Are you picking your side after telling us both of these guys are awesome for six months, or just pretending you never liked Elon anyway?

[WhiteSteve]

Presented without comment…

Buckle up and take your motion sickness pills…the spin on this one will be unreal 😵‍💫

[MisterWack]

Elon Musk is making it clear he only wanted money and influence since he admitted to knowing Trump was in The Epstein Files (there is public record)

Donald J Trump is apparently saying that not only does he want to end govt contracts with Elon and subsides, he also claimed to be shocked Joe Biden didn’t do that hinting he would’ve liked it very much. Of course admitting he didn’t actually care for Elon Musk, just the power and influence you get by having the richest man in the world on your side.

Elon Musk and Donald Trump both lost the chicken fight by giving away the game we knew for months, alongside the fact that both are horribly narcissistic / self centered so, this breakup was inevitable. Those saying you couldn’t predict this would be the outcome clearly never saw Michael Cohen, Mike Pence, and others falling out with Mr. Trump after all the praise. Pathetic excuse for leadership and “government efficiency”.

Grab the popcorn and chew away, also look at the money trail of power particularly all the money Elon Musk shoveled into Donald Trump’s Campaign. President Trump still holding the keys to the ‘Tessler’ Elon sold him where “everything’s computer” also all the Campaign Rallies particularly Madison Square Garden. All this was performance art for Right Wing Followers to be cuckold which worked big time for the corporate elites.

[exitseven]

I thought that Trump and Elon was a strange combination from the start. Trump has been against mandating electric vehicles for a long time. He had publicly said he would reverse the EV mandate that Biden (or the autopen) implemented.
It seemed strange that the owner of the largest EV maker would support Trump but I have thought for a while that maybe Elon figured out that the EV was a dead end and would never really be a feasible mainstream vehicle for Americans and was more interested in Space X and going to Mars.
I also thought that maybe Elon saw President Trump as a mentor or father figure. He was raised by his mother and maybe did not have a strong male role model in his life.
I hope these two guys find a way to get past this.

[WhiteSteve]

I don’t know how you get past “You’re on the Epstein list.” I guess he could TRY to backpedal and say “…. but not for anything bad”, but we all know what the implication is by him calling that “a really big bomb”, no matter how he may try to walk it back later.

I feel like the inevitable implosion of MAGA is going to be due to this exact thing, Trump promised himself to too many conflicting groups who have conflicting goals and ideals. Evangelical Christians and Libertarians and tech bros and the working class Joes and the wealthy corporate executives/Wall Street types aren’t about the same things. They just have bigotry and/or greed in common. But when all of the “on Day One” economic promises don’t come true six months, a year, two years in, and “b-b-b-but Biden did it!” starts to wear thin, some of those people are going to start asking the correct questions, and start jumping ship. Or even without that, we can already see some raised eyebrows when things done to appease one MAGA faction are against the direct interests of another. “Wait, you cut MY job?” “You cut MY benefits?”

People are stubborn, and Mark Twain said it best: “It’s easier to fool a man than to convince a man that he’s been fooled.” So it may be a while before folks come around, or maybe some never will. But this is all a big film-flam that can’t last forever. Americans are stupid, by and large, but I’d like to think there’s a floor to it.

[WhiteSteve]

*flim-flam

[exitseven]

President Trump has said all along that he is working for America and all Americans. His tax cuts, employment policies and immigration actions have already shown that. It is the core of what he ran on. Secure border, lower prices, energy independence and lower taxes and a pro business environment. Yes there are conflicting groups but like I said about Tesla, he was up front on his stand on EVs from the start. He said people will have a choice to buy whatever kind of vehicle that they want. With Trump it is pretty much what you see is what you get. The Tech guys are going along because he is the president and maybe he can help them but he never promised them a thing. If there is a policy that produced jobs and makes money for the tech sector he will support it but if it is a policy that screws the public in favor of Google or microsoft , forget it.

[Twalli]

Except the tax cuts aren't nationwide and prices aren't lower.

[exitseven]

@Twalli The price of gas has been going down since the election, I have seen meat prices go down and the price of eggs are half what it was in January. They certainly are not going up every single week like they did when Biden was president. Prices always go up really fast but go down really slow.

[WhiteSteve]

I think your fatal flaw is that you believe Donald Trump when he talks and you believe his stated motives are what he says they are, with nothing else behind the scenes. Being able to see through this guy lying is critical. Almost everything this guy says is a lie, which sounds like an exaggeration, but in this case, it’s weirdly not. If you asked me to come up with a bigger liar, I’d really struggle, and there is NO shortage of liars in this world to choose from. Maybe George Santos?

