What crime was Donald Trump convicted of?

[AviatorTom]

Let's see how much people have been following the news, and how much they been swayed by the media.

What crime was former President Donald Trump convicted of?

Please vote in the poll below.

Trying to change the 2020 election results

Participating in the January 6th attack on the Capitol

Having classified documents at his hone in Florida

Falsifying business records

Having unprotected sex with a porn star

Trying to influence the 2016 election

Taking bribes from Ukrainian energy officials

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Once again, GaG changed the selected Trending & News category to Sexuality, which is obviously incorrect. Can someone please correct this. @GirlsAskGuys.

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Good job G@Gers. 85% of poll respondents know the actual crime he was convicted of. Kinda funny that someone picked the Ukraine choice... that's something the Biden family have been charged with (but not in court... yet).

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The 85% has dropped to 80% as more responders voice their opinions about what he should be charged with rather than the actual charge. Still an excellent showing that most G@Gers know the true facts.

[RingOfFire]

What President Trump was convicted of is winning the 2016 election.

The Democrats rigged that election with a smear campaign of false accusations about "Russian collusion" and other corrupt tactics to undermine the election results and were STUNNED when President Trump won anyway. They had SEIZURES that brought on the epidemic of Trump Derangement Syndrome among the perpetually ignorant Democrat masses.

They could not believe that President Trump beat the massive corrupt Clinton/Obama America destruction machine and were salivating at the idea that Hillary Clinton would be the next president so she could finish the destruction of America that Obama had made so much progress implementing. The Democrats and their media were already coronating Hillary as the next Marxist ruler of Ameria and the one who would finally take it down and were so disillusioned and stunned that the people said otherwise that they lost their sanity and have not gotten it back to this day.

THIS is what started the Democrat's 8 year Soviet style political persecution to stop President Trump (really to stop the American people) from derailing their movement to march the United States into hell. He was AND STILL IS, the only thing that stands in their way.

They finally realized that the only way they can stop President Trump is to prevent the people from having an option to vote for him and that's when they decided that they needed to have him confined to a prison so the people could not elect him. And that's when they came up with all the fake crimes just in time for election season to try to shut him down. They didn't have covid this time so they needed another way to rig the election, and this was it.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/eUMuYCpXJ0Ahttps://www.youtube.com/embed/G87UXIH8Lzohttps://www.youtube.com/embed/MdS-ExZHy7A

[Amy10223]

It's funny how all of what you wrote is nonsense, and you get the best answer. It shows how stupid this best answer thing is.

[RingOfFire]

Envy will get you nowhere.

[Amy10223]

Envy of what? That he paid a porn star to be quiet about their affair so that it would allow him to be voted in? That he tried to bribe the Georgia governor to find him 11,000 votes when he lost in 2020? The he had people raid the Capitol building so that he could get back the presidency and win a "stolen" election? That he's a convicted felon? A whiny crybaby who feel asleep in court many times? Oh boy... You're funny.

[RingOfFire]

He is not a convicted felon. New York law does not considered someone convicted until the judge enters the verdict at sentencing. But I know that those of you who are working for the enemies of the United States cannot wait for that day to come and the country to be officially under lawfare attack.

[Amy10223]

Oh yes he is, a convicted felon. You can't deny the truth, unless you live on another planet and don't know what happened:

www.bu.edu/.../

[Snakeyes7]

Falsification of business records but

1. That was a misdemeanor that was upgraded to a felony because orange man bad

2. It was beyond the statute of limitations so the only reason this trial is taking place in that regard is orange man bad.

3. Those who actually paid attention to the trial will notice that Michael Cohen was the one who falsified the document so he could make Trump pay way more than he needed to so he could pay Stormy Daniels the hush money. So Cohen essentially stole the hush money from Trump. Trump was the one punished anyway because orange man bad.

Total kangaroo court right there. I assure you that there was nothing that was going to convince the jury because they were never on Trump's side in the first place. His crime is orange man bad.

[goaded]

1. ... because it included an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof
2. the statute of limitation was extended in March 2020 because of the pandemic, nothing to do with Trump; the argument was made and rejected.
3. Cohen being in cahoots with Trump doesn't make Trump innocent. Trump, remember, signed the checks, knowing they were fake.

"Trump was the one punished" Come back to me when he gets longer than Cohen spent in prison.

[Snakeyes7]

@goaded
1. Of which they had no reason to suspect that he intended to commit another crime. None other than orange man bad.

2. How convenient for them.

3. Why would Cohen make a fake invoice like that then? Trump could have come to him giving him the money or the invoice could have mentioned an extra charge but it was all combined into the cost of having him as a lawyer. The only reason I can think of is to fool Trump into paying more than what was required, effectively stealing from him.

>"Trump was the one punished" Come back to me when he gets longer than Cohen spent in prison.

Trump going to prison at all is, by definition, punishment. What are you even talking about?

[goaded]

1. Other than his co-conspirator being convicted and spending years in prison for it.
2. Tough.
3. ? I guess Trump wanted a tax write-off, or something. It doesn't really matter, he wrote the checks to pay off Cohen for making the payoff to Daniels and said they were something they weren't.

"Trump going to prison at all is, by definition, punishment. What are you even talking about? "
Has he gone to prison yet? Will he? His probation interview is today; you get lower sentence recommendations if you show remorse. Do you think Trump will show remorse?

[Snakeyes7]

@goaded
1. I'm sure his "co-conspirator" totally didn't have a kangaroo court just like what pretty much anyone who has been deemed a leftist black category goes through all the time.

3. You'd have to prove that Trump knew what he was paying for. As far as I am aware, we haven't. We just saw the situation and just said he knew exactly what he was doing but you can't say that with certainty based on how the invoice was written.

When you are convicted of a crime, you are condemned to prison. Is that not how it works?

What does Trump have to show remorse for? The only thing the left wants him to be remorseful of is trying to topple the system because it does everything in its power to defy everything America stands for. That's why they establishment is also going after his lawyers because they can't stand the fact that Trump has a right to an attorney.

[goaded]

1. It was in 2018. Half way through Trump's only term.
3. He knew it wasn't for legal services because Cohen didn't do much work for him that year. This all got discussed in the trial.

Not every conviction results in a prison sentence. Showing understanding of the crimes you've committed and remorse for committing them helps to reduce your sentence. Somehow I can't see Trump doing that.

At least you admit that Trump was trying to topple the system of democracy in the US.

His lawyers who've been punished were punished for doing things lawyers aren't allowed to do, like bring frivolous lawsuits.

[Snakeyes7]

@goaded
1. Ok and? We have had kangaroo courts even back then. We aren't talking about those who associate with Trump, we are talking about Trump himself at the moment he paid the invoice.
3. I think if you are as rich as Trump is, you just pay whatever comes on your desk without thinking because you can afford to do that. I don't really think he thought much of it.

