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Is the USA just a bigger England?

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  • Keyboardkat
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    Well, for one thing, they call England "Merrie old England." Right now, the US isn't so merry!
    But more seriously, there's one major cultural difference I can think of. And I'll illustrate it with a story someone told me after a trip to England. They visited a castle, and happened to meet the gardener/greenskeeper, and asked, "How did you get such a smooth, uniform, perfect green lawn?" The man replied, "Well, you know, you just seed it, roll it and water it for about 300 years." He was matter-of-fact about it.
    The good old USA is not 300 years old! England is a lot older than 300 years. And they feel it. They feel, well, more ESTABLISHED, I guess, than we do. Their traditions are, or at least were until recently, rock-solid. They aren't really a "melting pot" as we are. The expression "Old School" over there REALLY MEANS "old school." And they have an established church, and the King is also the head of the Church. There were a lot of heads that rolled over that one, back in the days of Henry XIII. We in the USA don't go back that far, and we're more of a mixture.

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    • goaded
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      The difference between an Englishman and an American is that the Englishman thinks 100 miles is a long way and the American thinks 100 years is a long time.

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    • Keyboardkat
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      @goaded Excellent! Very well put! Did you compose that?

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    • goaded
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      Oh, no, I got it from Outlander, where it was probably also a quote. It strikes me as both amusing and true.

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    • goaded
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      Earle Hitchner originated it, afaics.

      " "The difference between America and England is that Americans think 100 years is a long time, while the English think 100 miles is a long way." --Earle Hitchner"
      https://rogermerritt.name/england.html

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  • loveslongnails
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    Pretty much... yes. The USA was founded because the elites on this side of the pond wanted to expand their wealth with no restrictions or payments to the Crown, in other words, the elites on the OTHER side of the pond. Read the Proclamation of 1763. They wanted the "freedom" to oppress, enslave and conquer as they chose, as well.

    Virtually EVERYTHING you've been taught in American schools and in American textbooks about the forming of the USA, is just plain wrong. Just sayin'.

    "Never let the truth get in the way of a good story" ... a statement largely attributed to Mark Twain, but even that is uncertain. LOL

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  • purplepoppy
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    Despite being independent of England they kept not only the language but also place names based on English towns, they even have a New England. Given the diversity of immigrants, America should have evolved it's own unique language by now. All this points to a country not wanting to break free.

    Americans like to boast about the achievements of their country, but they were all down to a relatively tiny part of their population. Given the vast scale, population size, and natural resources they should have achieved far more. America isn't England, it's an overgrown English council estate.

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    • Julie4
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      I can see you're angry with the Americans 😂

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    • purplepoppy
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      Nah, just want to rattle the cage.

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    • Joshydavid25
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      So basically you're saying we're just a far more successful England.. 😏..

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  • Gwendoline
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    Some say the American War of independence was the 2nd English civil war. Both were fought over taxes and the power of the monarch.

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    • purplepoppy
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      It was. The UK was heavily divided on the issue at the time and that can be seen in public letters to newspapers. Many British people would have had American relatives being killed by British troops. People were far more concerned about France invading from across the Channel.

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    • Julie4
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      @purplepoppy

      The British have always exaggerated the French threat

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    • Gwendoline
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      @purplepoppy think a lot of roundheads after the restoration of the monarchy fled to the Americas and theh were mostly Presbyterians, puritans, Methodists, Baptists etc

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    • purplepoppy
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      After the English civil war it became a grim place where most fun things were banned for religious reasons, that's why the monarchy was restored. England was also becoming more tolerant which angered some people, that's the real reason they left for America, it was for the freedom to hate not the freedom to worship. In essence it was to be woke free.

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  • Joshydavid25
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    No, the language and even some of the ways the system works may be the same or similar, but otherwise they are two completely different countries and cultures.. For example the U. S is far less cynical than England.. Super laxed gun laws, the U. S is far more "religious".. And I heard that even the Democratic party of the U. S would be considered to the right in the U. K..

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    • Julie4
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      Children can rebel, they still have their parents' genes. Even your geopolitics are similar to England's.

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    • Joshydavid25
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      Makes sense, they took the things they thought were good about England and new some of their own rules.. So naturally there would be a lot of similarities.. But the differences are noticeable..

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  • OneViewpoint
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    The US is heavily and inextricably tied to British language, government structures, legal systems, religion, economics, and history. But we took a much darker path that led to genocide of the native peoples, slavery, sick twisted Protestant religions of hate, and a a malignant extremist form of Capitalism that now lives in large part off wars for profit and owns the government that was supposed to be "of the people, by the people, for the people".

