Is this really self-defense or ongoing systematic brutality in Palestine?

[Lliam]

The zionist movement has been accelerating their methods of displacement across the West Bank and activating settler cells of violence. The Palestinian Ministry of Agriculture documented some $1.3 million in direct agricultural losses over a single week, the report catalogs a systematic campaign of destruction across West Bank governorates: the uprooting of hundreds of olive, almond, fig, and walnut trees; the bulldozing of cultivated land and irrigation networks; the demolition of agricultural rooms, wells, and animal shelters; the theft and killing of livestock; and the forced grazing of wheat and barley fields by settler herds.

[CalmUntilAbused]

Yeah, it's obviously the latter. The zionists have a long-standing tradition of violence towards literally anyone standing in their way, dating back go the times of Irgun and Lehi... And that's if we assume what the Maccabis did was righteous (which is doubtful at best).

[Lliam]

@CalmUntilAbused. Thank goodness for somebody here who is educated.
I appreciate your response to my question, sir.

[CalmUntilAbused]

@Lliam Thank You for Your appreciation, good Sir! I am sure there are topics we would not agree on, since outside of the Occupied Zone of Free Arab Palestine matters I am as much of a MAGA supporter as it gets (given that I am actually Polish), but You can always count on me when it comes to the Occupied Zone of Free Arab Palestine. And if You ever find out about the Chabad-Lubavitch, it's going to be a field day for me! 😂

[Sevenpointfive]

i think israel is trying to gerrymander the mideast into greater israel. the deadline is 2032.

[OlderAndWiser]

All we know is what is reported by the media? Is there any reason to think that information is trustworthy?

[lightbulb27]

what are they doing with the people then?

I think either answer is justifiable based upon ones viewoint. If one does not feel secure with the neighbor an easy answer is to destroy all their stuff and kick them out. USA is no stranger to that policy. The other ansewr is live in peace, which certain people violated on Oct 6 and going back millenia.

So Im to the point Id rather stay out of their family squabble. but if noone defends Palestine people and land space to exist, then there will be hell to pay for long time and in random places. Anger and hopelessness does not know a direction.

[Zack-Bann]

This endless stalemate has continuously claimed lives around the world since 1948.
It’s high time it ended for good.


No one with a conscience will ever truly love Israel but let’s not pretend like Palestinians were innocent victims.
Both sides fired shots
Both sides called for war
Both sides spread terror and famine to their neighbors


And for almost a hundred years anyone who’s closely familiar with this war knows: it only ends with total eradication, no peace is possible.


And I don’t think either side is more deserving of this victory than the other.
Because in either case the holy land will remain occupied.
But a decisive end to the conflict would bring about an era of peace and stability which will finally allow the middle east to thrive ever so slightly after what seemed like an endless nightmare

[FreyaRed]

"systematic brutality"? We should call it by the real name, systematic genocide

[Lliam]

@freyared. You're right.

[Sal_Monella]

Israel is a sliver the size of new jersey. They have a right and duty to protect themselves from foreign and domestic enemies. The Iranians are foreign enemies, The Palestinians are domestic enemies. It would have been better to deport them to the Sinai.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

The sooner the Palestinians leave Israel, the better. They don't belong there. Jews have lived there for around 13,000 years so the land belongs to the Jews.

[NathanDavis]

nothing is right at war... neither side are heroes

[noohair]

Lebanon was a Christian country until the Muslim population overtook the Christians. How is that any different than “Zionism”? Oh, I know, if the Jews do it, it is bad.

[Dargil]

Yes if I shoot you when you vandalize my home and injured my family, that is too

[CherryLove007]

Nobody will ever get along. Doom and gloom.

[beefcakebradybatson]

War crimes.

[blackeagle007]

Up for debate

[Pterodon]

Who gives a shit?

[Lliam]

People who aren't Satanic, Zionist psychopaths.

[Pterodon]

Hey they elected a terrorist organization funded by Iran to be their leaders. Shame on the Palestinians for being so stupid

[CalmUntilAbused]

@Pterodon Well, Likud is literally a descendant (through Herut) of Irgun, a Jewish terrorist organization from the times of Mandatory Palestine and responsible for the Deir Yassin massacre of Palestinians. Also, parts of Irgun and Lehi (another Jewish terrorist organization) were merged into the IDF. Technically, it's Hamas that is fighting back against terrorists.

[Pterodon]

No you’re not fighting back. You’re getting your ass handed to you

[CalmUntilAbused]

@Pterodon Well... I am Polish, I'm just saying the Palestinians are not the ones in the wrong here. Same with Iran, but I guess in their case, God Almighty Himself seems to be holding them together against a genocide attempt.

[Pterodon]

Well I think they are at fault

[CalmUntilAbused]

@Pterodon Well, this only shows You never heard of the deeds of Irgun and Lehi and what happened to these organizations upon the conception of the "state of Israel".

[Pterodon]

I don’t care. I read the Bible and I back Israel period

[CalmUntilAbused]

@Pterodon I guess You did not understand the Bible, then. Especially the New Testament.

[Pterodon]

No I know it very well I am a preachers kid and grew up in the church since birth

[CalmUntilAbused]

@Pterodon Well, if You understood it, You would know that You can kniw it and not understand it. The Juice knew the Book of Isaiah, yet they never understood it. Not even when His prophecies literally came to life.

[CalmUntilAbused]

know*

[Pterodon]

I’m not Jewish.

[CalmUntilAbused]

@Pterodon Well, You would fit right in. Knowing the Bible, yet not understanding it at the same time... Let's just day their "chosen ones" status was revoked...

[Pterodon]

I’m well aware. Better than you