No I didn't say he was toppling the system of democracy. You can't topple what wasn't there to begin with, we are a republic and we were never a democracy. What the American people hopes Trump will topple is the uniparty in congress that uses the bill of rights as toilet paper when it makes them money.

And what do you know? Kangaroo courts go against the 6th amendment, gun control laws which was what Hunter Biden got convicted with goes against the 2nd, hate speech laws (especially burning out on pride flag painted streets) go against the 1st, the Patriot Act is a violation of the 4th, it could be argued that property tax is a violation of the 3rd. I can go on. The blatant tyranny needs to stop. That's why I assure you Trump's conviction was predetermined.

[goaded]

So? So it was Trump's DoJ that prosecuted Cohen in what you'd like to call a "kangaroo court". The jury took into account all the facts of the case, you know a tiny fraction of them, and they found Trump GUILTY in all 34 counts.

Anything you think is relevant to the case was either brought up by the defence at trial or isn't relevant. Throwing out other hypothetical defences won't wash, the decision has been made.

You're trotting out the sad argument that the US isn't a democracy? It's bullshit. Every democratic country on Earth has a representative democracy, and the US is one of them.

Trump's conviction was predetermined from when he committed the crimes. Kangaroo courts don't need evidence, defence lawyers, or even real crimes, Trump had all three, and a lot more leeway than any other defendant would have.

How many of Trump's inner circle is he no longer allowed to associate with, now he's a convicted felon? Steve Bannon, Allen Weisselberg, Rick Gates, Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulos...

Roger Stone and Michael Flynn got pardons despite being unapologetically guilty, so I guess they're still allowed to pal around with Trump.

[Snakeyes7]

@goaded Yeah sorry, I don't believe that they legitimately thought Trump was guilty. They have a trail in NY which is a place so hostile to him that it is a miracle that Trump tower is still standing. Did you really expect the jury to actually be a "trial of his peers," no they were thinking "I will make history and finally put Trump in prison."

Plus the fact that the judge has ties with the Biden administration made me even less convinced.

I am calling it a kangaroo court because the conviction was going to happen anyway, everything that happened in that trial was just to bring about the illusion that Trump had a chance (if Biden wins, you know those defense lawyers are going to get criminally charged just like the previous ones for daring to defend the orange bogeyman as he was constitutionally entitled to have) even with Cohen admitting that he stole the money from Trump to pay off Daniels himself, he was the one falsifying business records. It was a miscarriage of justice regardless of whether the trial goes through the proper procedures or not.

Aren't the rest of these people you mentioned criminally charged too? The reason was to be made an example of I assume.

[goaded]

What you believe doesn't matter. What matters is that a jury of his peers, including one who got his "news" from Truth Social, unanimously found him guilty on all counts. He's guilty.

A conviction is practically certain in all four criminal cases, as long as they come to trial, which is why Trump's strategy (aided by Cannon and SCOTUS) has been to delay them all as long as possible, spending millions of donated dollars to do so.

"Cohen admitting that he stole the money from Trump to pay off Daniels himself" is bullshit. He didn't.

"Aren't the rest of these people you mentioned criminally charged too?"
Most of them were convicted while Trump was president.

[Wallythewalrus2]

@goaded Can you tell me what crime was concealing?

[goaded]

@Wallythewalrus2 You're pretending you still don't know? You didn't see Cohen going to prison for years on Trump's behalf?

[Wallythewalrus2]

@goaded I want you to tell me, what crime Trump covered up. I don't know.

[goaded]

@Wallythewalrus2 You're lying, because otherwise you'd have looked it up.

[Wallythewalrus2]

@goaded You can't tell me, can you? lol

[goaded]

@Wallythewalrus2 Wow, you're pathetic. Look up the crime Cohen was convicted, sentenced and spent time in prison for on Trump's behalf. That was it.

[Wallythewalrus2]

@goaded I'll help you out, dumb shit, the jury didn't have to decide on a crime. The judge gave them three crimes and said they didn't have to be unanimous on any one crime! They just had to be unanimous that he intended to cover a crime. Any crime. That is a HUGE constitutional issue. People forget, Trump wasn't just convicted of falsifying records, he was convicted of falsifying records to cover up another crime. On which apparently the judge feels the jury doesn't need to unanimous on. You're pathetic! lol

[goaded]

@Wallythewalrus2 Yes, that's correct and the law. Why do you think they didn't think he was probably guilty of all three? Like with obstruction cases, the crime is the cover-up; you can be convicted of obstruction even if you didn't commit an underlying crime.

[Wallythewalrus2]

@goaded Obstruction is an actual crime that a jury needs to be unanimous on. "Why do you think they didn't think he was guilty of all three"? Dip shit, that is the constitutional problem! The jury instructions from the judge said they didn't have to be unanimous! lol They just had to be unanimous that a crime (any crime) was covered up. The 6th Amendment is pretty clear that isn't how it works when you're accused of a crime. Any verdict or decision made by a jury in a serious crime HAS to be unanimous, especially when the supposed decision will raise simple misdemeanor crimes to a felony.

[goaded]

@Wallythewalrus2 Why do I think a judge, not to mention the prosecution and defence lawyers, knows more about the law than you do?

[Wallythewalrus2]

@goaded lol The defense argued it's unconstitutional to not be unanimous on the crime he supposedly covered up! The judge denied it. Why? Because he wanted a felony conviction, so people like you can have the "convicted felon" sound bite you get a hard on for. Of course that's my opinion. By the way, you didn't even make an argument.

[goaded]

@Wallythewalrus2 I don't have to, it's already been made in court. The defence agreed to the instructions.

[Wallythewalrus2]

@goaded 🤦 The defense did not agree to the instructions! Jesus Christ lol The judge decided what they are.

[goaded]

@Wallythewalrus2 With input from both sides.

[Wallythewalrus2]

@goaded That's not agreeing! I just gave you an example of what the defense disagreed on and the judge denied them. You're clueless!

[goaded]

@Wallythewalrus2 That's actually a fair point, you didn't need the insult. The question still remains, who knows more about the law, you, or a judge? Don't tell me the prosecution didn't anticipate potential appeal avenues, either.

[Wallythewalrus2]

@goaded I know a little about the law and constitution, besides, questioning me on knowledge of it, isn't an argument.

[Wallythewalrus2]

@goaded Also, I eluded to it earlier, in my opinion, the judge and prosecution didn't care about causes for appeal. The got what the wanted, the "convicted felon" headline before the election and debates.

[goaded]

@Wallythewalrus2 Well, that's your opinion, but I think they do want a watertight case. The wildcard is obviously Trump's SCOTUS, unencumbered by any binding ethical rules, thanks to the Republicans in Congress.

[Snakeyes7]

@goaded Their binding ethical rules is in the constitution. It is in the job description to pass or deny any ruling congress passes based on what the constitution says and their interpretation of it.

You say they don't have any "binding ethical rules" because you disagree with how the majority of the justices interpret the constitution.