[exitseven]

Trump could have avoided being charged with 50 fake crimes and risking his family's business and even risking his own life simply by just going home and just being a rich celebrity. Instead he decided to run for a second term.
Is it really beyond the realm of possibility that he just wants to leave a strong America for his kids and grandkids? The prospect of a person with his ego getting his likeness on Mt Rushmore maybe had something to do with it as well.
If he turns the country around he will have deserved it.

[Twalli]

He's already done it, we were on an economic upturn in January. In 100 days of his second term we're going the opposite direction. He inherited a strong economy twice and left the first time with a shattered one which was only patiently worsened by COVID-19 (although he did a lot to make it far worse here thsn it needed to be). Considering thst we're trending down qnd he hasn't even been jn office a year this time, we're unlikely to end his term with a better economy than what he left us with the first time.

[exitseven]

@Twalli Inflation has steadily gone down, the jobs numbers have been good, tariffs have netted an additional 80 billion dollars in tariffs, Dozens of countries have made arrangements to build facilities in the United States and the stock market has rebounded. Economists (not that they are right all the time ) predict a GDP increase of 4% .

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

There’s not really “sides” here. They’re both garbage humans, at this point it’s not even a competition for who’s less garbage than the other, it’s who’s worse.

[Anonymous]

Is TACO fuckface Trump still planning a $100M military style birthday as if he's fucking Kim Jong Un?

[WhiteSteve]

Of course he is. On the taxpayer’s dime, of course. But it’s well worth it to get our more dimly lit citizens chanting “U-S-A!!! U-S-A!!! U-S-A!!!”🤦‍♂️😂

[Jersey2]

So two big Alpha males had a falling out… so what. I like both of them. Trump has done the seemingly impossible and so has Musk.

Musk is right about the deficit and the bill. Trump probably is listed on the Epstein files but to what degree we don’t know and I don’t think it is major. He was ready to release the files so that makes me think he isn’t concerned with what actually happened with his being there although the files could make it look worse as the FBI hated Trump.

It very well could be that Israel used Epstein to blackmail people high up to help them. But if that gets out, Israel will be cut off and would die in 10 years. That is the reason I think the files won’t be released, especially with all that is going on on college campuses.

[WhiteSteve]

Damn near fell out of my chair laughing at the idea that either of these two are “alpha males.” Holy shit. Holy SHIT😂😂😂 Trump is a fraudulent fake-alpha, and Elon is so weird he makes Trump look semi-normal. Both of these guys are nobody without money. ALPHA MALES? WOW, bro….🤣🤣🤣




These guys are fucking candyasses, bro, I don’t know what you’re seeing that I’m not. Alpha males….🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[Jersey2]

Of course they are… how many women and kids do each of them have? Who is rocking modelers in the bedroom? Who can get on a jet that they own, go anywhere, and buy whatever is of value there? Who has built billions dollar companies? Who has sold billions worth of products to thousands or more people? Hint, it ain’t you.

[WhiteSteve]

This is like a 14 year old’s idea of what an alpha male is, lmfao. Do your parents know you’re on here?🤨🤣

[Jersey2]

I guess you can just blow everything off that you don’t agree with but it makes you sound stupid.

[Kingofkings1992]

Let’s clear something up. There’s no such thing as an “alpha male.” The whole concept of it is just stupid

[Kingofkings1992]

@Jersey2 he is kind of right though. You do sound kind of stupid saying that description about these two men. Traditionally, when people think of an alpha male, they think of someone like this

[Jersey2]

@Kingofkings1992 I think you forgot to switch accounts with you last comment. Anyway, they do fit the description of the non-existent lateral category of Alpha. No, it doesn’t exist but we all have an idea of what it is supposed to be like and guys who acquired massive wealth, pussy, and material things fit the bill. And yes, they both acquired massive wealth, stop with the bullshit about how they inherited some… which lots of people have and either lost it or did nothing.

[Kingofkings1992]

@Jersey2 whitesteve isn’t the same person as me. No clue where that came from

[Chazmatazz269]

If Drumpf was confirmed in the Epstein files, there’s no way on Earth that Biden and his cronies would have held that back. Even if Biden was on there too, the democrats would have gladly burned them both down in order to force Harris into the office. So that’s highly unlikely.


At this point, it’s the mark of pure ignorance to suggest that we can only like one OR the other with these things. Guess what kids! Grownups fight! Big surprise, huh? Does that mean you have to choose one side and sentence the other to death?
Only in America!!!


Dumb f*cks. That’s the WHOLE reason the people of this country are so easily controlled. “Us vs them” has all you morons so busy fighting with each other over dumb sh*t like this, you don’t have time to look for the real source of corruption, even in the highly unlikely chance that you have the brains.

