How is this an unpopular opinion regarding abortion?

[BCRanger10]

I found this while scrolling earlier...

How is this unpopular and more importantly, why?

What, do they think this some kind of own or slam dunk or something? Do they think guys like me would be against this? This is one thing that us pro-life conservatives have been saying for years. In fact, there's a word for what this post is talking about. Marriage.

Or did I miss something?

[OlderAndWiser]

I don't agree that a guy should be forced to marry a girl because he got her pregnant. IF you could do that, the couple would be miserable and the baby would suffer as a result. But I agree that both parents should be held financially responsible for supporting the child they created.

[Kaneki05]

It's unpopular because many men do leave single mothers as so and wouldn't abide to this law obviously and never have. And to try control men to abide such law? Well how many do you think don't pay child support? It's a lot so proof is right there that many men wouldn't follow this rule.

[BCRanger10]

Okay. So take the incentive and ability to leave then. And bring back things like honor and shame.

[Kaneki05]

Bad case of idealism we have here, men have being killing or leaving their sons since we existed thinking that will change... is idealism. Did you know Romans would leave their children to die to exposure for several reasons?
There is no such thing as honor and shame though people do like to play pretend even the romans pretended ya know being proud romans and that but reality is society has always leaned into getting rid of kids if it was deemed inconvenient.
You aren't going to suddenly change that by playing into idealism in fact likelihood more would happen in much worse ways that are kept in the dark, like how women had to get abortions by unsavory means in times it was seen as a sin. Often putting the woman at risk too leading to more death than less.

[SaoirseS]

Abortion isn't illegal, so why even bother with this discussion?

[BCRanger10]

It's a hypothetical.

[MasterKS]

@SaoirseS spot on, kudos.

[SaoirseS]

"I don't entertain hypotheticals, the world as it is is vexing enough." - Charles Portis, True Grit

[NaultD]

At 18 everyone has to do some kind of mandatory service. Military service could be one of them hopefully there would be more in a different sector but more or less then same set up.

A year out side of the home town bubble and meet different walks of life.

[NaultD]

Completely miss read everything. I thought it was what's your most unpopular opinion kind of discussion. My bad. Back on track.

What's the most common way for a pregnant women to die? The answer is murder. Parents or even baby daddy family killing the pregnant women for destroying the family line. Wedlock embarrassing families with god. Racist family. Then domestic violence.

[Joshydavid25]

Nope, because that's exactly how the Bible did things as well.. If a man had even had sex with a woman, he (by the decree of the father) had to marry the woman or take financial care of her for the rest of her life even if he didn't marry her.. So yeah, I do agree that a man who gets a woman pregnant is obligated to marry her.. Of course the government helped people to pervert men taking care of women by allowing them to abuse the child support system..

[NathanDavis]

I don't think this is about being "pro-life"

I think this is about being responsible... and accountable, it's about child-support...

[BCRanger10]

Right, so marriage.

[NathanDavis]

no... not everyone marries

and a whole lot of married people divorce

[NathanDavis]

married or not, there's still an obligation for biological parents

[BCRanger10]

"married or not, there's still an obligation for biological parents"

I agree, but wouldn't that also imply that people should know themselves better and be more deliberate, discerning, and selective about whom they have as partners?

[NathanDavis]

yeah... but that's why they're called deadbeat parents

and this post is aimed at them... the deadbeat parents and not the responsible parents in happy marriages

[BCRanger10]

Well that's where fixing and changing the culture would come in.

[NathanDavis]

no such thing... people are beasts, and beasts they will be...

some of them anyway

I mean, the Catholic Church has been trying for centuries now and they still have a lot of filthy criminals among their ranks and congregation, so... not even all the prayers in the world have helped that

[BCRanger10]

Well that's an entirely different discussion, which I'd be happy to entertain some other time or in DMs, but I appreciate your thoughts.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

I think it's a conversation we should be having more.

It's not hard to put on a condom... Like at all. It's not hard to pull out either.

I think we need to update old testament rules for equality tbh

[FunkyMonkee]

Sounds right to me. The only thing I'd be against is making abortion illegal. It just shouldn't be as easy as going to get a tattoo!!
"What? He got me pregnant? No problem, I'll just get an abortion."

[Summeroflove]

People want to have sex without consequences. Men and women…. I feel bad for the kids but I don’t feel sorry for the parents.

[WonderingManII]

I don't think you missed anything. If people would be kinder to each other, and marry each other before having sex, most of this issue would be solved.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

If I had my way, we'd put people to death for committing abortions.

[BCRanger10]

Believe it or not, there were popes in past centuries who made that exact argument.

[DonaldDarko]

Who knows, abortion should be used to filter out undesirable genes.

[Ariesman81]

This is how retarded women are.

It's literally "take my right to murder away and I'll make you pay"

[Anonymous]

The other side of that coin is, if abortion is legal, men should have the legal right to walk away from a woman he impregnated with zero liability, financial or otherwise.

[OddBeMe]

Id argue for a male abortion of the father relationship. Fairs fair.

[Anonymous]

Its not unpopular. Those kinds of women just want to justify their desire to murder babies.

[Miristheiss]

Well, a paternity test before ANYTHING.

[jshm2]

Because they are not the same thing.

[beefcakebradybatson]

I'll drink to that.

[Anonymous]

Try explaining that to religious fanatics.

[RavVid]

You missed zero.