We sure reparations wouldn't be just?

[OddBeMe]

I mean they need it. So... good for the goose

Noooo!!!

Yes, the US has made no effort to apologize. Simply stopping your abuse doesn't count.

[NaultD]

Here's the thing if something was stolen from our government from 1776 and then after declaring independence, our government would claim it today with zero regard how it got there today.

In the same way our constitution holds meaning today any injustice our government didn't uphold still stands today. It dosen't matter anyone alive who pushed such unconstitutional injustice on minorities isn't alive today. Our current government is alive and is the power on trial.

[NaultD]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McGirt_v._Oklahoma

Relevant supreme court case by the way.

[purplepoppy]

You can't build bridges today when your foundations are in the past. America needs to let go of things that happened centuries ago, slavery, civil wars, war of independence, even the constitution. All things like talk of reparations do is keep the hate alive and give the far right ammo and an excuse to be racist. America has enough modern day problems to sort out without dragging up the past.

[HighValue]

The left are the very racist ones.

[OddBeMe]

Funny how reparations may close that chapter.

[Anonymous]

Well who is going to pay reparations?

I mean African Americans have more slave owning ancestors than the majority of white Americans. Are African Americans going to pay themselves reparations for what their great great great great great great great great grandfather did 180 years ago?

[Joshydavid25]

No, reparations simply because plenty of "Black" people have gotten plenty of money from the government already, and everybody would need some sort of reparations.. We should also ask certain African countries for reparations because they enslaved and sold our ancestors off as well..

We should ask the Native Americans and some "Black" people would need to give reparations as well since a sizeable minority were also slave owners.. Not to mention the slaves who actually got a little inheritance from their masters.. While slavery was an evil that'll be a stain on all of the world, History is much more nuanced than we have been lead to believe..

[OddBeMe]

More than white people?

[Joshydavid25]

Per capita yeah...

[OddBeMe]

Have a link on that?

[Joshydavid25]

"As of fiscal year 2023 data, approximately 26% of Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), or EBT, participants were Black/African American. This percentage is disproportionately high relative to the Black population's share of the total U. S. population (around 13.7%)."
www.fns.usda.gov/.../characteristics-fy22

[Hagar88]

All the people that were slaves are dead as are the slave masters. More African Americans have slave owning ancestors than White Americans so are African Americans going to pay themselves. Are Scandinavians going to pay reparations for their history of slavery, conquest, wars etc to most of northern Europe, spain?

[Jackblue]

The photograph of Peter has been used so much to intimidate anyone who wants to put slavery in its historical context. Tell me one culture where worse hasn't been done. In Peter's case the overseer who did it was fired by the master perhaps he ended up homeless and died in a ditch somewhere. Slavery indeed was not the same as it was elsewhere in the world, because slaves actually had a high standard of liberty by the standards of their day. They outgrew native Africans and a lot of Europeans because they ate a lot of meat and fish and were less prone to famine. Only socialists and people brainwashed by socialists which unfortunately seems to be most of the world can doubt that. That roach who is in the video should pay reparations for the crimes of the Moors, Ottomans, and Stalin against Europeans.

[OddBeMe]

Blah. Blah, that doesn't assuage US allowing it

[Jackblue]

What it means is black people aren't owed reparations.

[OddBeMe]

Why?

[OddBeMe]

We allowed it to happen

[Jackblue]

Black people "allow" black crime to happen, there are a good many white victims looking worse than peter after black criminls got through with them. I haven't asked black people to pay reparations.

[OddBeMe]

doesn't matter who else allowed slavery. They're all responsible.

[Jackblue]

Kindly read my comments before you respond to them.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

you do know democrats aka the party you worship are the ones who enslaved African Americans right? until Abraham Lincoln aka the creator of the Republican party ended it all.

till then do you ever get tired of trolling? or better yet making yourself sound more like a fool the more you do so?

[NaultD]

The democratic party of Lincoln time was called conservative.

The Republicans even at the time was called radical progressive who thought Lincoln was a weak half measure president at the time.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@NaultD "democratic party of Lincoln" was that suppose to be an oxymoron?

Lincoln was literally the creator to the Republican party and the first Republican to ever be president. he literally saved the people that this genius who asked this question is bitching about

[NaultD]

Radical progressive party.

That is a far cry of todays republican conservative value party who also banish the Confederate flag.

The actual oxymoron

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@NaultD so radical that they ended slavery and yea they banish the confederate flag for the fact that it represent the madness that democrats were known for

[NaultD]

So you're for radical progressive values like Trans rights? I really don't care about party names but values and fighting for rights.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@NaultD who told you I was? I believe the trans and the LGBTQ community are the most toxic people in our society. wtf would I support such insanity?

[OddBeMe]

#@Filthy_Immigrant urinal cakes are cakes! Munch munch dumbass!

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@OddBeMe not sure wtf that means but at the same time I wasn't expecting anything smart to come from you

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@OddBeMe did I say that?

also this is the second time you call me a dumbass like a 3rd grader who just learned how to curse? are you really that butthurt at what I said that now you gotta invent scenarios in your head and put words in my mouth like a real dumbass?