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    • purplepoppy
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      Ironically a lot of people who left from the British Isles did so because they were being abused and exploited by extreme capitalism of the day. An example is starving irish workers being used to build so called famine roads for a megre wage. Todays Americans are taught socialism is bad mostly to keep them demanding a better deal.

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  • Filthy_Immigrant
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    I never been to England but probably. a friend I had in this site a while back once told me that if I ever visit Europe to avoid the UK because its the "United States Of Europe"

    or maybe not because we Americans often detect a threat before it happens. unlike people in England who are getting bombarded with riots and terrorist attacks at the moment yet they are pretending its not happening. just to convince themselves they aren't "racist"

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  • Zack-Bann
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    USA is basically the son that left home picked a fight with his dad and swore he would never be like him only to turn around and grow up to be a spitting image

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    • Julie4
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      Yes lol

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  • onedarkcloud
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    I can still say fuck America !!! You can't say fuck England You will be thrown in jail they suspended freedom of speech That was removed a year or two ago along with a few more human rights. Everything is given to illegals living there... Citizen be dammed...

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    • goaded
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      No, that's not at all true.

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    • molonski2
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      Completely incorrect.

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  • AviatorTom
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    Definitely bigger than England, but the US is a mixture of people from just about every country in the world. England's population is not thst diverse.

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    • Julie4
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      the United States was born of the British colonies, and its culture, language and institutions (such as the common law legal system) are largely inherited from them

      the United States is a sort of extension of the Anglo-Saxon world, with the original British values (individualism, capitalism, liberal democracy).

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    • AviatorTom
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      @julie4 You are correct, but the US systems have evolved over the past 250 years. For example, US judges wear robes, like their Brutish counterparts, but not wings.

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    • Julie4
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      Admit it's anecdotal lol

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    • Gwendoline
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      Think the us justice and government system is more based on France and roman empire than Britain. Like legal prescients aren't a thing in the uk

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    • Julie4
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      @Gwendoline

      The American legal system is mainly inherited from English common law, developed in England from the 12th century onwards. This system is based on jurisprudence (stare decisis), in which the decisions of higher courts serve as binding precedents for lower courts. This tradition was widely adopted by American states after independence.

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  • hahahmm
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    Before investing the energy in giving a serious answer I would want to know what you know of both countries that makes you think this.

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    • Julie4
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      as I wrote in other comments

      " the United States was born of the British colonies, and its culture, language and institutions (such as the common law legal system) are largely inherited from them

      the United States is a sort of extension of the Anglo-Saxon world, with the original British values (individualism, capitalism, liberal democracy). "

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    • Julie4
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      Even geopolitically your way of acting is very similar, maritime and commercial power par excellence, seeking to maintain the balance of power, to ensure access to various world markets.

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    • hahahmm
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      I don't really see "individualism, capitalism, liberal democracy" as unique to anglo-saxon culture. Democracy, capitalism and individualism existed eons before this. But the fact 4k years ago you had complete say over what happened in your home just wasn't called "individualism" at the time. The idea of buying and selling stuff existed for eons too. Even tho, sure, in some cultures they didn't buy and sell but they traded or bought political influence through a form of diplomacy.

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    • Julie4
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      It's not a question that it didn't exist before, but it didn't exist at the same level, and then there's the rest.

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  • MySunflowerSophia
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    Look up the word 'Monarchy' and then look up the word 'Democracy'

    That might help answer your question.

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    • Julie4
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      Monarchy does not prevent democracy.

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    • MySunflowerSophia
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      The point is they're not the same thing.

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  • katiesmuff
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    We certainly are much the same, especially now that we have a KING instead of a president.

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  • Agape93
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    Sure, like how France is just a less capable America. Which is sad because we rarely get shit right

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    • Julie4
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      France and the USA (not America, which is a continent) have virtually nothing in common culturally, etc.

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    • Agape93
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      Kinda like us and England. Different social cultures, different laws, different types of English etc.

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    • Julie4
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      the United States was born of the British colonies, and its culture, language and institutions (such as the common law legal system) are largely inherited from them

      the United States is a sort of extension of the Anglo-Saxon world, with the original British values (individualism, capitalism, liberal democracy).

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    • Agape93
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      So what? Parts of America were born of the French colonies too

      And again, we have different forms of English, different laws, and different social cultures.

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    • Julie4
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      No, because the French presence was much smaller than that of the English. The French presence in America is felt in Quebec and perhaps a little in Louisiana in the U. S., but it is extremely small.

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    • Agape93
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      Thank you for proving my point

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    • Julie4
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      It doesn't really prove your point. The British influence on the US is absolutely enormous. Nothing to do with French influence, which is almost non-existent.

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    • Agape93
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      But my point is, we have French influence from French colonies, which you acknowledged existed, which proves my point.

