Repeal the 19th?
I have two reasons I do not support this type of idea.
The main reason is that I do not think there should be a draft for anybody ever. If everybody agrees we need to fight, for example if somebody is invading our country, there will be more than enough people willing to fight. If not enough people are willing to fight, that is prob. because they do not think it is a war worth fighting which seems to me to be the more common type of war in recent years.
The other reason is that I can just say honestly that sending me with an army to fight some other country would be a minus. I would not be good at it, would not want to be there, and it would prob. distract other soldiers, and if it’s not just me but a whole lot of people similar to me the problem is that much bigger. Even in a giant war like world war 2 not everybody was in the army, you need people doing other things as well and I would be a lot more helpful doing some of those other things, like I could be a nurse or I could help build airplanes or whatever.00 Reply
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2.8K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Against. I will not fight for this country.
The politicians and the population who support them are guilty of treason.
This country is actively against me, working against my interests.
We let in 700k a year net. House prices have become stupidly expensive. They quantitatively eased to the tune of 900 billion, essentially making our money worthless. All for a bad flu season. They paid healthy people to sit at home, with my taxes, now the country has a national debt of 100% of gdp. They coerced people to get a novel experimental medical intervention, rather than telling them what was really necessary, to lose some weight. Get on a treadmill.
They have effectively criminalised protest. You're more likely to be arrested for posting something naughty on twitter than committing a burglary. I get totally buggered in taxes to support the third world, to bring up their kids. Why would I fight for a country that does not have freedom of speech?
Art and culture are also dead here. There's no good comedy. When I turn on the TV, I often think I'm watching Nigerian TV. They have all this wokeism juxtaposed against the Pre-Raphaelites. Tis an interesting contrast. Cause you can see art and culture contrasted against stark, literal, garbage.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yAlthough I am in favor of repealing the 19th along with any other federal involvement or requirement on any individual activity including voting, which should be left to the States so that corruption can be manageable.
I am as much against a federal draft for the same reason. I recognize the need for the federal goverment to create a armies but I also think it should be done as it was originally by way of asking the States to raise troops.
As such the draft should be as it was originally a State issue of calling people up for militia service. It is likewise under that same militia service's constitutional limits that all individuals so drafted must be used.
That some states would require a little more effort if they don't outright refuse is a key safety measure. A standing army after all is the single greatest threat to any republic or democracy (if democracies didn't murder themselfs regardless). Keeping it at least nominally in many hands rather than 1 is the best security we have for its day to day management.This of course presumes of course that the feds let the Federal army collapse after every war as they did until world war 2.
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2.1K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. A person should not have to sign up for the draft in order to vote! Voting is a privilege.
Signing up for the draft should have nothing to do with voting!
It's not if you vote you're going to get a new car or something. It means you might have to go to war and possibly die. It's a lot to consider.
I think it will deter a lot of people from voting. They might just say forget it.
This is not a good idea at all no matter what gender you are! And this shouldn't be about gender either!
So, it's three separate issues.
There are many, many women serving in our military🇺🇸. God bless all of the people in our military.20 Reply
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+1 yI don’t care about voting anyways, politicians on the right and left buy their votes 🗳️ The government is seen as a God by the public, do as you’re told and say. Governments will tell us to vote for them but barely fix anything and not hold true to their promises. Meanwhile those same politicians will initiate war to risk their life for “democracy”, what democracy? So the super ultra rich and power live and peasants die? No thanks. I would not fight for a country that commits genocide and terrorist and deem that as patriotism and freedom.
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+1 yPoliticians would be less inclined to rush to war if they never had a supply of cannon fodder. Why do we need to spend billions on maintaining an army if you can just conscript people and have them ready to fight in a few weeks? It seems silly that at the moment the military rejects loads of willing potential recruits yet will draft in any fat Fecker when things kick off.
As for voting, turn out is so low anyway its hard to see how one vote every 4 years is much of a bribe.32 Reply- +1 y
Vietnam proves conscription doesn't work. America had access to millions of fighting age men but they still lost.
