Are you prepping for when the SHTF?

[Drewtate]

We've seen various disasters since 9/11, an economic crash, covid, Hurricane katrina, 2004 tsunami, fukushima meltdown, Oklahoma train derailment etc that you need to be prepared to either hunker down at home until it blows over or bug out real quick. If you think about it most people live a few hundred miles away from a nuclear power plant built decades ago so there's a good chance that one day there may be a melt down. How about a serious pandemic like justinian's plague where the bodies pile up in the streets. Or how about a volcanic winter, where for a whole year or years there is no sunlight. Solar flares, Emps etc knock out the electric grid. Social unrest, rising crime rates, possibly of nuclear war or terror attack. Attack from chemical, biological, radical weapons. Earthquakes. Us Government experiment gets out of control. So much to prep for. We are due a major disaster.

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What few consider is that you could probably travel 70 miles per day by bicycle if you had to bug out and the highways were blocked and won't need gas. Further if it's a hybrid electric bike. A bike will also allow you to carry more than on foot.

[lightbulb27]

was just thinking about this. maybe this is a male thing... we think about what can go wrong.

By traveling around the world, developing relationships so have bailout locations.

Took the family target shooting, but we aren't armed well enough to stop a hungry deer.

Water... fuel.. electric, internet... all issues.

We made friends with chicken farmer, that count?

you really want friends in this world at this point and everyone should have family and friends. anyone without, needs to find them and care for them, build relationships. we need a network of humans.

there is plenty of space in the world to take dislocated people. we need to have compassion for each other because these kinds of issues can turn into major wars... but also be reasonable.

Given the disaster of last 4 years in USA, the SHTF in USA is very possible.

I suggest as usual, you always be prepared. When "it" happens, be thankful it wasn't you, be open to helping others, and hope for the best. If it is you, try to get out and help others.

a mountain just killed 2000 people in a remote village. few weeks back, a sink hole sucked in a little girl. S Happens every day...

remember God loves you too...

[Drewtate]

Put it this way during the great depression there was a shortage of wild game due to over hunting.

[Anonymous]

these are always fun discussions. People STILL are crazy enough to make fun of people who "prep", even though I think we've finally helped people to understand that SHTF scenarios aren't necessarily a nuclear bomb or volcano going off in the middle of town. There are floods, fires, and all sorts of natural disasters that occur throughout the globe, and people who have been "prepping" are likely to be much better off than those who have nothing and are forced to rely on the government to help them.

remember during distasters, governments have been known to shoot people involved in "looting". So the answer "i'll just go rob my neighbors or their stores if I need anything", isn't a solid game plan.

[Drewtate]

Like most of those "looters" were probably looking for food

[EmmaMary]

Yet more pathetic scaremongering fucking Bollox! smh

[Drewtate]

You are 30 years old, you've seen enough in the last 20 or so years, hell you lived through the covid quarantines, terror attacks etc. Flooding is the UK 's big concern right now.
www.google.com/.../flood-alerts-warnings-record-number-uk-weather

[EmmaMary]

Yes you're absolutely right, and I quite simply take it all in my daily stride... I have far more important things in life to be getting on with, than being even remotely concerned about things I have no or very little control over.

[Drewtate]

Failing to prepare is preparing to fail. Fema for instance recommends you keep a few days food and water in your home just in case and the Scandinavians are massive preppers. What if you couldn't go out to the shops, how long could you last?

[EmmaMary]

I'll start worrying about all that nearer the time... Thank you.

[Drewtate]

Be too late. How long did it take to get water to the survivors of hurricane katrina in the stadium?

[EmmaMary]

How the hell would I know, I'm not in the USA.

[Drewtate]

Did they ever dort thst problem in England where the apartment buildings catch fire because they lined in highly flammable materials?

[DrPepper12]

Well said @EmmaMary

[EmmaMary]

Thank you for the MHO.

[Skinhead-1979]

I am more worried about what's going on in the Middle-East than anything else; the situation has the potential to evolve into a World War with nuclear powers involved.