[goaded]

No, I say they don't have any "binding ethical rules" because one of them takes money and gifts from rich people, illegally concealed them, and refuses to recuse himself from cases involving his wife, who was involved in Jan 6, another cares so little about the "appearance of bias" that he flys flags supporting the insurrection and candidly talks about taking sides, the Chief Justice does nothing about either, and Republicans in Congress just blocked a law requiring one (Supreme Court Ethics, Recusal, and Transparency (SCERT) Act.)

Clarence Thomas has received $4million so that he will stay in the court and keep ruling the way his donors like.

No, I don't like how they rule, and I think Republicans pushing through nominees with a bare majority or refusing to vote for valid nominees from Democratic presidents has damaged the standing of the court. Before McConnell, most justices were confirmed by at least two thirds of the Senate, RBG got 97%, the exception, iirc, being Thomas, but even then 60 senators voted to allow a vote.

[Slingblade1126]

@goaded I know a lot about law and the constitution. Wally is correct! The judge took the prosecution's interruption of the sixth Amendment over the defenses. In a nut shell, the defense said you can NOT charge a defendant with misdemeanors, then say they can be elevated to felonies, because he committed them to cover up a crime or crimes but then, not name a specific crime (s) and have a jury not be unanimous on any one crime! Again, The jury could have disagreed on all three, agreed on two or one of the three or agreed on all three! But according to my interruption of the constitution, they had to be unanimous on a SPECIFIC crime (s). I might add, most respectable judges would agree with my interruption. After all, last I heard, this is unprecedented! The prosecution's argument was, from my understanding, similar to yours. You have an example of "obstruction". Yes, the prosecution doesn't have to prove the crime the defendant obstructed. The defendant didn't even have to be convicted of the crime they obstructed, in order to be found guilty of obstruction. Right? that's what you said? However, the underlying crime, has absolutely no influence on the sentencing if found guilty! Obstruction is the crime! Same as "Burglary". If you enter a home unwelcomed, that's trespassing, a misdemeanor but, as a prosecutor, I can charge you with felony Burglary, if I can prove to a jury that your intention was to commit other crimes (theft, criminal damage, rape). They don't have to even vote on a crime, I just have to prove that your intention was to commit another crime. Why doesn't the jury have to agree on a crime? Because the defendant isn't being charged with that crime! They're being charged with Burglary. In Trump's case, he is literally being charged with misdemeanor, falsifying business records and covering up a crime.

[Slingblade1126]

SPELL CHECK! "Interpretation"!

[goaded]

@Slingblade1126 Well, "according to my [interpretation] of the constitution" doesn't hold as much water as a judge's.

Also, isn't the second half of your post agreeing with me?

The crime Trump is convicted of is felony falsification of business records to conceal a crime, how is that different from felony trespassing with intent to commit other crimes? You literally say "Why doesn't the jury have to agree on a crime? Because the defendant isn't being charged with that crime!"

[Slingblade1126]

@goaded You completely missed what I wrote! Trump was charged with 34 counts of falsifying business records. Correct? That is a misdemeanor. What made the conviction a felony, was was the charge of concealing a crime but no one, including you, can name any specific crime. The fact the jury had to vote on two separate issues to get a felony conviction should help you understand what I'm saying! I didn't think I could be any clearer on trespassing vs Burglary. Trespassing isn't a felony, Burglary is!

[goaded]

@Slingblade1126 No, he was charged with felony falsifying business records, because the falsification was to cover up a crime. Just like trespass changes to felony burglary (so you tell me) if the trespasser was intending to commit another crime on the premises.

By the way, has it occurred to you that you're not arguing Trump didn't falsify business records? (Which is good, because he definitely did, and the jury agreed.)

All you're doing is arguing that he should get away with it.

Nobody really believes that Trump didn't steal, keep, lie about, mishandle etc. the documents, because he clearly did. It's also obvious that he conspired with others to unlawfully overturn the results of the Georgia election, and that he conspired to defraud the government and disenfranchise voters, and corruptly obstructed an official proceeding leading up to Jan 6.

If he were innocent of any of those charges, the trial would have been over in weeks and you'd be trumpeting how he was innocent, not dragged out for years at the price of millions of donor dollars.

[Slingblade1126]

@goaded Um, no he wasn't charged with "felony falsifying business records". For one thing, falsifying business records isn't a felony! If it was, explain to me why the jury had to reach two decisions?

[goaded]

@Slingblade1126 Falsifying business records in the first degree is a felony in New York.

What "two decisions" are you talking about? They made 34 decisions, one for each count, and found Trump guilty for every one of them.

"Penal Law Section 175.10

Falsifying business records in the first degree

A person is guilty of falsifying business records in the first degree when he commits the crime of falsifying business records in the second degree, and when his intent to defraud includes an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof. Falsifying business records in the first degree is a class E felony."

newyork.public.law/.../...penal_law_section_175.10

[Slingblade1126]

@goaded You're telling me the jury didn't have to reach a decision on whether or not Trump falsified business records to conceal a crime? If they decided he didn't conceal a crime, how would that affect the guilty verdict of him falsifying business records?

[goaded]

@Slingblade1126 If they didn't think Trump falsified the records to conceal a crime, he would have been innocent of the crime he was accused of. Just like if they didn't think he'd falsified them at all.

You just explained how the same thing happens with trespassing laws, and you don't see anything wrong with that. It doesn't matter what the potential second crime was, (robbery, rape or murder, I think you said), it matters that they had the intent to commit one.

[Slingblade1126]

@goaded Wrong, again. First of all, you're never found "innocent" by a jury, only "not guilty". Second of all, Trump was found guilty of misdemeanor falsifying business records, that was the first vote, so had the jury not concluded he did it to conceal a crime, he was still guilty of 34 counts of falsifying business records, they just wouldn't be felonies. Are you understanding?

[goaded]

@Slingblade1126 Oh, ffs, you know they're just different words for the same thing.

No, he was charged with and found guilty on 34 counts of (New York) Penal Law Section 175.10, a felony:

"Falsifying business records in the first degree

A person is guilty of falsifying business records in the first degree when he commits the crime of falsifying business records in the second degree, and when his intent to defraud includes an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof. Falsifying business records in the first degree is a class E felony."

newyork.public.law/.../...penal_law_section_175.10

It's one crime, and he would be either found guilty or not guilty. Trump was not charged with any misdemeanours, just the 34 felonies.

[purplepoppy]

Falsification of business records. Smells very much like an Al Capone moment to me, everything points to him being guilty of a lot more but proving it to court standards is a different matter. The fact the witnesses weren't exactly upstanding citizens proves my point because honest people don't associate with those kind.

[blueonblack22]

And the jury pool was selected from the Manhattan district which voted 85% for Biden in 2020. The judge just reported that a juror possibly leaked the the verdict before it was announced. www.thetimes.com/.../facebook-post-trump-juror-cousin-judge-merchan-trial-gp9kpwxd0

But people like absolutely could care less of the trial was fair or not. I wouldn’t be okay with this happening to a democrat. But people like you are fine with banana republic prosecution and lawfare.

