Why is it okay to sing “fuck the patriarchy” but it is in acceptable to remotely criticise modern feminism?

[Anonymous]

I think modern feminism is way worse that the patriarchy
At least patriarchy gave women privileges they were the first to be evaluated from the titanic , they didn’t fight in WW1 & WW2 with the same number as men
Modern feminism is all about getting more privileges and not taking more responsibilities

If it is allowed to sing fuck the patriarchy, then It should be okay to say fuck modern feminism too

[cuttl]

Care to expand on privileges you see feminists asking for and the associated responsibilities they don't want to accept?

Personally, I believe the draft (USA) needs to be eliminated. If that's not achievable, then both men and women should have to sign up for the draft.

[Asker]

1- There are jobs specifically directed to women
2- men are expected to pay for dates
3- You can’t really use the USA draft system now because most of the us army is not fighting
If feminists want to be equal they should ask Ukrainian women to go to war or appreciate that men are fighting for them
4-equal sports pay is completely unfair
5- some places offer free entry to women just because they are women
6- this is rare but some women can accuse men of rape without providing a proof (happened to a lot of university athletes)

[Asker]

Personally
Hearing a woman saying
Women don’t need men is the stupidest thing a woman can say to a man
Because this mean this woman is only willing to offer sex and she will attract men who only want to have sex

[Anonymous]

Because women are supposed to be oppressed. And while they do have equality now. They still are not doing equal amount of the work yet. So they aren't getting equal amounts of the rewards. As a result they can still play the card that they're "oppressed".😆

Criticizing feminism has never been acceptable. It might have excusable by societal views. But it's never been acceptable.

[Asker]

Yes
It how much more they can get at this point

I don’t see anything stopping a woman from doing anything these did

They got everything they want , a woman can be anything today even the president

Now it is about provoking men calling them worthless and violent so when we talk back
They can play victim again

[normalice]

What nonsense are you talking about? There are whole industries devoted to criticizing modern feminism, even making stuff up if they can't think of anything real to criticize 😅

[Asker]

Could you give me examples?

[normalice]

Fox News. Sinclair. Newsmax. Hundreds of manosphere influences on YouTube, twitter, tic tok, Facebook, social media in general, not to mention right wing radio pioneered by Limbaugh. Granted, these people tend to provide made up reasons to hate much more than just feminism but that is certianly a fundamental.

[DrPepper12]

Why not? No idea is above criticism? I've argued with feminists about tactics, not goals.

[Asker]

But can I say out loud
Fuck feminism?

[DrPepper12]

That's not an argument. That's a petulant reaction. WHY FUCK feminism?

[Asker]

Because modern feminism now
Is depicted men as the enemy
“Men are dangerous , men are violent. Women don’t need men “

The difference between men and women has never been that big

Women became more masculine, feminine behaviour is weakness birth rate is very low divorce is at all time high. Women happiness is significantly less what it used to be 70 years ago

[DrPepper12]

Your succling at the teet of fear, lies and outliers. Your being played. Modern feminism only demands equality if opportunities, not equity of outcomes.

[Asker]

You are saying a very general statement
Give me specific examples
Women have equal opportunities now already
In fact there is job opportunity and scholarships specifically intended for women
Equal pay In Sports , this is an outcome not opportunity

Women don’t need men is an acceptable statement
But if I said men don’t need women It is hate

Where is the equal opportunity in the army why feminists not try to get 50 % of the army

Some Men are rapist , true
Some women are too , and some women falsely accuse men of rape putting them in prison for years

How many women cheated and got children with different men?

We never see women talk about the bad behaviour of some women who don’t take accountability for their actions

All we hear is the bad men who did bad things for women

I once mentioned the guys who took bullets for their girlfriends in 2012 dark night movie to a feminist
And she labeled it as act of kindness
Would a feminist take a bullet for her boyfriend , no she won’t

I don’t respect OF pornstars and a feminist told me I have to respect all women

We have been loving in piece for too long when war comes
I hope feminists will fight beside us and not run away like Ukrainian women did

[Anonymous]

Thank you for checking in for your weekly crying session.

[Asker]

Thank you for proving my point.
You don’t have a logical answer, so you are just saying something that will make you feel better

[NaultD]

The difference of punching up vs down.