If the options are women ages 18-25 register for the draft or all women are denied the right to vote, obviously I'd rather register.
I don't see why there couldn't be the option of stop forcing men ages 18-25 to register for the draft though. Let people register voluntarily—of both sexes—or just be done with it. It's not like a draft will even be very effective if it ever has to be done again anyway. It's kind of pointless now.
20 Reply2.8K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Against, democracy should not force me to do something I do not wish to do. My body is my body, and I should have a right to say what kind of rules are imposed on it regardless if I make myself available or not. Anything that is not democratic I refuse to comply with by default.
10 Reply6K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Fuck the fucking draft. I'm not the government's property.
I don't even care that much about voting. It's a sham to make people think that they are participating in our republic. The parties pick two puppets to prop up in front of us and then say "Look. You have a choice."10 Reply- 4.9K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
+1 yobviously not. the whole point of a republic is the public i mean citizens, not non citizens with photo i. d., choose the leaders.
there can't be any conditions if own property if have college degree nor army nor any!
and which country has a draft now for army?
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+1 yNah, not with "my" current government. I do not wish to instantly become cannon fodder for some foreign government's benefit. However, it might work wonders under Trump - though after the bloodbath of the war with China that he's going to launch, isolationist and pacifist governments would repeatedly get elected for the foreseeable future with such a voting body. Well... The whole world would catch a breath, only to catch fire moments later, I guess.
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"it might work wonders in the US under Trump"*
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+1 yEveryone needs skin in the game. Voting is treated like a game these days and it has lasting global impacts. We need more informed people voting and less ignorant young voters voting for someone because an influencer or their parents told them to.
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+1 yThat'd include the infirm and incapable, as well as most of the population. No country can have the majority of the population fight, it depletes society of a working force and if a war is lost, of the population overall. Then what are we protecting? So it wouldn't make sense.
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They wouldn’t have to fight on the front lines I’m sure they’d be able to do something the point is doing something to serve the country in order to vote instead of just having a vagina
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@ManInChains You're still including too much of the popolous with that broad legislation for it to even be practical or feasible.
11.9K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Against. Everyone has a say in how theyte governed and by whom. Making us sign a contract to force us to die overseas isn't acceptable. Fuck the draft.
32 Reply11.6K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. For it. If women want equality, let them have equal responsibility to go with it, and they too should die for the rich and the corporations.
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+1 yI'm for it. If you want to vote on policy you should have some skin in the game. Not only should you be draftable but you should also have to be a net tax payer.
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+1 yOur rights deserve to be given without any contingencies. Especially if we are talking about equal rights to others with different backgrounds.
10 Reply 817 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Hahaha it's too late I'm already registered but sure I know the war is coming up. I would join, get the training and then use my skills to survive the Armageddon
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+1 yIn favor IF candidates also had to have served meaningfully. If not, it’s just another means to marginalize people.
10 Reply 2.4K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Pah. I don't care either way.
To me it's all a distraction of a much bigger insidious issue, where the true rulers (or the matrix people) are hidden and the political parties are their diversions.
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They’re not hidden. They don’t need to be. They have too much power to be afraid of the light.
8.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I would prefer if selective service isn't mandatory for either sex but I'll take that over what we have now. Service guarantees citizenship makes a lot more sense now that we have seen the advent if the 2010s and 20s
10 Reply12.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. If we go to war, yes. The Feds should draft women for government service during e=wartime but drop the DEI bullshit.
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+1 yThe decent women in the military are amazing
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+1 yFor it. Women want equality. They can have it. If women don't want that then they know their place and best start acting like it
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+1 yIf that happened I would move 😂 drafts shouldn't be a thing at all.
00 Reply 4.6K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Involuntary servitude is slavery. A hardy "fuck you" to anyone who wants to enslave me.
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You had to sign up for the draft didn’t you? I did. My dad told me I had to and made me sign up online. I had no choice. I’m sure he had no choice either. Why do you think I’m in chains?
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By that logic, so is taxes
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@Telekinetic-Potato paying 13 extra cents on a candy bar is not equivalent to sending me out to die dude.
