Why cannot the USA prevent school shootings?

[Anonymous]

[jennifer_bloom]

School shootings are caused by unstable people and unstable people come from unstable families. Unstable families can not be corrected with top down processing through government or bureaucratic interventions, it must be corrected through bottom up processing where every day and physically moving people, homogenous to that environment, manually socialize and work to change the every day culture of those social pocket in society. This is a cultural and life style symptom, not a bureaucratic symptom.

[goaded]

You don''t think there are "unstable families" in other countries? The US has a higher rate of knife murders than, say, the UK.

[jennifer_bloom]

@goaded I read 1 in 4 American adult a are raised buy an alcoholic guardian or family member. If America did not have so much mental illness, they would not have elected a Donald trump when he was transparently draconian.

[jennifer_bloom]

I’m sorry, autocorrect added spelling errors.

[goaded]

My attempted point was that America is still exceptionally violent compared with other countries. More knife murders per capita, but 70% of murders used firearms!

Perhaps universal health care would help.

[jennifer_bloom]

@goaded I am referring to environmentally created mental health problems, not genetic chemically created issues.

[Gwendoline]

Don't het it either. Like in the uk a person just can't wander in off the street into the school let alone with a gun.

[contentious]

There are 115,171 schools in the United States. On average there have been 42 school shootings per year since 1970. This means that 0.03% of schools have school shootings per year. So the United States is very close to preventing school shootings at 100% of schools in our country. There are a few outliers.

[contentious]

Additionally most of the school shootings that do happen are not mass shootings. They are just one person attempting to murder another person (i. e. gang violence).

[Knightwatch27]

You mean prevent as in none ever? No country on earth can do that. The USA harbours 450 million people dude. You can not at all times control and monitor every single person.

There's always more you could do to increase security, however.

[Asker]

"The USA harbours 450 million people dude. You can not at all times control and monitor every single person."

This is an excuse.

China harbours a billion people dude. You can at all times control and monitor every single person.

[Knightwatch27]

1. Shootings happen in China. www.reuters.com/.../

Tons of other crimes happen as well in China. If you think they have complete control over their populous, you're ridiculous.

2. Seriously? You'd want a complete police state where you have zero freedom and integrity, no privacy? Where the state rules your every moment of your life. That is insanity. If you want that move to communist China where secret police will abduct you for breathing a word against the government.

[goaded]

333 million.

[slatyb]

We could, but we won't because there is a vocal minority who thinks they have a right to own military assault rifles. Other countries don't have school shootings because they banned private ownership of such weapons. There was a school shooting in Australia decades ago, they immediately passed legislation to prevent them, and there has never been another.

[Pterodon]

Stfu. Before you go banning “military assault rifles” don’t you think you ought to define what one is first? You don’t even have a clue what one is. The weapons are already out there.

[slatyb]

@Pterodon And yet, somehow, no other developed nations suffer homicides at anywhere near the rate of the US, and they have zero school shootings.

[Pterodon]

So what? Then move there if you don’t like it. Define a military assault rifle. I dare you

[slatyb]

@Pterodon Right, you would rather see thousands murdered than let go of your fantasy.

[Pterodon]

You’re in a fantasy if you think you’re going to get guns off the street

[Miristheiss]

That is basically a murder. You think a government can stop murders. Ok.

What is wrong with you? No one can control anyone. Everyone has free will. Do you really think a government can stop all evil?

You really think that?

[goaded]

Don't you think they should try? Should governments allow every crime?

[Miristheiss]

@goaded
Murder has existed forever.
It always will.
You speak as if laws will prevent all murders.
"For 2021, the UNODC reported 458,000 homicides globally."

The rough estimate globally for 2021 was 458,000.

458,000!

[goaded]

This is that ridiculous argument that the right always uses. What is it with people who think than less than 100% effectiveness is worthless? ↗

20,000 of those murders were in the US. Unless you want to compare your country to South American and African countries, that's terrible.

And school shootings are not "basically a murder", it's multiple attempted murders of children with the kind of weapon most people shouldn't have access to.

[Miristheiss]

@goaded
Your pride makes you think it can be stopped by a law.
Good luck on that magic law.
Only the heart can prevent that. Good, honest people that know right and wrong. A corrupt, degenerate culture full of nihilism, evil and selfishness will produce a lot of sleazy people that do not give a shit about life and do evil things.
This is the fruit of society falling starting decades ago.
If you think a law or laws can end this propose your ideas?

[goaded]

When are you going to realise that reducing something bad is still a good thing, even if it doesn't eliminate it completely? Would you stop research into cancer treatments? Stop bothering with speed limits or traffic lights?

You know the general murder and violent crime rates were about twice as high just 30-40 years ago?

Mass shootings require two things, an idiot and a gun. If you try to avoid idiots getting guns, you will reduce mass shootings.

[Miristheiss]

@goaded
How do you do that?
1,000,0000,0000 guns on the planet.
Suggest this law?

[goaded]

The whole world is not like the US. Most countries manage.

[Miristheiss]

@goaded
What is the law?

