Why are they perfering bears over men?

[Anonymous]

Are these certain people Stupid or something? Not all but most bears are dangerous, they can destroy us, kill us, and eat us. So I don't know why this men vs bears trend is a thing.

[Snakeyes7]

I had the unfortunate displeasure of actually hearing these types of women out. Some actually think that bears listen to reason more than a man would and some think that bears would actually leave your dead body alone (there wouldn't be anything left of you when a hungry bear is done).

by the way this is what these women think of those who wonder why they chose the bear:

I wish I was making this up. Who the hell acts like this?

[Anonymous]

Because there’s a lot of stupid women out there just like there’s a lot of stupid men. This is like comparing apples to oranges. Now let’s compare apples to apples. Who would be more likely attack a female in a city? All the men who are currently alive today in the cities? Or if we took all the men out of the cities then replaced all the men w the same amount of bears? My guess is the bears. But maybe I’m wrong. Doubt it.

[Anonymous]

I mean, men can do all that stuff too. So can women. Humans are the single most dominant apex predator on the PLANET. I don't think its silly to prefer a normal, dumb-ass bear over one of us. You can just wave your arms around and go "ooo!" And the bear will run away lol.

Some people don't take time to understand wild animals, you just assume they're all blood-thirsty monsters. Smh

[Joshydavid25]

"You can just wave your arms around and go "ooo!" And the bear will run away lol."

People always say that.. But it's not really true.. Maybe for a Black bear, but you ain't waving your arms at a no damn Grizzly bear, and it's running off.. And Polar bears? Forget at that.. If you see them, it's not by accident..

[Opinion Owner]

@Joshydavid25 grizzly you just play dead if it actually approaches you, but most likely it will run away by itself. Grizzlies aren't as aggressive as black bears.

As for polar bears they literally don't live in any woods. This question doesn't even apply to them. And guess what species has killed more of the other one between polar bears and humans? Humans. We are the most dangerous predator on the planet hands down.

[Joshydavid25]

The question is not if you run into them in a forest but then being with you.. There's a saying

If it's black, fight back (black bears are smaller and less aggressive and you can probably scare it off)

If it's brown, lie down (grizzlies are too big for you to scare off and more aggressive so playing dead will help it decide you're not a threat and leave you alone assuming it's not after a meal)

If it's white, say goodnight (polar bears are bigger than you, faster than you, stronger than you, and hungry)..

Also this question in particular wasn't about the woods or forest, but Polar Bears can inhabit a forest, so this could apply to them as well.. Humans also save animal species all the time.. So while we're apex predators, we also take the most care of any species..

[Opinion Owner]

@Joshydavid25 this question is about the man vs bear questions, which are set in context of the woods and just running into them, not "being with them." Having the power to save other animal species doesn't make us any less of a threat. It just further proves how powerful we are compared to ither animals. Could bears save another species? I don't think so.

[Joshydavid25]

This question was asking why women were preferring bears.. The original question is "would you rather be stuck in a forest with a man or a bear?"..
And well I didn't say it made us any less of a threat, just that no other species has done it and probably never will.. And that last question is exactly my point.. LOL..

[Still-alive]

@Joshydavid25 lol typical you and your kind always revert back to the 'simp' card. no im doing this because you red pill shit heads are just wrong. thats it.

[Joshydavid25]

@Still-alive You are a simp my guy, just from what I've seen of your interactions, as many other guys on here are..

[Still-alive]

@Joshydavid25 lol typical. when you can't rebut things just say 'he's a simp.'

none of the women i have defended on here did i ever solicit or ask for sex for helping them out. i did it because im empathetic and like helping out people in general. i have helped out other dudes here too but i guess you're selective about only seeing me interact with women only.

[AmyHew1tt]

It's a bad and vague example to prove a point that no one is explaining properly. But as someone who lives in a forest with bears, I will say this. I'd be much more alarmed to come across a man while I'm walking in the woods, than a bear.

[Joshydavid25]

You'd be much more alarmed to come across a random man who is probably hiking than bear? 🧢..

[AmyHew1tt]

@Joshydavid25 Yes, because bears are more common on our property.

[Joshydavid25]

Oh okay makes sense..

[OlderAndWiser]

This is all part of a foolish argument among people who aren't sufficiently skilled to venture into the real world.

[D_Bone_Steak]

I think you're just seeing just how indoctrinated a lot of women are by feminism. Put a real bear and a man in front of the woman that says that shit.

I'd bet my left nut she isn't going to choose a night with the bear.

The answer they give is a result of an ideology... not reality.

Here is a different example of that same ideology

[JBlade]

Yes, they either think it's funny to choose a bear or they're legitimately stupid/irrational. There's a disconnect with reality because they actually don't understand true danger.