Regarding the many disasters in the world, and the potential for many more... I dare to say a lot comes down to overpopulation. I firmly believe the world was not mean to hold... what is it now?8 billion people. All the resources needed to maintain such a large population drain the world, cause massive pollution which effects the environment; people increasingly fight over territory and resources leading to devastating wars.

The food industry is not sustainable; farming on the scale needed to keep the world population fed is not sustainable, same as the raising livestock of is not sustainable.
Due to an ever increasing world population space becomes scarce, and the subsequent increase of people living per square Kilometre leads to Bacteria and/ or Viruses to spread and develop faster/ easier, leading to 'Pandemics'.

In my opinion the total world population needs to be brought down through a 1-child policy. After a few generations have passed, the total World Population will have been brought down to more sustainable levels. In the meantime the World, and thus the environments can recover making it possible for future generations to live in a better world than we do. Hopefully a safer world.

[Drewtate]

In the us we have so much food that a large percentage of the population is obese, we throw away food, farmers are paid not to grow and we export more than we need.

[Skinhead-1979]

I have my views on food in the US, admittedly based on the little bit I know of course... but in general, also here in the UK, our food consists of a lot of heavily processed, 'manufactured' food. It's no longer 'real', natural food. Sure, some natural ingredients are still being used, but contents is often low and then a lot of chemicals are being added, salt and sugar to come to the end product... which are not exactly good for the body... Even fresh meat has a lot of chemicals in it. In the US you have Hormone Beef, or Chlorinated Chicken; here in the UK young cattle or poultry, for consumption, is being injected with a lot of antibiotics, vaccines and other chemicals to ensure that livestock stays healthy. In the US there's GM Food, it's being resisted in Europe... though I am sure it is invading our markets too.

[Skinhead-1979]

The cause for this is an ever increasing world population, food production: farming, raising livestock, etc it cannot keep up with the ever increasing demand for food in the world. Producers have to resort to cheaper alternatives to be able to keep with demand. There is also the financial aspect, but I do dare to say that plays less of a role.

Chocolate? Most bars you can buy do not contain Chocolate. If you read the list of ingredients, high chance Cocoa Butter is listed as the main ingredient. That's the fatty substance around the Cocoa Beans; Real Chocolate is being made of the Bean.

Honey? Most Honey being sold is not real Honey. It's been made of Sugar Syrup, no Bees involved at all.

Fruit Juices? Maybe 10% Fruit content, the rest is Water and Sugar.

Margarine? That's not Butter

The list goes on and on.

There is certainly no food shortage (prices didn't rise, at least here in the UK, because of a shortage... they rose due to increased trade tariffs as a result of Brexit, and food companies refused to pay the higher price. The 'shortage' was man-made)... The Quality of our food is the problem; couple with some other issues (e. g. poor mental health and neglect; medical reasons)

[exitseven]

I have a shotgun and a handgun and I have been stockpiling ammo. I am also stockpiling food and I have a big supply of drinking water. I am trying to find a good way to store a hundred gallons of gas on my property.

If President Trump is re-elected there will be riots and fires. It will make the summer of 2020 look like a little kid's birthday party.

[Drewtate]

I always keep a good supply of ammunition and magazines, plenty of 9mm & .223 remington for my two glocks and two ARs.
I've other weapons but trying to keep commonality between ammo and magazines if I need them. As well as body armour and a kevlar helmet.
That's where it gets tricky as if I'm in a situation where my family and I are fleeing we are probably only going to get as far as the freeway or gas in the tank will allow, then we are going to be on foot so I'm not going to be able to travel fast with a vest on carrying an ar15, magazines and a rucksack. So I'd have to drop most of that and maybe just carry a glock with a couple of magazines, a knife, a flash light, some water and hopefully find food on the way.

[DrPepper12]

You've really put that much thought into it? What about the travel or food or entertainment you and your family could have enjoyed? The time spent with family doing things together.

[Drewtate]

@DrPepper12 depends on the situation. If you fleeing for your life with your family on foot, the more you have the slower you will be. What happens if an entire city has to evacuate is the highways become blocked.
Do you think those 30,000 sheltering in the louisiana superdome had much time to worry about entertainment, in fact most were unprepared. Most if they had to do it again would bring a lot of water and food.