[goaded]

Pick a country. Any one of the 50 or so that have a murder rate a quarter of the US's, for example, which includes most of Western Europe, Oceania, etc. Looking specifically at school shootings (which doesn't necessarily include fatalities), and the US is A#1, with 574 in the last 25 years.

Your attitude quite literally an international sick joke.
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[Miristheiss]

@goaded
Pick what?
What laws?
If you like a law someone has name what the law is, what it does.
One that does not tell a US citizen they aren't allowed to defend themselves from the endless fatherless inner city thugs that go around getting guns illegally and shooting each other by the thousands.

If there is something you propose from whatever Europe has then name what it is.

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[midnightmoon05]

Easier to raise stupid crazy people than putting effort/hardwork into caring/raising a child. So these kids grow up lost and blame others.

[FunkyMonkee]

Because they don't want ANYONE to have guns!! So, if a shooter walks in, they KNOW they're safe from anyone else trying to take THEM out!! I'm no gun lover by ANY stretch of the imagination but, f the criminals can have guns, so should we!!

[purplepoppy]

Because in America a person's right to walk around with a high powered gun outweighs a child's right to stay alive.

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

Because the NRA is funding lobbyists to make sure there are no laws preventing the sale of any automatic weapons

[Pterodon]

Because the liberals will not lock schools down with only a single entrance but multiple one way exits like federal buildings. Every shooter entered through a side door that was left open

[kavakava]

And I will add that after the fact, the local police and the FBI and everyone and their dog already knew about the crazy guy. I bet to this very day that the uvalde Texas high School hasn't fixed those doors. And for what it's worth, most smartphones can do facial recognition. Why aren't schools equipped with facial recognition to find the crazies they already know about?

[Anonymous]

They can but Republicans choose not to. They love guns more than kids.

[Kaneki05]

Because they give the people the guns, it's pretty simple.

[OneViewpoint]

It's really simple. Because the US loves guns and violence more than we love our kids.

[beefcakebradybatson]

NO NATIONAL GUN CONTROL AND REGULATIONS, thus disaffected dudes (and 97% are dudes, usually white dudes) can get a gun even in places with strict gun laws.

[DrPepper12]

Cuz we don't want to? We love our guns more than our kids!

[Staximus]

Because we protect our banks and politicians with guns, but our kids with a little sign that says "gun free zone"

[Filthy_Immigrant]

we haven't had a school shooting in 3 years so please stop the whining and focus on other problems that are really affecting the world

[Kaneki05]

In 3 years? Someone needs to do a fact check for himself lmao

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@Kaneki05 yeah go fact check the news your country first.

and tell them to mind their own fucking business while at it.

[Kaneki05]

Antioch High School, Nashville, TN: January 23, 2025 is all I have to say.

Smart guy you are.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@Kaneki05 that was still over 6 months ago

I wish you and everyone else in your country was smart enough to pay more attention to your problems instead ours. if you all would of mind your own business you all would not have all the bombing, rioting, shooting, killing, and raping that the refugees you are all inviding in your land have been committing

[Kaneki05]

Woah didn't realize 6 months was 3 years ago. My man be mathing.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@Kaneki05 who said it was, Einstein? 6 months is still a long time ago.

now go worry about the refugee cockroaches your government let in your land.

[Kaneki05]

'We haven't had a school shooting in 3 years'

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@Kaneki05 are you gonna repeat the same horse shit over and over now? like retard?

[Kaneki05]

Some people can never admit when wrong. You are one of those. You said 3 years ago yet I proved you wrong, and you try to call me the idiot.
You need a mirror.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@Kaneki05 I never called you an idiot but now I should because you're starting to sound like one by repeating the same shit over and over again. I guess getting a W in an argument is not that common for you, huh?

[Kaneki05]

So you agree I got the W and you were wrong? Okay thanks all I needed to know. Nice to see you can admit it.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@Kaneki05 yeah 1 little W so dont flatter yourself. just because you killed one of my pawns does give you an instant checkmate.

[Anonymous]

Because GOOD people are not allowed to carry guns inside schools, to stop the BAD people. This is all being deliberately orchestrated like this, on purpose.

[In_Trance]

Because all of their shootings are planned and staged events.

[seeyounexttuesday]

You can never stop all bad people from doing evil things. Hope this helps.

[Anonymous]

Because of democracy. It never happens in North Korea.

[Anonymous]

Guns and profits are more important than kids and education in the USA.

[exitseven]

too many fatherless families.

[Makeushiver]

Because Congress is bought and paid for by NRA.

[Anonymous]

Republicans like their guns

[Anonymous]

Because that’s their culture

[jahaims]

The government doesn't care

[msc545]

How do you expect them to be prevented?

[goaded]

Well, you could provide each citizen on their 18th birthday a single shot pistol with their name engraved on the bullet... You shoot someone, the police know who did it.

[msc545]

@goaded lol

[goaded]

Republicans.

[Danzigdawson]

And the holy NRA.

[Twalli]

Gun culture

[Tom567456]

Guns