Basically saying they're more scared of the average man than a bear which can very easily maul, chase, and eat them (usually alive) if it so chooses. Average man has no intention on harming anyone, more likely to ignore them and go about their business if anything.

[fonduegirl]

The meme is on rapists. I don't know why average men are getting offended

[Apple1996]

Men attack for selfish reasons and they do it being fully aware of why they are attacking. Bears attack for survival so it makes more sense to be by a bear because they will only hurt you if necessary. Men will hurt you for fun

[Asker]

OK Becky, the misandrist

[Apple1996]

Bears attack less than men. It's more logical to pick bear. It doesn't make me a man hater to pick the more logical choice

[Apple1996]

I also genuinely love seeing wildlife so I'd go see the bear regardless of the man or not tbh

[Still-alive]

askers probably a dude lol

[Apple1996]

@Still-alive probably 😂

[Still-alive]

i only ever see incel bitter dudes say the word 'misandrist' lol

[Apple1996]

@Still-alive true I've never met a woman who uses that word

[Still-alive]

yeah because its red pill mgtow b. s. usually

[JacobJordan]

Just remember you said "more logical choice" Odds of being attacked by a bear 1 in 2.1m. Odds of being attacked by a man 1 in 240m. Welcome to reality. You are 114.28 times more likely to be attacked by a bear than a man. But yeah "more logical choice" to clarify further if you were locked in a room with a bear for an hour you have a near 100% chance of being dead. On the other hand if you were locked in a room with a random man you have a.06% chance of being attacked/dead. But uhhh "more logical choice"

[Apple1996]

@JacobJordan not sure where you got those stats but they are for real a joke.

"The 750,000 black bears of North America kill less than one person per year on the average, while men ages 18-24 are 167 times more likely to kill someone than a black bear. Most attacks by black bears are defensive reactions to a person who is too close, which is an easy situation to avoid"

[Apple1996]

@JacobJordan also being dead from a bear is the better option than being at the hands of a man. That's like the whole point. I wouldn't want to survive after being in the woods with a man who could be doing endless harm to me

[Still-alive]

i got that guy blocked so he can't see me but one thing you could point out to this idiot is that with a bear you know immediately what they wanna do, with a man you don't know you do not know their true intentions, at least not immediately. The man could be a saint or could be a monster. like imagine a bad scenario where it is just them alone in the woods and at first he does help her out and seems friendly and trustworthy, but once they get closer to a better area the guy pulls a 'ok ill help you get to safety but you gotta give me sex first!' and what if she says 'no' to that? hmmmm... yeah soo. it's idiocy on any mans part to not get why women choose the bear. they just clearly don't understand the predicament most women are in around guys they don't know. and stats are much worse for a woman around a guy they don't know then the other way around.

[Apple1996]

@Still-alive lol funny you have him blocked 😂😂 but yes exactly all these reasons

[Still-alive]

yeah cause he's another misogynistic douche like a lot of dudes on here lol. i should have most of them blocked by now. don't wanna deal with their garbage :P

[JacobJordan]

Google it takes less time to not be lazy and makes you look less stupid. odds of being attacked by a bear. 1 in 2.1m. Funny thing is the percentage of men that hurt women is tiny. .04% or smaller and yet women manage to pick almost exclusively those shitty guys. And given how stupid a woman has to be to say that a bear is safer it tracks why they pick the shitty guys. Most modern women are so dumb the only thing they succeed at is picking the wrong option every chance they get. 2 very easily Google'd stats and yet women still pick the wrong option and delusionally claim it as the "logical one"

[JacobJordan]

Once again I point out if you were locked in a room with a man you would most likely survive said encounter without ever being in danger. But if you were locked in a room with a bear you would be have a near 100% certainty of being dead. And yet "logical" as always it takes a woman to perfectly illustrate the lack of rationality and the reason why the statistic and generalization exists that men are more rational and women are more emotional.

[Still-alive]

"Most modern women are so dumb the only thing they succeed at is picking the wrong option every chance they get."

And there you have it @Apple1996 the thing driving him the most. misogyny. he hates women soooo much lol

[Joshydavid25]

"Bears attack less than men. It's more logical to pick bear. It doesn't make me a man hater to pick the more logical choice."

Well, that's because you will never run into a bear in your life unless you put yourself in a place to.. You'll run into a man every time you walk outside.. Which is why it's less likely that a man will attack you than a bear.. It's a silly argument.. As a man myself, I would choose a man even though I'm statistically much more likely to have a random violent encounter with a man than a woman would a man.. Also, don't let the bear be a Polar bear, or any hungry bear because you'll get eaten, and probably tortured for an hour by the bears since they like to play with their food..

[JacobJordan]

@Joshydavid25 don't let it be a polar bear, grizzly bear, hungry bear, a mama bear with cubs, male bear. She just doesn't realize that if you set identical circumstances regardless of which direction the outcome is the same. In a room? The bear is likely to eat you. In a bear den? The bear is likely to eat you. In the forest? The bear is likely to eat you. Switch the bear with man and one is likely to be completely fine. One would have to get astoundingly unlucky.

