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I don't approve of Transgender policies but I never personally witnessed it so I am not certain it is a significant problem.
I think it's a problem, but I will let this article in the New York Times the other day have its say.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/23/world/europe/paris-olympics-transgender-athletes.html
New Study Bolsters Idea of Athletic Differences Between Men and Trans Women
Research financed by the International Olympic Committee introduced new data to the unsettled and fractious debate about bans on transgender athletes.
By Jeré Longman
April 23, 2024
A new study financed by the International Olympic Committee found that transgender female athletes showed greater handgrip strength — an indicator of overall muscle strength — but lower jumping ability, lung function and relative cardiovascular fitness compared with women whose gender was assigned female at birth.
That data, which also compared trans women with men, contradicted a broad claim often made by proponents of rules that bar transgender women from competing in women’s sports. It also led the study’s authors to caution against a rush to expand such policies, which already bar transgender athletes from a handful of Olympic sports.
The study’s most important finding, according to one of its authors, Yannis Pitsiladis, a member of the I. O. C.’s medical and scientific commission, was that, given physiological differences, “Trans women are not biological men.”
Alternately praised and criticized, the study added an intriguing data set to an unsettled and often politicized debate that may only grow louder with the Paris Olympics and a U. S. presidential election approaching.
The authors cautioned against the presumption of immutable and disproportionate advantages for transgender female athletes who compete in women’s sports, and they advised against “precautionary bans and sport eligibility exclusions” that were not based on sport-specific research.
Outright bans, though, continue to proliferate. Twenty-five U. S. states now have laws or regulations barring transgender athletes from competing in girls and women’s sports, according to the Movement Advancement Project, a nonprofit that focuses on gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender parity. And the National Association of Intercollegiate Athletics, the governing body for smaller colleges, this month barred transgender athletes from competing in women’s sports unless their sex was assigned female at birth and they had not undergone hormone therapy.
Two of the most visible sports at this summer’s Paris Games — swimming and track and field — along with cycling have effectively barred transgender female athletes who went through puberty as males. Rugby has instituted a total ban on trans female athletes, citing safety concerns, and those permitted to participate in other sports often face stricter requirements in suppressing their levels of testosterone.
The International Olympic Committee has left eligibility rules for transgender female athletes up to the global federations that govern individual sports. And while the Olympic committee provided financing for the study — as it does on a variety of topics through a research fund — Olympic officials had no input or influence on the results, Dr. Pitsiladis said.
In general, the argument for the bans has been that profound advantages gained from testosterone-fueled male puberty — broader shoulders, bigger hands, longer torsos, and greater muscle mass, strength, bone density and heart and lung capacity — give transgender female athletes an inequitable and largely irreversible competitive edge.
The new laboratory-based, peer-reviewed and I. O. C.-funded study at the University of Brighton, published this month in the British Journal of Sports Medicine, tested 19 cisgender men (those whose gender identity matches the sex they were assigned at birth) and 12 trans men, along with 23 trans women and 21 cisgender women.
All of the participants played competitive sports or underwent physical training at least three times a week. And all of the trans female athletes had undergone at least a year of treatment suppressing their testosterone levels and taking estrogen supplementation, the researchers said. None of the participants were athletes competing at the national or international level.
The study found that transgender female participants showed greater handgrip strength than cisgender female participants but lower lung function and relative VO2 max, the amount of oxygen used when exercising. Transgender female athletes also scored below cisgender women and men on a jumping test that measured lower-body power.
The study acknowledged some limitations, including its small sample size and the fact that the athletes were not followed over the long term as they transitioned. And, as previous research has indicated, it found that transgender female athletes did retain at least one advantage over cisgender female athletes — a measurement of handgrip strength.
But it is a combination of factors, not a single parameter, that determines athletic performance, said Dr. Pitsiladis, a professor of sport and exercise science.
Athletes who grow taller and heavier after going through puberty as males must “carry this big skeleton with a smaller engine” after transitioning, he said. He cited volleyball as an example, saying that, for transgender female athletes, “the jumping and blocking will not be to the same height as they were doing before. And they may find that, overall, their performance is less good.”
But Michael J. Joyner, a doctor at the Mayo Clinic who studies the physiology of male and female athletes, said that, based on his research and the research of others, science supports the bans in elite sports, where events can be decided by the smallest of margins.
“We know testosterone is performance enhancing,” Dr. Joyner said. “And we know testosterone has residual effects.” Additionally, he added, declines in performance by trans women after taking drugs to suppress their testosterone levels do not fully reduce the typical differences in athletic performance between men and women.
Supporters of transgender athletes, and some scientists who disagree with bans, have accused governing bodies and lawmakers of enacting solutions for a problem that doesn’t exist. There are few elite trans female athletes, they have noted. And there has been limited scientific study of presumed unalterable advantages in strength, power and aerobic capacity gained by experiencing puberty as a male.
