Stocks are failling because of Trump is that normal or is that a worrying things?
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but on média they keep on talking about a black Monday so i m left confused
France fall around 6
germany 9
america around 3
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Trending & News Stocks are failling because of Trump is that normal or is that a worrying things?
I know nothing of them 🤡
but on média they keep on talking about a black Monday so i m left confused
France fall around 6
germany 9
america around 3
I voted A.
Just a FYI I have never wanted a president to fail our country just because I voted for the opposing party. If you are a democrat that hates Trump (and I can’t walk 10 feet without running into one where I live) then fine. I may disagree with you, but that’s your opinion and your right.
But wishing for the economy to sour because it will turn the majority public opinion against Trump is like hoping your entire apartment building burns down just because you hate the landlord who lives next door. It’s not worth wishing Trump’s economic plan will send the USA into long term chaos to satisfy your pre-existing hatred of him.
Anyway investors are scared right now and for good reason. If Trump doesn’t roll back these tariffs sooner or later it’s going to be extremely bad for economy and inflation.
The economy cuts through everything. If Trump screws this all up then all the good things he’s done (the border, getting fraud/waste, eradicating DEI / ESG, etc) will all be overshadowed. Even worse radical leftists like Bernie Sanders and AOC are waiting to pounce not just on Trump but capitalism as we know it. This will open the door to a neo-communist future administration which would be beyond horrifying.
So anyway I’m hoping to good Trump is doing this all for posturing and he quickly negotiates with other countries to roll these inexplicably insane worldwide tariffs back. Hoping to God there is a method behind the madness. Because if there isn’t and we go into a recession this will be the first time I will seriously consider giving up all support for Trump (doesn’t mean I’m going democrat).
Because unlike Covid this is completely self inflicted damage. So please God let it be all show and not permanent.
@Arwen06 your response above is exactly why I am scared. You are NOT the “educated” one in this debate. I know you have been brainwashed into that condescension. However I live in state (Colorado) that has state that has been destroyed by far leftist ideologies when it was once a swing state. We are talking skyrocketing crime, fentanyl, homelessness, far leftist ideologies being pushed in public schools, “in your face” leftist activism, urban decay, social malaise, skyrocketing taxes, etc.
Colorado is a perfect case study of what the “Bernie supporters” would do to the country as a whole.
@Arwen06 just one question: do you even pay your rent and utilities? Seriously just curious.
Your poll has 2 answers to choose from but they both say the same. So really it's not useful if I have a different opinion.
Stocks are going to crash all over the world, that's inevitable within now and 2030. Why?
A couple of decades ago the amount of money there was around in the world was the same as the value of all the gold we had. Money was attached to the gold standard.
When they detached this a couple of decades ago money wasn't attached to anything anymore and this lead to massive amounts of money being printed in top of the existing money we already had. This caused money to rapidly decline in value because the more money there is to pass around, the lower it's value will be.
Things that are rare are always worth more then things we got plenty of.
Right now there is so much money being printed in all those decades that the financial system is on a verge of collapsing completely! Banks where allowed to lend out money which they didn't actually owned themselves during that time but instead just printed it out everytime they loaned out money. This resulted in depths that cannot ever be payed back.
A simple example... I have 1 candybar in my possession, that's the only candybar that is existing in the world.
I'm deciding to loan it out to you but in return I want 1,5 of the same candybar back from you overtime. The fact of the mather is that cannot every pay me back that 1,5 candybars because there is only 1. So that means now that you are in a depth you cannot ever pay me back
It depends on how you view economics. Me personally, I’m also incredibly ignorant to what it means and currently have no stock shares. I’m honestly just waiting for the housing market to crash so I can get a cheap house like I missed out on in high school when the housing market recession was at its worst. I’ve been through 4 “once in a lifetime” recessions, at this point I’m starting to think they’re just normal.
The last I can remember was the one in 2008 in France they were no others one if not to my knowledge.
That would be great if house price would go down for sure but stye keep being higher and higher all the time just like the price of gold, I bought a bracelet nearly 10 years ago and I can't even imagine how expensive it would have been if I waited for buying it today
10-20% trim isn't uncommon but at some point an avalanche effect happens and shares are less worth than real assets of companies who offer them.
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if you go back and look at the historical markets there are always ups and downs.
In Sept 2015 the market was at 21,837.78, then it rose to 33,654.26 in Jan 2018, then in March 202o it fell to 27,089.61. In Dec 2021 it rose to 41,571. In Sept 2022 it fell to 30,879.92. In Nov 2024 it rose to 45,404.67, now it sits at 37,645.59, well above the other lows. 10,566 points above the low of 2015.
