Anyone who knows the law understands that he broke specific guidelines which the FCC is in charge of reviewing, knows that he is at fault for his own firing from the studio.
Don’t want to be punished for breaking tort laws, which you sign willing contracts that you are full knowing you must abide by. Then don’t be a retard in front of a bunch of cameras filming you doing so with indisputable proof.
What he did was beyond just a joke. It was an egregious statement making light of public murder.
if you believe you yourself should start being gunned down in the street for every time you piss some off with your words. Then stand by Jimmy Kimmel and how he makes light of the situation.
If you don’t believe you should be gunned down for your own words that piss those around you off, but still want to stand by Jimmy Kimmel who makes light of someone dying for no reason other than ACTUAL FREE SPEECH. Then congratulations, you’re a hypocrite riddled with double standards.
The smartest option would be option 3. Condemn senseless political violence. And believe no one should be murdered much less blamed for their own murder or ridiculed as such. And now you no longer believe in yourself being shot for pissing strangers off who can choose to not like you for just about any reason they wish to perceive, and you’re also not a hypocrite! If you chose option 3! Go on and award yourself with a golf clap.
Jimmy Kimmel is not the martyr nor the victim in this situation. Charlie Kirk was. Anyone who would feel bad for the guy being a belligerent condescending asshole on live television toward the family and all those grieving, while spewing false information about the shooter to the public. They’re either a braindead narcissist, or they’re ignorant to how the FCC and its function in upholding legalities and accountability towards those that break certain laws work. And they need to start educating themselves before running their mount lest they wish to sound like an idiot in the public eye.
not only does Jimmy Kimmel deserve any sympathy. He still deserves to be sued personally. He is a hypocrite who celebrated the deplatforming of multiple others while playing the victim when it happens to him. He already made his hundred of millions of dollars he can still go home to wipe his tears with. People seriously need to grow and learn the distinctions between people getting assassinated and people losing their jobs for being revolting pieces of shit. There’s a difference.
One is a victim who is never coming back, the other is probably going to milk the attention for all it’s worth because his conceit and narcissism demand he seeks it out.
Jimmy Kimmel situation does not involve “Free Speech” learn the laws. Read. Educate yourselves. And quit parroting every bad talking point that pops up on the internet.
"he broke specific guidelines" Oh, really? Which ones? While you're at it, What was the joke Kimmel told about Kirk's death? ↗ (Clue: there wasn't one.)
@goaded The joke he insinuated was that Kirk died based off his own rhetoric and values he preached. That it’s the same exact people who align with those values Charlie Kirk fought for, that killed him. This joke was of course tasteless, and unfunny because Kimmel is a divisive and controversial hack with ratings that continued to plummet the more he committed to attempting political humor as his highlight material. But it is still a “joke” nonetheless, full of misinformation and a poorly implied narrative that the shooter wasn’t a leftist, antifa, homosexual, furry addict, with a transsexual lover. Instead Kimmel attempted to aim that joke at trivializing the political violence that took place, and cast blame on more conservative types of people.
The problem is people like you are so one sided with your “loyalist” type mentality that you’d rather sacrifice your humanity in holding people accountable when they do horrible things. So all you do is cling to bad habits of doubling down, attempting to gaslight others with idiotic statements. “There was no joke” anyone can pull it up on YouTube. Why people like you try so hard to gaslight some of the easiest to find information on the internet.
Anyone interested can look up the FCC laws and the contracts both the studios and their actors and actresses sign, in order to be held to a higher standard which carry certain obligations which Kimmel broke. You can get as angry as you want and live in your own sad bubble world shouting at the sky and everyone around you that these things don’t exist. But it takes only a moment of curiosity for someone to look it up themselves , and then recognize you for the lame raving lunatic you behave as, before they ultimately dismiss you as being nothing more than a nobody on the internet. So good luck with that.
@Cidknee No, it's ridiculous from the very first words, and of course it doesn't answer the questions "what specific guidelines?" and "what was the joke".
"The joke he insinuated was that Kirk died based off his own rhetoric and values he preached."
