Is X (Twitter) the most uncensored and accurate mirror of public opinion today?

[genericname85]

twitter is basically the least censored platform out there. it's the only platform where people can say what they think even if it's not right and not polite. that opens the door for assholes and extremists but that is the price we have to pay to see reality don't you think? or is there another plattform that can more realisticly depict what the average joe actually thinks? i think all the other platforms are basically woke washed to be advertiser friendly.

i'm not saying twitter is a "good" platform. i'm just saying it depicts the ugly face of reality the best.

[Effably]

Gosh no.

Twitter, unlike many other social media, has included political leaning in its algorithm.

This means that on twitter a right leaning post is several times more likely to be pushed by the algorithm than a similarly left leaning one. Basically if you say tax bad the website adds a megaphone and if you say tax sometimes good it does not.

Extensive research has been done on this and it is basically safe to claim as fact. This is a out as confirmed as it can get. Quantiative research as well as direct confirmation from X.

The outcome is naturally that if you are, especially on the more extreme end, right leaning then Twitter, X, will seem the most accurate because it moderates more heavily than any other media in an effort to promote the right leaning views.

But no. It is one of the most heavily censored social media there is. Even GAG would be a better mirror.

[genericname85]

i think it's insane to claim that no other platform has a plitical leaning. they very obviously do. i don't know if twitter is "right leaning" though or if it's actually more neutral so showin more right leaning stuff in effect than the other plattforms that in my opinion are clearly left leaning.

[Effably]

Never did I claim there is no political leaning. Had I done so I agree that would be insane. I did not.

Take Reddit for example. Reddit does not promote one or the other to any extent at all but Reddit is fiercely left leaning as a community. Although there are plenty of thriving right-side communities there too.

Twitter is not leaning right. Twitter is literally programmed to promote right wing opinions. That is very different and what I was pointing out.

Other popular social media does not do that. They may get a left or right following but they do not rewrite the programming to manipulate which side is promoted. Twitter does.

The fact that Twitter manipulates it themselves to promote right-wing views makes it one of the absolute worst representations of societial views in politics.

You can lean whichever way you like. Twitter is however not the best but probably the worst among all the major ones as far as accuracy goes.

[genericname85]

Good that you don't actually think that. I wasn't trying to straw man you there. In my opinion, reddit is one of these very left, very woke platforms like Facebook too. I don't know that twitter promotes right wing options. It would make sense cause Elon owns the thing but do you have evidence or of roof for that?

[genericname85]

Proof*

[Effably]

www.theguardian.com/.../twitter-admits-bias-in-algorithm-for-rightwing-politicians-and-news-outlets here you go. A hundred more of those. I figured The Guardian is a good source but you'd find a similar article in any newspaper you like as it was big news at the time. I thought about linking a more recent study but I figure Twitter just admitting it with data is better if you're questioning how true my claim is.

Six to seven times more amplification for right wing. Again, literally no other place does this. Reddit for example has no amplification at all politically, neither does facebook. So just to answer your original question again X (Twitter) is the worst real life representation of politics among all the large social media. Lying at a 6x to 7x rate in a mear 50/50 setup is an insane misrepresentation.

[genericname85]

i don't think a left leaning source would be adequate to use as proof that something else is right leaning. actually i'd consider it as sort of evidence to the contrary. and the "source" for their claim they linked leads to some ai site. so I don't know man. not saying it can't be true. just saying these sources don't seem reliable to me.

[Effably]

Surely you are joking? It is literal admittance from Twitter.

If you prefer a different publication that is easy. Nearly all of them published it as it was considered big news.

Add in things like Elon Musk's constant comments on trying to make Grok not correct incorrect right-wing statements.

Anyway. This isn't really up for debate. It is fact that Twitter is altering their site to promote one side. Something so drastic that no one else does it. Outside of say, China's and North korea's government.

I am sorry to burst your bubble about the echo chamber you prefer. But that is all it is. A safe space that dramatically boosts right wing ideologies visibility. That's okay. People can have that. You should know it does that.

[Levin]

Well, it's all very telling that in socialist newspapers such as the Guardian and the BBC, they don't allow people to voice their views (except very safe topics).

Twitter has to be commended for not cutting off a man's tongue.

Of course, it is hated by the left, because the dirty unwashed should not be allowed to voice their unpalatable plebby opinions!

[genericname85]

People who make their ideas their identity have big difficulties being exposed to opposing ideas. It is what it is.

[Anonymous]

I would have thought artificial intelligence bot accounts are common on X that write spam or write comments to try and influence public discourse or public opinions upon real people.

[genericname85]

That's the same everywhere isn't it? Have you heard of dead Internet theory? It projects that the Internet will not be populated by actual people soo, cause already over 50% of all interactions online are bots.

[Opinion Owner]

With Reddit they have karma points and that helps filter out bot accounts.
I don’t believe they have that on X.

[Opinion Owner]

I don’t believe the karma points gets rid of all the bots it just decreases the amount of bots

[Opinion Owner]

Since Reddit has karma points which makes it harder for AI bots to operate I would assume it’s likely Reddit is a better place than X when looking for an accurate mirror of public opinion.

[genericname85]

I still think reddit is quite a woke washed left leaning plattform. Not at all representative of a broader population.

[Opinion Owner]

The percentage of AI bot accounts is lower on Reddit

[genericname85]

Maybe. But does that say anything about a particular political bias or not?