[purplepoppy]

I don't follow your logic. It would have only taken one juror to disagree and he would have been found not guilty and no doubt there would have been several right-wingers among them. As for the leak that's a separate crime and doesn't prove him innocent

[DrPepper12]

Often times witnesses are sketchy since you have to work up the food chain flipping them

[blueonblack22]

@purplepoppy if one juror disagreed (and I’m sure at least one did) then it would be a hung jury. A mistrial. But this one juror would have to go back home to Manhattan which is by all statical data extremely anti-Trump.

If this juror’s identity was leaked then this person’s very life could be endangered along with the lives of their family members. Given we already have news that one juror allegedly leaked the verdict BEFORE it was announced the possibility of this juror (s) who voted “not guilty” are extremely high.

There was more societal and political pressure on these jurors then the outcome of the OJ Simpson trial. A dissenting juror would be a huge mob target.

I know there are already been efforts to doxx the jurors identities (which is extremely wrong). But if Trump was found not guilty by the jury I have no doubt their identities would of already been doxxed.

Trump’s defense team requested that the trial be moved outside of Manhattan which Juan Merchan denied. This “oh he was convicted by a jury of his peers” that liberals keeps saying is 110% utter bullshit. Through and through.

Also if the tables were turned and a democrat was convicted via lawfare during an election then I have zero doubt liberals would be rioting right now. But instead conservatives rose records of campaign donations for Trump follow the trial.

[blueonblack22]

Point I am trying to make is there was at least 1 or 2 jurors who had to believe this trial was nonsense. Michael Cohen and Stormy Daniels testimony was horrendous. Cohen admitted to a crime (larceny) that was a more serious than what Trump was accused of on the witness stand. Stormy Daniels decided to go into illicit details about her sexual encounter with Trump (and she changed her story compared to what she claimed years ago). At least one or two jurors had to see that as nonsense. Plenty of room do reasonable doubt.

But they were INTIMIDATED. If they were voted “not guilty” they know are at least at risk of being social pariahs or worse having their very lives in danger. Again they have to go back to live in Manhattan. So they voted “guilty” out of fear not conviction for what was right or wrong.

If ANYBODY else was accused of this nonsense it would have never let to trial let alone resulted in a conviction. Personally I don’t envy being a juror on that trial but still out of all the criminal charges brought against Trump this was the weakest one for sure. And it was intentionally fast tracked by the judge when normally cases like these take years. It was blatant lawfare.

[purplepoppy]

If Trump never had a fair trial we'd be seeing global condemnation but we're not are we?

[loveslongnails]

@blueonblack22 Logical fallacy here. According to your own statement, 15% of the population voted for Trump, and his attorneys had 100% of opportunity to choose from that pool as well. I doubt you wouldn't be fine with this happening to a Dem, or anyone you happen to like. While these are the "less severe" indictments against him, they're the only ones that could proceed since his own appointed judges are arbitrarily delaying the trials with more the serious charges.

"People like you" do not seem to give a shit that he stole, withheld, fought to keep, lied about, instructed his attorney to lie about, eventually showed civilians, classified documents crucial to the safety of the USA and it's allies. "People like you" will hypocritically call yourselves "law and order believers" UNTIL it involves your cult leader or ANY of his lying ilk. "People like you" will scream Banana Republic when in fact, it's your guy growing the bananas and selling them.

And finally, it's "People Like You" who ignore Project 2025 and will gladly bring about a state of fascism because you're too ignorant to totalitarianism wrapped in a Christian flag on the verge of destroying the small pretense of freedom we have left, which also needs a major overall. That will never have a chance of happening if the GOP has its way, and only a slight chance if the Dems get in anyway, but I'll take that chance against "people like you".

[blueonblack22]

@loveslongnails hey buddy ole pal. I was wondering when you were going to show up. Surprised I didn’t hear from you earlier all that’s happened lately. .

So first off with your “ I doubt you wouldn't be fine with this happening to a Dem”. You think I think the same way you do when it comes to viewing the world except I have malevolent intentions. But you’re wrong. Remember when that picture came of Joe Biden hugging and kissing a 12 year old girl on the forehead who he wasn’t related to while he was VP in front of God and everyone else? I know that was quickly swept under the rug by the mass media after Biden was chosen for as the DNC candidate (and meanwhile liberals incessantly brought up Trumps “grab em” comment for years and years). But as unsightly as that was I never nor will call Biden “a pedo”. Some conservatives have but I won’t because that’s an extreme accusation that should never be made against someone unless there is rock hard proof. I actually care about WHAT is right vs BEING right. But I get you see this as a “dog eat dog” world. Zero sum game.

Trump himself could have greenlit his DOJ to go after Hillary Clinton when he was in office for her email scandal. But he didn’t (despite joking about during the 2016 presidential debates). What she did was FAR more egregious than what Trump did with the Stormy Daniels pay off money that everybody already knew about (and Trump got elected anyway in 2016 despite that). But he choose NOT to use lawfare because he knew it would be a very bad look for the country. I agree he did the right thing “at the time”. But I have a feeling he might do differently if he gets back in power because of the Pandora’s box DEMOCRATS opened. That criminal trial and conviction was unprecedented. And all of it was carefully orchestrated and executed during an election cycle. Also the democrats are desperate given a senile calamity turned out to be.

[blueonblack22]

Also “people like you” do NOT care that Obama greenlit a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign back in 2015. Yes trump had a quid pro quo phone call with Zelensky to dig up dirt on Biden. That was exposed and he was impeached. Obama suffered no consequences for what he did. Neither socially, politically nor legally.

“People like you” probably had no problem that Biden used authoritarian power to force mandate vaccines on over 80+ million people. I’m not an anti vaxxer and I’m vaccinated myself (regretting it now). But FORCING people to vaccinate including young healthy people under 30 who are in the military or pro athletes to vaccinate? I know we are all supposed to “forget” about that but I haven’t nor have millions of other people.

“People like you” probably have no problem that the FBI buried the TRUE Hunter Biden laptop story before the election among other things that might hurt democrats. It’s funny that we rarely if ever hear about the deep state working against democrats. But they have the resources to investigate parents in Florida school board meetings and Catholics going to mass. They the DOJ even opened an investigation on anyone who followed Trump’s old twitter account.

[blueonblack22]

It’s people like you who are all about #defundthepolice and including our sitting VP Kamala Harris was bailing rioters out of jail in 2020. But suddenly so called “law and order” matters when it’s convenient for you. Who cares if some rogue Manhattan DA conjured up felony charges out of whole cloth which was (at best) misdemeanor case that already went past the statute of limitations. But meanwhile mention special attorney Robert Hur conveniently won’t file charges on our sitting f*cking president on a felony conviction of mishandling of classified documents because he “he would likely present himself to a jury, as he did during our interview of him, as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory”. But again “people like you” are okay having that as our sitting president.