So the world was fine in 2015, it is still ok today.
Countries have been caving in to the tariff demands, I read that Canada has backed off, but I need to do some more research on that.
The US is the breadbasket to the world, we have the grain and raw materials that other countries need to survive. Take 200 to 300 billion dollars a year out of Chinas economy, our food imports and they will have a hard time making that up.
Some of the downturn is because of the tariff uncertainty, but as other countries falter and remove their tariffs others will have to follow or get left behind, countries are announcing that they will be building plants here so things will get better. Change doesn't happen overnight, but the market will recover, the economy will start to flourish, the sun will still rise and set every day, oil has gone down $10/barrel, and even the price of eggs has dropped. You are still here, so try turning off the tv if you watch it, I stopped watching the news during Covid and my life was actually better, no gloom and doom pounded into your head day after day, now it is getting hard to figure who is even giving you the straight story without slanting it to reflect someone's views.
Do some research without the political rhetoric, that will help you figure things out.
You see posts here stating that the President is the best thing that has happened, and posts that we will all die because he is the President. The truth is always somewhere in the middle.
This will be an interesting time in history, but like everything it takes time.
It wasn't a surprise that the market reacted this way. Things like that make investors nervous.
There is no gray area any more it is love or hate.
Depending on the station and their affiliates news can be slanted one way or another. Many years ago, it was just the news as it happened. Politics did not enter into it at all.
It made life better.
Figuring out the stock market can be confusing and daunting, and i simply so not have it in me to sit there and follow it and try to figure it out.
Not yet. Try to remember during the credit crisis of 08 the market fell by as much in 4 days. And that before it bottomed it had fell 50%. And the rebound today (despite the fact that it was all on rumors) shows you the confidence that is still in the market. What you're seeing right now is panic, nothing more. The market was overdue for a correction so while I'm not excited by the way this came about. It was inevitable. That doesn't mean however we shouldn't be concerned about the catalyst of all of this. We should! Because it could give us a slowdown for the foreseeable future. Keep in mind I said COULD, not WOULD.
Now Trump is talking about a 50 to 100% tariff on China. So expected another drop tomorrow. The "experts" are expecting a bottom of 4200 for the S&P ecentually. That would put us back at the level we were at 2 years ago. But bear in mind the experts are right only about 30% of the time.
My advice is, if you didn't sell a couple weeks ago (I did just not enough 🫤) then hold tight now. The market will rebound eventually. And if a doomsday scenario happens (which it most likely won't). Then it isn't going to matter matter where your money is, so to speak.
The good news, when the garbage ends there should be a lot of money making opportunities by oversold stocks. In my opinion there are a few already. But proceed slowly.
This is crazy, I did not know it fell so much in 08, sound scary.
Yes I saw the rebound, I'm worried for tomorrow though as Trump said the war will continue, I do not understand why he's doing this, I hope he's not gonna do this for too long.
I'm rather confused what he want.
I do not have any stock so I'm protected but it sucj for others; I mainly was worried about something like 08 happening again it was not fun time.
This is good
Stocks falling, though now it is sort of recovering… The main concern is tariffs, since the world economy is on the line which will certainly fall on small businesses & consumers.
Do I need to explain that millionaires have millions to lose and will remain afloat, though if you are a small business owner who increases their prices for the short term then you lose consumers you’re bankrupt overnight which will lose thousands if not millions of jobs owned by average Americans not the wealthiest corporations.
Do I also need to explain that a tariff is a tax imposed by a government on imported goods… That tax is levied on goods crossing borders between nations, or imported from a particular country overseas. Importers don’t like to be taxed which cause a net loss so, they’ll put a tax onto the corporation then that corporation puts a tax in the form of inflation or shrinkflation onto the consumer buying the good. Which makes consumers like you and me unhappy for good reason.
Do I also need to explain that this President’s Administration wants to give massive tax cuts to America’s wealthiest most powerful gentlemen which comes at the cost of groceries, electronics, and increased taxes to pay the government… Very sad. If it were a Democrat we would be unified against them, because it is a Republican certain eyes and ears don’t care to pay attention.
Don’t let the ‘straw-man argument’ settle in that if you are criticizing the Administration that means you are against ALL tariffs when in reality it isn’t radical to think jumping from $78 billion to $718 billion of total tariffs is extremely a hard pill to swallow and want a compromise at $100 billion total. This already shook up countries’ economies which I highly doubt they’ll want to work with USA in the future thanks to this bullsh*t.