For those who have competed in the Olympics, results have varied widely. At the 2021 Tokyo Games, Quinn, a soccer player who is trans nonbinary and was assigned female at birth, helped Canada’s team win a gold medal. But Laurel Hubbard, a transgender weight lifter from New Zealand, failed to complete a lift in her event.
“The idea that trans women are going to take over women’s sports is ludicrous,” said Joanna Harper, a leading researcher of trans athletes and a postdoctoral scholar at Oregon Health & Science University.
Dr. Harper, who is transgender, said it was important for sports to consider physiological differences between transgender women and cisgender women and that she supported certain restrictions, such as requiring the suppression of testosterone levels. But she called blanket bans “unnecessary and unjustified” and said she welcomed the I. O. C.-funded study.
“This fear that trans women aren’t really women, that they’re men who are invading women’s sports, and that trans women will carry all of their male athleticism, their athletic capabilities, into women’s sports — neither of those things are true,” Dr. Harper said.
Sebastian Coe, the president of World Athletics, which governs global track and field, acknowledged that the science remains unresolved. But the organization decided to bar transgender female athletes from international track and field, he said, because “I’m not going to take a risk on this.”
“We think this is in the best interest of preserving the female category,” Mr. Coe said.
In at least two prominent cases, the fight over transgender bans has moved to the courts. The former University of Pennsylvania swimmer Lia Thomas is challenging a ban imposed by World Aquatics, swimming’s global governing body, after she won the 500-yard freestyle race at the 2022 N. C. A. A. championships. That victory made Thomas, who had been among the best men’s swimmers in the Ivy League, the first known trans athlete to win a women’s championship event in college sports’ top division.
Thomas did not dominate all of her races, though, finishing tied for fifth in a second race and eighth in a third. Her winning time in the 500 was more than nine seconds slower than the N. C. A. A. record. Her case, filed at the Swiss-based Court of Arbitration for Sport, is not expected to be resolved before the Paris Olympics begin in July.
Meanwhile, more than a dozen current and former U. S. college athletes, including at least one who competed against Thomas, sued the N. C. A. A. last month. They claimed that, by letting Thomas participate in the national championships, the organization had violated their rights under Title IX, the law that prohibits sex discrimination at institutions that receive federal funding. (Title IX has also been relied upon to argue in favor of transgender female athletes.)
Outsports, a website that reports on L. G. B. T. Q. issues, hailed the I. O. C.-funded study as a “landmark” that concluded that “blanket sports bans are a mistake.” But some scientists and athletes called the study deeply flawed in an article in The Telegraph, which labeled the suggestion that transgender women are at a disadvantage in sports a “new low” for the I. O. C.
So heated is the debate that Dr. Pitsiladis said he and his research team have received threats. That, he warned, could lead other scientists to shy away from pursuing research on the topic.
“Why would any scientist do this if you’re going to get totally slammed and character-assassinated?” he said. “This is no longer a science matter. Unfortunately, it’s become a political matter.”
It strips women of opportunity to compete against relatively equal competition and to feel accomplished for winning within their league. It also leads to lost opportunities for college scholarships and other perks that come with winning sporting competitions. Yet, women are the primary party that are responsible for voting in favor of woke politicians. It's self destructive behavior by woman. It doesn't impact me, because I competed in boy's/men's leagues throughout my life and I don't watch women's sports. So if they want to burn their own opportunities, that's up to them. If they keep voting the same way, they are only hurting themselves and their daughters.
Mike Tyson is preparing for a fight with someone I think will kick his ass. It's NOT Modanna
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It's a MAJOR problem. It's an insult to women because transgenders are men, not women.
Men should not be allowed to compete in ANY women's-only events, including sports and beauty pageants.
To the morons who say it's rare or non-existent.
There are many high profile transgenders in "women's" sports, including Veronica Ivy, Lia Thomas, Renée Richards, Layshia Clarendon, Balian Buschbaum, Laurel Hubbard, Jaiyah Saelua, Quinn, Andreas Krieger, Andraya Yearwood, Fallon Fox, Alexia Cerenys, Hannah Mouncey, Natalie van Gogh, Nikki Hiltz, and Savannah Burton. But there are lesser known, so-called trans-women bumping high school and college women out of athletic scholarships.
And there are medically sculpted men competing in women's beauty pageants. Miss Portugal Marina Machete and Miss Netherlands Rikkie Kollé made history as the first trans women representing their countries in the competition.
Kataluna Enriquez made history when she became the first transgender woman to compete in Miss USA.
Monroe Lace, the first non-woman in the Miss San Francisco pageant's 99 year history will compete in the Miss California pageant.