No, that's a lie. All he said was:
"We hit some new lows over the weekend. With the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them. Anything they can to score political points from..." then went on to show Trump not giving a damn about Kirk. Absolutely nothing about why Kirk was murdered in the whole monologue.
If you want to be taken seriously you don't start your opinions and responses with obvious lies.
@goaded
"We hit some new lows over the weekend. With the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them."
That's a lie!
He is involved with a tranny and is deeply in left-wing ideology. He's a brainwashed loser looking at the death penalty. He's a product of the radical liberal democrats. They and the MSM are as much to blame for Charlie's death as that monster in Utah!
@Cidknee How is that a lie? How long did it take for people in power to start saying the killer must be left wing? Had the echoes of the shot even died down? You want me to dig up quotes from between the shooting and the killer turning himself in (and Patel lying about it being because of the FBI)? Not from random people on the internet, but from "journalists" and leaders on the right, especially Trump.
www.nbcnews.com/.../charlie-kirks-death-prompts-outpouring-shock-grief-condemnations-polit-rcna230472
"Trump called for "all Americans and the media to confront the fact that violence and murder are the tragic consequence of demonizing those with whom you disagree" — but he then called out "radical left political violence," ...
[Trump has] dubbed California Gov. Gavin Newsom, a Democrat, “Newscum” and called former Sen. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., an “enemy from within.” Last year, he described Pelosi, D-Calif., the former House speaker, as “evil, sick, crazy.” "
How about the people lying that Democrats were telling people not to pray?
The left, as in AOC, Omar, and other big mouth politicians including the mainstream media, talk show freaks like Kimmel all have called Charlie a spreader of hate. That's why that bitch killed him. Which of course it's all lies. And he is fully left-wing indoctrinated. I speak what I've learned. If you don't like it make up your own shit.
And Trump speaks accurately. Have you ever witnessed Pelosi drunk on the floor of Congress? Tell me you've never heard the lies of Schiff and other democrats. If it's true it's proper to say. That's all Charlie spoke was truth. And you defending them, those murderers, is really too much.
You see dumbass! You're fucking doing it. If you plan to quote Charlie Kirk I suggest you go watch unedited versions of his, whole segments at each university. Then your eyes will be opened to the evil of YOUR party and see just HOW wrong they, and you are about him. Can you do that? HUH?
@goaded
Did you ever read the Bible? The practice of stoning was most common until Jesus came along. Anytime somebody on the right especially a Christian says something there are those on your side that change the context to make the person sound bad. If you payed as much attention to your own side as you do the other you would see the real evil.
@Cidknee Nice distraction, by the way, I was asking "How long did it take for people in power to start saying the killer must be left wing?", and you changed the subject to Kirk's views. You and I both know that from Trump on down, they were trying to blame the entire left wing for the killing while ignoring all the attacks on Democrats while the gun was still hot and they had no clue who the shooter was.
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"The practice of stoning was most common until Jesus came along." Yes, US "Christians" prefer the old Testament. Hypocrisy is not at all uncommon on the right; it's not surprising he didn't practice what he preached. What positive or even live-and-let-live things did Kirk say about the transgendered, the gays, women, as groups? Be specific.
Let me tell you something han, there's no distraction and I need not prove a thing to a smug leftist who sees what he wants to see. I knew who did it when I heard about it. 99% of these things are left-wing actions but the killing of Charlie could be none other than a deranged left-wing lunatic such as Robinson. His girlfriend is a tranny.
A lot of that happening as of late. We'll they are very unstable mentally. I'm not sure that Charlie would say any different, maybe gentler. Make no mistake they are psychotic. Just like 40-60% of all left-wing people. They are brainwashed, dumb and blind to what goes on around them, or they are just pure evil. Just like in 1920s Germany the leftist commies pushed the rest far right. It could happen again. The killing of Charlie has not been dealt with yet. You people murdered the VERY wrong man. With that said, Charlie would be the first to give forgiveness and strive to avoid further bloodshed.
By the way, why does it bother you that the blame was laid out ahead of time? We all knew it over here. We were right so why the wrinkle?
@Cidknee "99% of these things are left-wing actions" Liar! Just like your entire movement.
