3.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. They have the right but don't have the hardware.
Somehow those air missile systems Iran bought from Russia and Chinese Radars didn't work. Those new Chinese radars should have been so great that they could detect a B2 in 300km distance. Of course it was just wish think.
On the other hand Iran compensates it with deeps strike drones made of foam and plywood which are too slow for US made air defense and cost just peanuts compared with interceptor missiles.
It's good possible US runs out of Air defense missile soon since US production capabilities are ridiculously low, while Iran can produce those Shahed drones as long they have plywood, PVC foam, explosives and Chinese lawn mower engines.It wouldn't be the first time that quality loses against quanity
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1.7K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Yes they have right to defend themselves
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Asker4 moYou are welcome
6K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. 100% yes, and they are doing so efficiently.
Iran isn't evil. It is Israel that is evil and always has been.
I'm glad that Iran is eliminating U. S. capabilities for aggression in the region and bombing the fuck out of IzraHell. I hope if finishes the job.02 Reply
Asker4 moYour answer is great. I would have loved to choose it as MHO. I just wish you had shared it sooner.
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Why you support pedophilia, rape of married women, and homosexual gay ass banging orgies by black men pounding Muslim men's assholes like the night of the Al Zutt?
11.6K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Yes, I absolutely support their right to defend themselves. If that means that they're going to fight with the US then that's what's going to happen. I don't think they are required to roll over and play dead for us.
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4 moof course. they are a sovereign nation with borders drawn to define their nation. of course they have a right to defend themselves.
i don't particularly support Iran's government, treatment of its people, method of governing, but i can't argue that they have the right to defend their country
10 Reply 931 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. If they defended themselves by themselves I would have no issues with it
But every time things stir up, they trigger their proxy militias in the middle east to draw fire from Israel, effectively destroying counties that have no business being involved in that war, never asked for any of it, not getting anything from it.
So no. I would rather see Iran toppled and rebranded to end this endless cycle of senseless killing for everyone involved.
Including the Iranian people who are also hostages of their own tyrannical regime10 Reply- 2.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
4 moOnly if they get a nuclear weapon.
That is the only way to keep America, Israel, and others out of their affairs forever since nobody wants World War III.
Iran realistically isn’t going to nuke anybody. The whole crap about them making a nuclear weapon is just an excuse to keep beating them up relentlessly especially the fact America took a tomahawk missile to a school full of girls which killed over a hundred of innocent civilians trying to get an education. Those kids didn’t deserve any of this.
The World doesn’t want Iran to have a nuclear weapon because they would be treated as statehood on the world stage. They would open negotiations, talks, and be a world power. They don’t want that so, we have these skirmishes that cost innocent lives.
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But, Iran may give them to terrorist groups they sponsor, such as Houthis, Hamas, and Hezbollah, who would not hesitate to use them in some terrorist action, even against the US.
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@NoDecision No they won’t. If it makes them a respected power on the world stage then that is all they’ll ever need. Everyone knows if you use a nuke on an ally then you’ll get nuked right back.
We know this is fear mongering since we’ve seen this playbook time and time again.
Logic dictates that if someone is close to a nuke, bombarding them time and time again will probably encourage them to weaponize it so bring peace not war to their doorstep.
And I want to phrase that if Iran sold a nuke to a terrorist, they would need a way to weaponize it successfully to their targets which I doubt they have capacity for also we are so involved in The Middle East that it would be near impossible to happen without some raise of alarm. - 4 mo
The thing is, Iran has started several wars with Israel, such as the 12 day war, in which Iran got their butt kicked. They also were the ones who started raining missiles down on Israel. If they aren't shy to do that, what makes you think they won't try and annihilate Israel with nukes, or have their terrorist buddies - Hamas, Hezbollah, or the Fruities, do it?
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@NoDecision Okay 12 day war will give you that one.
As for the missiles, I don’t trust it since Israel had advance notice on Palestine having missiles also terrorist attack and allowed it as justification to do a lot of senseless killing and violence so could’ve been the same situation will have to brush up on that.
Hamas was put in power in Palestine only because they were the only ones promising stability and strength for their people, they weren’t elected to cause chaos same with Israelis electing Netanyahu.
The governments commit atrocities and the people suffer regardless what side they are on.