[exitseven]

@DrPepper12 It is better to be prepared. We could be going to war.

[DrPepper12]

Must've missed that on liberal media. Do tell

[Drewtate]

@DrPepper12 Russia, Iran, the Middle east...

[DrPepper12]

So we're going to war with all of them like a gang bang or is it more like they'll tag in against us?

Hey, whats the reasons for this war anyway?

[exitseven]

@DrPepper12 The exploding crime rate is turning most cities into war zones. It is only a matter of time before they turn their attentions to the suburbs.

[DrPepper12]

Where do you get this shit from? The topic bar on Brietbart called "Chicago crime"?

Cities have never been safer. Look at the accurate measurement of PER CAPITA crimes between cities and rural. You'll learn something.

[exitseven]

@DrPepper12 If they are compiled by the FBI they are totally fake. A lot of crimes are not counted. They are called something else. Some law enforcement agencies do not report crimes to make their own statistics look better than they actually are. All you have to do is look around to see how bad things are getting. My next door neighbor's house was broken into. There have been locker room thefts at the gym where I work out. There have been more serious crimes in my town and the surrounding towns. Mostly armed robberies and car thefts but you see more vandalism and there has been a rape and a few assaults. It does not feel as safe as it was. I keep my bulkhead locked and have upgraded the locks on my doors. I even lock my garage.
I never thought I would on firearms but after my next door neighbors house got broken into in broad daylight I decided I would buy a shotgun and a handgun. I did this partially became I was afraid that soon I would not be able to own guns.

[Dargil]

I am buying guns and ammo. The greatest danger is Leftist anarchy and chaos. We have seen it with BLM and Antifa. In a fight, front sight. Two to center of mass, one to the head. Yep, I'm prepping.

[Drewtate]

Got into a tussle with some antifa dudes way back blocking the road, pussies everyone

[Dargil]

Mostly you should use non-lethal force. I keep one of these on me in public at all times.

It will get DeShawn's attention when he needs it.

[Drewtate]

Law can be funny, he might sue after.

[DrPepper12]

BLM? Antifa? Leftist anarchy? Sounds like a fox "news" wheel of fear list.

[DrPepper12]

Was it covered by the media why they were blocking the road?

[DrPepper12]

Why? Why do you need that? Must be ruff area or your an anxious snowflake

[Dargil]

@DrPepper12 sounds like the truth. What's on your MSNBCNNBCBS ignorance List?

[Drewtate]

@DrPepper12 they are very real unfortunately. As a member of the black community I've had dealings with Antifa. Imagine these privledge white middle class college kids going around wrecking black communities, blocking traffic, stopping folks from going to work or the store because they apparently support black rights. Last time they tried to stop me coming home from work and were scrapping and jumping on my hood I floored it.

[DrPepper12]

Not commercials for gold, life insurance, tax evasion attorneys and tactical taint underwear. Have you ever noticed that all of these conservative networks are selling items related to fear and anxiety and manipulate the watchers into being even more fearful?

[DrPepper12]

As well you should have! Break the law? Deal with consequences.
Some of these mfers ARE white privileged shitheads. What's proposed above is easily falling into vigilante level shit

[Drewtate]

@DrPepper12 have you ever noticed that woke companies, loan companies and credit card companies are targeting black people?

[BetaBucks]

I prepped through the summer of 2019 and have been all set since then. Might need to replace or upgrade some of my stuff though.

[DrPepper12]

I'll live my life until it happens. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[Drewtate]

I will use your lifeless body as a sandbag then.

[DrPepper12]

As you should! I gambled and lost just as preppers are the losers of time, money and opportunity costs for when threats don't occur.

[Drewtate]

Not really. A lot of preppers I know for instance during covid survived very well and ate like kings.

[DrPepper12]

I'm arguing opportunity costs. A cost benefit analysis for when the threat DOESN'T occur.

[Drewtate]

But it always occurs.

[DrPepper12]

No. No it doesn't.

[Drewtate]

Yes it always does.

[XXblack88]

in some ways yes in others I'm not sure

[worldscolide]

Been preparing for a decade

[jahaims]

I prep for fun/hobby. Long before covid etc.