What does the shooter deserve?

[Danny_dan92]

Electric chair with lowered amperage?

Or solitary confinement for life without possibility of parole?

Electric chair

Solitary confinement

[Chazmatazz269]

Quick and painless execution, though it pains me to suggest.
Contrary to the lies and rhetoric coming from the mainstream media and lunatic left, Charlie Kirk was VERY anti-violence, and a Christian. I’m not a Christian. I want vengeance. Charlie would not want that. Christ preached forgiveness. So does AA. I’m a lousy drunk. I should be better. I’m trying like hell to channel Charlie Kirk.
Charlie’s family watched him die fairly slowly. Nobody deserves that. The shooter’s own family participated in turning him in to authorities. They definitely don’t deserve to suffer further, in my opinion.
I want vengeance. But i’m an asshole and way more people than just the shooter will suffer his death.
Quick and painless, because that’s what Charlie would advocate. Anyone who suggests otherwise is a liar or a fool.

[Chazmatazz269]

The authorities have reported that Robinson’s partner is cooperating fully with the investigation and isn’t a suspect in any way. I do not condone executing someone for guilt by association. When they find he had accomplices, i agree that they should be held accountable. His partner turned the authorities onto a couple of radical left groups he was engaging with online and in person. One of which shut down their website very shortly after the shooting. It’s highly likely that others were directly involved in planning and execution, as well as after the fact. If they catch them and convict them, shut them all down for good. Quickly, painlessly and privately.

[Danny_dan92]

I agree Charlie wouldn’t want his killer to suffer. However we have to acknowledge that at the same time, Charlie was willing to have peace with those that despised him and including those who clearly wanted him dead. He showed mercy to those individuals. But his killer didn’t have the same level of compassion…

So, personally I don’t think he deserves compassion and mercy.

[Chazmatazz269]

If you displace your humanity in order to punish those who would disrupt or destroy civilization, then they have won. We don’t have to lower ourselves and make ourselves indistinguishable from them. Being better and doing better is the way forward. We got to this place by justifying bad behavior because our political opponents behaved badly. Then a long, tragic series of electing “the lesser of two evils” out of that justification. We can do better. We’ve done it before. We have to do better again. Make them realize that they can’t win by being worse. Then everyone has to be better and healing the country can begin.

[Dargil]

Due process of law in Utah. In Utah, the firing squad is a legally sanctioned method of execution. I suggest a publicly broadcast execution. One bullet at a time. Good to make it a little less humane. That might dissuade the TDS schizo's, angry incel Karens and leftist nut balls including those that post here. You know who you are and so do I.

[Danny_dan92]

I agree

[Danny_dan92]

That’s how you send a message to other’s who wish to do similar things

[Anonymous]

I'd leave that up to the judge and jury and be glad it's not up to me. I feel bad for the parents to a point. But look how they raised him.

[Danny_dan92]

The parents are Christian conservatives. So this is a case of the child not sharing the same beliefs as his parents.

And I for one can say this definitely happens because my parents are hardcore democrats and I used to be one but I’m not a libertarian

[Opinion Owner]

Valid points

[Danny_dan92]

Now* a libertarian

[Jessie006]

A fair and unbiased trial. Then imprisonment, the same as any other criminal.

[Danny_dan92]

If it’s imprisonment he should get life and in solitary confinement. That way he can lose his mind more than it already is

[Jessie006]

Why? What use is that, it will just end up costing your government more money when inevitably he needs extra healthcare from the isolation. People need to be rehabilitated not locked in a dark room to go mad. I'll never understand America no one is this mad when it's a school that's been shot up and kids killed. But when a guy who honestly was not a very nice person is killed they lose their minds

[Danny_dan92]

Ok, fair point it would cost more money. So then maybe the death penalty is a better option.

To your other point, can you still have the same opinion of him after seeing this? He was genuinely being kind and compassionate towards this trans.

[Danny_dan92]

youtube.com/shorts/FhzqKQzueKU?si=bByY_43TfLz7P2Md

[Jessie006]

He said multiple times he didn't believe empathy was real (sign of a psychopath) he said if a 10 year old girl is raped she should be forced to carry the baby even if it will kill her (he said he would make his own daughter do that) and hundreds of other times he said abhorrent things. I feel for his family and no one deserves to be murdered for their political stance. The death penalty has been removed in virtually every developed nation because it's

[Jessie006]

Been proven many times not to be a deterrent also there's the concern that you execute an innocent person. No crime should be punishable by death. If they did something that bad they deserve to be kept in prison for life to be taught a lesson

[Danny_dan92]

And aside from that, you don’t have me on other social media but I can speak for myself. I always get upset when school shootings happen, and everytime I call my government to increase school security to match that as the security at airports.

There are no mass shootings at airports or hell, even sporting events like professional sporting events. Because they have security screenings. Schools in the USA are WIDE OPEN. So it’s no surprise why mass shootings keep happening at schools.