However with every conflict Palestinian Civilians die more so than Israelis, how is Israel not a terrorist state? I stand for all people and all places, however what happened in Gaza was what America did after 9/11. George Bush Jr justified his assaults and war crimes on the actions of a few, that wasn’t right either. - 4 mo
And you think the US killing hundreds of kids in Iran was any better than Israel defending themselves? Lots of countries have attacked Israel in sneak attacks - Egypt and Syria did that twice. And then Hamas. If you were in Israel, would you be expected to take it like a man or stand up to the bully and fight back? If Iran had nukes I'm pretty sure they would rain them down on Israel to get rid of them once in for all. As a matter of fact, in the last days a bunch of nations will march on Israel to do just that. Ane they will all be destroyed. You can read that yourself in Revelation in the Bible. Seems to me it would pay to be Israel's good buddy.
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@NoDecision US was wrong and is wrong, I hate both Israel and US actions in Middle East
I researched the 12 day war, I didn’t know it was last year and it was caused by Israel not Iran.
And I don’t care about what a 2,000 yr book says when we have video evidence, documentation, eye witness accounts and so on. Middle East has fucked up politics from foreign influence and hatred of the other side rather than coming together damn it. - 4 mo
Well right now things are looking bad, especially since Iran is targeting US flagged tankers in the strait of hell.
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4 moExcept the wording of the question is bad. Iran is shooting rockets at populated cities. iran is NOT DOING the "defend itself" +2 Iran is continuing terrorism METHODS even bombing a jew temple #synagogue. Like a mosque.
That bomb killed 9 jew civilians! +If you would ask "Do you support Iran’s right to shoot at invading jets" that would be "defending itself" and to that the answer was demonstrated in the successful film in 2014. American Sniper
2014, when "defense preserved TORTURE" then "defense is not justified" as demonstrated in film. The fact this bad wording was praised shows you know00 Reply - 3K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
4 moSure. Any country being attacked by external enemies has a right to defend itself. Whether I'm cheering for them to be successful is a different question.
Ukraine? Yes! They were minding their own business and threatening no one.
Iran? No! They are a brutal Authoritarian religious Theocracy who kill their own citizens and disfigure women for protesting their oppression. They also constantly meddle in the affairs of other countries in their region and disrupt global trade. I won't mourn their elimination from the world stage.
On a separate question, am I happy the US took it upon itself to be the world's police force again? No, not at all.
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Ukraine was literally committing a genocide of their own Russian-speaking citizens before the official war broke out.
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@CalmUntilAbused ,
Nice try Putin Bot but that lie was debunked years ago. - 4 mo
@OneViewpoint More like this fact was sweeped under the rug years ago.
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I'm Polish, so I have access to a bit more data about this, You know?
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@CalmUntilAbused
And I'm German and the amount of Russian-speaking Ukrainians that fled to Germany to escape that "genocide" is pretty much zero. However, the number of all Ukrainians having to flee Ukraine and coming to Germany because Russia bombed their cities, stole their possessions and raped their women, is around one million. - 4 mo
@DryGermanGuy I mean, to escape the genocide in Donbas and go to Germany, they would have to cross the whole Ukraine, a hostile territory. If they fled anywhere, they fled to Russia.
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Yeah sure. And my name is Donald Duck.
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Yes, defending themselves is a natural right. I don’t support the Ayatollah regime, but there is also the reality that wherever America intervenes in the Middle East, it doesn’t bring peace. When they entered Syria and Iraq, it resulted in nothing but more deaths. That’s why they should resist until the end.
The real disturbing question is this: do you support those idiotic blond-headed leaders who don’t even know what they’re doing, along with their friends who are butchers of women and children? It’s a shame. If I were an American soldier, I wouldn’t even know why or for what purpose I was fighting.10 Reply3.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Ha no, Islamic terrorists do not have such. They need to surrender or change ways to not be consider terrorists but last I checked they're a-okay with killing/prisoning women over not wearing hijabs and killing their own innocent civilians by mass shooting in the streets.
What's next Hitler had the right to defend himself? I am sure he argued that Germany was by it's actions against those who are Jewish.211 Reply- 4 mo
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@CalmUntilAbused these people are just sheep, they speak what their master tells them to.
They have no freedom at all
Yes they have the right to defend themselves. Do I think they should be throwing their little rockets around right now. Hell no. Not if preserving any of their past is a priority.. Just because you can do something doesn't mean it is always the correct thing to do and when facing down the barrel of gun shooting shots at the back row isn't going to be very successful for you.
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Back row meaning the civilian in Dubai or Israel etc.
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4 moYes. I only wish they'd bury the hatchet with the USA quick (though admittedly, the initiative would have to come from President Donald Trump since He is the one who initiated the hostilities). Now... I don't care what happens with the Occupied Zone of Free Arab Palestine, as long as no Palestinians get hurt.
