Elon Musk should be extradited to the UK to stand trial. Agree?

[purplepoppy]

Of course you do, what right-minded person wouldn't. The riots in England are being blamed on misinformation and race baiting spread on twitter. Now Musk is liking racist posts including racially offensive cartoons and blaming the police/government for being one sided. He's also went as far as saying civil war is inevitable.

The British government is accusing him of fanning the flames of hate and says he should be more responsible.

I say he's a smug little shit and we should shoot down his satellites and demand the USA sends him over to face justice.

[Skinhead-1979]

I don't see how this is going to work; while I deplore him as a person, and the many things he seems to support... Shutting him and X down will only ensure that the Far-Right will move to more obscure platforms which will be more difficult to track.

This is a problem with the Far-Right in general now; they are not centralised, they do not have any central leaders. The police struggles already to find out who is behind the 'protests'. A 'Tommy 10-names' has fled the country, the ELD has long been disbanded... yet they are still very active. Musk banning 'Tommy 10-names' from X had absolutely no effect other than that it became more difficult to track him.

And the sad fuck isn't even the biggest problem? Who are behind him and a Nigel Farage, and many others like them?

These...'Gammons'... they are nothing but 'foot soldiers'; 'cannon fodder'... They can be dangerous, yes, but they are nothing compared to the ones who bankroll and need them.

[monorprise]

If a despot goverment tried to shut down free speech in England, We Americans would help the brittish people continue to talk freely.

[Skinhead-1979]

@monorprise There are limitation to Free Speech in the UK regardless of who is in government.

But Free Speech is not the issue in the UK. 3 young girls have been murdered, and the Far-Right is out in force because they believe an Immigrant killed the girls; which isn't true. The perpetrator is British born... but regardless, the actions of the Gammons is deplorable. 3 girls have been murdered, and you go looting and plundering? Yeah, that's the way to convey Free Speech... Looting a tray with Pastries from Greggs... Yeah, that's going to safeguard Free-Speech

[monorprise]

@skinhead-1979
You you really believe people would become enraged like this because of a single insolent which happens all the time?

Its quite transparently clear even here in America they are rioting over the ongoing nature of the issue of a 2 teired justice system with regard to the importation of a hostile and incomparable culture which their political class has for decades refused to address despite many elections to do so.

Theses issues didn't start last week, nor did they boil over into helpless rage overnight. That insolent was a trigger and unless you acknowledge that fact this will happen more and more frequently as the people of your country become ever more convinced of the futility of "democracy" there.

You can arrest all the protestors you want, there will be an endless team of more motivated by the same cause.

Ultimately your looking at a Civil war because that is what happens in every other country on earth where you have forced together such starkly incompatible communities. They fight until they agree on new national borders or one side subjugates the other.

The UK isn't going to be the "Special" exception, your not even in a position to integrate these immigrates and their numbers are already too large & spiteful. You are going to have to choose between them and the native population.

[Skinhead-1979]

@monorprise No we are not looking at Civil War... As soon as these idiots are done looting Greggs and got all the pastries they want they'll go home.

Oh, and they want to build a mosque in Mecce... so lets have them do that too.

If there is going to be a Civil War... they'll be all dead soon enough. You think they have the numbers? Lol, don't make me laugh

[monorprise]

@skinhead-1979
I wasn't implying the united kingdom was in a civil war but likely to have one.
Obviously not by the hands of the brittish now motivated to protest but by the force of incomparable and conflicting cultures now ever more at odds in the basic nature of your goverment.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see what is going to happen. I can see it based upon observations around the world, including your own neighbor of France and knowlage of our own Civil war which was to be frank on the basis of far more fundamental differences inspire of a strong legal framework that would have allowed them to exist.

England has no such framework and its non-integrating Islamic cultures are not inclined to peacefully tolerate the non-mulsim communities long term. So they are quite openly simply waiting until their numbers are strong enough to forcefully subjugate you. This is not a well kept secrete, but rather a acknowledged planned demonstrated countless times over the history of Islam.

So the British native population will either bend over and submit, or leave.

Appearances aside it looks quite clear not every one of you is keen on bending over, even thou many in your elite are.

[Levin]

@monorprise thank you for stating this and I can't see why no one else does not see it as abundantly obvious. There are real problems with integration and there are much wider problems bubbling and simmering away under the surface. This is not something that started a week ago. I'm guessing, well, the irony was definitely lost on the BBC last night. There first story was the riots, the second was the Taylor Swift concerts being cancelled in Austria due to the threat of Islamic terrorism. I suppose this threat of violence and barbarism, a man with a picture holding fucking huge knives so he can 'culturally enrich' the native population, is something we Europeans have to get used to as the norm

[Levin]

There is a most excellent video on YouTube by David Starkey and GBNews that has been released in the past day or so. I urge everyone to view it and actually try and address the points there. You know, for those who are still capable of nuanced thinking. These are the same kind of tactics they used during covid , anti vaxxer, far right. A good way to shut down debate. By all means, any kind of thuggery is deplorable. But this issue runs far deeper. And as Dr Starkey says, if you give no proper outlet for expression during normal or political channels, the wound just festers. Sorry, but this is not going to go away.