@alice55 Agreed. Just wished more people spoke out, if every Republican magically switched on him we could get rid of him and take our country on a good path of prosperity. We had free trade, a semi-stable economy, and a decent thing going here for not only ourselves but the nations of the world… Now all that is in jeopardy with reciprocal tariffs, threats, world leaders attacking Trump verbally in speeches / press conferences, etc. This is unhinged.
It's not dangerous but it's a leading indicator of the economy. The markets have been in a steady decline since January based on the threat of tariffs and the affect on business. The last 3 days of decline can be partially reversed if Trump caves on tariffs but if he digs in and this lasts another week or two the recovery will take a lot longer because stocks are going to continue to decline. The markets bottom will continue going lower until this is settled and until the tariffs are settled there will be high volatility. Until Trump leaves office businesses can't fully plan ahead and uncertainty will continue because his unpredictability could either lead to less tariffs or higher tariffs without any warning so market volatility will continue and retail investors will be cautious before putting money back in the market. Stocks take the elevator down and the stairs up and recovery will be slow
Not really. It will go up again, sooner or later - rich people aren't going to keep their millions under their pillow (gold is actually down since this tariff nonsense), and it's not like share prices actually have any basis in reality to begin with (for example, until recent events, Tesla's share price indicated the company was worth more than all of the next 35 biggest auto makers combined, which is obviously ridiculous).
Dont worry... no stocks are going to fall on your head lol Think of stocks as a predictor of what the future of the economy is. Investors buy stocks when they think the future is good and sell when they think the future is bad. It is said the stock market never lies... so with this in mind what the stock market is saying is that the future for the global and USA economy is not looking good.
There are a lot of good things about the economy. Mortgage rates are going down and so is inflation. The March job numbers were good and the price of gas has gone down. The recent drop in the stock market is due to uncertainty. It will rebound once it gets all figured out
As for me I play in the stock market & when stocks fall they also go on sale & I’m ready to revisit some of my old investments & buy, buy, buy & sit on them.
The stock market will rebound just like the Covid crash & I have been waiting for this. When shares crash I buy low & sit on them. When the mark rebounds sell.
the stock market has it's ups and downs. that is just what the stock market does. it would have done so, regardless of president, whenever. it happens all of the time.
Yes in my country they love to overreact for nothing
Caution is warranted for any interaction with Trump's hair brained scams
The American stock market was overinflated to begin with. Plus, most people treat stocks like a casino anyways.
The government doesn't like the normal boom and bust nature of the stock market because they think it is indictive of the economy in the whole. However, those booms and busts are part of a healthy market. When they try and meddle in the market; you end up with deeper crashes and that scares the markets and typically causes stalls in the economy.
The market went wrong with the allowance of blind short selling. This is where I can borrow your stock without your knowledge sell it off in the hopes it causes panic selling by the other investors and then buying back the stock at a lower price and then returning it back to you.
Yes almost every country stocks crashed including my country as well. Billions of dollars investment lost.
Almost 8600 points today.
Short term dangerous, long term prosperous. It's like surgery. You have to cut open the body to fix what's inside.
I see. Well, in that sense you are right, but it will never fall endlessly unless the whole economy crashes and never recovers. The chances of that having are so low that they're not really worth considering. Right now, it's a game of chicken where Trump is raising all of these tariffs to match other countries, to force them to the negotiating table for better deals. So far it's working and over 50 countries have begged him to remove the tariffs in exchange for them removing their own, some of which have been levied against the United States for decades. We'll see if this works long term, but so far it's looking good.
Couldn't he just ask for negotiation directly? Because by raising tariff others countries just want to raise tariffs? That's really weird ways to ask for negotiation.
It feel like he's blackmailing the entire world of economic recession that's not a good look for the richest country of the worlds.
He could, but why would they accept that request? After all, many of them have been in a very favorable trade relationship with us where it's a net benefit for them only. And so, him making this decision is forcing them to that negotiation table, where they come willing to make a much better arrangement. And so far it's working, with over 50 countries offering to negotiate a much better trade relationship.
As for our reputation, it is only as strong as our willingness to defend it. If we let other countries walk over us with bad trade deals, it shows that our reputation doesn't matter because we can be mistreated and won't do anything to protect ourselves.
Becuase domocracy? He have no use to do this shit with european even Putin is listening to him without him having to do his circus..
This is ridiculous America is the richest country of the world he can't complain about trade being not good enough.