The man who targeted and killed Democratic state lawmaker Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark in their home in Minnesota in June was a Trump supporter.
The man charged with the attempted assassination of Pennsylvania’s Democratic governor, Josh Shapiro, in April was a Trump supporter.
The man convicted of orchestrating a series of shootings at the homes of four Democratic elected officials in New Mexico in 2022 was a Trump supporter.
The man who tried to kidnap then Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and assaulted her husband, Paul, in 2022 was a Trump supporter.
The men who wanted to hang Mike Pence on Jan 6, 2021, were Trump supporters.
The man who killed the son of Obama-appointed District Judge Esther Salas in 2020 was a Trump supporter.
The men who were convicted of trying to kidnap Michigan’s Democratic governor, Gretchen Whitmer, in 2020 were Trump supporters.
The man who sent pipe bombs to the homes of Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, and other top Democrats in 2018 was a Trump supporter.
The man who killed left-wing activist Heather Heyer after driving his car into a crowd of counter-protesters in Charlottesville in 2017 was a Trump supporter.
Yeah, as usual you miss the mark but I won't call you a liar.
The man who did this knew those people. As in friends I hear. And I want you to think about this question after smearing us. Did you hear those democrats who were murdered broadcast by Republican politicians and news commentators about how they were racist, fascist, misogynistic, xenophobic, and sexist? Did you hear anything spoken about them before this happened?
Don't come at me sideways sport. If you want a conversation speak like a man.
@Cidknee You can't call me a liar, because I'm not lying, and no I didn't "hear those democrats who were murdered broadcast by Republican politicians and news commentators about how they were racist, fascist, misogynistic, xenophobic, and sexist", but that's because they weren't any of those things. And yes, I did hear about all of them when they happened, including how the right mocked the old man hit with a hammer.
Just noticed: "You people murdered..." No, that's bullshit. One person did. One person with a gun, of course.
"The man who did this knew those people. As in friends I hear." What? That makes no sense.
Oh yeah, I sure can. I told you not to come at me punk. I've never heard of most of those names as I'm sure you hadn't either. I doubt any of those "victims" were the recipients of their attacks from strangers. Like the Minnesota couple. And the Pelosi dude was a flunky hired by the Pelosi crime syndicate or a sexual queer for him. We, over here are not made up of no class, weak-minded militants.
Charlie's killer didn't know him any better than you. He had listened to the MSM and that charged him up to commit this crime along with the democrat politician, who may have been named already, that met with him. Let's wait and see what arises shall we? Until then I'd say we're through here.
I say you take a look at how much money his show wasn't making.
I'm sure his show was the best during a time when everyone was on lockdown and the TDS was really popular at that time. I mean to put that into perspective, I bet there was even Trumpsters hate watching that kind of material at that time. So what's happened... what has changed?
The people that have TDS are still out there right? But what % of them has dropped the TDS or has walked away from Democrats entirely? Most normies are just tired of hearing about "orange man bad" on constant repeat. And most people have a job again and are no longer on lockdown.
Wouldn't you think the people that makes money off eyeballs on their network are not making money off it right now?
Now with all of that in mind... add what you told us in your update as yet another factor. I didn't watch that final episode (don't watch him at all), but I heard he was talking shit about a victim of violence. That was going to bring a lot of heat. I mean a lot of the left are hemorrhaging voters already over it due to the far lefts blood lust reactions to it.
So add up all those factors, and I'd bet the network executives probably had more to do with pulling him than the evil Orange man did. Occam's razor sort of logic. The simple reason is probably the real reason.
He works for a company so they can fire him for any reason if they don't like something that he says and they feel it misrepresents their brand. But if they fired him out of fear of repercussion or angering anyone in government, then yes, it would be a violation of his free speech.
There are rumors that the trump administration threatened the network that they would lose their FCC license, which allows them to be on television at all.
It wasn't even his jokes he was simply pointing out reality with an unaltered clip of Trump himself.
Nine months ago Trump ran on free speech.