[Apple1996]

@Joshydavid25 in this scenario it's pretty specifically a black bear. Which is a friendly bear. I've been very close to bears before multiple times and never had any issues

[Apple1996]

@JacobJordan it wouldn't be unlucky because men rape all the time. I'm pretty sure it's something crazy like every 60 seconds a woman gets sexually assaulted by a man

[Joshydavid25]

@JacobJordan Yeah, the whole thing is just silly.. Just another power play from evil women trying to shame men into animal status it seems..

[Still-alive]

@Joshydavid25 “ Just another power play from evil women trying to shame men into animal status it seems..”

Lol excellent take…

[Joshydavid25]

You've ran into many more men, and hardly had any issues either.. In fact most women who aren't on the net and healthily interact with men don't have issues with men much at all.. But I figured that people are specifically thinking of a Black bear with they say "bear".. But even that little guy will tear you up if it's hungry or even for predatory reasons..

[Apple1996]

@Still-alive I just think it's crazy so many men are claiming to be scared of animals out in nature. Like have they never been on a hike before? 😂

[Joshydavid25]

@Still-alive Thank you came up with it myself.. 😎👉🏽..

[Joshydavid25]

"I just think it's crazy so many men are claiming to be scared of animals out in nature. Like have they never been on a hike before?"

Girl.. 😂😂😂.. Where did you get that correlation? We were specifically talking about the irrational fear of men vs creatures who would attack you off instinct..

[Still-alive]

@Apple1996 it’s just hilarious to me how dense and delusional these guys are, how they just refuse to get it. And ironically the more they demonstrate how they don’t understand or even attempt to empathize with women here the more right i feel in understanding why women would choose the bear over a guy they don’t know every time. Lols 😂

[Joshydavid25]

@Still-alive I'm around people all the time, and I see men and women interact just fine, and women even talking kind of crazy to me and other men.. So it kinda baffles me that this is even a conversation..

[Apple1996]

@Joshydavid25 women HAVE to be nice to men for our safety

[Still-alive]

@Joshydavid25 im sure you realize you’re in public areas with multiple people around where you witnessed these interactions right?

[Joshydavid25]

@Apple1996 No the hell they don't.. I've seen PLENTY of women who talk to men like they ain't nothing.. PLENTY..

[Joshydavid25]

@Still-alive My point is that women ain't walking around scared of men or that they'll rape them.. Hell, I even had a couple of women try, alone at night try and stay the night with me.. Most men are fairly harmless to women.. With the exception of a few very toxic cultures..

[Joshydavid25]

@Still-alive Plus realistically l, in the scenario that a woman and man are surviving alone in the woods they would both be more worried about finding a way out then any raping.. I don't know what idiots first thought is kinda be to rape in an unknown situation..

[Still-alive]

@Joshydavid25 mmhmmm and my point is most of the time where you witness men around women is out in public areas with multiple people around.

And thats great that you personally are a good dude when you are alone with a woman and ill even grant you that odds are nothing will happen most times women are alone with a guy however statistics still continue to show that it s much much higher for something bad to happen to a woman alone with a guy than the other way around or even a guy alone with another guy. If you deny this then you are quite delusional.

Men have strength advantage over women as a whole, most rape victims when it occurs tend to also be women and most of the time when they are alone together and there's no people around.

Thus women have a very good reason to feel unsafe around men they don’t know. Gotta emphasize the ‘they don’t know’ part here because thats why women keep choosing the bear. Its the ‘not knowing’ part that you keep missing. With a bear you KNOW exactly how thats going to end, with a man they don’t know they have no idea. Earlier i presented a terrible scenario that could happen where the guy demands sex from her for helping her out in the woods alone. What can a girl do in that situation? Say no? What if he wants sex despite here not wanting it? I think you get how thats gonna go huh?

So yeah odds are nothing bad will happen to a woman alone with a guy BUT odds are also still higher then a guy that something but will happen.

And them something else ill also bring up is how much r*** or sexual assault fucks you up mentally and spiritually, I completely understand why a woman would think that fate is worse then jist dying.

Hence why women will choose the bear.
1. Because knowing what will happen is better than not knowing what will happen
2. If a man did decide to do something bad then for a lot of women it is a fate worse then death for them.

[Joshydavid25]

@Still-alive Yeah, I got that part.. They're not alone.. But even alone most women are not afraid of men.. Simply because most men don't hurt women.. That's my point..

