Has Trump’s Iran strategy actually been a major success?

[Anonymous]

Do you think Trump's Iran war has been a major success?

Yes it has been a major success

No it hasn't been a success

A total of 18 votes were cast: 5 girls and 13 guys. See detailed results

[BonzoInBitburg]

Obviously not. The US is no closer to winning this war than they were when they started. Iran might be bombed to bits but they're still there and now run by someone worse than the one they killed. If they weren't winning they wouldn't have to listen to Iran's demands and take them seriously.

[FrodoSkywalker007]

No one is listening to Iranian demands.
The bombing is continuing today

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IRAN COASTLINE EXPLODES FROM US ATTACKS, MISSILE ATTACK ON POLAND! Breaking War News The Enforcer / The Enforcer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loDB7Wj0BpY

[FrodoSkywalker007]

The issue is regime change.
So far, the US (Trump specifically) doesn't see it as necessary. The Israelis recognized it as necessary from the beginning.
Eventually Trump will need to recognize its the only path forward.

[FrodoSkywalker007]

I'll also say I doubt the MOU was ever serious. It would be political suicide for both sides. Iran broke it because they couldn't manage it at home. Trump likely knew it wouldn't pass, and used it to prove Iran was not capable of negotiating. Now he is working on the slow choking of the regime that will continue to degrade and destroy from inside and out.

Regime change is necessary

[BonzoInBitburg]

Everyone knows that Trump doesn't have the balls to commit US troops for regime change. That would take decades of military commitment. If he actually thinks slow choking the regime will work then he's an idiot who doesn't understand Iranians. They've got all the time in the world and they are fully aware that if this drags on for a couple more months the Republicans can lose both the House and the Senate and Trump's a lame duck. Especially now that China is supplying and supporting them, they are emboldened. Iran is helping China by dragging this out and depleting US weaponry so that when the time is right China can take back Taiwan without a fight. Checkmate

[FrodoSkywalker007]

Actually most Iranians support regime change
gamaan.org/.../
Reza Pahlavi has offered to be interrrim leader.
The US doesn't have to make ground commitments.
It only needs to fund and support the insurgency.
Iran has already suffered extreme military degradation. They also have pro regime supporters protesting against them.

LIVE: Iranians RISE UP To Stop Public Execution Of Protesters By IRGC - Clashes In Isfahan / Tousi TV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzNiWTn2Xq8

[FrodoSkywalker007]

It's hard to judge.

From a military standpoint the USA and Israel have dominated.

From a propaganda standpoint the war has been divisive from the beginning.

Iran can't fight off the USA, but it can cause chaos. That's why it launches at tankers and civilian areas in the gulf.

So far, Trump has been unwilling to accept regime change as an option. It's very well possible that his hand will be forced. in my opinion, it's the only option to achieve his major goals.

[FrodoSkywalker007]

I will say that in my own opinion Trump has played too many games. He has micromanaged everything and made questionable decisions (like the MOU). I would have trusted many past leaders to do things a bit better. He also makes a fool of himself on social media. I'm also upset he hasn't considered regime change. He seems to believe he can force Iran to concede. It will likely require regime change. Even if Iran signs off on all of Trumps demands, they have a history of breaking agreements.

[Asker]

Should the war be about Trump or the people in general do you think?

[FrodoSkywalker007]

The war should be about regime change.
That is in the best interest of all.

[strateguy632]

a. "hasn't been a success"
b. "has been a success"

c. "has been a major" success

d. "hasn't been a major" success,

would be a real poll.

[Lliam]

On the contrary, it has been a major disaster.

[exitseven]

By most metrics it is an outstanding success but without a complete surrender it is not a win.

[RareBreedOfMan]

No, all it does is raise gas prices.

[lilBigPotato]

Obviously not.

[FrodoSkywalker007]

Regime change. Strangle the nation to death.
Most Iranians desire it gamaan.org/.../

Trump seems to be playing a slow game. Strategic strikes, economic strangulation, decimating proxies (such as Lebanon deal).
Not as bombastic as other collapses.

[FrodoSkywalker007]

Oil futures have also. held steady at $84 to $90 last time I checked. CENTCOM has released over 900 vessels.
It's a far cry from $125 back in 2012 when Iran threatened the strait. So, it seems the market trusts Trump.
US forces are once again bombing Iran
Right after Trump met Netanyahu
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IRAN COASTLINE EXPLODES FROM US ATTACKS, MISSILE ATTACK ON POLAND! Breaking War News The Enforcer / The Enforcer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loDB7Wj0BpY

[lilBigPotato]

@FrodoSkywalker007 we had this discussion already once, will not start it again. It will lead to nowhere. You know where you find my opinion on this if you feel like reading it again.

[FrodoSkywalker007]

Right 😂 forgot.

[Agape93]

Lmao

[Asker]

What's so funny