He claimed to be joking. I don't think he knows how. And if he was does that mean his entire campaign was a joke? He has not produced only destroyed. Kimmel is just next on his list of people who have power over him. But evidently Kimmel might have the last word. New news says he's just suspended now.. not fired yet.
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u "Apparently President Trump has made it clear that he plans to revoke the FCC Broadcasting licenses of any network that puts out material he doesn’t approve of, which is allegedly what happened with the ABC network being threatened unless they removed Jimmy Kimmel’s show."
What proof do you have for any of this?
It’s what I saw in a blurb online
I saw somewhere online that the earth is flat.
Free speech is the freedom of speaking without censorship from government or direct legal intervention
It’s not a license to say whatever you want without consequences
If you break this website’s privacy policies they have the ability to close your account and send you on your way
So does ABC
If there was even a shred of proof that Trump directly ordered the termination of Jimmy Kimmle using his authority as head of state then he would already be behind bars under free speech law
The reason that’s not the case is because it’s not true.
Not directly at least
If the ABC execs decided they don’t wanna pick a fight with a man they intend to do business with and so they fired one of their own employees, neither him nor his administration is liable for that decision
That’s the beautiful thing about the capitalist model: private corporations with internal rule and control.
No one batted an eye when Trump himself was banned from Twitter all those years ago.
Those who cried “freedom of speech” were laughed at and told to shut up because twitter is a private company.
Well consider the lesson learned.
I never looked into it because it's stupid but having worked in broadcast I do have a vague understanding of the concept that he was on a "broadcast" station.
So cinemax is an example of cable TV, CNN or whatever the other stations are who broadcast over radio waves with antennas and dishes fall under the category of "broadcast" which requires a Broadcasting license.
They're very hard to get, come from a time where news stations were held to a much higher standard, and are regulated by the FCC.
So if he said something about the Russia case (which I'm guessing he did) and he said something about trump colliding with them after the fbi report came out (which I'm guessing he did) then that is already a reason for his station to lose their Broadcasting license and/or be fined a shit load of money.
The thing is, ever since people realized it was legal to say the nigga on TV but not shut, they kinda stopped caring because it was pissing people off.
So, my understanding is technically by the letter of the law, they're very lucky to still have a license and no fines, but also it obviously would have never been enforced without a very powerful person like a senator, ceo or president, making noise about it.
Why is anyone surprised. The Authoritarian playbook says control the media and the press. Well, Stephen Miller is running this overthrow of government by the impotent pale scrawny White Supremacy handbook.
Why is this a surprise? Trump has already extorted law firms and they all folded like origami and coughed up their tributes / protection money.
Trump has threatened the major networks and they are all on their knees with their tongue up his ass.
Face it, corporate CEO's are famous for greed, not principles or courage. And share prices govern their bonus checks. Law firms are full of people with flexible morality with Bentley's to buy and country club memberships to pay for.
See, Capitalism always makes the right decision... for someone. I'm so glad we bet our society on greed and self interest.
I know very little about it, so I don't know if I agree or disagree with the firing. I don't even know the reason.
BUT
I want to make a point by asking a question. Free speech of Jimmy Kimmel, or free speech of the network?
I think everyone would agree that Jimmy Kimmel has a right to free speech.
But what about the free speech of ABC? Do they have the right to determine what is said on their network?
Jimmy Kimmel has a right to free speech. But no one is obligated to provide a platform to exercise that right.
You can get on your soapbox and speak all you want. If I do not provide you with a soapbox, I am not violating your right in any way.
You can apply this to many rights. You have a right to choose your religion. But I am not obligated to build your church, synagogue, mosque or temple for you.
I don’t think it is, freedom of speech means that u can’t get put in prison for something u said and as far as I am aware he hasn’t been. It does not mean freedom of consequences. U couldn’t make offensive comments at work and expect to not be disciplined, it’s no different for him. To be honest, I would have thought that either the shows layers or editors would have caught this and stopped it going out, even if it went out live then they would have seen what he was going to say in rehearsals.
No, it is not an attack on free speech. He lied to the people watching his garbage show with garbage ratings. He criticized a man people looked up to and loved who was assassinated by a leftist and has his show removed because the broadcasting companies do not want to be associated with what he says regarding the death of Charlie Kirk and the companies have a right to do so. If they bring his show back it is because they caved to leftist terrorist death threats.