Yeah you can go on a tangent about what might happen should a very unlucky woman run into a supreme douchebag or a psychopath.. But, there's also a good chance she runs into a guy that wants to get back to his wife and kids.. Or a guy just likes to help people out and wants them to work together to get out of the forest.. The woman might even want to just give the guy sex for helping her or because she might be attracted to him.. Either way she has more of a chance of survival with the man than a bear.. A bear won't help her hunt or find ways out of the forest.. A bear won't help her to find shelter.. A bear won't be able to help her with the loneliness of not experiencing another human should she be stuck in the forest for a long time..

Also yes rape can be soul crushing, but I think both parties will be more concerned with how to get out of the damn forest than anything else..

[Still-alive]

@Joshydavid25 all of those are also possibilities yes, but you gotta think of this from a womans point of view, how does she know for sure that a guy isn't a monster aside from already knowing him personally for a long time? she doesn't. thats the big point here you must realize. the 'not knowing' what type of guy he is thing. so yes odds are nothing bad will happen to here BUT most women want those odds to be 0%, and the only real way to know that is over the course of a long time knowing him personally. and also a lot of girls can get that info through word of mouth, like a mutual friend or acquaintance that can tell her that he's not a bad dude and is in fact a good dude who will help her out. but in this scenario with no other people around she doesn't have that option.

"But even alone most women are not afraid of men.. Simply because most men don't hurt women"

The latter part of this is true, but the former is an assumption you are making. most women want to feel safe around men, which im sure you hear girls say they want in a guy often, and they usually don't get that feeling YET when they just barely met. unless the guys personality and confidence helps to make them feel that way, but even then the thought of 'is this guy really a good dude and won't hurt me?' probably still hasn't gone away completely through just one day of meeting up. it's knowing the dude over the course of time that those thoughts/feelings go down to 0%.

"I think both parties will be more concerned with how to get out of the damn forest than anything else.. "

Which i'll grant you IS a good logical assumption to make ill grant you but you just don't know that for sure because the two of you are complete strangers. the odds just are not 0% YET to make that determination for sure.

[zagor]

If you were around as many different bears as many different times as you are men, the attack rate would likely be much higher. When I was in Africa I was more leery of people than of lions, but only because I was in a Land Rover the only times I saw lions. I wouldn't prefer to run into one on a hike.

[Joshydavid25]

@Still-alive Is that not a bit of unhealthy thinking that a man is a possible monster simply because he's a man? I can understand being cautious around somebody you don't know, I would also be cautious around a woman in the forest I don't know.. But I guess it goes back to what I was saying.. It's irrational.. I totally understand and empathize with being cautious around men in particular.. We can be very dangerous.. But the automatic thinking that oh given the opportunity a man alone with a woman will take advantage of her is almost paranoia TBH.. I mean statistically it's not even close how another man will kill me over a woman.. I'll still choose the man simply because we could both survive..

"The latter part of this is true, but the former is an assumption you are making."

That's true most do want to feel safe around men, and most do.. Like I mentioned and this is my experience, but I've had a lot of women in charge of me.. I'm pretty sure I've felt more intimidated by them than them by me.. Not to mention some really talked down to me.. All that to say that women feel plenty safe around men almost to the point where they sort of look down on a lot of us. Which is why the man vs bear thing is B. S.. As somebody else said, it's a brain rot of a question and very general as well.. The odds of anything will never be zero.. The woman in the situation could also kill the man in his sleep and feed him to a bear, or do anything to take advantage of a nice man.. What separates it of course is the physical strength factor..

We could make the same statements of men that fear being wrongfully accused of taken advantage of by women..

[Still-alive]

@Joshydavid25 we are not talking about 'will or won't' here with absolute certainty, we're talking about odds. to use an analogy we all know if we go to a bad part of town odds are much higher then not that something bad might happen to us right? but as a person who drives through the ghetto parts of my city often, i have never ever had any crimes commited against me, however i still understand the odds are much higher for that there in those parts than in a more middle to upper class part of town. and i would also understand why if someone wee to go there they might decide to bring a knife or mace or just something to prepare yourself 'just in case.' 9/10 times nothing will happen but if something looks like it might then you got something to defend yourself with. and i doubt you would call that person delusional for bringing those things.

So here you go. its like this with women around guys they don't know. 9/10 times nothing will happen, but jic they would probably wanna have a first date or meetup in a place around a bunch of people first just to vibe check him.

In the forest alone with the guy they don't get to do that and must instead deal with the 'low but still high enough to cause concern in a womans minds' odds in this scenario. its not being 'delusional as you say', but a reality that happens more often then it should. Consider how most women seem to have some experience with bad men in their lives committing unspeakable things. if women were delusional the number of women experiencing something bad would be far less wouldn't you think?

