Child marriage - good or bad?

[goaded]

The Taliban in Afghanistan just basically legalised child marriage. Terrible, right?

36 Oklahoma Republicans voted to block a ban on child marriage just last month, and more than 30 states still have none.

Women protesting against child marriage in Kabul. Photograph: Rukhshana Media

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oklahomawatch.org/.../ (Spoiler: Yes, all 36 votes against a recently passed bill that bans child marriage were cast by Republican lawmakers.)

But "both sides".

[loveslongnails]

The Republican Party is, in every sense of the word, the American Taliban. There is ABSOLUTELY no fucking difference.

[goaded]

Morally, no difference. Practically, they can still at least be voted out of existence.

[loveslongnails]

They could be theoretically, but there's little doubt in my mind they've already sabotaged the elections electronically, they gerrymandered the districts they knew they'd lose, they gutted the Voting Rights Act, and they will send ICE to key polling areas.

[msc545]

Not when they rig elections, they can't.

[Still-alive]

Downright evil

[goaded]

"Between 2000 and 2021, some 315,000 minors were legally married in the United States. The vast majority of child marriages (some 86%) were between a minor girl and an adult man."

[Still-alive]

This is what these fascist assholes want. To marry literal children!

[Horsegirly2001]

Thank you for demonstrating why these rapeugees shouldn't be allowed into the country.

Seven men have been accused of being part of a grooming gang and charged with rape and child sexual abuse offences, police said.

The Afghan nationals were charged as part of an investigation into group-based child sexual exploitation in Norwich, Norfolk police said. The men are accused of sexual offences committed between August 2023 and May 2025.

Police said five of the men had entered the country via a small boat, one concealed in a lorry and the seventh attempted to enter the UK clandestinely via Portsmouth ferry port.

The men appeared before Norwich magistrates court on Friday. All seven defendants were remanded in custody until a plea hearing at Norwich crown court on 19 June.

Supt Craig Miller said: “I know this news will be shocking to our communities. This type of case is very upsetting, and I want people living and working in Norwich, as well as the wider communities of Norfolk, to know that we will do everything possible to protect children from abuse and exploitation.”

The Crown Prosecution Service said the defendants were charged as follows:

Jamil Khalil, 20, of High Street, Dumbarton, Scotland, is charged with seven counts of rape, one count of human trafficking and one count of conspiracy to commit child sexual abuse.

Ahmadin Ahmadzai, 21, of Pottergate, Norwich, is charged with nine counts of rape, one count of human trafficking, two counts of conspiracy to commit child sexual abuse and one count of perverting the course of justice.

Qais Kaker, 20, of Black Horse Opening, Norwich, is charged with four counts of rape, one count of human trafficking, two counts of conspiracy to commit child sexual abuse and one count of perverting the course of justice.

Fazal Auryakhel, 20, of Eleanor Road, Norwich, is charged with one count of rape.

Mohammed Farooq Sinwary, 23, of St Benedict’s Street, Norwich, is charged with two counts of rape.

Ali Ahamad, 21, of Barnards Yard, Norwich, is charged with one count of rape and three counts of human trafficking.

Sayed Wahid Daviodzai, 20, of St Benedict’s Street, Norwich, is charged with four counts of rape and one count of conspiracy to commit child sexual abuse.

Norfolk police said officers raided seven addresses on Wednesday, six in Norwich and one in Dumbarton, Scotland, leading to seven arrests.

The Irish police force, Garda Síochána, arrested an eighth suspect in Ireland shortly after 7am on Friday 22 May. Appropriate legal processes will now be followed to seek the 19-year-old man’s return to the UK, Norfolk police said.

The charges relate to two alleged victims, who were aged in their early to mid-teens at the time of the alleged offences, the force said.

Norfolk police said none of the charged men have lived at asylum hotels in Norfolk and none of the alleged offending happened in asylum hotels.

The force said a “complex and sensitive investigation” began in September 2023 after a disclosure from a young girl.

Det Supt Stacey Murray, who is leading the investigation, said: “I want to reassure everyone that we are being meticulous in our approach to this investigation.”

[goaded]

Isn't it wonderful how no native British men commit crimes!

[Horsegirly2001]

So you think Britain doesn't have enough so we need to import people from countries where rape and gang rape are a cultural norm?

[goaded]

What does this have to do with the question?

[Still-alive]

this is just this person i presume is a troll of some maga right wing type on here demonstrating how islamaphobic they are for the rest of us to point and laugh at.

[Horsegirly2001]

@Still-alive no im a British citizen who can't walk the streets alone unless I've a dog because of the gang rape problem. Another 7 afgan migrants arrested this week alone.

[Horsegirly2001]

@goaded called a conversation.

You mentioned child marraige in Afghanistan and i mentioned the culture of rape in Afghanistan, unless you think a 10 bride can consent to intercourse.

[goaded]

@Still-alive Her profile says US, she claims to be British, so "she"'s obviously a liar (quite apart from the "can't walk the streets alone" bullshit). And she's ridiculously bigoted, thinking that all Afghans are likely rapists, ignoring that the vast majority are law-abiding and that any in the UK legally are probably there because they fought alongside British soldiers against the Taliban.

Hell, she even ignores the facts in her post: they were in the UK illegally (so neither asylum seekers nor "imported").