And no, banning guns won’t solve the problem. Why? Well, drugs are illegal right? There are still people that somehow get their hands on drugs.

What we need is common sense laws. And full disclosure, I used to be a democrat. Now I’m politically homeless. I am not fully on one side or the other. Case in point I’m pro gun AND pro choice. I think we should have the right to have weapons to protect ourselves from bad people, and I think women should have bodily autonomy, not to mention, I’m a man. Who am I to tell women what they can and cannot do. I’m not a woman. So I cannot relate

[Jessie006]

We banned gun ownership in the UK after one school shooting, guess what we haven't had a single one since. No private citizen needs a gun, most people in the rest of the world think it's mental that people are just allowed to own guns, there is absolutely no need for them the majority of people in the UK/Europe go their entire life and never see a gun apart from maybe armed police in an airport. Security on the schools isn't a solution that's just papering over the cracks of a broken society. Take the guns off people, and focus on mental health treatment.

[Danny_dan92]

I’m open to agreeing, can you provide video clips of him making these claims or do you wish I look it up? But given you know he has said these things I think it would be best you share that to me.

And again, I’m pro choice. Rape being one of those reasons. I don’t have kids, but I know for a fact that if I had a daughter and god forbid she was raped. I would be furious if she’s forced to conceive that child because of laws.

But all this being said, I still don’t think his death should be dismissed as insignificant. Especially when he had a wife and two children. I don’t agree with everything he stood for, but I still think what happened to him shouldn’t have happened and show empathy.

[Danny_dan92]

We do have a lot of common ground here because I agree with you that we do have mental illness.

Jessie, let me ask you this. Have you served in the military?

[Jessie006]

Absolutely, his death isn't insignificant any time someone is murdered it's horrible and unacceptable, his children have lost their father and his wife is a widow no matter what people's opinion is of a person they are still important to someone. The easy solution to making sure things like that don't happen is taking away the easy access to guns

[Jessie006]

No I haven't served in the military, my father was in the RAF and my brother in the royal engineers though so I have military people in my family

[Danny_dan92]

So do you agree that maybe given the chance that with the amount of money the US government gives to countries like Israel so they can carry out genocides can instead be used to implement sound security protocols in schools would at the very least reduce the likelihood of mass shootings at schools?

[Jessie006]

Absolutely, the money would be far better spent sorting the issues out in the US rather than funding the genocide in Palestine that Israel are committing. But that won't happen because Israel basically controls every decision the US government makes, due to the amount of blackmail materials they have on virtually every powerful person in the western world

[Danny_dan92]

Ok, now the UK military actually purchases weapons from gun manufacturers that are based in the USA. In addition to that, these gun manufacturers don’t always make money from said government contracts. Because they go through a bid process. They compete with one another to develop and then (if they win) mass produce the new service rifle of the military. That is when they get funds from the government, all of their other revenue on an annual basis is from civilian purchases. So, that being said. I cannot think it is possible that these gun manufacturing companies can stay afloat if you eliminate their ability to make revenue from civilian purchases.

Also, I was in the military here in the USA. And let me tell you, there are a LOT of differences between military grade weapons and civilian ones. So there are a lot of regulations and laws already implemented… and yet. After countless school shootings, my government refuses to increase school security.

When (keep in mind) after 9/11 it almost became a world wide standard to increase airport security. And there hasn’t been another attack like 9/11 since. Also, these same politicians always have a security detail around them everywhere they go… so how can they have the nerve to stand on the graves of these poor kids that have no security protection meanwhile they have plenty… do you see how cruel that is?

[Danny_dan92]

Yes unfortunately that is true, I post on my social media constantly condemning the fact that my government supports it. But hey, I’m a tiny voice. They don’t hear me, and if I had reach. They’d probably kill me… unfortunately.

[Jessie006]

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Charlie Kirk's assassination was a false flag operation he very recently started turning against Israel and was calling for the full unredacted release of the Epstein files, we all know that trump will do anything to keep them quiet so who knows but that's just pure speculation. There's a lot of people in those files from both sides of the political spectrum that would have the power and the want to silence someone with influence and a following who was calling for the release of them

[Danny_dan92]

See now we’re getting somewhere Jessie. Yes, I agree with you and that’s a valid point.

I think the same thing, cause you see at first most people were fully supportive of Israel but overtime… people began to see the cracks in the narrative.

I for one definitely noticed it right away from a strategic and tactical perspective. They kept saying there were hostages… but they kept dropping bombs and leveling buildings. Like wtf? That is NOT how you handle a hostage situation. And mind you, you don’t even need to have military training or tactical training to understand that simple concept. It’s simply common sense.

