Do you think this should be a USA law?

[Juxtapose]

Employees are fully entitled to record themselves at all times (except in restrooms, etc) and if they record someone verbally abusing them, it is sent to the abuser's employer. Make the whole thing very public so people are disincentivized from verbally abusing workers.

[DJB72]

In some states it should be covered by the First Amendment.

Some also have laws allowing one party consent to recorded interaction. It really shouldn't be an issue for an employer to allow themselves to be recorded in any and all encounters with staff or customers. Why would a responsible, sane, honest employer be afraid of being recorded?

I've been both an employee and an employer, and although I'm currently not either when I get back to being able to work and get a business going again I won't have any issue with an employee recording me or publishing the video as long as it's shown in full context - because I'll be recording them myself for the protection of all parties. I'll be putting a sign in my office where it can be seen stating "Your presence in this office constitutes an agreement for your time here to be recorded for everyone's protection at all times"

You can't afford not to these days. Tacit agreement by entering the office to being recorded.

It's a pity it's become necessary. Accountability to all used to be the norm. Character was as important as ability for promotion to a leadership position. Especially something as significant as a Presidency, be it in business or politics.

[Juxtapose]

No I mean the employee themselves would record and then send it to the offender's employer.

[DJB72]

Either way. No employer should be afraid to be recorded at any point or any interaction as long as context is included.

Consider the recent viral video of the British cop kicking the young muslim boy in the head at Manchester airport. Calls for the cop's dismissal were suddenly silent when the CCTV footage of the young man viciously attacking an armed officer, breaking her nose, and attempting to take her sidearm before the cop in the viral video suddenly arrived on the scene and to her assistance - the last part of which was filmed as the viral clip.

Context is everything.

But yes, the employee should have the right to record any interactions with managers as evidence of abuse that can be used to exonerate an employee. Unfortunately, if a manager behaves that badly, reporting it to the employer only makes it worse as the employer probably knows. It can, however, be useful to get a decent settlement for unfair dismissal or forced resignation.

[Caroline91]

I like that you note the importance of full context. It's amazing how meanings can change without the proper context, or even just adding/eliminating one word.

[BCA6010]

You can already do that (at least the filming) in some places.

This would not likely have the impact you expect though; anecdotally speaking, the worst customers are overwhelmingly unemployed or retired women who are shopping alone. Furthermore, a lot of employers flat out do not care if customers are doing anything short of committing a crime, anyway, and in some cities ruled by brainrotten activists, even theft is basically written off. Because the USA has a culture of "the customer is always right," this includes tolerating most of their BS so long as it isn't criminal.

[luvstoned4him]

Forget law

I already decided to do this.. off my own

Gotta hold people accountable somehow.. in this society of favoritism and nepotism.

Besides I've noticed majority of people only believe a victim if they see it with their eyes so

[Juxtapose]

Good on you! Please keep me updated on any people you bust.

[luvstoned4him]

@Juxtapose will do

[OddBeMe]

I mean…maybe we should instead make mental health care a free thing.

In Europe you can take a week off for stress and go to a spa for free.

[Juxtapose]

I want at least what I saw in London Heathrow.

[OddBeMe]

Then you’d never have a job again.

[Juxtapose]

You have no idea who I really am and have grounds to judge me.

[OddBeMe]

True! And true for the people you want to regulate with this stupid idea of a law.

[Juxtapose]

Retail workers are in a unique position where they are not allowed to fight back so I am all for them being given tools to fight back. It is already perfectly legal to notify their employer about their behavior so what's the fuss? Why not make it easier for powerless employees to fight back?

[OddBeMe]

Shrug…there are store policies and managers on each shift with the power to call police and have them trespassed. Outside that, it’s like me being a vendor. Some of my clients talk nasty to me knowing they hold the purse strings.

[DrPepper12]

No that seems to be the right way to handle things. Have the HR department get involved. They'll cooperate with enforcing the laws we already have.

[Dongie]

Fuck no. What law, freedom of speech?

[Juxtapose]

Really all it is doing is allowing employees to record verbal abuse and then send it to the abuser's employer. No prison time or fines.

[Dongie]

Maybe lose their job.

[Juxtapose]

Good!

[Dongie]

No, not good. Not for defending oneself. Why good? You like working and being run over by a sneaky punk.

[Juxtapose]

It's to defend employees from abusive customers.

[Dongie]

Oh. That's different

[Dongie]

They do deserve it

[Juxtapose]

I thought so as well.

[Dongie]

I stand corrected.

[Juxtapose]

Oh it's all good 👍

[Dongie]

Did u see the question about the 6 year old boy torchered to death?

[exitseven]

Don't we have enough laws already,,?

[NathanDavis]

don't give Karens ideas... lol

[Juxtapose]

This is actually pretty anti-Karen.

[NathanDavis]

if you open the gate... it opens for both, lol

[Juxtapose]

Nothing changes for employees because they are already being watched on the job anyway.

[gorydetails]

We don’t need more laws.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

Any one party state this is legal