[Horsegirly2001]

Typical American, thinks the same laws in America are the same everywhere else.
there's a guy on here with hist nationality listed as Antarctica.
Very few Afgans fought the taliban if any, in fact most in the Afghan national army were in the taliban receiving NATO training or were there for a pay cheque.

If you cross the English channel in a rubber dinghy and dont have a passport even though you are ilegal the uk government will put you up in a hotel with 3 meals a day, money, free education, a phone, a laptop and gym membership.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g4x2zyer2o

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3e2wzpe7xjo

www.gmp.police.uk/.../

www.cps.gov.uk/.../two-teenagers-sentenced-rape-leamington-spa

www.theguardian.com/.../afghan-asylum-seekers-who-abducted-and-raped-teenage-girl-sentenced

[Horsegirly2001]

Analyses of police records—such as those published by UK Parliament Committees—have noted higher rates of reported offenses and charges among Afghan-born individuals compared to the UK-born average. For instance, one analysis based on 2021 Census data recorded nine sexual offense charges per 10,000 Afghan-born people, compared to 2.9 per 10,000 for UK-born

The evidence is there. Unless you are saying a 10 year old girl in Afghanistan can't consent to sex.

[goaded]

Really? People who've lived in a war zone for 20 years are rougher than people who haven't experienced any hardship in their lives? Amazing.

The problem with bigots like you is that you're ignoring the 9,991 in 10,000 Afghan-born people who are as innocent as the 9,997 UK-born. Lock up all 12 per 20,000. Job done.

Putting "Antarctica" shows you don't want to be specific. Putting US, like you, is just deceitful. Or is it being British you were lying about? Why are you pretending to be American?

[Horsegirly2001]

I haven't put anything. Its what came up automatically and I never corrected it.

The goverment statistics are there. They are 4 or 5 times more likely to commit rape and not just a rape singular but gang rape and multiple rape.

[Horsegirly2001]

Also weird you criticising child marraige in America while defending child marraige and rape in Afghanistan

[goaded]

Once again your own posts disprove your claims, and it's obvious to everyone that I'm not "defending child marraige and rape in Afghanistan", that's as absurd as everything else you say. Typical right-wing rage bait.

[Horsegirly2001]

Not absurd according to Parliament

[purplepoppy]

Let me guess, the American argument supporting child marriage was it's in the bible and Mary was under 18 combined with some crap there's nothing opposing it in the constitution and probably something about how the founding fathers were banging 14 year olds

[goaded]

Well, "the government should not interfere with parents’ rights", "the bill would impede the creation of stable families", one of them knew people who who married as minors and “remained married until they’re dead.”. oklahomawatch.org/.../

Previously, the law "allowed minors to marry with parental consent and court approval".

Is Gretna Green still a thing?

[purplepoppy]

Gretna green is more a novelty these days. Under English law you could marry at 16 with parental consent but in Scotland you didn't need consent. Gretna just happened to be conveniently over the border. I'm not sure what the current law is.

[Still-alive]

I just love how these pieces of human excrements defend their pedofilic ways under the guise of protecting them smh. They try to make it sound almost noble

[RavVid]

I have no idea being non-US. However is this associated with the Age of Consent being 16 in some US states? 16 is a fairly common age of consent though I think if we take 18 yo as adult can vote sign contracts etc etc than that should be the age of consent.

Obviously if a 16 yo can validly give consent to sex then she can get herself knocked up. A 16 yo could get married in my country with just parental consent previously but now it requires parental consent and a magistrates order. The party to the marriage must be over 18. Obvious reasons for a magistrate order being required.

So is this the situation here with Oklahoma or entirely different? Curious.

[goaded]

To be clear, the Oklahoma bill passed.

"The age of consent in Oklahoma is 18. Romeo and Juliet laws apply to minors aged 16 or older if the older person is not more than 4 years older." en.wikipedia.org/.../Age_of_consent_in_the_United_States

The argument for the tightening of the law is that "in addition to high rates of abuse, child marriage undermines statutory rape laws by legalizing what would otherwise be considered sex crimes. [Proponents] also argued that because minors lack the legal rights of adults, child marriage can easily become forced, and that minors face immense barriers to leaving such a marriage." oklahomawatch.org/.../

What's lost by at most a couple of years wait to get married? If she's going to change her mind in that time, the marriage shouldn't have taken place.

[RavVid]

Oh I 'd agree with that alright. It is not OK for forced arranged marriages in childhood and some cultures would do that. In some there are arrangements made before a girl is even born.

[DryGermanGuy]

This barbaric nonsense should have been outlawed 150 years ago.

[goaded]

I can see, perhaps, an exception for a similar aged couples getting married with all parents agreeing, but that's not what was at issue.

[Agape93]

Ahhhh Islam. Continuing the tradition of raping children because their pedo prophet Mohammed (curse be upon him) did it

[goaded]

There have been 300,000 child marriages in the US over 18 years, 86% of them adult men marrying children. 30 states don't have laws protecting under 18s from marriage.

[Agape93]

That's part of why the newsroom called the gop the American taliban

[demonics]

Only for white people. The Mexicans and Mohammeds are our superiors and thus shouldn't be beholden to our unenlightened laws.

[goaded]

Most amusing. Ha ha.

[msc545]

It's very bad, but in general, marriage is very bad.

[msc545]

And yeah, it's Oklahoma where people marry their siblings, so what the hell did you expect?