[monorprise]

@Levin Its fairly obvious that although your radical left who hate your prosperous culture anyway is happy to bend over to the Islamic colonizers today.

Seeing them as 'victims' of their enemy. It is also self-evident with theses riots that not everyone of your people is willing to surrender your 10s of thousands of years of history without a fight.

For the left this is purely about going after their political enemeis to secure power at all costs. The fact that their new friends and 'allies' will inevitably hang them first seems lost on the left. But then again if long term thinking were a skill of leftist they wouldn't be leftist.

[RebelinSteel]

This is one of the areas being discussed in the EU, UK and other countries tries, a lot of social media places avoid the fact that they are responsible for what is posted on their platforms. A lot of what is being posted is being generated from countries that usually spread fake stuff and stoke the flames, then the fuckwits (who are not all far right) jump on the bandwagon and raid Greggs with some other rioting. A number of those posting online with hate are having their employers passed the various postings they are making. It appears a few are losing their jobs, bummer.
Back to the should Musk stand trial, likely not but there needs to be a financial penalty for not ensuring fake, contentious posts are quickly identified and removed.
There is the historical use of Telegram messages to start wars or result in countries joining wars, the Ems telegram pretty much resulted in the Franco Russian war and then the Zimmerman telegram in WW1, US joins the war. There is reckoned to be a good chance Social media will result in armed conflict.

[Kayla45]

Elon musk is based in a stupid kind of way, but I’ll admit. I have Starlink and it’s a game changer if you live in the middle of nowhere praying to get good connection elsewhere.

[Taylor_C]

Are you crazy? This may be the most ill informed post ever published online.

[Anonymous]

Elon is just telling it like it is. The people who complain about him do tend to hate liberty, freedom, and the rule of law.

I like that he's willing to be honest about what he believes. Marxism is a disease that Elon has no time for.

As for the British Government, and the riots. British Govt officials who support these policies should be tried for Treason. What they have done to the native population by importing 3rd world thugs into Britain is disgusting. I hope the people of Britain rise up and take back control of their country.

The Law of Property is the cornerstone of the English Rule of Law. If a person can't defend his home without being arrested, they are living under tyranny. Elon is doing and saying the right things. Britains I'm sure appreciate it. The British Government has subverted the Rule of Law, and they are guilty of treason. The Marxist's who gin up this sort of civilization destabilization will ultimately find themselves at the mercy of the people, and the civilization they oppressed.

Elon Musk is just making sure he ends up on the winning team, he's no dummy.

[Bricealan]

Everyone commenting here seems to have a firm grip on world political affairs, and they must have a PHD in Political Science, regarding what does and what does not effect the way, and by whom, racial hatred is generated, how it is spread and who funds it. This is far too cerebral for me to comprehend and comment on

BTY - WWIII is coming, followed by the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, The Anti-Christ IS Elon Musk, The entire collapse of civilization is at hand, followed by a Second Middle Ages period... If Musk is not extradited to the UK, tried, convicted and hanged by the neck until dead... all is lost... Praise God !!! 🤷‍♂️😒😁

[CalmUntilAbused]

Would You really sacrifice the benefits of Starlink for ideology-related disputes? Also, Elon Musk is free to like whatever he wishes, that's what freedom of speech and expression is about. And I do agree with him that if everything goes the way it does go so far, a civil war is inevitable (think the MGTOW movement). I could find more than one bone to pick with Elon Musk (his Neuralink madness and his both ignorant and arrogant attitude towards fuel cell technology being fine examples), but I shall not infringe on his freedom of speech and expression or deny him whenever he's actually right about something due to my differences with him.

[CalmUntilAbused]

Also, Twitter is called X now. Oh, and that's yet another one of my bones to pick with Elon Musk, but still, it's reality.

[Anonymous]

We'll will give your people guns to defend themself but not Elon.
We will not agree to enforce your despot's speech codes, that is contrary to our Constitution.

And frankly you have no way of knowing what is and is not misinformation without free speech. Among that free speech it is quite clear already that much of what your goverment and its slobbering press is saying is itself misinformation.

Theses Riots are in Labor party areas among locals, were that not the case you would show us the busses and easily cut off the rioters at the entrances.

Your goverment is also very clearly lying about equal application of the law and has been for many decades.

[Avicenna]

Leftists don't even bother to hide it anymore that they are full-on Nazis who want to imprison their political opponents.