It’s people like you that exemplify the definition of PROJECTION and gaslighting. And speaking of “Christian flags” I do see a lot of flags being waved around during the holy month of Pride and they definitely aren’t “Christian” flags. I don’t see these so called “Christian flags” being waved at military bases, school and other institutions either. But if you are probably talking about the American flag which wouldn’t surprise me because given you are a communist.

And you talking about “destroying any pretense of freedom” we got left. That’s just absolutely incredible hearing that given the gross authoritarianism the democrats have executed with government brute force in the last few years.

[DrPepper12]

@blueonblack22 basic probability is not you're strong suit it appears

[DrPepper12]

@blueonblack22 I'm sure you'll link reputable sources about all that...🙄

[blueonblack22]

@DrPepper12 hey come on man give me a break. I had to get ready for war with longlivenails (this guy is incredible) lol. Waiting for his response even deep down know I’m wasting my time because he will never change his mind. But I just couldn’t let his last comment go unanswered.

But anyway I will respond you a bit. At least we usually have civil debates on these things. I’ll keep it cool 👍.

[loveslongnails]

@blueonblack22 LOL wow. Here's your response - and it will be my last, especially when you have the audacity to point to "Law and Order" as being convenient for only the Dems when the list of corruption and lawbreaking on both sides is enormous, though more so currently in the GOP on virtually every level. Everyone with REAL power in politics is corrupt, some worse than others. You have your favorites, I have mine. The whole system is for shit.

Call me anything you like, think I'm a Communist, it's all amusing. You have no clue what authoritarianism is until you read what your fascist friends want to bring about in Project 2025, which you have not read. Under their regime you would be forced to live as they dictate and believe what they believe, but don't take that seriously at all. And yes, we ALL live under a pretense of freedom in the USA whether you see it or not. We're the most regulated industrialized country in the world, leading the way in incarcerated citizens as well. By the way, the FISA court has been doing all KINDS of shit for the past 45 years, so pick the events you want to support your narrative, it's all good.

To sum it up, "People Like You" will support anything at all that the American Flag is attached to, no matter what it is, while you label anyone who does not either a Commie or a subversive, while touting yourself as a patriot; you're not, you just want to believe you are. This country's government has done some shameful shit, and continues to do so, no matter who is in charge. It will continue to do so, because that's what power does. Enjoy your life.

[blueonblack22]

@loveslongnails believe what you want. But it’s no coincidence that Biden has a 37.4% approval rating. Americans simply look what kind of shape America was in under the Trump administration vs. the chaos and insanity the Biden administration has enacted. Especially when it comes to hyperinflation, the border crisis and turmoil abroad.

Am I a fan of the bipartisan political system? Hell no. Trump also wasn’t who I wanted during the primaries either. But best of luck trying to tell people “well at least he isn’t Trump” when trying to support a smile corrupt 81 year old candidate who can’t speak coherently for longer then 30 seconds.

Fixating on Trump might of worked for leftists in 2020 but not in 2024. The DNC knows they are in deep shit so like the mafia in 2008 The Dark Knight movie they turned to the joker (lawfare). Leftists opened Pandora’s box with this ridiculous trial and conviction. Never in American history a president enabled his DOJ to use lawfare on political opposition.

[Amy10223]

@purple Poppy, the world knows what a horrible leader he was in his presidency. They know him for what he is... exactly.

[northerngal]

He has only been convicted of 34 felony counts of falsifying business documents. I think. He has lost civil trials and ordered (pending appeal) to pay large sums however but those are not "convictions"

[goaded]

I believe you are correct. There are still three criminal trials outstanding, however, delayed at the cost of millions of donors' dollars and arguably with the assistance of Trump appointed judge and "justices" who accept gifts from billionaires and fly insurrectionist flags.

[OlderAndWiser]

The underlying crime is that he is Donald Trump and Joe Biden cannot win in November, 2024.

[OlderAndWiser]

@DrPepper12 When was he convicted of rape or sexual assault? I missed that on Fox.

[AviatorTom]

@OlderAndWiser That news wasn't on CNN or MSNBC either, or any of the networks.

[bobby_bush_eater]

@DrPepper12 Biden is a pedophile

[Juxtapose]

@DrPepper12 do you honestly believe Stormy Daniels when she said that when they first start having sex she magically blacked out with no drugs and then as soon as they finish she magically came out of it? Again, no drugs involved. She fully admits no drugs were involved.

[CrazyGirl2]

@DrPepper12 As a woman who personally cannot stand Donald Trump, and a rape survivor, I'd like to know where you got that he was convicted of Rape! B/c I remember that he was not convicted of rape, and that E Jean Carrol won a defamation of character lawsuit against him, for when he called her "crazy". Also, when I watched her saying "Oh, I think people think rape is very sexy" on Anderson Cooper's show on CNN, I kinda though she was a little crazy (#NotAClinicalDiagnosis ) myself! As for the convicted felon... From what the legal analysts on CNN have been saying, the judge in that case really screwed up by; 1) Not allowing the defense to know what the case which made it a felony was, and 2) instructing the jury that they did not have to reach a unanimous decision, but "as long as "4 of you can agree on each of the three aggravating counts, so it can me 4, 4, and, 4, you may find the defendant guilty". As a rape survivor who testified against my uncle, and who sat through a trial with several hundred charges, I remember the jury had to find him unanimously guilty on ALL counts. Because one of the jurors believed that he should not be found guilty of indecent exposure with a minor under the age of 15, because he could not have raped me with his clothes on! THAT is how it's supposed to go. Even on MSNBC their legal analysts said it will be overturned on appeal because of the many flagrant errors made by the judge. But hey, I've been mistake before, so if you could give me a source or a link to a reputed news source that shows he was convicted of Rape, I would really appreciate that. If not, please stop saying that he was convicted of rape, not b/c although I cannot give a fuck about Trump, I DO REALLY care about rape and rape survivors, and falsely accusing ANYONE of rape, diminishes the act of rape, as well as those of us who really HAVE been raped! Thanks.

Laura,

[Juxtapose]

@CrazyGirl2 THANK YOU

[9in_Serpent]

@HornyBottomBoy69 tbh i would rather have a teen kid as president but given our stupid American system that only elects old ghouls to be the people in charge of the country and between the two old ghouls one being Biden that seems pro worker and pro unions and a corrupt snake oil sales man that just want to grab as much power and money by selling out the people that follow him (who are poor workers), and selling out his country and the very fabric of democracy yea the choice is pretty fucking clear! I would rather vote for a fish than that swindler and liar Trump. Also I am Communist not a democrat which i also consider right wing. Its sad how you think you are intelligent but you do no sort of critical thinking and worship every word your fake corrupt orange prophet says…. He is literally using all of you you are all nothing but tools how can you not see that?
@HornyBottomBoy69

[CrazyGirl2]

@9in_Serpent Hang on, wasn't Trump the only President in recent history to leave the presidency with a lower net worth than when he entered office? I mean the Obama's were just community activism lawyers before he was elected senator? Yet as soon as he left office they bought a 30 acre beachfront mansion on Martha's Vineyard? (besides, "well, I guess they aren’t THAT concerned about global climate change, rising the oceans") I don’t think anyone could afford that on just $400,000 per/yr, and they definitely didn’t earn enough for a mansion like that, by community organizing! So please don’t pretend that the orange clown is/was the only one to hold that office who wanted "to grab as much power and money by selling out the people that follow him".

