What are some ridiculous things feminism gets blamed for?

[anon1903]

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@Ladsin2 is kinda giving incel energy. Saying “you don't need rights to be in the economy” like... Sure man.

[monorprise]

Feminist in control of our culture and education system have much to answer for in their ongoing effort to upset the biological reality of human civilization.

So yes they can indeed be blamed for many of our problems particularly in the relationships areas, having made our culture and education systems incomparable with human biology.

Theses life systems simply do not work under their demands and the conditions they created with theses institutional.

The reasons was in fact predicted and ignored:

A) Most women are not happy with the few men they can look up to because they are overwhelmingly players if they are even available to date at all.

B) Most men are unhappy with there being few women who are interested at all in what they can offer. Due to their failed education and thus income potential.

Feminist made both of theses problems orders of magnitude worse by changing cultural and education practices to appeal better to girls than boys in decades past.

That simple change alone has caused enormous economic and social hardship.

But feminist in theses institutions didn't stop there.

C) Feminist also upset the family dynamic via said cultural changes in demanding a kind of relationship in the idea of "equality" that few men and women can naturally accept even if they could meet our pre-programed standards.

Physically speaking women have to be available for childcare because a woman's body is required to do much of that work. Telling women they can be breadwinner men just forces them to do twice as much work, get overwhelmed as well as lose respect for their husbands.

[MisterWack]

I honestly don’t get it except for the minority of extremist feminists…

Feminism is for equality, equity, and just plain simple decency for women to be treated as human beings equal to a man. It isn’t to go beyond men or to have a victory at the expense of men, it is simply put equality & equity & plain simple decency.

These Andrew Taters and moronic disconnected unhinged people (which includes a minority of men & women), they are no different than the Suffrage haters of the past. There is propaganda back then that suggested that the best voice for women are men, that men are for men & women… The fact is being open minded to Suffrage and allowing women the right to vote allows all humans to be uplifted without none getting left behind.

After getting the ability to vote, women went on to have big roles in society while men kept big roles in society. There is no instance where men lost where women gained, no instance because it is untrue.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

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[MisterWack]

@Maybe_Maybe_not Thank you 👍👍👍

[Smashingdoozy]

I had a guy at work bitch about the price of his bar tab then mutter under his breath "fucking feminists"

🙃 Sorry what.

I don't know if he was blaming feminism for the price of his alcohol or for all the shots he bought the women who weren't interested in him.

[Still-alive]

seems to be the go to scapegoat for dudes whenever they perceive any woman of wronging them in some way i notice. whether it actually has anything to do with feminism or not seems to not matter.

[MLGbreezy]

I mean it mean woman using misleading tactics to get men into doing what they want and then complaining about men making advances non them seems to be feminist culture 101 if you ask me even if that’s not the case a club experience for a woman is much different from that of a man. Woman have far more privilege then they like to let on and that’s just a fact

[Smashingdoozy]

@MLGbreezy he bought a shot for literally every woman in the pub. Did not ask them if they wanted a shot, just paid for it. I was basically his unsolicited wingman

[Still-alive]

@MLGbreezy yeah just remember bruh, no one forced those dudes to give girls said privileges. in order to receive privileges there as to be a giver. and as far as i know no dude is compelled or forced to give them... and ill take it a step further if there really is a woman you run into who demands them (which is really not as frequent as the mra and incel types like to make it sound) in order to even talk to her or something she's probably not someone you wanna be with anyways. Remember a lot of these dudes always have the option to say 'no'.

[Agape93]

Men not getting dates
Lesbianism being a thing
Me too movement
Accountability for bad choices from men
Etc

[Still-alive]

Why women are F***ing them. seriously thats at the heart of it all really. they're just made they can't get that super model girl to **** them and just blame it all on feminism. it just never dawned on them that maybe they're just unf***able bitter losers lol.

[Still-alive]

are NOT ****ing them*

[anon1903]

I got it hon x

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

so many ⭐

[college-student2021]

The most ridiculous was incels blaming feminism for not getting laid.

[Oncewildtwiceburned]

Even in Afghanistan a dad wouldn’t let his daughter marry a loser and a coward so yep they down bad on this one

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

For divorces, children growing up in a single parent homes, children getting bad grades in school, men being virgins, men being single, for the wrong politicians in office, for wars, for bad salaries, for STD's, for car accidents, for violent crimes, for rampant drug use, for alcoholism, for traffic jams etc..

It's super easy to blame ish on an entity or another person than to say "I f**** up" and need to get my act and life together.

[Ladsin2]

Lots there. What do you think is responsible for the rise in divorce rates? In the early 1900s ~5% of women had been through a divorce. This increased to about ~10% up to the 1960s. The feminist movement really took off in the 1960s and divorce rate skyrocketed to 23% then started dropping back down. There seems to be a strong correlation between the rise of feminism and the rise in divorces.
If you don't think it's causal what do you think would explain it?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@Ladsin2: Divorces which I personally think is wrong doesn't happen just because.