[Still-alive]

@Joshydavid25 I understand where you and other dudes are coming from but we must step outside of ourselves here and see the big picture. Empathize. 1. men have a clear physical advantage over women as a general rule, 2. most r***s are perpetrated by men and 3. women are the usual victim of said r***s. does it mean it WILL happen? no it doesn't but the odds are high enough (not 'high', but higher then men) to where most women in this scenario might say to themselves 'im not sure about him just yet'. (emphasis on yet) it doesn't say anything about YOU in particular or any other guy who s actually a decent human being. you and those guys should just accept that this is a reality women have to deal with in their lives and be super confident in yourself that you aren't one of those guys and given enough time a woman will understand that completely about you and feel totally safe with you. don't get defensive about it, don't get upset, just listen to why they say it and don't chalk what they say down to 'oh i guess women are just evil and hate men' NO that is not it at all.

Anyways this is why i totally get why women choose the bear: 1. they know what the bears intentions are immediately whereas with a man they don't know well, they aren't sure yet and need time to figure it out 2. if the man does decide to take advantage there is virtually nothing a woman can do against his physical strength (unless she has some weapon with her perhaps of course) and it could result in a fate worse then death by the bear (r*** sexual assault, etc.).

[Still-alive]

@Joshydavid25 "The woman in the situation could also kill the man in his sleep and feed him to a bear, or do anything to take advantage of a nice man.. What separates it of course is the physical strength factor.. "

she could but just odds just aren't as high as a man doing something to her. that is reality here.

Look i get there are a lot of awful women out there too ok, but they just on average are not as violent or r***y as men are. thats just reality. we should just accept that and try to do our best to help educate dudes about consent more so this number can go down and women don't have to feel so unsafe like this anymore. lets strive for that world and not ignore this reality in our current one. cool? yeah.

[Joshydavid25]

@Still-alive Well with the ghetto, there's more times than not something will happen to you in the wrong place, wrong time.. Same can't be said for a random man lost in the forest same as a woman.. The odds aren't stacked against her, but she should proceed with caution encountering any stranger in a forest.. Which is totally understandable and I get that.. But like I mentioned it's paranoia to have so much fear that you'd rather take your chances with a wild animal than another human..

"Consider how most women seem to have some experience with bad men in their lives committing unspeakable things."
I don't know how true that is.. I think it's a bit hyperbolic to say honestly.. Especially in the West.. And especially if those girls have a father that is protective.. Everybody has had something done to them but not so good people in that case..

[Still-alive]

@Joshydavid25 “But like I mentioned it's paranoia to have so much fear that you'd rather take your chances with a wild animal than another human..”

Disagree

Welp i made my opinion known. Ill leave it at that.

[Still-alive]

@Joshydavid25 https://youtu.be/LTragTCIRDE?si=ABg-cZS_AG_27HhC

I’ll direct you to this video of this woman who although chooses the man in the scenario is at least sympathetic to why women choose the bear and lays out the arguments and logic more succinctly than me

[Joshydavid25]

@Still-alive I see the bigger picture of what they're saying, I just don't agree with it.. Listen, like I mentioned I can totally empathize with women and what a lot of men are capable of.. And I know it doesn't say anything about me, but the whole thing is pretty sexist.. Imagine if the roles reversed, or if they said that about any "marginalized" group all hell would break loose.. Lmao..
"it could result in a fate worse then death by the bear (r*** sexual assault, etc.)."

I remember a story about a woman who was raped by a man, and said it was the best sex she had in a while.. Granted that's a huge outlier, but it depends on the individual.. I would think most people who survived the ordeal are still glad to live another day..

[Still-alive]

@Joshydavid25 “I would think most people who survived the ordeal are still glad to live another day..“

And thus why you’ll never truly understand

[Joshydavid25]

@Still-alive "she could but just odds just aren't as high as a man doing something to her. that is reality here."

The odds aren't that much higher, like I mentioned in a real situation which none of the women who answered have faced, both parties would be frantic, and panicking.. I would imagine after hours of being stuck in a forest and not knowing a way out, the woman would be happy to see the man, because it's finally another face, women seek help from random men all the time.. I would imagine the woman would put a lot of trust in the man if he showed that he was trying to get out as well, which he would.. More times than not the guy won't look threatened enough for the woman to have a lot of caution.. They'll both be wondering what the hell type of situation they were in.. This actually, originated on Twitter as yet another way for women to vilify men based on what 1% of men do.. As much sh! t as women do and get away with they definitely don't have the higher moral grounds. The world is unsafe for everybody, the only people who we need to watch out for are the ones who want to hurt people.. I wish I could go around and be safe everywhere, but that's not the reality we live in.. And trying to make it seem as if women can try to control men's behavior even more won't help anything.. Everybody knows rape is bad including the guys who do it.. No education needed.. They do it because they don't care..

[Still-alive]

@Joshydavid25 you're so hopeless lol...

im done bruh

[Joshydavid25]

@Still-alive My guy, I had two attempted robberies and was jumped multiple times and had a bit of bullying from guys.. So I don't know why you act like as a man, I have nothing to fear from other guys.. I probably faced more opposition from men than many women have in their lives.. Like I said I understand the caution, I don't take anything personally, I still think it's silly..