Sincerely, Laura

[9in_Serpent]

@CrazyGirl2 why would you report my comment? Lol

[CrazyGirl2]

@9in_Serpent I’m sorry, but I have NO idea what you are referring to.

[9in_Serpent]

Lmfao ok i see how it is! 🤣

[CrazyGirl2]

@9in_Serpent I STILL have no idea what you are referring to. That answer didn't help alleviate the situation. WTF are you talking about?

[CrazyGirl2]

Okay @9in_serpent NOW you’re blocked! Nobody LIES about me, then hides when I call him on his bullshit! and get’s to continue interacting with me!

[MisterWack]

When you say it like that…
I really want to see him guilty on J6, Classified Documents, 2020 Election Fraud, etc.

By the way, Trump has now flipped saying that voting early & by vote by mail is a good thing. “Early voting, people aren’t buying it CNN you dumb bastards” -2020
So…. $787.5 million Fox News lost for settling in the defamation lawsuit also Mike Lindell’s company going bankrupt having to sell off MyPillow machinery / mass layoffs & lowering worker’s hourly wages all in the name of Donald J Trump while Trump flip flops on them. This is why I no longer support Trump/GOP since it is clear and clear he was only out for himself, especially when he wanted to stay in power to avoid the accountability in the court systems creeping up on him. “Join us for the last Christmas at the Trump White House”(Melania Trump said even though her husband was saying publicly that there wouldn’t be a transition to another administration also falsely saying that SCOTUS would overturn the election in favor of Trump which never happened either)

[ManOnFire]

From what I understand of the whole thing, it was about falsifying business records. I'm no Trump supporter but the whole race to convict him is ridiculous to me. There are other high profile cases like these that take years to get the person convicted, but New York attorneys fast-tracked this thing just to be able to get a conviction on Trump to stop him from re-election, which unfortunately I do think is still going to happen.

[exitseven]

He paid his attorney to create a non disclosure agreement with Storm Daniels , not a crime, his acountant entered it as a legal expense , again not a crime. His lawyer paid Stormy Daniels and Trump re- imbrsed Michael Cohen , not a crime.
There was no campaign fund vio;lation because it was before he announced his candidacy. . I wish that they would articulate what the crime actually is.

[ManOnFire]

@exitseven Maybe. Either way I don't really care what their case is against Trump, we can clearly see these are legal people looking for anything they can to stop him. I don't care about his legal problems because all rich men in power have them and they all find ways to get around them.

I don't support Trump, but if you're going to take him down then do it for concrete reasons that really dealt a serious blow to the nation or compromised it in a major way.

[exitseven]

@ManOnFire How about this for a concept. If Biden wanted to get re elected maybe he should have not caused so much hardship and damage to America. He should have tried to be a good president and put his country first instead of last. That is how it is supposed to work.

[ManOnFire]

@exitseven I agree. I'm not voting for him either. I still don't think Trump is the answer though, but he will still get re-elected.

[goaded]

@exitseven Does it ever occur to you that the jury, who saw all the evidence and were instructed in the relevant laws by the judge according to a text that both the prosecution and defence agreed to, might have a better idea of his guilt or innocence than you? Not even for one second?

@ManOnFire You're arguing the prosecution was rushed (it took a year from indictment to trial) while other people are claiming it was past the statute of limitations (where delaying the indictment would have meant not bringing the ultimately successful case at all).

[ManOnFire]

@goaded It’s still faster than other cases that take years.

[goaded]

Are you sure about that? I read New York prosecutes about 100 cases a year of falsifying business records. Trump's conviction wasn't particularly unusual.

www.justsecurity.org/.../

[ManOnFire]

@goaded If that's really true then I guess they're doing the right thing, but I doubt he'll see any jail time for it. The lady they prosecuted for returning unpurchased store items to get store credit is impressive, because that is extremely common and most stores don't ever bother to prosecute people so good on NY for that.

[goaded]

I have to admit, I hadn't read the whole article in detail. That sounds like a creative use of the law, but it seems to have worked out for everyone but Ms. Ramirez!

I think the lesson there is that, given someone they're convinced has broken laws, they can often find a way to convict them, and it's not a bad thing (e. g. Al Capone, who Trump compares himself to).

On the other hand, if someone in power tries to abuse that power, it has to get past a grand jury and a regular jury before it even gets to appeal courts. The system's not as fragile as it sometimes looks, although it is susceptible to delay tactics from rich people.

[ManOnFire]

@goaded And those tactics usually work, which is why most end up never really seeing jail time, they just might get a hefty fine. When you have big money you can do anything.

[goaded]

That's not reasonable, is it?

[ManOnFire]

@goaded Of course not. I'm just saying it is unfortunately the way the world works.

[Red_Arrow]

Hard to tell. Proof has been presented over and over of so many crimes. I have lost track of which one he was convicted of, which ones he is trying to get the judges he appointed to cover him for, how many places he tried to hide documents that he stole (legally they were supposed to be in the archives, and what an idiot hiding them under beds, in bathrooms, in cabinets, in plain sight, etc.), which ones he knows he committed but plans to become president and pardon himself. Whew. I ran out of breath and that was from writing, not talking. But, the list goes on (and on and on and on).

[NaultD]

First was borrowing money on tax except golf land that can only be sold as golf prices to a bank to borrow money like the bank could develop luxury condos or hotels. Classic can't have your cake and eat it too.

Second was using campaign funds fundraising. (maybe even tax gathered funds) on a non sanction use of funding. Even though the money was used as hush money for a porn star to have an abortion is not relevant it is relevant that the party that hates abortion and porn want the same guy as president.

[BadApple69]

Trump was convicted of the worst crime imaginable. He dared to run for president again. Biden and the crooked DOJ can’t allow that.


So anyone who is a Biden supporter please answer this… if the crime was putting a payment for an NDA (non-Disclosure Agreement) written by a lawyer isn’t legal expenses then what is it? And how many companies in NYC have made mistakes when filling out their taxes? Will all of them get 34 felonies? If so, businesses need to flee NYC.
This was all to tie Trump up so he couldn’t campaign. This was all political.
The leftist/ Marxist/communists will do anything to stop Trump.

[goaded]

It's "a payment for an NDA". Legal expenses are what the lawyer charges for drawing up the papers, and that's a long way short of $130,000.