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@OddBeMe are the Nazis today different than the Nazis in WW2?

would you say the same about the KKK, Crips, Bloods, and other group of people? do you know how people ORIGINS work?

oh how cute now I'm a " fckin moron." you got any third grade insults you want to let out mr salty?

[OddBeMe]

Of course. Most are worse. But seriously, you fucks are suck idiots with this. Democratic-Republicans were the foundations of either party. What! We were allies? Pretty sure 150 years dissolves any connection to political platforms of today.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@OddBeMe you're in no position to throw the word "idiot" around. apparently you dont know how a party strategies work huh?

democrats are harming the black community today the most. have you not notice how is democrat /blue cities that have the highest crime rate, drug use, lowest education, highest unemployment and coicidentally; who are the main inhabitants of these cities?

that right there should tell you that the democrats of today are no different then who they used to be. all they've done is switch up their strategies to make themselves look harmless and pretend they are helping the people they are reponsible for destroying and holding back.

but of course explaining this to you is a waste of time either way. cause you're already deep in a leftist comma. plus your low IQ and your elementary school level of wisdom already disqualify you from ever realizing this

[Hardon-Collider]

I guess you are subsidizing these terrorists, because the word "slave" is derived from slavic ethnicity and poor ukrainian terrorists need reparations?

https://www.youtube.com/embed/yGF6NC76MoU

[OddBeMe]

No idea. Any comment on American govt okay with slavery for so long? And I'm crowe

[OddBeMe]

*Jim crowe

[OddBeMe]

Guess not

[Danny_dan92]

The people that are entitled the reparations are all dead.




Black people today are so entitled, and think they have it bad when they have the same opportunities in life as everyone else. Whereas their ancestors dealt with slavery and segregation.




So no. Black people today aren’t owed shit, what they need to do is stop playing the victim, change their culture and emulate the lifestyle of successful black men and women.

[NaultD]

https://youtu.be/Et7zq7QLCfk?si=67iGshQEp1Dnk779

Your statement would hold water if history doesn't mean anything.

[Danny_dan92]

Did you really cite a fictional movie to counter what I said? Educate yourself

[NaultD]

Yes I did. Like every story ever told in history it's to be hyperbolic or extra in your face. Slaps you in the face in a way. While the fictional story or even the slap in the face isn't real. the feelings of being slapped on the face is all to real.

[OddBeMe]

Nothing said answers whether america is guilty of slavery and never repaid it

[Danny_dan92]

Repaid it? Slavery was abolished and then segregation was ended. Allowing black people to have the same opportunities and rights as everyone else

[OddBeMe]

Yes, like abusive spouses just stopping and courts are like..."a-ok!"

[Danny_dan92]

Ok, so you’re advocating for the government to hand out another millions worth of dollars to one demographic of people all because of the hardship their ancestors dealt with and not them.

When do you stop huh? Do we give all black people even future ones money? With your logic you’re implying we do.

Wtf do you think that will do to our debt problem? Also, are you willing for the government to tax everyone including YOU way more to make up for the increased cost?

[OddBeMe]

I don't know what reparations would be. But we've done none. We just stopped doing slavery. Yeah us! Such a low fcking barl

[Danny_dan92]

Ok, so you’re advocating for something that you don’t even know any examples of how it should be implemented. Does that sound like a good idea to you?

[AviatorTom]

The person in the picture is entitled to reparations... from the person that caused the injuries... but both of those people are dead.

Reparations are a bad idea.

[OddBeMe]

How about the govt that allowed it to happen for so long?

[AviatorTom]

@OddBeMe How about the tribal leaders in Africa who got paid to let their people be taken into slavery?

[DrPepper12]

Amen

[OddBeMe]

Sure them too. Does that mean US is innocent?

[AviatorTom]

@OddBeMe Not at all. It means there are many people, companies and governments that were involved in the slave trade, all of them dead. Let's learn from the past and move on.

[DJB72]

Reparations were paid by the 360,000 mostly White Union Soldiers who gave their lives to end slavery in the USA. Unless you plan to find a way to resurrect those young men to compensate their families for their loss the issue of "reparations" is pissing on the graves of every man who died to free slaves he never met.

[HighValue]

Do you mean reparations for all the crime, robbery, theft, vandalism, rape and murder that BLACK people have done for so long to all other groups in the USA? BLACK people commit more harm than EVERYONE else combined in the USA.

[beefcakebradybatson]

Yes, but who would get reparations, since slavery ended in 1865 and even official Jim Crow ended in 1968? There ARE and should be FAR MORE programs targeted to aid paupers to leave their condition (housing assistance, school programs, etc.) without assuming all blacks are poor.(About one-fifth are;many more are at least middle class.)

[FunkyMonkee]

Let's see, you want people that never owned slaves to give money to people who never were slaves? Okay, let's start with you giving me shitloads of money because my Irish ancestors were slaves before the blacks were.

