Utah & Texas rank worst for women’s equality, Hawaii & Nevada best. Which model should other states follow?

[SolitarySolace]

According to a WalletHub poll, Utah & Texas rank the two worst states in the US for women’s equality while Hawaii & Nevada rank best. Knowing this… Do you think all other states in the US should be more like Utah & Texas or Hawaii & Nevada?

Personally, I’d say other states in the US should be more like Utah & Texas because men and boys are struggling in education and the workplace across the country while women and girls are over exceeding.

Utah ranked as worst state for women’s equality — WalletHub - www.abc4.com/.../

It’s Not Just a Feeling: Data Shows Boys and Young Men Are Falling Behind - www.nytimes.com/.../boys-falling-behind-data.html

Utah/Texas

Hawaii/Nevada

[genericname85]

boys and young men have been falling behind in academics and education for decades but men still do better in the economy anyway.

and by the way, the metrics used in this comparison is litterally retarded. cause statistically significant differences that surmount to "inequality" (as in differences) in the social scientific sense have nothing to do with "inequality" (as in unfairness or oppression in the public reading of the word). statistical equality across all employed metrics is NOT a thing we want as a society, cause thatwould mean even less children and that's already problematic as is. because that would mean women would spend even less time rising children and without children, our society is fucked.

[SolitarySolace]

That’s fair — economic outcomes are still tilted toward men overall. But do you think boys falling behind in school today might flip that balance long-term?

[genericname85]

no because the statistical differences quoted by your source aren't caused by systemic barriers to entry. they are caused by peoples preferences, choices and behavior.

school as a scocial system does not benefit men cause men learn in different ways and their natural tendencies are not conductive to the grading methologies of the education systems.

so i guess what i'm trying to say in a complicated way is that school is terrible at assessing the performance of men and is great of assessing the perofmance of women. that's the only reason women do better in school. not cause they do actually perform better. the system "school" is just more fitting for female characteristics. plus the school system doesn't meet the economies requiremnts anymore anyway. like what's current in the economy when you start school is already ancient when you're done with school. school is too slow and too behind.

[SolitarySolace]

That makes sense — but if school is the pipeline into the economy, then isn’t a system that favors girls basically setting up the economy itself to shift more female dominated over time? If boys keep falling behind in the credentialed fields, the balance won’t stay tilted toward men’s favor meaning men eventually won't do better in the economy? Women will? Which will only lead toward another imbalance?

[genericname85]

it's not a system favoring girls because the idea is to pipeline people into the economy. it's a system favoring girls cause girls are quiet, harmony seeking and naturally can sit hours on end to do tedious tasks. it's what evolution prediposed them to do. that's why the educaiton system is perfect for them. men however need activity, movement, physicality action and sometimes noise and aggression. all things that are terrible in our education system.

that's why men performing worse in education ironically doesn't show that men perform worse. it shows that the education system performs worse for boys. meaning it's less effective in teaching them things than it is in teaching girls things.

[SolitarySolace]

If the system is built around traits you say girls naturally excel at, doesn’t that mean we’re on track toward a female-dominated economy — whether anyone intends it or not? I don’t know about you, but I don’t want women controlling the economy.

[genericname85]

i don't think so cause you see even though the education system is failing, men are still dominating independend of the educational system. women are only doing relatively better economically than in the past due to immense social pressures and i figure these social pressures are mostly based in ideological nonsense like the "fight against inequality" and it will eventually fizzle out. i think it'll fizzle out cause people will soon learn what is already known as a fact in social science and that fact is: equality of outcomes is neither a predictor nor a marker of general social fairness. in fact forcing equality of outcomes results in more people doing things they don't actually wanna do because of said social pressures. that can't last forever cause it's dumb and society isn't dumb. they'll learn.

[SolitarySolace]

But what if these ‘temporary’ pressures end up becoming permanent? Social norms have a way of entrenching themselves over time — so why are you so sure this will just fizzle out? It feels like you’re not taking this as seriously as I am, because if boys keep falling behind while girls get pushed forward, that imbalance won’t just vanish on its own.

[genericname85]

i don't think they're gonna become permanent, cause they go against science and the will of the people. it's somewhat like swimming up stream. you either keep pushing or you'll drift back down. and eventually it's gona drift back down. i could be wrong but i don't htink i am

[SolitarySolace]

History shows plenty of examples where changes didn’t ‘drift back down’ but permanently reshaped the economy — credentialism making college mandatory for good jobs, WWII pulling women into the workforce and keeping them there after, divorce laws locking men into lifelong financial obligations, even tech like social media reshaping entire industries. None of those pressures fizzled out — they entrenched. So why should I believe this education imbalance will just ‘fade away’ instead of restructuring the economy around women?

[genericname85]

bro the amout of women and especially the work hours per woman in the workforce reduced significantly after the end of WW2 the only reason the dual breadwinner model even became a thing is because of the financial invalidation of the single breadwinner model so the second men can earn enough to feed a family women will stop working again cause a full time job for both partners and rising a child is not possible at the same time. and you see that reflected in fertility rates. the more women work, the less children. just wait till after world war 3 when the economical global situation resets and things will go back to the way they were with the single breadwinner model.

[SolitarySolace]

And this discussion started out as agreeing boys and men are falling behind in education while women and girls are exceeding. You must have a seriously negative view of men if you want to see the economy itself dominated by women. Next thing you know a feminist is going to make it so that men make less than women. Way to go dumb fuck.

[SolitarySolace]

Not worth continuing this — you’ve already gone off the rails from the actual poll. Enjoy basking in your dumb fuck ness

[SolitarySolace]

And don’t bother attempting to continue to prove yourself correct. That would only show that you’re desperate.

[genericname85]

Wtf you must have written the last 3 comments under the wrong opinion. Cause at no point did I state or imply that I "want" women to dominate economically. I I literally just stated the fact that they aren't and will not dominate economically and that I can't see them ever dominating. So I don't know what you're talking about at all.

[FunkyMonkee]

If I wanted women to be equal to men, I'd turn gay!!

[Dongie]

Yee-haw!! No, that sucks for us.

[Dongie]

At least I'm in Tejas where women know how to be.

[SolitarySolace]

Do you think that’s why Texas ranks where it does — because it sticks to traditional roles?

[Dongie]

Yep! We do have full-blown lunatics too just not too many and a good percentage of our women put them down!

[beefcakebradybatson]

Hawaii and Nevada.