Maybe the UK should look in the mirror and admit that it's awful government policies that are to blame and that they can't censor reality.

[monorprise]

That would require their political and economic elite acknowledge the disastrous cost of their decades of immigration and non-assimilation and take drastic and unthinkable actions to restore the united Kingdom to its cultural stability. @Avicenna

Their politicians keep claiming to deal with the problem or to some how "assimilate" the Islamic colonies but that is impossible where they are and, and only getting more and more unlikely even if you were to move them with each additional 'immigrant'.

All the while they are lying thou their teeth about everything even trying to recast brittish history as if to pretend they didn't create this huge problem. The brittish political and economic Elite are the definition of dishonest and self-centered, and disconnected from reality brats.

The United Kingdom is well on its way to collapse into balkanization and centuries of warfare because of it.

[Avicenna]

@monorprise: You are 100% correct. And there is clearly something wrong with a society where the ruling class wants to imprison those who protest against its awful, sometimes completely illegal policies.

[monorprise]

@Avicenna Wealth and power is the very thing that destroys the elite in every country over time as it isolates them from the real world and enables them and their children to become ever more dilution. Much like the city in general does to the general population for the same reasons.

Civilizations either regularly replace their elite with new non-crazy people or they fall to their insanity. That only happens when Government is limited and the elites power and wealth as such is limited to themselfs allowing them or their children to destroy themselfs.

[Avicenna]

@monorprise: Quite true. Greed and the desire to be control freaks are characteristics of these corrupt elites.

[AviatorTom]

If you're going to charge Musk, then several others should be charged too, especially Zuck (Facebook) and the owners of TikTok, Google, YouTube and all the other online services that allow people to make opinions.

[Levin]

Yeah, it's all social media's fault.

Nothing to do with 20 years of political failure, mass migration, standards of living tanking, and all around general government incompetence.

[on_my_knees]

We'll trade him for those smug little fucktards who founded Cambridge Analytica.

[Tiktok_Broccoli_Girl]

It's sometimes hard to distinguish when @turquoisepuppy is 🤡🤭 or ❄♿

[on_my_knees]

She can't help it
They're taught from a young age how to sew discord into American society.

[Drewtate]

Are they not one sided. Was Muslim rioters allowed to freely riot by police?

[Anonymous]

Absolutely not. you've fallen for the Jewish, capitalist, oligarchic plot to call all news agencies that are free from the influence of wealthy, authoritarian owners, "fake alternative extremist news". the reality is that no one can get views on Twitter or X who isn't sharing real information grounded in reality. whereas the media crafts a story that promotes their insane agenda.

[handsomelad70]

If it can be proven Musk incited this spasm of racial hatred, of course he should be extradited to face trial, but it's extremely tough to prosecute someone for what could be argued to be protected speech.(See:Trump and Jan.6,2021.)

[MoroccanPrincess]

He is a war mongering fascist I think he should be extradited to UK for inciting violence and hate.

Also I despise him entirely I've never liked him

[OddBeMe]

Well…as much I want to agree…I would say Europe in general doesn’t have the free speech laws America has.

But if UK cops can literally link back to inciting a riot…maybe. Like Trump that’s not free speech.

[dustybiker2]

He's just upset that his last rocket went... Fizzle

[Dargil]

Did he post it? Did he even know about it? Should the American mass media be tried for their continual lies?

[Anonymous]

Is there any news source that is truly unbiased and free of propaganda? I wouldn't say BBC and CNN are objective either

[Ladsin2]

I think he should provide free internet to UK citizens so they can use the internet and see the news without being surveilled/ shielded from news by the Ministry Of Truth.

[Surely]

I guess the Lefties don’t like it when someone can speak what is on their mind. But can’t do anything about it!

[Anonymous]

Unfortunately, the way things stand now he has a First Amendment right to say the things he’s saying

[Twalli]

He isn't breaking U. S. law and is doing this in the U. S. Since he didn't spread this while in the U. K. he's not eligible fir extradition.

[Anonymous]

Nah, just let him put in a bid to buy the UK, send the lefties somewhere they'd like for example Ukraine or Canada

[MrGSpotHer]

He's right though everyone's been saying it for decades 😂

[robocop666]

diversity does not work. Look at South Africa and the former Yugoslavia.

[normalice]

Just ban his platform in the UK, in my opinion.

[Amur8711]

But that's exactly what's happening over there and across Europe.

[summersky07]

Nope. He’s in here in the United States where we have freedom of speech. Grow up.

[elizamichale1]

U r absolutely right

[gorydetails]

As Elon so eloquently put it..."Go fuck yourself"

[on_my_knees]

Or, as my Mistress puts it "As you explore the depths of solitude, may you also explore the depths of your anus."

[dudegreat91]

Nah UK is not that important