[Opinion Owner]

I don’t know about political biases I’m just saying it’s more likely on Reddit than X you are reading comments that real people have typed out.

[genericname85]

I'm just saying this cause my question is which platform is most representative of actual public opinions. And I think it doesn't matter if the opinions come from bots or from real people if they accurately depict what actual people think.

[Opinion Owner]

Some of those bots accounts may be coming from a forgein country like Russia for example trying to push pro kremlin narratives and propaganda.
I remember hearing this report that some American YouTubers and podcasters were being paid by Russia

[genericname85]

Yeah could be. I guess the question is how do we even know what is true and actually representative then.

[Opinion Owner]

We don’t really know for sure we can only just assume.

[genericname85]

Yeah and my assumption based on my observation is that people in real life tend to be more balanced. Like there's centrist people, there's far right and far left extremists. And I think twitter seems to be the Plattform where you see all of the extremes and the center most. While other platforms like reddit or Facebook gives you more of the left extremes and Less of the right extremes.

[Opinion Owner]

There is something called the bandwagon effect though. This basically means there are people out there who will speak or act a certain way just because they saw or heard other people doing it.

[genericname85]

Sure. But nevertheless it's their opinion right? Doesn't matter the origin if that's what you currently stand for.

[FreyaRed]

No. It's just differently censored as it was woke but it still is. Posts about Israel's role in middle east conflict will disappear very soon, especially if you have hit a nerve.

[bolverk]

I'd agree with you that X/Twitter has become one of the least censored platforms available after Musk bought it, which is why the UK government is doing its damndest to shut down access to it leaving the legacy MSM as supposedly "trusted" media, which few here in the UK believe to be the case. We know damn well that the legacy MSM is something not to be trusted as it no longer shows both sides of a issue, while X/Twitter which is by no means perfect, lets all sides have a say. It is for that very reason that UK government is doing its damndest to shut down access, because they do not want any information that doesn’t fit their narrative getting any publicity at all, this is why Members of Parliament Lisa Nandy and Lucy Powell are leading a full-scale assault on freedom of speech online because they do not like the British public criticising, Lisa Nandy running away from X/Twitter because she cannot stand criticism, and Lucy Powell is wanting X/Twitter blocked because that is how details of the Pakistani Rape Gangs got out to the Public, while The UK Governments (both Lab/Con), The Police, Social Services, The Court System, Local Councils & Councillors, MP’s, The Media, they ALL Knew what was going on, and covered it up. They were ALL complicit in letting the Pakistani Rape Gangs get away with what they were doing!

IF IT WAS NOT FOR X/TWITTER THE UK PUBLIC WOULD STILL BE IN THE DARK ABOUT IT.

AND THAT IS WHY THE GOVERNMENT AND THE LEFT IN THE UK HATE X/TWITTER, BECAUSE THEY LITERALLY CANNOT CONTROL IT.

[KostasKouvalis]

Considering you can literally post porn on there, I will say YES

[genericname85]

Lol that's one way of defining "uncensored" xD but you can on reddit as well.

[KostasKouvalis]

You can, that is true. But you can't complain about minorities

[BadApple69]

I agree. X is the least censored. If you want to see censored go on Reddit and say something good about President Trump or just disagree with someone who is bashing the president. Instant post delete and banned lol

[genericname85]

yeah. i mean even here. say the wrong thing and have the wrong mod see it and your coments and questions get deleted and your account gets frozen even if what you say isn't against tos.

[exitseven]

I have never been on Twitter so it is hard to say. I know that it was heavily censored before Elon musk bought it. I heard that it was better now and liberals complain that they are exposed to conservatism that previously was censored.

[genericname85]

Yeah basically every alternative is still that badly censored. And yeah. People who live in their bubble tend to be shocked when confronted with ideas outside of that bubble.

[genericname85]

It's almost like people grew up in safe spaces.

[OneViewpoint]

X? Twitter? You mean White Power Central run by the South African champion for Apartheid?

No.

[genericname85]

Well better than communist central who gives all the power to Muslim and African terrorists and scammers tbh xD

[AviatorTom]

No social media is completely uncensored and accurate.

[genericname85]

Agreed but I think there's better and worse ones

[AviatorTom]

@genericname85 I agree with you, but that's not what the question asked.

[genericname85]

i was simply observing that twitter seems to be less censored. not saying anything about accuracy but i presume that this facilitates a more fitting reflection of peoples actual opinions in real life rather than the censored manufactored consent on other media.

[_Jenny_]

@genericname85 I’m not sure, but they blocked Trump

[genericname85]

lol yeah. yet some other person commenting said it's "just a bunch of republiccans shouting more". wonder how that facts fits in their logic.

[Anonymous]

No. Just a bunch of republicans shouting anymore. I don’t even look at the site because of right wing nutbats

[genericname85]

how did you reach that conclusion when not even looking at the site?

[Mike_Hum]

The extremists are on highly moderated sites as the opposing voices get removed or banned

[genericname85]

yeah the logic makes sense. though i am not aware of any plattform that highly moderates left wing extremist voices.

[beefcakebradybatson]

And the source of much unadulterated hatred.

[genericname85]

That's the consequence of accepting freedom of speech. You can't have freedom of speech and not be exposed to speech you don't like at the same time.

[Badtobad]

Lol it's just as censored as Facebook.

[genericname85]

is it though? i see a lot more extrme shit and violence on twitter than on facebook.

[ThisSiteSux]

Absolutely. it certainly isn't this trash app.