Divorce happens because the man is a p. o. s. or the woman is a p. o. s. or both are and can't stand each other anymore.

Women in the U. S. in the 1900's depended on men for everything nor did society offer them equality so they just can't get divorce and leave without being screwed.

Women couldn't even get credit cards til the 80's without permission and approval from their husband or dad.

Feminism has nothing to do how two people decide to handle their own person relationship or marriage.

That's your own responsibility, not an external force using it as an excuse why you can't keep a marriage together.

[Ladsin2]

You think all those women wanted to leave their husbands before, but just couldn't?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@Ladsin2: Yes, a lot them did because they were being abused by the p. o. s. but couldn't leave due to financial reasons.

[Ladsin2]

Interesting. Why do you think that?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@Ladsin2: Look it up. It's documented a lot of women stayed married back then because they couldn't make it on their own.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Plus 4 or 5 kids to care for

[Ladsin2]

I'm not aware of any data to vindicate that belief. So far as I know women's happiness has been deteriorating for the last half century in the same time that divorce rates rose. I'm not sure of any research further back than that. My presumption is actually the opposite of yours. I think women were likely happier/ more fulfilled when they were running their home businesses and raising their children. I don't think men generally mistreated their wives and were just enslaving them for eons before the 1960s.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@Ladsin2: Research says single women are happier today.

[Ladsin2]

Single women? That's an interesting twist. Citation?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@Ladsin2: Look it up.

[Ladsin2]

Every source I found said married persons are significantly happier than their single counterparts. Has been the case for decades. There are some op-eds saying that single women CAN be just as happy as married women, but that's a straw man.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@Ladsin2: I don't know and I don't care. I'm worried about my own life.

[Ladsin2]

Lol ok. Appreciate the discussion.

[DrPepper12]

Incels. It's so funny and ridiculous!! Like dude, ya got no game and your a fuck boi who likes playing video games and jerking off in moms basement! Life is about choices...

[ManInChains]

Thinking theyre actually empowering women when in fact they're making their lives worse and at the expense of men while they're at it. Everyone loses with feminism and feminists blame men for everything.

[anon1903]

A woman's life is more miserable than a man's.

All feminism has done is shed light on it 🧘

[Kingofkings1992]

@anon1903 women are coddled by society

[anon1903]

Your point might have some truth in it if you're talking about white women.

Here in India? Nahhhh

[ManInChains]

A woman's life is only more miserable than a man's because of feminism and her own thinking that it's somehow helping her

[mandyfire98]

Incels blame feminism for everything.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

And not just incels, the more moderate MGTOW as well, when they don't already overlap with incel culture

[mandyfire98]

Yeah I think at this point any of the "manosphere" community has pretty much devolved into an Incel like hivemind so they're all pretty much lumped together. Probably should be a new word that encompasses all of them together since they all think the same way.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

Even assuming "hivemind is complete", manosphere still applies lol

[mandyfire98]

They're about as close to a hivemind as there has ever been lol.

[DrPepper12]

Yeah, without the "mind" part and they just give women "hives"

[mandyfire98]

Well done haha

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

@DrPepper12 seconded!

[Babygirl_S]

I am surprised when Indian guys complain about feminism because Indian women don’t have equal rights yet and things like rape, dowry, abuse etc. are still common. Also most Indian feminists want equality, not superiority to men.

[Breanna_nonbinary]

Republican blame feminism for the decay of western society🤣

[normalice]

Men not getting laid.

[mandyfire98]

Best answer.

[Anonymous]

Well there are legitimate well educated feminists, and then there are amateur girls hacking about feminism online.

The later group is definitely better than incels but have their own wrongful takes that don't center on equality.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

I relate very much to this way of phrasing the issues with not so elaborated opinions here, about feminism or about any topic of militancy for that matter 👍🏼

[Anonymous]

Feminism is destroying society in general and everyone is aware of it. Because of feminism, men and women have become enemies.
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[CB-Raido-Time]

Feminism is of the devil feminism is the deliberate destruction of God's natural order which feminist love to refer to as the Patriarchy.

[CB-Raido-Time]

However the above is not ridiculous, it's the actual truth.

[anon1903]

Sure.

[Unap0logetic_]

The topic of whether bills should be 50/50 or who should be paying them.. That shouldn’t even be a topic of discussion in 2024.

[Dargil]

What are some ridiculous things they actually think and do?

[Unit1]

Men's problems finding a scapegoat for their own consequences.

[Ladsin2]

What do you think is ridiculous that feminists get blamed for?