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As if iran didn't shoot rockets at American bases before 2026? Iran did and funded terrorists who killed americans that "initiated the hostilities".
5.8K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. If it's described as a right in the question it's a given. Next question should be how?
North Korea has the privilege to be as monstrous as it wants with it's ability to artillery strike sol capital of south Korean. It's not about right or wrong but ability to do so. From there it works.
So iran is copying them. Bombing of the choke point and Bombing Dubai. Same logic but variable meaningful power.
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But bombing Dubai is terrorist method.
4 moSure. The majority of Iran doesn't support the Iranian government. Roughly 60% of Iranians are non Islamic at this point and 90% of the Iranian diaspora are non-Islamic, yet there is an oppressive Twelver Shia regime that is a minority of the Iranian population that is oppressing the country. The Iranian people have every right to defend themselves against the Twelver Shias and America and Israel are there to assist in that goal.
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Superb and clever i say 👍💯
2.8K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Lets clarify this. Is it Iran or the Islamic Revolution that is defending itself?
Iran does have elections but the Guardian Council is an unelected body that can disqualify any elected member and any real power rests with the Ayatollah.
I guess the Ayatollah/Guardian Council has the right to defend itself like any other drug/crime cartel has.
So by Iran do you mean the people or the regime currently in charge? The two are clearly different so which do you mean?
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It doesn't matter which of these things is meant. As long as it's comprised of people. People have a right to self-defense. Unconditionally. This includes people who have beliefs and religions that you dislike, whom or may have said things that you dislike. Those people still have a right to self-defense.
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@msc545 @msc545 I'm glad we can agree on that.
It's OK though, if I pay an aggrieved party who has been victimized by college students to do the shooting spree for me. Isn't it? Cause then I am innocent and entitled to defend myself.
That is an analogy of Iran with 19 terrorist groups that it sponsors/pays to conduct terrorism. All this style of argument circles into a mares nest of course. Your defense of yourself is also an attack on me from my viewpoint and I'm then entitled to defend myself. Circle, circle.
Defend equally means Attack. It is a value judgement as to which it is. The Islamic Revolution developing nuclear weapons is a cause of fear in at least it's neighbors and the US. I don't think that needs expansion.
Putin is defending Russia against Nato/Ukraine. Xi is defending China against Philippine fishermen. Khamenei is defending IR against something.
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I am not aware of19 terrorist groups that it (Iran) sponsors/pays to conduct terrorism. Do you have some actual evidence for that, or is that just one of those things that people say? Because if it's just one of those things that people say, and particularly if it's one of those things the United States government alleges. I'd like to see some convincing evidence that it's true.
You said " The Islamic Revolution developing nuclear weapons is a cause of fear in at least it's neighbors and the US. I don't think that needs expansion.'
To which I will respond: The United States possessing nuclear weapons is a cause of fear in at least its neighbors and many other countries. I don't think that needs expansion either. There is nothing safe about the United States or special about the United States that makes it a benign possessor or manufacturer of nuclear weapons. In fact, the United States is the most warlike country on the planet and has started more wars than any other country you can name, I believe.
4 moI sure do. And you can bet if they didn't have nukes before, they'll have them very soon now. I'd bet the farm on them putting one together right now. They were attacked and this is survival for them. The United States is only gonna stay until they run out of doritos. For Iran this is war to the knife and will. . . not. . . quit.
00 Reply12.1K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Every nation has the right to defend themselves. They have no right to prevail. And they have no right to conduct war over other people. Including the 900 plus Americans that they have already killed by Iran and its proxies in 50 years. And other nations including the United states, Israel, and many of the middle eastern states have a right to defend themselves against the pronouncements of Iran. Don't you agree with all this?
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However, that wasn't my question. You said Middle Eastern states have a right to defend themselves against the pronouncements of Iran. I want to remind you pronouncements are things that are said verbally you know with people's mouths? How do you propose to defend against that or did you mistype?
4 moAny country has a right to defend itself, but Iran, which was been one of the most evil, destructive regimes in the world, financing death and terror all over the world, should not be allowed to continue to exist as the same entity it was.
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@msc545 You obviously hate America. I do not! If America is so awful, then how come everybody wants to come here? You DARE to compare the United States with Iran, which murders women in the streets for wearing their hijabs wrong, and pays terrorists for killing innocent people going about theri business? You haven't the SLIGHTEST notion what you are talking about!
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Seriously want me to answer your questions? I sort of think you don't, but I think I will anyway.
