"Anyone who wants to have a kid in the US is a selfish asshole who just wants a mini me." Thoughts on this statement?

[Kingofkings1992]

Agree

Disagree

Other ( see my comment)

A total of 21 votes were cast: 3 girls and 18 guys. See detailed results

[DryGermanGuy]

Not necessarily, but someone who hopefully has enough money for child medical care.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/aNghg1Y-WIc

[Kingofkings1992]

I know it. Get that numbskull @exitseven to watch this. Lol

[DryGermanGuy]

The guy is so far gone into the rabbit hole, anything challenging his belief system is of course propaganda by the socialists, communists and globalists.

[Kingofkings1992]

@apple1996

[Miristheiss]

Birth control pills and the end of families and people just having sex with anyone and everyone without marriage or families, no fault divorce and normalizing divorce because "I am just not happy anymore" and mass immigration from 3rd world countries is the end of this country.

[Apple1996]

Nah kids in the US are spoiled because they have so many luxuries

[OlderAndWiser]

Sounds like more leftist self-hating pablum.

[canamlusciouslad73]

Sounds like truth, OAS. Try it sometime, you may learn to like it !!!

[OlderAndWiser]

@canamlusciouslad73 A bald assertion, not bolstered by any attempt at reasoning, scarcely qualifies as truth.

[canamlusciouslad73]

Says you, pardner.

[OlderAndWiser]

@canamlusciouslad73 Says me and other think people. . . and I am not your "pardner" or partner.

[canamlusciouslad73]

I'm a hot older, brainy black cowboy who's seen a lot of America's flagrant hypocrisy from my Windsor, Ont., bailiwick... and since you aren't a buxom blonde, you'd NEVER be my partner, boy-o !!!

[OlderAndWiser]

@canamlusciouslad73 "you'd NEVER be my partner, boy-o !!!" Says the guy who called me "pardner." Grow up.

[loveslongnails]

Bringing a child into the USA right now is really bad decision,, in my opinion. The list of reasons is quite long, everything from maternal and infant mortality rates to cost to quality of life: food source, water, education or rather the lack thereof, a fascist government, healthcare failings, housing, did I mention food sourcing and education? Oh yeah, I did. There's no advantage, or sense at this point, to having a child in the USA, as I see it. Let the magats howl now! LOL

[Kingofkings1992]

I agree with you. It honestly blows my mind that people are still doing it

[DryGermanGuy]

https://youtu.be/ZmB0_bU695Y?si=natcEQBDOsCtfSvo

[jshm2]

It's something an American blue hair would say... then complain why they can't find plumbers, mechanics or workers

[Kingofkings1992]

Lol, nope

[exitseven]

The US is the best country in the world. Why do you think that there is tourist births?

[Kingofkings1992]

Why do we rank near the bottom in nearly every single quality of life demographic? Housing affordability, healthcare affordability, work- life balance, etc. We have the best military, that's about it

[exitseven]

we have the best healthcare. Why do all the rich people come from all over the world to go to American hospitsls? It is true that Americans work too much.

[DryGermanGuy]

You have never been to another country! So what the fuck do you know!

[Kingofkings1992]

@exitseven exit, please tell me you are joking, right? We have by a mile the worst healthcare system in the world. No other developed nation has a corrupt healthcare system. Why do you think so many Americans are going to Mexico to get their dental work done? Because it's about 1/6 the cost

[exitseven]

@Kingofkings1992 Our healthcare is the best. I was experiencing leg pain last year and the doc determined I needed a hip replacement. I had to wait only 4 weeks and got it done and I went home the next day. I had home health care. a couple of follow up office visits. and 12 weeks of Physical Therapy. It cost me a 20 dollar copay.
The way to get good healthcare is to have good insurance. Like anything else in life you get what you pay for.
Elective surgery in most countries make you wait for years before you get the surgery. and the treatment is not as advanced. In the US we have access to cutting edge technology that you cannot get in Mexico.

[Kingofkings1992]

@exitseven you truly are an idiot exit

[FrodoSkywalker007]

@exitseven the US does lead Healthcare, and most significant significant type of treatments happen here.
It's why Canadians go across the border for any serious treatment.
The issue is expenses.

[exitseven]

@FrodoSkywalker007 like everything else in life , you get what you pay for.

[loveslongnails]

The US has specific areas of only certain specialized things that draw world wide attention. You really are clueless when it comes to knowing anything about general healthcare in the USA, but then, you're pretty clueless in general.

[FrodoSkywalker007]

@loveslongnails that's rich coming from a guy who has so far ran away from every debate with me.

Do you deny Canadians cross the border for significant treatments, and issues with wait times? Do you deny the biggest issue in the US health industry is expenses?

[loveslongnails]

@FrodoSkywalker007 I don't "debate" with you because you don't usually make sense. You think you do because grab on to a talking point that is usually incorrect, so it's a waste of my time.