[Still-alive]

@Joshydavid25 "So I don't know why you act like as a man, I have nothing to fear from other guys"

never ever did i once say or imply you got nothing to fear from other guys lol. straw man much?

It's so interesting how you say in one sentence you empathize wiht women... then later say 'oh well some women enjoy it based off one anecdotal experience i heard a woman say'

lol puhlease. spare me. you're hopeless and you're only solidifying even more why women choose the bear over a man. you perpetuate the culture around it all.

[Joshydavid25]

@Still-alive
"she could but just odds just aren't as high as a man doing something to her. that is reality here."

You making a vague, general State such as "you'll never understand" is what lead me to believe that..

"It's so interesting how you say in one sentence you empathize wiht women... then later say 'oh well some women enjoy it based off one anecdotal experience i heard a woman say'"

Now, you're straw manning me, because I never said that some women enjoy it.. I even pointed out that it was an extreme outlier.. My point in mentioning that was that it depended on the individual whether rape was worse than death.. Even after rape I'm sure most people are glad to still be alive I imagine..

Not really.. Most women I assume wouldn't choose a bear.. Seeing as a lot of women have questionable chooses in guys and a lot of fantasies about being dominated.. Most women aren't scared of men.. The question is blatantly sexist in nature, and was made to simply cause more division and vilification..

[Still-alive]

@Joshydavid25 "My point in mentioning that was that it depended on the individual whether rape was worse than death.. Even after rape I'm sure most people are glad to still be alive I imagine.."

And this is why i'll keep restating why you don't understand and never will when you make statements like this. talk and/or listen to millions and millions of rape victims THEN come back and try to say this with a straight face.

[Still-alive]

@Joshydavid25 if you don't have any kids yet and one day have a daughter... i would like to see if you are still saying this stuff. i notice how a lot of the men who seem to understand why women choose the bear seem to have a daughter or some woman in their lives they care about deeply and understand the threat any random man could possibly pose.

[Joshydavid25]

@Still-alive "And this is why i'll keep restating why you don't understand and never will when you make statements like this. talk and/or listen to millions and millions of rape victims THEN come back and try to say this with a straight face."

C'mon man, you haven't even listened and talked to millions rape victims.. Lmao.. Rape is terrible and I hate when I see it in any medium.. It's abhorrent.. Also many men have experienced rape by men and women.. So it's not just a woman exclusive experience.. Also most women aren't rape victims, and never had a man lay a hand on them in their lives..

[JacobJordan]

@Joshydavid25 not to mention the percentage of men that commit rape is.4% in addition most rapists have numerous victims. You will be hard pressed to get anything beyond a lack of accountability from still alive. He is a liberal and a man hater. Called him out over a month ago using links and he immediately responded by insulting me and then blocking me because he had no come back.

[Joshydavid25]

@Still-alive "i notice how a lot of the men who seem to understand why women choose the bear seem to have a daughter or some woman in their lives they care about deeply and understand the threat any random man could possibly pose."

Even men with daughters are questioning the choice.. Imagine a question is asked "Would you rather your little child be found by a random woman or a man?" And I say "A man because women are more likely to commit infanticide and I want my babies back safe and alive, which the man is more likely to do".. That would be considered sexist.. Which this question is.. It's meant to divide men and women even more.. Go outside and look at some interactions between regular men and women..

[Joshydavid25]

@JacobJordan Exactly... He even makes my point for me many times, and yet still says "Oh, but think about it from a woman's POV".. Most women wouldn't choose the bear.. LOL.. I know all about Still Alive.. I've tangled with him before.. He just wants to sit around and flirt and pander..

[JacobJordan]

@Joshydavid25 probably thinks he'll get a girlfriend by bashing men or some silly thing like that.

[Still-alive]

@Joshydavid25 "C'mon man, you haven't even listened and talked to millions rape victims"

not millions but i have listened to lots yes. and the ovewhelming majority say something like "I'd rather be murdered than have to relive the rape in my mind over and over again' so you saying 'i think they're happier being alive then not' just completely reveals how you either haven't listened or you just don't give a shit. either way its just highly ignorant.

" Also many men have experienced rape by men and women.. So it's not just a woman exclusive experience.. "

ok i guess its time to bring out the sources. I never said men don't get raped, more putting words in my mouth, but the vast VAST majority of rape victims are women that is a FACT.

"One in five women and one in 71 men will be raped at some point in their lives" www.nsvrc.org/.../...s-about-sexual-violence_0.pdf

"Also most women aren't rape victims, and never had a man lay a hand on them in their lives."