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Lol I forgot you're not from America where a solid 70% of your money on average is taxed
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Plus that's kind of the gravity of the decision behind who we elect. If you're not willing to die for the country, how can you really argue you have a right to decide who comes up with foreign policy or what a livable wage is or how any of this works?
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"I am American and get most of my money back on tax returns."
Don't you think it's a little hypocritical for you to say that a requirement to serve in the military, even if it's like an office job here at home or a cook or something before you can vote?
Most people don't have access to tax breaks that allow most of the money to be returned. Most people work 40 hours plus a week to barely get by, it's completely because of the people elected into office.
Most people who make enough to support themselves properly get more than half of their income taxed.
You don't see the value in everyone who votes needs to go through a process where it doesn't matter if you're the rich elite or a green card holder, you're all equal and at base level fellow Americans?
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How is being forced to work a shitty job or die because you weren't lucky enough to be able to rise above the 60% of Americans who live in financial poverty not slavery when the only reason people are so broke is because of these policies being made by leaches?
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@Telekinetic-Potato dude you don't need to work. If you really want you can convince the government you have a disability and then get Social Security for the rest of your life if that's really what you want to do. You can also buy things low and sell high. If you're working 40 hours a week then you're not thinking creatively enough.
Nobody is putting a gun to your head and making you work. That is not slavery. - +1 y
So you think the average person has the discipline, balls, education and critical thinking skills to do that? Why do you think people like us are such a minority? Out of roughly 330 million people, about 16 million are self employed and only 6.6 million out of those people have an incorporated business.
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This is the same kind of mentality as when the super rich just say "ehh, I'm better than the common man so I don't need to worry about them" it's logic based on emotion
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@Telekinetic-Potato I'm showing you how working is not slavery. You're not going to just be handed something for nothing, you're going to have to find a way to generate revenue.
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Most people are generating tens of thousands of dollars for these big corperations that the government allowed to monopolize their respective markets. They're doing the same jobs that 50 years ago would have given them a house, savings, a car, vacations and a family and now they can barely afford to feed themselves.
There's no way you could be that selfish. Not everyone is an entrepreneur. Everyone has a role to play in society. Leaders delegate and common folk facilitate. It's OK for us to be rich but these people are literally slaves lmao - +1 y
@Telekinetic-Potato you don't know what slavery is then.
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I define slavery as being forced to do work for what would be considered poverty. It's the same as kids in China making sneakers, obviously not as bad but those kids are trapped in almost exactly the same way a college graduate is stuck at a cvs manager role locked in at 54k/yr and if they go up to even 100k, it gets taxed so much it's barely different at all.
27.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. don't we already have to register for the draft?
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+1 yI honestly don't know, not a big fan of women in military unless we have such a large shortage
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+1 yThe draft is unconstitutional. Either gender, period.
But to elevate one gender over the other isn’t equality either11 Reply- +1 y
So either get rid of the draft/selective service entirely or make it so that people can only vote in the country if they’re a citizen and they’re registered to defend the country. The likelihood of a draft being enacted is slim but that way for example if a politician wanted to go to war everyone would be able to say “nah i don’t wanna go fight that” And would vote against that person. Instead women are voting for war that men will have to fight in and women get to choose whether they fight in or not
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+1 yI'm not from the us, but from what I hear I don't think the govt would want the current college students to fight for them
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+1 yFor it that's the way it should be. I fought for this country so I agree
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+1 yThis would be an end to democracy.
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+1 yWhy would you want an 80 yo to be drafted?
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+1 yThat's already a law in the US
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So women already have to sign up for the draft or else otherwise can not vote in elections?
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@ManInChains I forgot what it's called, but there's a special number they give each citizen that's for in case the draft is reinstated, and without this number you can't register to vote or apply for a federal job
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I only know about it, because it asked me for it when I was trying to apply for a government job, and I didn't even know I was issued such a number.
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Do women have these numbers?
2.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Lets go women. Equality awaits
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+1 yAgainst it.
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+1 yAgainst
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In the spirit of gender equity do you think that women should have to register for the draft too?
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