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    • Julie4
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      Okay, but it's insignificant, so I don't understand the real point of mentioning it.

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    • Agape93
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      Because i can

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  • RavVid
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    I think it is arguable.

    After all the English had a revolution so the Americans went and had one too. Copy cats.

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  • ProbablyClueless
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    Based on everything I've seen and been told, that's not far off. Apparently the US is like plus-sized England with a high self esteem

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  • molonski2
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    Larger in size , population.

    Vastly larger in EGO and self importance.

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  • Paige90
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    The US is a LOT larger than England (about six times).

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    • DryGermanGuy m
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      More than 35 times larger, actually…

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    • Paige90
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      @DryGermanGuy population not land size

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  • KostasKouvalis
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    Not at all. There are some similarities of course, but there are more differences

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    • Julie4
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      I'm not convinced

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    • KostasKouvalis
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      The UK is MORE woke and has far less freedom. No gun culture. They like football we like tackle ball.

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    • KostasKouvalis
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      Here Mexican is the most popular foreign food. There it's Indian

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    • Julie4
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      It's true, and it's normal, but as I wrote in other comments

      " the United States was born of the British colonies, and its culture, language and institutions (such as the common law legal system) are largely inherited from them

      the United States is a sort of extension of the Anglo-Saxon world, with the original British values (individualism, capitalism, liberal democracy). "

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    • Julie4
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      Even geopolitically your way of acting is very similar, maritime and commercial power par excellence, seeking to maintain the balance of power, to ensure access to various world markets.

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  • andreasderjuengere
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    If anything, then it's a SMALLER ''England''.

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  • beefcakebradybatson
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    With bigger guts and more teeth, save West Virginia, Tennesee and some other REPIGLIKSWINE states !!!

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  • RyanEC
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    I think we are very culturally distant from one another despite our similarities.

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      It's true, and it's normal, but as I wrote in two other comments

      " the United States was born of the British colonies, and its culture, language and institutions (such as the common law legal system) are largely inherited from them

      the United States is a sort of extension of the Anglo-Saxon world, with the original British values (individualism, capitalism, liberal democracy). "

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    • Julie4
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      Even geopolitically your way of acting is very similar, maritime and commercial power par excellence, seeking to maintain the balance of power, to ensure access to various world markets.

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    • RyanEC
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      I think the Anglo sphere countries (UK, USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand) have a lot in common and share institutions that were originally British.

      But I think the USA is a little more outside the anglosphere because we left the empire longer ago and in conflict rather than peacefully in the 1900s.

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    • Julie4
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      The daughter can always rebel, she always carries the genes of her parents.

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    • RyanEC
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      True.

      I think most Americans don’t think about the cultural connections with England as much as Canadians, Australians and New Zealanders.

      But it’s clearly still there.

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  • Alex-Snow
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    Good one maybe the USA can be a new State for England or a new province for Canada!!!

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  • DrPepper12
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    As in aging empire following inevitable pattern? ABSO-FUCKING-LUTELY but our food is better.

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    Nah, if anything Britain is just a smaller USA now.

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  • Lottydotty
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    Size doesn't matter both kinda suck as people so.

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  • Sal_Monella
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    It combines the UK, Ireland, New Zealand and Australia.

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    USA is occupied colony of Europeans especially English, French, German, Italians, Spanish people. Red indians are native people there.

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    No it's not, English people have more sophisticated accent, they are very polite, and kind of uptight.

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  • Panthero80
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    Of course not. We have distinct cultures and dialects of the English language.

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  • Bklynbadboy12
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    We are the same that why I laugh when that talk smack about us 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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  • 4ngriffKitty36
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    Nah, the USA is just USA. Language does not bring the habits and the culture.

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    Kind of. I mean, we are closely related. Most of America's early population English. By 1700, 80% of Americans were either English or Welch.

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    since when did england have deserts

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  • 4ngelic
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    no completely different cultures

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  • NicholasRedone
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    @julie4 you mean everything?

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  • exitseven
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    No, Americans don't like bangers and mash.

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      @exitseven I know several people who like sausage and mashed potatoes. 🙄

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      @AviatorTom Actually it is not bad.

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      @exitseven It's one of the 8 things my don't-call-me-a-chef mother could cook. Growing up, we had sausage and mashed potatoes every few weeks. It was actually one of the best things she cooked. 😎

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    • exitseven
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      @AviatorTom cool.

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    I see what you're trying to do here

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    I don’t think so what do you think?

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  • seeyounexttuesday
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    It is not. Hope this helps.

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  • WhiteThought
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    in what way?

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    Yes it is

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    Pfft.

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  • jahaims
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    Nah.

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  • BDRick
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    …a better England

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    I will say yes

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  • EmmiL
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    Basically

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