I kept debating far right people, (including on this app) the wrongs of the IDF. And I would win every argument, and these kinds of debates were happening all over. One of the most high profile debates being the one on the joe rogan podcast where Dave Smith debated Douglas Murray. Douglas Murray being a Brit that fully supports Israel’s actions and Dave smith literally destroyed him. Didn’t help that even Joe Rogan was on Dave’s side.

[Danny_dan92]

And yes, I definitely think Trump is on that list. How did they go from saying there was a lot to reveal to… nothing to see. Doesn’t add up. Plus Trump getting overly defensive when the reporter brought up Epstein.

It’s disgusting, these old men taking advantage of young girls against their will.

And full disclosure, Trump is being a hypocrite by pointing the finger saying no other president unveiled the documents, when he is no different. But that paints a more grim picture, which is why (like I told you earlier) I’m politically homeless. I am not left or right. I’m on the side of my fellow tax payers and tbh want my government completely dismantled. The whole thing to it’s core is rotten

[Hardon-Collider]

What they deserve is a consequence that is not of this world. The cosmic order, not a human judge, is the one who must set the penalty. The violation of cosmic law, the tearing of the spiritual fabric, is not something a prison cell can address. It creates a spiritual debt that must be paid by the soul itself, in the time between death and rebirth. The soul must experience the full horror of its act and then undertake the immense task of repairing the damage to the world it created. This is a process of cosmic balancing, not a legal sentence. An electric chair is just a crude, physical way of trying to deal with a spiritual crime.

[Anonymous]

who's the weirdo saying they don't have gun attacks in the UK because they banned guns? No, they just have kids being arrested for wielding a hatchet to prevent immigrant criminals from raping their 12 year old sister. What a fucking joke.

And I don't like the death penalty, or locking people up to go crazy in solitary. I think that hard work is the actual solution. Not slave labor, but forced labor. As a man, I'm sure you've felt the satisfaction of a hard day's work and seeing progress made on something that YOU did. That's a big part of what's missing in people these days and it is fixable.

[Anonymous]

obviously death penalty. I'm sick of people siding with the criminals and ignoring the victim. if someone was going to kill you, you will kill them in self defense. so if that killer is caught, they should be killed for justice to be served. I also think there needs to be new sweeping laws criminalizing calling public figures fascists and Nazis. jail time would be appropriate for those people. because when they call someone a fascist it's a dog whistle for someone to shoot them.

[Anonymous]

Of those two, the chair. And put it on HBO. Let them see the process. Let them see Bubba shoving bags of cotton up his ass, to prevent him from shitting himself when the the 2500 volts hit him.

[Danny_dan92]

Fuck yeah

[Opinion Owner]

I saw that in a movie. Who knew? 🤣

[Anonymous]

He deserves to be tried and convicted in a court of law, and to spend enough time in prison to experience how bitches like him are treated there. I guarantee there are a LOT of guys in prison who loved Charlie. Tyler Robison deserves the opportunity to get "acquainted" with those guys and spend a lot of quality time with them. Then he deserves to be executed by firing squad, which is still a thing here in Utah. I think that would be most fitting given the nature of his crime.

[OneViewpoint]

A monument! That's what we did for Confederate traitors who caused 680,000 deaths. Why not this guy?

[Danny_dan92]

Those monuments were placed in the same states that made up the confederacy… this shooter does not represent the United states as it is.

[OneViewpoint]

And Confederate traitors did not represent the country they were trying to overthrow and replace with a slave nation. We let them build monuments even though they lost the war. What's your point?

[Danny_dan92]

The monuments were placed in the states that made up the confederacy.

[Danny_dan92]

As for the monuments, regardless of the facts about the confederacy, they are a part of history. And are a reminder of what not to do/be

[OneViewpoint]

The same could be said for the shooter. Build the monument. people can interpret it any way they like.

[Danny_dan92]

Ok, fair. But them I suppose that is why those monuments were taken down

[Anonymous]

The most painful and drawn out death imaginable. And televise it for all to see.

[Danny_dan92]

Agreed

[exitseven]

I heard Utah still has the firing squad. What goes around , comes around.

[Danny_dan92]

Nah man, I think he deserves the electric chair

[exitseven]

LaCilla

[Danny_dan92]

They need to do a public execution to. That piece of shit wanted to send a message, what better thing to do than reciprocate than to televise his slow agonizing death. FAFO

[WonderingManII]

I think all murders should be put to death. I get sick of hearing about murders getting out on good behavior.

[Hannajenky]

He deserves prison if convicted, but not death penalty or solitary

[purplepoppy]

Forgiveness and understanding

[seeyounexttuesday]

Hanging from the neck till he's dead.

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

A trial

[Danny_dan92]

Yeah he’ll get one. And then should be put to death

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

Assuming he’s found guilty

[Danny_dan92]

He will be

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

Assuming they found the right guy and didn’t rush a random arrest because of public response, as they’ve done dozens of times before