The USA does ONE thing well when it comes to healthcare: treatments of certain specific diseases and more complex operations. I've ALWAYS said that and known that - my S. O. works in the industry, which is where I get my FACTS. I don't "deny" Canadiens come to the USA to pay out of pocket for treatment of certain ailments they don't want to wait for in Canada. The last numbers were about 45,000 annually, but they've been boycotting all things US for the past year, so who knows for 2025. The "wait time" problem involves what Canada considers "essential and immediate care". I think their interpretation is too strict, but it's based too on availability. Many US patients defer treatments of ailments that are available in a less time because they can't afford the out of pocket expense. Two separate systems, two failing approaches.

No, the biggest issue in the US health industry is NOT "expenses", and by that, I THINK you mean "costs"? No sir, that's the bullshit they want you to believe. The BIGGEST problem is greed, otherwise known as insurance companies. Without that, you could have a single payer system like every OTHER civilized nation has, but that's way too close to "socialized medicine" for you and your ilk.

So once again, you're just parroting back to me the false doggie whistle you're trained to answer. "Expenses" are NOT the effin problem. It doesn't cost $145 for a lab to run standard blood work but that's what the lab charges the insurance company. Go to any other country in the EU and walk in, pay out of pocket, and it costs between $25 and $50, and you get the results in 15 minutes. GREED is your problem; healthcare for PROFIT, not people, is your biggest issue.

[FrodoSkywalker007]

@loveslongnails so once again proving my point.
Greed. Costs. Seems a bit intertwined.
Why type all that just to agree with me?

[loveslongnails]

typo : you grab on to. And that's sort of "two things" the USA does well... specific disease treatment and complex operations.

[FrodoSkywalker007]

@loveslongnails cool. Why type all that to agree with my point?

[FrodoSkywalker007]

@loveslongnails it's embarrassing friend. You've already lost and give up on at least 2 debates with me. Now, you want to play a semantics game when we both agree on the topic.
Then you want to put words into my mouth because you assume I'm MAGA and supportive of the system. It's quite funny.

[loveslongnails]

@FrodoSkywalker007 Because you assume way too much. You think expenses and costs are the same and actually represent a number that justifies the charges, when they're not. Your terminology is sloppy, which leads to your sloppy understanding of what "health CARE" is really about. Doing two things well, on the high end of the scale, does not mean you're great at health care. The USA spends the MOST money of any industrialized nation on "healthcare" with the WORST outcomes.

[FrodoSkywalker007]

@loveslongnails let's look at 2 realities.
I used the term expenses, because in my condition it is what it represents. My health collapse brought some significant expenses.
If you dislike my use of the word, and prefer the word cost, fine? It's a semantics game.

Second, who is the lead funder of health and biomedical research in the world. Who funds researchers, programs, and various other things throughout the world?

Your issue (as always) is the inability to see the bigger picture.

[loveslongnails]

@FrodoSkywalker007 You sound like a trumper most often. I know you consider yourself more sophisticated than that, but mostly you regurgitate talking points. I don't care what you think you've "won"... that's truly funny. You present a statistical fact, ask me if I deny it, and when I say "no, it's a fact", you think you've "won a debate"? LOL

It's also a statistical fact that many Americans to to Canada or Mexico for eye treatments and dental work because it costs a fraction of what they'd be charged in the USA. It's a fact. If I say "Do you deny it" and you say "no", did I WIN a debate? LOL. Duh. You agreed with a fact. Big goddamn deal.

[FrodoSkywalker007]

@loveslongnails I never claimed to win this particular thread. If you read what I said, I stated we both agree and you attacked me with semantics.

Let's remember, you started the conversation with calling me clueless. Which I considered very ironic for a man who ran off in our previous debates on Iran.

[loveslongnails]

@FrodoSkywalker007 As I said, I'm not debating you. I stated my position on Iran and the US and their ongoing 70+ year cold/hot war scenarios. Asking misleading questions like "Do I think the US has a right to defend itself" without addressing the previous 70 years is not a hook I'm going to bite on. There's no debate. You think the US has a "right" to do what they're doing. I say it's bullshit and those who think so are clueless. It's fine if you think the same of my opinion, but again, I'm not going back in time to discuss "who did what when and why". So... thanks!!

[FrodoSkywalker007]

@loveslongnails and yet you decided to debate it.

[Kingofkings1992]

@FrodoSkywalker007 @loveslongnails damn you two left me with a lot of notifications lol

[Enginn]

Whats selfish about it? Taking care of your kid isn't selfish

[canamlusciouslad73]

Kinda, and AmericKKKa IS failing !!!

[Kingofkings1992]

100 percent 💯

[canamlusciouslad73]

YEAH, BUDDY !!!

[fishbone77]

lol. Anyone who thinks this is a mental toddler.

[FrodoSkywalker007]

Dumb

[Kingofkings1992]

I know you are

[FrodoSkywalker007]

thanks