[anon1903]

This question was actually inspired by a dude here blaming feminists for “double incomes in household” ☠️☠️

[Ladsin2]

Elizabeth Warren actually wrote an interesting book I haven't read yet, but have heard about which seems to explain something similar. It's called "The Two Income Trap."

Who do you think is responsible for the rise of two income households?

[anon1903]

The economy, the rapid industrialization, evolution in itself, global warming, political corruption, inflation, the choice to have kids

[Ladsin2]

Yikes. Ok we have to separate some stuff out here. We've had an economy for all of history. Multiple different types for all of history. Women always were active contributors to this economy and participants in it. What specifically changed in the economy that made them leave their household jobs (ie processing wheat into bread to sell) to work in a manufacturing plant?

Industrialization certainly made women more capable of being able to enter the work force as it reduced the need for physical labor, but the Industrial Revolution took place in the mid-1700s and the femenist revolution really started to gain traction in the mid-1900s and women really started joining the work force in the 1960s or so. If time is linear, and I think it is. The rise of the feminist movement would seem to be the proximal cause, and the industrail revolution a distal cause.

You'll have to explicate on the evolution comment, because obviously we've been evolving for tens of millions of years without women entering the work force.

Warming?

Corruption?

Inflation could make some sense... But then we have a question of the chicken or the egg. Warren's argument is that the dual income trap is that it caused massive inflation.

I presume you mean birth control?

[anon1903]

1. Women didn't have rights in history. Or the choice to go out and work instead of being confined to the kitchen.

Ftr, I've nothing against housewives as a feminist, I just feel it should be a choice.

2. There is this thing called resources stagnation. The earth cannot support infinite number of people in it. People in olden times were happier coz birth rate was high, but so was the death rate. With science and technology, the latter has gone down. It's time we control the birth rate too, but that's offensive to masses lol

3. I was referring to evolution on a psychological level, where people get to live on their own terms. We haven't reached there yet, but we'd soon.

Basically the concept of free will and happiness.

4. Politicians screw up the prices, the production, distribution of money etc. In my country, majority of ministers are illiterate. That's a clear giveaway

Are you playing dumb on purpose?

[anon1903]

Incomes aren't rising but the prices are

[anon1903]

Global warming, believe it or not, affects all parts of human life. We're on our way towards the path of self-destruction

[Ladsin2]

1) I don't see the relevance. You don't need rights to engage in the economy. All white men didn't have the right to vote until the Fourteenth amendment in late 19th century. Nearly a full century after our founding. Surely you wouldn't argue that meant all those men weren't engaged in the economy. Women almost always, as far as I know, have been large contributors to the economy through their home businesses and making most of the purchasing decisions for the home. The question is about a causal relationship between the economy and women entering the workforce.
2) We have below replacement rates of births in every wealthy nation on the planet (Exception: Israel). High population isn't a problem that makes sense. Otherwise why is every western country importing millions and millions of migrants to serve as a cheap labor base?
3.) It sounds like you're stating that women have always wanted to be in the workforce, is that the case you're making? I see no evidence of that. Women didn't want suffrage when it was offered. Women asked if they were to start voting would the men start wearing dresses essentially mocking the idea of men performing women's roles and vice versa. Overtime it became more popular among women. Today though the majority of women (particularly mother's) prefer to remain in the home with their children and work electively. That's despite social desirability bias. It's why women work less hours than men. So I don't see that as sufficient.
4) Politicians don't set prices or do anything with production, or distribute money... Do you live in Russia?

Let's just remember what the conversation is. The question was "what do you think is ridiculous that feminists get blamed for"? You're response was that the notion that "feminism is the cause for dual incomes in homes" is absurd. I asked you what then you thought was the cause of the dual income trap (Elizabeth Warren) and then I've been trying to pick your brain about that.

[Ladsin2]

What do you think the economy is?

[Ladsin2]

@DrPepper12
This seems like one you'd disagree with me on. Any thoughts?

[DrPepper12]

Men not getting dates
Lesbianism
Incels
Cucks
Me too movement
Accountability for bad choices from men

[Ladsin2]

@DrPepper12 I meant more on this particular thread. As I understand it you were a history teacher, did anything I say above not jive?

[DrPepper12]

No. @Ladsin2. Everything you said is 💯 accurate

[Ladsin2]

@DrPepper12 Lol. I appreciate the input.

[Anonymous]

Men acting like women scared to act incase something bad comes back at them.

[Anonymous]

There is at least some truth in every criticism of feminism I've ever heard, and often much more than a little.

[abc3643]

Immature MGTOWs and InCels not getting laid.

[Anonymous]

One of the two reasons for the moral collapse of society is feminism and the other is the rainbow

[Grond21]

It entirely depends on the kind of feminism