to devour somebody. Also calls them mutilators of the flesh.

[Phoenix98]

And if folks have dogs that are actually aggressive around their kids then that's on them so again it's on the owner both for having them around their kids and for not properly training them.

And I am a Christian and God also said we have dominion over the earth and all creatures within it to do as we please with.

Also you have to keep in mind that back in the biblical days dogs would have been more vicious because they would have been closer to their wolf ancestors then they are now after going through several thousand more years of selective breeding.

[RetroReviews]

Well it's good to meet you my brother in Christ. Yeah I did a keyword search on Bible hub virtually every time the word dog appears it's always a negative violent reference never aren't they cute cuddly you should have them as pets. Goliath said to David am I a dog you come at me with a stick, a dog returns to its vomit. Outside are the dogs. Then Jeremiah of 15:3 God said he was sending four destroyers dogs was one of them

[Phoenix98]

Well that's all good and well but I'm still gonna enjoy having my dogs as pets.

[SolitarySolace]

Guess we gotta put her down… come on buddy, let’s go to the dog park

[AngryCarl]

People need to be responsible and not own dogs that are bred for fighting. Actually most dog owners are.

[handsomelad70]

They can be either, depending on their handling and treatment.

[vicphilips]

I dont like dogs and I hate them

[RetroReviews]

I'm with you on that one. Another surprising thing I've discovered is a lot of Christians are also dog lovers... Even though the Bible does not speak highly of dogs either. One verse I remember particular is Jeremiah 15:3 God himself called dogs destroyers

[vicphilips]

Cause I love cats so much

[laly520]

the poor baby :(

[Jennifer604]

The either/or way the question is worded presupposes that men aren't a menace to society.

[RetroReviews]

I'm assuming answers like that was maybe how you got blocked by someone already. Statements like that you come across as a feminist man hater

[sirderpsalot123]

Random and obnoxious, lol...

[Jennifer604]

There are dogs who do bad things, and there are men who do bad things. A dog can be a man's best friend and still be a menace to society. It depends on the dog, and it depends on the man. I have no intent to make sweeping generalizations, but there is, in fact, more than one man who have behaved in an antisocial manner. When I say that it should not be assumed that men aren't a menace to society, I simply mean that not all men behave in a way that complies with what some philosophers would call the social contract. Again, I refer to men, but not all men. Just as people have been referring to dogs, but not all dogs. Though I admit that the nuances can be easy to miss between saying something like "Men aren't a menace to society" as being interpreted to mean "No man is a menace to society" or "There are at least two men who aren't a menace to society" or "The average man is not a menace to society". I think most would agree that those last two interpretations would render the statement true, but the first would render it false. Most of the time when someone is trying to paint a picture that "everyone" is a certain way or that everyone who shares a characteristic behaves in the same manner, those are faulty generalizations.

[sirderpsalot123]

Humans are not wired the same way animals are. Any animal can be unpredictable, and some animals can do more damage than others. This is what separates humans from dogs. Men are not dogs and know right from wrong.

[sirderpsalot123]

Let's say a small child is messing with a dog's food vs a random man's food. A man is intelligent enough to know he doesn't have to hurt the kid. A dog only knows one way to protect his food and that's by attacking the kid.

[RetroReviews]

Well the question was strictly about dogs so it's nice if people can stay on topic not sure how really men come into the conversation. I'm assuming you've had some bad experiences with men for you to bring men into the conversation that was about dogs so I'm guess I'm going to ask you a question now to see if you are reasonable are all women good? Or are there some women that are mean? do some women do bad things to like some men do bad things?

[RetroReviews]

@sirderpsalot123 very well said nice to know people have that common Sense still

[RetroReviews]

@sirderpsalot123 right on animals just have their instincts and that's where the problem lies is because people think that animals think and feel like we do as in people calling their dogs their fur babies loving members of the family etc it's like no that is a freaking animal and they are unpredictable

[sirderpsalot123]

I don't think she's a man hater or anything, I just think she's saying (I'm tired so forgive me if I read it wrong and word anything poorly) it isn't ok to generalize men so we shouldn't generalize certain dog breeds. I get the argument she's trying to make, but it isn't a compelling one. People and dogs are very different.

And nobody is saying people shouldn't have these dogs or hate these dogs just for being a dog, we're just saying only certain people should be able to own them. People who can defend themselves if needed.

[sirderpsalot123]

And sorry for calling you obnoxious. I did read that as you just hating on men at first, lol.

[Jennifer604]

Women are bad and mean, too. It's not a gender thing. But men are different from women, and they both are different from dogs. And I think the reason that men entered into the conversation is that the question specifically asked whether dogs are man's best friend, not whether dogs are trustworthy. Obviously dogs can't be expected to abide by the terms of a social construct that is a human idea. Dogs follow their instincts, though they can also be conditioned to behave in certain ways most of the time, especially if such behavior is continually reinforced (by a tasty treat, for example). Dogs can be violent because they are predators by nature (and are just really domesticated descendants of wolves) and violence is the rule in nature, but they also can be violent because people have encouraged violence, whether accidentally or intentionally, and with or without their own knowledge. All I meant was that it was possible for a dog to be aggressive due to the conditioning from an owner who wished to have a fierce animal at his or her command.

[RetroReviews]

Okay yeah that makes sense and it's good to know you feel that way and the phrase man's best friend I think is a generalization it really means mankind's best friend which means men or women. Going to PM you about something

[gorydetails]

Find something else to get butthurt about.

[Redstang88]

12,000/ day? I call BS on that

[RetroReviews]

That's what the data shows over 12,000 and that's just reported. So it's actually probably more than that because many friends and family will say don't you dare report this out of fear for their dog to be taken from them or put down

[Siri137]

A dog lover. You poor, misguided, lost soul.

[WindAtMyBack]

I've seen 4.3M per year number number at the CDC, but it's very old data. I don't know if the number has increased or decreased since then.

[RetroReviews]

@WindAtMyBack that's close what I seen either way it's way too much. It's just alarming that it can happen so often but yet so many people are oblivious to it like completely unaware. It's like how many more times does it have to happen before it gets people's attention

[Redstang88]

I don’t buy that for a second, but I don’t really care either way