Freedom of speech does not mean you are free from consequences
Jimmy Kimmel's job was to provide entertainment, humor, and interviews for the show. He turned the show into a personal soapbox at the beginning of every episode to spew his divisive political rhetoric. That's not what he gets paid to do. Most people will get fired if they work for somebody and they keep talking politics when they're supposed to be working. He had a right to say what he said and his bosses had a right to fire him. He was not charged for any crimes by the government for saying what he said.
It seems like a lot of people defend Charlie Kirk's freedom of speech but not Jimmy Kimmel and vice versa.
At this Point the left deserve to be at the pointy end of the stick. It's funny to see them crying about them losing free speech and being cancelled for a change.
No and he wasn't funny. His show lost over $50 million in the last 12 months. Bye Bye!
Irrelevant hate. And missed the point. If his freedom of speech is punishable, so is everyone else's. What does your feed say?
I thought we just learned from Charlie that our actions have rewards/ consequences
whether or not you have freedom of speech.
The joke was the president, not Charlie himself
Do you really think he has the right to threaten to take away millions of jobs just because one show on one network had one guy that made one joke about him?
In my opinion I think Trump's a bad guy
I didn't vote for him
I'm not surprised when a bad guy does bad things
Everyone has free will that doesn't mean they're going to do the right thing.
Laws are for law abiding citizens and to punish those who don't follow it.
If everyone cared about each other
We would need laws
You realize that statement about Trump’s feelings read as you saying “he hurt his feelings so of course he’s justified in taking away jobs” right?
They just killed a man for his free speech, and beyond that, the democrats haven't cared about (and have actively attacked) free speech for several decades. So yes, it is, but we haven't lived in a free speech society for a while (both regarding civilian and government support, or lack of), so I don't care some propagandist got taken off the air. (Pretty confident he's been reinstated, by the way)
If you're not funny and stand in obsession over a political figure you are not going to be very popular. As I hear it he was on his last leg before popping off ghoulishly over the horrendous assassination of Charlie.
Not unless ABC has suddenly become the government.
free speech, hate speech and censorship are always a very hard balance for any society to get right.
Kimmel is, and always has been, a moron. P. S. And he's ugly too.
I liked watching his show. I kept watching it that means he was good at it. He was bold and making fearless statements in a funny way which also showed masculinity. Thats one of the reasons I was a fan of the show.
Yes its an attack thats a long time coming. Trump was in Kimmels mouth like forever. Maybe they finally had enough of it and actually started taking action. I think thats because of Charlie Kirk 's death which is a serious incident and nothing to make fun of. Which gave them a good reason to go after him.
Yes and a gleeful king Donald was quoted as saying only 2 to go.
FCC carr threats IS a freedom of speech issue.
His cowardly firing as a result is NOT
The dude's ratings were in the gutter anyway so it was only inevitable that his show would end soon anyway.
His speech has never been more free. Nobody is losing money to pay for him to lie. He is also free to speak on his pod cast that nobody listens too.
At your job, are you allowed to say anything you want? Actually, no you are not.
Are regulators allowed to go on specific base blogs and threaten the rights of broadcasters?
@dustybiker2 Actually yes, the broadcast frequencies are owned by the public and administered by our government. Each side of the Professional Political Overseer Class does it when they control the government. The propaganda media just does not care when the left has it done to the right. No one cared when they tried to get Rush off the air.
That wasn't a joke, he was serious.
Plus eye for and eye, actually not even close in reality, he got off easy.
No doubt about it. Even the SCOTUS addressed the matter of government exerting pressure to force the media's hand... NRA v Vullo (2024)...
What? Are you like, one of those Democrats who dont believe in authorianism or something?
I'm no fan of jimmy kimmel and I'm conservative however he shouldn't be cancelled
What happened to Charlie Kirk and his free speech?
That's act of..
Trump is a sick man
Yes..
No fuck em
Death is so funny
The death was not the punchline
Your death would be funnier.
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