[Mike_Whocheese_Harry]

Sure. Think of the number in your head for reparations, subtract out welfare and the cost of crime from the blacks and then you’ll have how much you owe. And since you on the left are the ones with white guilt, you’ll be paying.

[IamRight]

Let Demoncraps pay! Dems had slaves. Dems started the KKK. Republicans led by Lincoln stopped slavery.

[Friendlybro79]

You need to learn more about history and how the parties have changed since then.

1. The Parties in the Mid-19th Century
Republican Party (GOP): Founded in the 1850s with the primary goal of opposing the expansion of slavery. Abraham Lincoln was the first Republican president, and his party was responsible for the abolition of slavery and, initially, the push for civil rights during Reconstruction.
Democratic Party: The dominant party in the South, it was a pro-states'-rights, agrarian coalition that largely supported or defended the institution of slavery. After the Civil War, Southern Democrats implemented and enforced Jim Crow laws to disenfranchise Black citizens.

2. The Slow Shift (New Deal Era)
The first major shift occurred in the 1930s during the Great Depression. Democratic President Franklin D. Roosevelt's New Deal programs, which expanded the federal government's role in social welfare, began to attract new voters to the Democratic coalition, including many African Americans in Northern cities who had previously voted Republican, as well as labor unions and immigrants.

3. The Major Realignment (Civil Rights Movement)
The crucial turning point was the mid-20th century, specifically the 1960s, driven by the Civil Rights Movement:
Democratic Party's Shift: Democratic Presidents John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson championed landmark civil rights legislation, such as the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. This support for racial equality alienated many white Southern Democrats, who began leaving the party in droves.

Republican Party's Shift (The Southern Strategy): Republican strategists, particularly during the presidential campaigns of Barry Goldwater (1964) and Richard Nixon (1968), employed the "Southern Strategy". This involved using coded language (or "dog whistles") like "states' rights" and "law and order" to appeal to the racial grievances and social conservatism of these disaffected white Southern voters.

[IamRight]

@Friendlybro79 I know enough to hold dems responsible for what dems did, there being a shift is bullshit, the parties might have "changed" as in new people but dems are dems and no matter how many leftist textwalls you write will change that.

[IamRight]

Personally I don’t think we need reparations, if we have to, I say let the dems pay it!

[Friendlybro79]

I also hold the Dems responsible for not doing a great job in recent times. I also hold the republicans for not doing a great job either. Me and you can absolutely disagree with political philosophy and that's awesome. You're entitled your take on it just like I am. What I can say is we're in this together and I think we should all be better and not letting politicians divide us. Times are tough for all of us. We need to figure out solutions together. Republicans control the White House, Senate and Congress... They can make things better. The democrats can barely do anything to stop them anyway. So if they're doing great we should all feel it in our wallets. When that day comes, I will give credit to where it's due. But I can tell you I'm not doing better this year and nothing has gotten better since he took over for me personally.

[OddBeMe]

@Friendlybro79 redent times, like Reaganonomics?

[Friendlybro79]

Yeah as far back as then. Recent enough to me. I was too young to remember before then. I don't think either party has done enough tone better the lives of avg Americans in my entire life. We get crumbs at best and I want our tax money to work better for us and I'm sick of how we let them fight each other instead of holding all of them accountable. We need to end money in politics period.

[OddBeMe]

@Friendlybro79 how are dems responsible for Reaganonomics? Or allowing ths housing market to bust under Bush W?

[Friendlybro79]

@OddBeMe No I meant in my earlier post that I just blame both parties for not really doing a great job for most Americans. The Republicans in my opinion have not done a damn thing for avg Americans as far back as my entire life. Reagan was the first president I remember.

The Democrats throw us crumbs. They don't execute on the most popular policies Americans want. When polled we want universal healthcare, paid family leave, education.
, and higher min wage. When the Democrats had control of everything they didn't execute in these very popular policies. Too many establishment Democrats that are beholden to their donors don't care about the American people. Americans want these things and the Democrats haven't executed. I would rather vote for a Democrat but the old Democratic establishment aren't great and their status quo rhetoric cost us 2024

[DrPepper12]

Pinko commie Uber libtard here... It's the stupidest idea EVER other than elect a felon pedo rapist...

[exitseven]

Who pays the reparations? All my ancestors were in Italy when all this was going on.

[IamRight]

Democrats pay

[exitseven]

@IamRight I can get behind that

[OddBeMe]

Who pays for parents getting snap? Or go to school. I ain't got no kids.

[Staximus]

So basically people who never owned slaves paying people who never were slaves. Just the Democrats trying to use black people as a political tool again and buy their vote.

[Sal_Monella]

I support reparations for all living freed slaves in the United States

[BCRanger10]

You're still here?

[Levin]

Sorry mate. We're skint.

[Anonymous]

you can start by paying reparations first

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Lead by example. Go give money.

[Anonymous]

I suppose it's possible.