Saskia von Bargen — Germany
Brían Nguyen — United States
Daniela Arroyo González — Puerto Rico
Lehlogonolo Machaba — South Africa
Andréa Furet- France
Angel Lama- Nepal
Actual women aren't even good enough to be women in this trans-humanist age.
It's a travesty!
I think at this time it's not a significant issue as not many people say they are trans and complete in women's sports. But I don't believe they should be allowed to, if you look at the swimming one with Riley gains the guy in question there was ranked somewhere in the 200s as guys and then comes to tie first and be given the trophy cause of politics which is completely unreasonable. I think as well it's worth saying that the changing situation in this situation was completely disgraceful by those running the competition.
The other point I'd say and I apologise if the wording is off but Serena Williams played against a much lower ranked man and lost badly and she was the top female tennis player.
I think when you get polices that allow for men in women's sports it takes the point of having them away, and also makes it so women can't properly compete and then the men can set records that female athletes who are very talented and train hard can't beat.
I may have got a few numbers wrong but this was for memory and if I worded things poorly I'm apologise I'm not great with words. I guess to sum up I think that by allowing men in womens sports it will eventually lead to the end of them.
I've heard of it enough. It should never be allowed, even if it's only a few cases.
Imagine you're a girl and you train your whole life to achieve a gold in some sport of your choice only for that win to be taken by the guy that transitioned and competed that year.
Men and women are physiologically and biologically different. It does not make sense for them to compete in the same sports that test the same physical abilities. But I guess common sense isn't so common and that's why it's taking so long for logic to be understood globally.
It doesn't matter how much hormones you take. After a certain age, the changes to your body growing up as a male will always be with you, the same way if you were to grow up a female for the early parts of your life and transition later to a man.
My gosh…. Women’s sports are for WOMEN! Now you have people claiming to be trans age now. If I say I’m a 12 year old girl I can go play soccer with 12 year old girls now evidently. Most women don’t wanna play sports with men and shower with them. Maybe some are scared and don’t wanna say anything. But my goodness.
I’m sick and tired of it. If you wanna go make a coed team or you wanna make a team for transgenders. Okay…. You can choose to play in that or not.
Womens sports are for WOMEN… also putting girls on boys football teams it’s all getting so insane now
... or females to compete in males sports.
There are two major issues in either case. Competition and representation
Competition is the easy one as males have the biological advantage. It lessens the work the females put into their sport. They will never be able to compete on an equal level.
Representation is the more difficult one as you're effectively forcing females to accept a biological male is "best" at their sport. Likewise forcing males to accept a female is "best" as their sport. This builds resentment and hostility. The whole idea of sport is that you can work hard enough to beat the others.
Even if trans women outnumbered biological women in women’s sports, it would still be a ridiculous issue.
If your biggest problem in life is whether or not the big b*tch on the other team was born with a penis, you are so far beyond privileged that there isn’t a word for that yet. Tens of thousands of boys and men living and dying on the streets because the majority of shelters are for women and children only. But we’re supposed to prioritize time, money and energy to make TERFs feel like their softball league is “fair”? War, famine and unprecedented greed crumbling economies and societies around the globe. But whether or not girly men should compete with manly girls gets the spotlight? Ell oh ell!
so over half in high school try for some sort of sport. So 2% of high-school are transgenger. so probably 1% of transgenger want to play sports.
Ultimately if the whole sport creates 1% of professional career and 1% of 1% out preform the average the committee can fairly make a ruling. The reality is the other 50% is out passing the a random 1% of trans individuals and that trans should be able to try there best like everyone in high school athletes.
Its a internal matter as long as they compete in national competitions but in Olympics or other international competitions bringing men to women's sport gives the countries that do that a unfair advantage.
Its comparable to using a new doping that hasn't been banned yet.
It's rare but the media is trying to make it a problem because it is one of the few topic on which democrats and progressives are divided.
Trans are ruinning female sports, it seems pretty important to me, tranwomen are men.
A major problem is famine and war. If all sports ended tomorrow I wouldn't consider it a major problem. I don't mind it. It's funny to watch the hypocrisy unfold.
If it causes even one biological woman to lose out to a biological man it is a problem for the sport.
It's one of many things demonstrating social media has rotted people's brains and encouraged low grade thinking.
We have women's categories for a reason. Trans is not it.
It a problem when a female high school athlete loses a scholarship to a transgender athlete then can’t afford the college she wished for.
It's rare and I am very liberal but GET THE GUYS OUT OF WOMANS SPIRTS! It's wrong. Just wrong.
Woman are obsolete. Men do it better. We have sex robots and AI. Artificial wombs. Women are completely obsolete
Any time that it takes an athletic record or college scholarship away from a biological female. There is a problem in my book!📕
It is a problem because it will distort the records tables going forward
It is a problem but in context not a major one
Not to me. No one's really watching women sports anyhow. This might spice them up a bit.😆
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