[David318578]

Unless Biden is also on that list...

[Chazmatazz269]

You need to work on your reading and comprehension. I covered that explicitly.

[David318578]

You need to work on your logic. Why would Biden release something that would destroy himself?

[Joshydavid25]

He probably is in the Epstein files, for snitching on Epstein.. What Elon is talking about is a nothing burger.. Trump fully cooperated when they were investigating Epstein, and you even have a video of him pointing suspicion at the Island back in 2015, well before Epstein was arrested..

[WhiteSteve]

I don’t really have an opinion on the Epstein stuff other than “hold everyone accountable who should be held accountable.” I could see Trump just being an innocent guest, I could see him being a pedo. He’s said enough suspect things about underage girls where I could definitely buy it. But that’s what the legal system is for, not for me to guess from an armchair. I’m just saying fuck protecting anyone. Left, right, center…. haul ‘em all in. And we can just celebrate evil being accounted for and not keep a political scorecard as to who had more offenders.

This is just more about a consistent pattern of MAGA flip-flops to me. Everybody’s the best, and then a thing happens, and then they’re the worst. Or there’s a spin to “this is no big deal”, or a goalpost move on the gameplan.

Epstein specific though, it’s wild to me that that Dan Bongino dude was such a hardcore conspiracy theorist about it all, “something stinks, this is a cover-up.” Then dude gets a top position in the FBI and is on TV, just immediately like “nah, he killed himself.” I haven’t even really clocked the response of his former fans, but I’d imagine they weren’t just like “oh, ok, guess we were wrong. On to the next thing.”😂 Wild times to be alive, for sure

[Joshydavid25]

I agree to holding anyone who is guilty accountable.. If Trump was guilty, he should be held accountable, and I'm sure he would've have his extreme supporters, but much of them would dissapate.. My thing is that, if the Epstein thing had any legs, they would've used it against Trump by now.. They've tried everything in the book to throw at this guy, and nothing has stuck.. I'm thinking that while Trump isn't perfect and made have a few skeletons in the closest, legally, he's just about as clean as any rich and powerful person may come.. I can understand his brash, and unfiltered demeanor may turn a lot of people off, but the media makes it seem like he is the serpent that tricked Eve and corrupted humanity..

[lightbulb27]

not a smart post... we already knew that and they should publish it.

There is only one way with Trump... his way.

I agree with a lot of what Trump says, but agee with Elon on other. They really should talk...

Social media, as we know, causes disasters...

[Sunrising]

I'm not choosing sides they are both very successful. The love affair between them was always going to be a short one, and end in tears, because they both have totally different and opposite agendas. I'd ask why they got together in the first place, they must have known they'd have contradicting opinions.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

bumpy road?

[WhiteSteve]

“Whattup, Big Perm? I mean, Big Worm?”🤣🤣🤣

[Shiprex]

I'm just getting the popcorn in because neither are good but the show must go on.

[WhiteSteve]

🍿🍿🍿

[Shiprex]

🥃🥃🥃

[msc545]

Of course he is in the Epstein files, but does anyone really care? No matter what he did or who he did it to he will never b punished for any of it.

[WhiteSteve]

No lie there. I’m more just in this to laugh at the chaos and the attempts to downplay all this, tbh😂

[jshm2]

LOL, doesn't matter how great the circus, all the clowns in it are the same.

The Elon/Trump circus doesn't have any great acts, just clowns.

[Anonymous]

Did these two friends fight? 😌 Sincere friendships always end one day. 😂

[WhiteSteve]

I am stunned, shocked, and completely blindsided by this😱

[Anonymous]

What is funny is that muskie isn't telling us anything we didn't already know. Him saying it doesn't make it any more legit.

[captain_voidwalker]

Why pick sides. We all know they both have big egos and big egos tend to clash from time to time. We just grab popcorn and enjoy the show.

[seeyounexttuesday]

The US government adds a trillion dollars in debt every 180 days. A trillion seconds ago was 30,000 BC

[Anonymous]

I think they're in on it together and pulling another hoax on the fake news.

[beefcakebradybatson]

Trump and Musk ARE awesome... AWESOMELY EVIL !!! !!!

[Twalli]

Still don't like either. Elon is still crazy even if he no longer supports our sith lord president.

[grega239]

I think its a fake beef. Bait for the left/msm.

[Godihateyou]

Elon is right about everything. DONALD Trump is a retarded lier.

[Irritatedyet]

I wish they'd both stfu.

[Anonymous]

I like them both. Do you still like Biden?