They weren't "mistakes", they were deliberate acts to cover up crimes, and a NY handles a thousand cases a year of falsifying business records: "New York State Has Issued Nearly 9,800 Felony Charges of Falsifying Business Records Since 2015" www.law.com/.../

Nobody has to "flee" NY, they just have to not commit crimes.

[Lliam]

His crime was defating the anointed heir apparent in 2016. The Democrats lost their minds and unelected officials in agencies like the FBI conspired with them to take him down by hook or by crook throughout his entire term.

And, after all that unsuccessful effort, the thought of him beating their candidate in 2024 drove them to search for anything they could to prevent him from winning.

The charges are absurd. But Democrat supports are unaware of the hypocrisy. They have no idea of Democratic officials' and their co-conspirators' depth of dishonesty and corruption.

They are determined to destroy this country, but use tactic of accusing their opponent of doing what they are doing.

[Anonymous]

The “crime” of running for president as a political outsider and WINNING… and trending on winning again! The “crime” of wanting to put some power back in the hands of the American people.

If he wasn’t running for president, there would be no crimes. There would be no accusations. There would be no trial. There would be no convictions. That’s what you have to understand. It’s all fake. Political theatre.

Do you want theatre or do you want reality? I want a legitimately successful country and people, I don't know about you… This world of manufactured political and economic BS is getting old. We’re all worse off because of it. It could be so much better.

[exitseven]

He was convicted because he is a Republican candidate for president and beating the pants off Joe Biden in all the polls.

[juliaanita]

The jury of the convict's peers disagreed with you

[blueonblack22]

@juliaanita a “jury of the convicts peers” who voted 85% for Biden in the Manhattan district in 2020 and now there is evidence that a juror leaked the verdict to a family member ahead of time? www.thetimes.com/.../facebook-post-trump-juror-cousin-judge-merchan-trial-gp9kpwxd0

GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS with the “jury of his peers” bullshit lady.

[DrPepper12]

No but thanks for playing!!

[juliaanita]

@blueonblack22 Listen, you only believe in the rule of law if the case is decided the way you want it decided? Otherwise it's rigged? You only believe in fair elections if your candidate wins? Otherwise the election is rigged?
RE a jury of peers; I'm thinking that if your convicted felon candidate didn't want to tried in Manhattan, maybe your convicted felon candidate shouldn't have engaged in criminal activity in Manhattan. The legal process was fair and square-the convicted candidate received a fair trial and was found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt by all twelve jurors. So bummer about having a convicted felon for a candidate.
But I don't know why you are bitching about it anyways-just add this conviction to the very long list of his civil judgments, liability for 10s of millions for sexual abuse, and defamation, 100s of millions for civil fraud, a judgement against him for his trump university for his charitable foundation.. I could go on..
But just add this criminal conviction to that list and the conviction doesn't look so bad after all...
Unless one really believes in the rule of law and fair elections

[blueonblack22]

@juliaanita the legal process was “fair and square” for a case that would of been a misdemeanor that would of passed the statute of limitations for prosecution. District attorney Alvin Bragg RAN HIS CAMPAIGN on “getting Trump”. He somehow concocted this is into a felony case which is unheard of and unprecedented.

And why are ALL these civil lawsuits and criminal charges coincidentally happening when in late 2023 and 2024. Right in the middle of an election cycle? Why weren’t any of them filed in 2021?

Just sheer coincidence, right?

[Anonymous]

New York democrats claim he didn't file his business records correctly, as if they knew.

But of course if that were illegal they would have had to charge him with it years ago.

So really it is the 'crime' he was not convicted of which is more important and that crime they refused to say, making it impossible to defend against.

[goaded]

Trump didn't have to defend against the crime he was covering up, the crime was the cover-up.

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded If that were so you would be able to say what crime exactly he was supposedly trying "covering up". So that charges and evidence can be presented for it having even taken place.

But once again democrats 'convict' a republican of a crime they can't even name, much-less demonstrate even happened.

This is why democrat courts have no credibility and criminals just rob their cities blind, its clearly not what you did but whom you are that makes you guilty or innocent before a democrat judge.

[goaded]

The crimes Cohen went to prison for committing on Trump's behalf: "causing an unlawful corporate contribution in breach of the Federal Election Campaign Act (FECA) of 1971; and one count of making an excessive campaign contribution at the request of a candidate (Trump) for the "principal purpose of influencing [the] election".

Happy now?

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded Cohen is a lier who committed many crimes. That the New York DA was willing to let him off the hook for the others if he pled guilty to this one does not mean he committed said crime or that it ever took place.

Such is the corrupting power of DAs.

[goaded]

Yes, Cohen is a liar who committed many crimes. For Trump. He went to prison for years for them.

[shortster]

34 counts of falsifying business records; which was past the statute of limitations unless it was in the commission of another crime which the prosecution never even tried to explain what that crime was. Plus the jury was instructed that they didn't have to agree on what that second crime could have been. These convictions should be thrown out on the first appeal; the judge and prosecutor should both be disbarred for it.

[ohsheeT]

I'm not really for sure if it's a crime or not. But I do not want somebody who is a liar a cheater a thief a con man a selfish self-righteous punk ass bitch representing me as a leader... With all the credentials that he holds being in a negative point of view. And can't even admit that he's one of those there's something wrong with that picture. And thinks that he is still better than everybody else and that can do no wrong

[patois]

He wasn't convicted Tom. I'm sure Trump wouldn't go after a pissant like you, but if you don't want to lose your house you should probably not defame people as part of a propaganda narrative push. People aren't convicted in criminal cases until sentencing occurs and a final judgement is signed and recorded... You're playing a dangerous game.

[lightbulb27]

What you should be concerned about is his mentality following all of these issues

and the response from the left if he somehow "pulls a rabbit" and gets enough votes to surpase their the democratic thumb on the scale. Because ain't no way they are going to be "more kind", should he win, for they will be concerned and the backlash great.

What the ensuing mess is going to look like nov+ is relevant.

Hold onto your britches and dig a hole in backyard...

[RedInnocent69]

Falsifying business records for the purpose of trying to influence the 2016 election results. The context goes to sentencing. Although, I expect he’ll get off with a fine rather than jail time. As much as he and his snowflake Trumpty dumbty brigade cry about how the “system” is rigged against him, as a somewhat wealthy businessman, it’s actually rigged in his favour…

[Amy10223]

He's done everything on the list, and he was convicted of 34 counts of falsifying business records for the sake of sleeping with the porn star. I'm still waiting to see why they never got him for doing the same with his taxes.

[Anonymous]

It was hilarious when Piers Morgan had an hour interview with Stormy Daniels about this, and at the end he asked, "oh by the way, what crime was Trump convicted of?" and she couldn't answer.

[AngryCarl]

She only gave evidence at the trial. You can't expect her to know details like that.