More ignorance:
"On average, there are 463,634 victims (age 12 or older) of rape and sexual assault each year in the United States."
www.rainn.org/statistics/victims-sexual-violence
"One in five women in the United States experienced completed or attempted rape during their lifetime. "

"Nationwide, 81% of women and 43% of men reported experiencing some form of sexual harassment and/or assault in their lifetime"

"One in three female victims of completed or attempted rape experienced it for the first time between the ages of 11 and 17. "
www.nsvrc.org/statisticsexperience-violence

[Still-alive]

@Joshydavid25

These are NOT insignificant numbers. and the more you ramble on about how women are 'delusional' and shit the more you ignorant you sound and the more you just solidify WHY women overwhelmingly choose the bear over the man in the woods.

Research better and stop falling for the red pill nonsense you keep spouting. you just come across as a rape apologist... which is also why women choose the bear because if they survive a bear attack and report it they'll be believed more than when they report a rape...

[Joshydavid25]

@Still-alive
The "1 in 5" statistic has been hotly debated and even debunked as they had a broad view of sexual assault and rape.. So you like posting old not so true statistics..

https://time.com/3393442/cdc-rape-numbers/

"the NCVS estimate for that year was 238,000 rapes and sexual assaults."

"as criminologists Richard Felson and Patrick Cundiff report in a fascinating recent analysis, a 15-year-old male is considerably more likely to be sexually assaulted than a woman over 40. The CDC reports that 12.3 percent of female victims were 10 or younger at the time of their first completed rape victimization; for male victims, that number is 27.8 percent."

www.aei.org/.../

Can't believe that people still use the "1 in 5" statistic.. And no it doesn't solidify why women would choose the bear.. I haven't spouted any "Red pill" nonsense.. I don't even listen to red pill content like that, nor do I care for it anymore.. I only listen to logic, and not fear mongering.. Also you project a lot.. I didn't call women delusional or at least most women..

"which is also why women choose the bear because if they survive a bear attack and report it they'll be believed more than when they report a rape..."

It seems like you're swallowing nonsense or maybe you just want to get some booty that badly, but women are believed automatically much of the time.. Look at the many times guys have been falsey accused and had their lives taken from them all because a woman lied..

[Still-alive]

@Joshydavid25 " I didn't call women delusional or at least most women.. "

yes you did. you said its paranoia for women to be afraid of men when statistics continue to back them that they have every reason to feel that way.

It's pretty interesting that you only focused on the 1 in 5 stat and ignored everything else i posted there... almost like you know you're bs'ing but you're too prideful to admit you're wrong lol.

"I haven't spouted any "Red pill" nonsense.. I don't even listen to red pill content like that, nor do I care for it anymore."

You can claim you don't watch that stuff all you like but I myself use to listen to them and i can tell you the stuff you been saying thus far lines up with it all perfectly. So you may not get it directly but you are getting it from somewhere, its not hard to run into other dudes on the internet in particular with similar views to yours this site included.

"It seems like you're swallowing nonsense or maybe you just want to get some booty that badly, "

I do get a lot more booty nowadays then when i was listening to red pill shit ill admit that. but im not doing this FOR the booty bruh. I do it because im an empathetic human being and want to help bring MORE empathy into the world. thats MY angle here. and believing women when they say they are raped or SA helps. When a man gets brutalized or assaulted or raped i will automatically believe him too. that is my go to response anytime i hear someone making a claim or accusation like this because most of the time it is very verrry difficult for victims (man OR woman) to admit the brutality and reality of what happened to them.

"women are believed automatically much of the time."
false: "One in four women will experience sexual assault in their lifetime. Although less than 5% of sexual assaults are reported to law enforcement, one in five cases reported to police are deemed baseless (by police) and therefore coded as “unfounded.” "
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9136376/

[Still-alive]

@Joshydavid25 "Look at the many times guys have been falsey accused and had their lives taken from them all because a woman lied"

You're gonna need to provide a source on that. BUT i can tell you that if true then yes that is shitty of those women. I dunno why you keep thinking i think all women are good or whatever. there are awful women out there too. i even was in a relationship with one lol. but you don't see me taking that one bad experience and claiming 'women in general are shitty.'

Even this man or bear thing isn't saying ALL men do this, just that the problem is so big that it is a problem and does reveal why women desire safety above all else from men most of the time. and again back to the original point the only real way to learn a man is fine is over the course of time.

[Joshydavid25]

@Still-alive "yes you did. you said its paranoia for women to be afraid of men when statistics continue to back them that they have every reason to feel that way."

I did you're right.. That's why I said "or most women" because most women don't have a paranoid fear of men..

"It's pretty interesting that you only focused on the 1 in 5 stat and ignored everything else i posted there... almost like you know you're bs'ing but you're too prideful to admit you're wrong lol."

No, it's because everything else was about assault which in those studies were broadly defined.. But also because the subject was on rape and how many women experience it..