People come here because they believe the lies that they're told about this place being wonderful. They come here and they find out that they're going to die of starvation in a gutter on the street if they don't make a certain amount of money doing jobs they're not allowed to do.
Do you really know what goes on in Iran? Have you ever been there, or do you just think you know because that's what the United States government has been telling you all these years? How many times have you been to Iran to see these things, and how long did you stay there? - 4 mo
@Keyboardkat good point!
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4 moYes, and the United States is helping them do it. They need help because they are being slaughtered by a handful of nutcases who rule with an iron grip. Those nutcases are not Iran. The people are Iran. They are the ones we are helping.
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4 moI do not hate Iranian women or children or humanitarians. Not everyone in Iran is cruel like the handful of bad bullies who run the show.
10 Reply 1.4K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I don't support any Muslims for any reason. I support the right of non Muslim Iranians to rid their country of the disease of Islam, though.
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With 99.5% of the population following a form of Islam, unfortunately impossible.
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@LazerBean stupidity at its best. Lol
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@DryGermanGuy that is definitely not true
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Huh? Have you actually talked to Iranians? Iran is one of the religiously most homogeneous countries. We might not know how many people are active worshippers, but on paper practically everyone is Muslim. That’s the result of their Islamic Revolution.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran?wprov=sfti1#Religion - 4 mo
@DryGermanGuy well people in US believe what their media tells them to.
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4 moAny dictatorship has no right to defend itself, but to unconditionally capitulate, especially to its own people!
USA, Israel, unleash hell on all the ayatollahs!05 Reply- 4 mo
Whoa, how are those local US bases doing, Mr Warmonger? Now, I feel bad for all the victims of those strikes, but it was an inevitable response for starting a kinetic war on the behalf of thr genocidal regime of the Occupied Zone of Free Arab Palestine.
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@CalmUntilAbused Those bases were located on the territory of other countries that were not involved in the conflict and from which no shots were fired at Iran.
Iran attacked 9 neutral countries, affecting their tourism on which they depend so much.
Even the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman consider entering the war against Iran on the side of the US and Israel.
Attacking foreign bases on the territory of other states is an attack on the sovereignty and security of those states!
Iran, I repeat, brought this upon itself!
Also, PALESTINE DOES NOT EXIST!
Israel is the native state in the world and Palestinians are migrants since the 7th century!
Palestine is a criminal and terrorist state, reckless, that does not consider the lives of its own citizens and their protection in any way! - 4 mo
Okay, I guess we have to agree to disagree, since Palestine very much does exist and Iran is innocent of this current war.
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@CalmUntilAbused We will agree that you are totally uninformed and that you are a total ignoramus!
There is only Israel.
Palestine never existed and is just a name assigned to a >region< but not a state.
And Iran is full of blood, Iran and Palestine must be eradicated as governing entities from the face of the earth!
Iran, either seriously revolts and overthrows its regime, or the bombings will continue until that country democratizes from the ashes!
Palestine is a terrorist region that must be annihilated.
Israel being the only truly democratic state in the Middle East! - 4 mo
@alexandrubaschet08 You are correct, the Occupied Zone of Free Arab Palestine is the only actually terrorist "state" in the Middle East.
1.3K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I don't' support the world's largest perpetrator of terrorism.
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@Bricealan so you don't support the US?
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4 moA country has the right to defend itself, but that doesn't involve attacking others.
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@msc545 Not at all. I'm saying that if country A attacks country B, country Has the right to defend itself by attacking country A's attacking forces, but it attacking other countries.
In Iran, for example, the IRGC has the right to try to shoot down Israeli and US planes, and to send drones and missiles against US warships in the area. However, It does not have the right to attack Qatar neighborhoods and the Dubai airport. - 4 mo
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4 moI mean... THEY provoked. But within their own borders, sure. But I don't support them attacking other countries
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Good distinction. I missed that. 👍
No, the Evil Iranian Regime should Surrender, Firing At Everyone is Not Defensive Action.
00 Reply3.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. What exactly do you mean by support them? Like send that money?
00 Reply27.1K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. sure, I'm sll for fighting back.
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Brilliant comeback clarification! 👍🏅
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4 moAgainst its own people?
00 Reply 728 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Of course I do.
00 Reply696 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. No, they should all repent or die!
00 Reply4.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Sure but they’re losing
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Anonymous(36-45)4 moMaybe? I’m not sure
00 Reply11.8K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Sure.
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Anonymous(36-45)4 moOf course I do.
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