[msc545]

She is not a particularly bright individual and she certainly is not a lawyer. I'm not surprised she didn't know what he was convicted of. Big deal.

[chrissykerdock]

what was done is banana republic hilary and joe along with obamba have broken the law but no trials

[juliaanita]

What laws? What evidence do you have?

[chrissykerdock]

@juliaanita i;m not going to through it hunter is no expert in anything his father got him his job as a decoy it's deeper than that hilary destroying 1000 emails

[Friendlybro79]

@chrissykerdock his father getting him a job isn't illegal and allegations aren't evidence. Evidence backs up an allegation. The republicans have found nothing connecting hunter to his father in any wrong doing.. Zero...

If they did they would have impeached him. They want to do badly do it too but they have zero. If that changes and they find real evidence to back up your feelings about Biden then just stop already. I voted for Biden, and I would support him being held accountable if they actually find evidence. Unfortunately most Republicans can't think that way. They think of "my guy" is found guilty of something then automatically the other guy I don't like has to be guilty of something.

Imagine living in your world where allegation is enough to prosecute and imprison someone? I could say I heard you did something bad, make it up, have zero proof , and convince others to repeat it enough times that everyone says it has to be true and then throw you in prison for it lol.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

@juliaanita I mean, she was literally caught running weapons to isis with obama

[chrissykerdock]

@Telekinetic-Potato that's why i don't want to go through it i know what i know and don't want to prove it hhere

[Pudsmucker]

My own opinion about Donald Trump. He was being prosecuted because he wanted to change the role of the political background. He felt a lot of the parties were corrupt and were in the system to make themselves richer. If you notice the man did not take any stipends for his four years. Remember he also said he was going to clean the cesspool. That's when his biggest mistakes started happening.

[normalice]

I selected "trying to influence the 2016 election" because that's the closest but it was the illegal sort of influence, so influence is the wrong word - he was convicted of successfully rigging the 2016 election.

[normalice]

To your update: yes and no. Those are misdemeanors. What made them felonies is that he performed those misdemeanors with the intention (and apparent success) of influencing the 2016 election.

[Enginn]

Falsifying business records last I heard. Robert De Niro was calling him a monster and his supporters gangsters. I dont know why that guy is relevant but I think because he was famous. Famous people look easy to become president of usa no matter if they have political knowledge or not. Thats probably why you have so much corruption. People vote for anyone they like in your country but thats not good enough.

[Anonymous]

for being a straight white man who refuses to apologize for being a straight white man.

that's literally his crime. if they can buck break him, they'll try to buck break anyone.

[DrPepper12]

Yeah. A hetero pale male stale geezer. That's his crime

[Opinion Owner]

@DrPepper12 exactly. that's his crime.

[DrPepper12]

You're woefully mis /. dis informed

[worldscolide]

Falsification of business records, which is bullshit by the way.

[FunkyMonkee]

Being Donald Trump!
Being the best President we've ever had.
Telling the public what the illuminazi's are doing us and trying to stop them from doing it.
Supposedly having orange skin.
Telling the truth.
Mean Tweets.

[Anonymous]

A crime worse then mass murder, and that is winning the 2016 election instead of Hillary Clinton. As a Independent, I don't give a shit what Democrats say, or republicans for that matter, the 2016 election wasn't stolen from Hillary, she lost cause she was a shitty candidate who hung out with celebrities instead of campaigning in swing states.

[CAROSSA]

Saying he falsified business records. I think Donald Trump is more economically savvy. At least under his leadership, the US. economy has been strong. But that's not the case now.

[msc545]

You write this like Trump didn't have a zillion advisors who actually were sharp and persuaded him to do things that were helpful or at least not to do things that weren't helpful. I doubt he personally made any economic decisions himself. He has no real education in economics or anything else.

[Juxtapose]

Wasn't the whole thing about turning it from a misdemeanor to a felony because of election interference? He was being extorted by Stormy Daniels and her previous legal counsel even said so.

[Juxtapose]

Update: You're missing the crucial part where the expired misdemeanors are upgraded to felonies because of election interference..

[Dargil]

Being a Populist Republican who will stir the pot if he is elected. It is not a "conspiracy" but it is a consensus to Get Trump.

[Dargil]

His crime is Breathing While Trump. Like the bad old days when Blacks were jailed for Driving While Black. Its why Black men are switching to Trump. They lived it.

[msc545]

He was convicted of falsifying business records in the furtherance of another crime which was election interference. As I understanded these were the verdicts of the jury and Trump is going to need to pay the price for this one way or the other.

[goaded]

I think the non-existent loophole the right is trying to suggest exists is that nobody exactly proved a particular crime that was being covered up. Their problem is that nobody had to prove one, because the crime was the cover up. (That said, since Cohen was already convicted and did time for election interference on Trump's behalf for the Daniels payments...)

[msc545]

Perhaps there was n't yet another crime that wasn't charged and that would have been conspiracy to commit election interference with Cohen and Trump as the co-conspirators? I'm not a lawyer but so perhaps this is just my fantasy at this point.

[AngryCarl]

Falsifying business records, the sadistic maniac!

[AngryCarl]

In other news Hunter Biden is on trial for filling out a form wrong.

[DrPepper12]

In furtherence of election interference and campaign finance violations

[exitseven]

He is on trial for lying on a gun application. Guns are serious business, Democrats are always screaming about more gun control. Biden's kid unlawfully obtained a gun. What if he shot somebody you know while he was high?

[ProbablyClueless]

NGL it's kind of hilarious that G@G has realized that people's hatred of Trump has a sexual component

[KostasKouvalis]

It sounded like it was bribery, inciting violence, attempted coup, abuse of power, tax evasion and taking home classified documents

[Surely]

I believe those charges are still pending in another jurisdiction.

[Anonymous]

Not exactly sure what he was convicted of, but let's be honest, his crime was being Donald Trump.

[Anonymous]

Being a vocal opponent of the both the uniparty agenda AND the crazy leftist agenda. I think you MIGHT be able to get away with one, but to try both is definitely a crime of some sort.

[gorydetails]

Guilty of speaking out about the intelligence agencies.

[Iron_Man]

For being a Republican and having a great chance of knocking off Joe Biden in November

[9in_Serpent]

being a fugly ass lying and manipulative corrupt son of a bitch! lol

[9in_Serpent]

@ Grazy Girl 2 Trump is a dictator and HE HIMSELF outlined all the things he will do to take absolute power and anyone that disagrees with him will be put in jail. You are supporting a dictator plain and simple. CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THE WORDS COMING OUT OF MY MOUTH? or i should say typed? LMFAO

[MrDaveAPSI]

Falsifying business records. Tax cheat

[coachTanthony]

vote FELON in November

[sage2021]

Actually, none of the above. There was no crime!

[HurremSultan]

No crime and he's hot

[whistlingwh0res]

real estate scam

[whistlingwh0res]

he grabbed her property

[grega239]

No idea