"You can claim you don't watch that stuff all you like but I myself use to listen to them and i can tell you the stuff you been saying thus far lines up with it all perfectly."

No, you're conflating me speaking common sense with red pill.. Just because I come at a defense for men doesn't make it red pill.. Plenty of people who do the same thing and don't like red pill content.. Not to mention you're continuously straw manning my points..

"I do it because im an empathetic human being and want to help bring MORE empathy into the world. thats MY angle here. and believing women when they say they are raped or SA helps."

That's not empathy, that's pandering.. I don't believe anybody who makes claims without evidence as that leads down a dangerous path where many people are falsely imprisoned or killed.. You take their claims seriously but you don't have to automatically believe them.. That's how I know you're just blowing smoke outta your ass..

[Still-alive]

@Joshydavid25 “You take their claims seriously but you don't have to automatically believe them..”

I believe them because again to come forward with something like this takes courage especially in a world that continues to demonize women (and men yes) who do actually experience this. I want them to feel safe and secure in coming forward and if I automatically say ‘you’re lying’ or delusional’ it could just shut down anymore investigations into their claims to stop a potential rapist from committing more rapes. But in saying that i also don’t automatically go against the accused person ‘guns loaded’ i just start observing more. I also may ask other people what they know about him and other women if they had experience with him. I try to get a big picture before i go all in.

Anyways im pretty much said all i gotta say here. Although you accuse me of ‘pandering’ i gotta rebut that with a who do you think im pandering to? You notice Apple here hasn’t replied for a loooong time? She probably muted the convo by now lol. This is just for you bruh. No one else.

Anyways im out. Ill be blocking you too. I don’t want anymore misogynists in my feed. Byeeeee

[Joshydavid25]

@JacobJordan Probably does.. Both he and Apple don't fall far from the same tree.. Both misandrist and don't wanna admit it.. But he called me a misogynist and blocked me as well.. Which is petty to say the least..

[JacobJordan]

@Joshydavid25 of course he did he ran out of goalposts he could move and as the liberal fascists go when you can no longer defend your position insult and block

[fonduegirl]

If you tell a person you were attacked by a bear, they'd believe you.

If you tell the same person the same thing about men, they'd tell you you dress for attention.

That's the fking point

[normalice]

I think the idea is a bear will only attack if it is hungry or it feels its territory is being taken. Whereas a man may attack for any or no reason.

[Xayatot]

because according to most modern women (especially when emotionally triggered): extreme exception = general rule. So if they see or hear a man out of thousands that rapes a woman, for them it means men in general rape women.

Women as a gender go easier astray than men. And that is no exception. THAT is a general rule.

[Finchie40]

I actually never heard about this trend , but it already sounds silly to me , as to why they are comparing bears to men? Is it because females’ are compared to cats? I am going to Google this shit lol

[Finchie40]

Ok being stuck in the woods with either a strange man or a bear? She is probably better off with the strange man to be honest , she would have a way better chance at surviving by having a guy that will more than likely protect her and keep her safe , if he wants sex with her , she is best just to give him sex , if she is afraid of being raped by him , I know that would be a shitty situation , but sex is better than being eaten alive by a bear

[JacobJordan]

It is dumb women who are trying to reduce men to animals because those women pick shitty rapists and abusers

[Snakeyes7]

Not just being reduced to wild animals, they are actually saying that the wild animal is preferable.

[NamerOfStars]

It's just ragebait; Feminist bigots trolling men.

[John_Cobretti]

It's just a propaganda, to make it look like all men would rape a woman if they get a chance and thus bears are better, fortunately their plan failed since all women are not that dumb and woke

[Changiis07]

lol it's dumb but I think it's just a trend like anything else it'll fade eventually

[laly520]

r u aware that if u keep asking about it the trend won't end anytime soon?

[TheUniqueOne96]

Probably brainwashed by feminazi misandrist garbage.

[Astarlessnightsky]

A man can do all these things as well and much more.

[Guanfei]

You're trying to make sense of something that makes no sense.

It's just the new trendy excuse to hate on men, it's not logical.

[jahaims]

It's a thought exercise for morons who think they are being deep and virtuous

[Pohjolan]

City people thinking about Winnie the Pooh or some tame circus bears.

[KrakenAttackin]

Let these women ask Bears to open jars for them and pay for their Prada bags.

[Anonymous]

The thought of being raped has made women irrational. Bears are unpredictable whereas men are predictable enough for us to know most aren't rapists.

[JacobJordan]

.04% of men are rapists to be exact.

[Snakeyes7]

@jacobjordan That is the worst case scenario since most rapes are done by repeat offenders.

[gorydetails]

Yes, they are stupid.

[Anonymous]

they have suicidal thoughts

[Anonymous]

They are flat lying for status and validation.