In my opinion we should have cut off American and go back to trade with Russia... This whole tariff stuff is ridiculous. Like a child throwing a tantrum while he already have all the toys he could think of
No it's not because we sell luxury stuff mainly so it's not gonna affect us, people are still gonna buy our product no matter what.
I think it's just his attitude is unacceptable that's all, he's the richest most powerful country of the worlds and he act like we're scamming him? This is ridiculous he called us thief also (see how he treated he best allies Denmark and Ireland).
He also decided out of the blue to abandon Ukraine then comeback when they lost Koursk.
He's acting like a petty child.
Also told us we would have to fight Russian alone Russian who would have never attacked Europe if they were no American base on... So US start a war and then we have to pay for it, same in Irak bomb the country, Afghanistan same America are the one who trained the talibans, they're doing war everywhere and it's Europe that is forced to take all immigrant.
This is ridiculous and we stayed allies though all this shit and yet we're thief who America need to enforce shit taxe on?
Excuse me but America and Trump are a whole circus.
If you don't mind me asking, which country are you from?
I don't think anyone is scamming us as much as taking advantage of us. Although China is definitely doing scamming. It's more that America has been taking advantage of.
Russia attacked because Europe was breaking their promises and adding countries to NATO that they had sworn they would not do. However, I'd side with the EU over Russia for sure.
France
You can't take advantage of the richest country of the worlds that's ridiculous, that's like the richest kids complaining about not having enough cheese while having 10 time the amont of cheese of the others...
In France richest people pay more for their meals at school and poor people pay nothing it's normal.
No scam into it when you're rich you don't need as much help as others.
Nope Russia attacked cause America is putting their army base everywhere in Europe and were trying to put their base in Kiev without authorization, EU have nothing to do with it they're just puppet.
If American base were not in Europe Russia wouldn't have attacked Ukraine.
This is a proxy war of USA - Russia like always, America are using Ukrainian and European to fight their war for them.
In my mind we should kick the USA out of Europe, France should leave Nato as we don't need it and all would be fine for us.
France is a lovely country. Truly
You absolutely can take advantage of them if they let you. And we are no longer letting them do that.
I've never heard that Russia attacked Ukraine because the US was trying to put a military base there. That is news to me, to be honest. But I agree with you that French should leave NATO because it is a relic that made sense in the 1940s, but no longer.
Yes and no. My husband just bought a whole heap of stock at very low prices. I'm sure this is what it is all about.
When you invest its long term. Like during covid the uber wealthy doubled their wealth
That's what's happening now. Like when eventually bitcoin crashes its because someone like Elon has sold all their shares and bought more much cheaper as it rises again
I know that when this turns around and the stocks go through the roof, this will no longer be a topic because people won't want to talk about it.
I’m waiting and seeing if Trump has some master plan.
I had 3 buy limits get triggered today. It's dangerous for someone, just not me.
Today was about 10%. I've got another 10% scheduled so far. Not exactly sure where the bottom will be, so I'll be conservative for the time being.
Liar. Stocks are not falling because of Trump and in any event they are still at a level higher than any other time in history. The stock market rises and falls all the time, but in the long run it always rises. A much worse fall of the stock market occurred under Obama, many people lost their entire savings and retirement, and their houses, and never recovered. No one complained about that.
Very dangerous. Your two poll options say the same thing.
See:Oct.29,1929 or Black Monday, when the stock market crashed.
Yes, it’s done it. What he’s done is made him bankrupt six times. Tariffs are what sent the world into the great depression.
It doesn't mean shit in actuality. All it is just people panicking
Nothing about the stock market is dangerous. The market was overdue for a correction, and Trump's tariffs gave it the impetus to happen.
Stocks were rebounding some today. Is that bad?
Markets rise and fall. It’s not dangerous
Ya same on the tv in the USA. Really just means no other big news is happening right now so they have to “sell soap” (make content for advertisers)
Only if it's stocks you happen to own. And then only if you want to sell them.
Yes and we can blame the Dutch for inventing them.
They did.
Yes it’s dangerous news
Thst happening because of his tariffs
The "eat the rich" people are getting their wish and they are complaining instead lol.
@Arwen06 the majority of people who are invested in the market are of the boomer generation. Millennials and Gen Z, the generations that the boomers and Gen X (mostly boomers) should have been paving the way for decided to screw them over instead with braindead economic policies.
Millennials and Gen Z are the least affected by this so most of their attitude is "screw you, i want my country back and if there's pain in the process so be it."
It’s dangerous, can’t sleep well 🤣
Only to the rich.
"Heads I'm right, tails your wrong"
Yes, very dangerous
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