Should abortion be banned in America?

[Melanie31]

I think it absolutely should be banned. Because abortion is against religion. It's a great sin. What do you think?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Yes. Anyone that supports abortions is also a murderer at heart.

Only a devil wants to kill a developing baby.

[abc3643]

Don't be an idiot. It's very unbecoming. No bidy wants to kill babies.

[Clara4567]

Then I really love to be a Devil.

[Iron_Man]

Absolutely I’m pro life

[Iron_Man]

Thank you so much Melanie for most helpful award awesome 😊

[Clara4567]

No, abortion is a right that every woman should have. If you don't want to abort it is ok it is your choice, but you can't ban that. Religion is a human costruction and it shoudn't dictate laws, abortion is a human right, not a religious concept.

[FreyaRed]

Depend what religion. Some religions and ideologies allow it others don't do, but why should those religions who forbid abortions stand above other religions?

[fishbone77]

No, murdering a person is a universal illegal and immoral act.

[FreyaRed]

Where the """Person""" starts is the question. That's why most countries have 12 week compromise law for abortions.

[fishbone77]

The person starts at conception. This isn't a debate.

[FreyaRed]

It's a religious dogma and dogmas aren't allowed in modern societies.

[fishbone77]

It's a scientific fact. Did you go to a biology class?

[FreyaRed]

a fertilized cell is a person? is this science? Is an amoeba a person?

[fishbone77]

Is an amoeba the result of a human sperm cell and a human egg cell merging?

[FreyaRed]

When human reproduction cells are so scared so every menstruation a murder and male masturbation a mass murder.

[fishbone77]

So zero answer about whether an amoeba is the result of a human egg being fertilized by human sperm, eh?

Holy shit. you're rolling out all the retarded npc scripts. An egg is not a fertilized zygote. A sperm cell is not a fertilized zygote.

I really question your ability to think, here. You've shown a distinct lack of intelligence. This is why people don't think women should vote.

[FreyaRed]

ad hominem of course. lol

[fishbone77]

is an amoeba is the result of a human egg being fertilized by human sperm?

[loveslongnails]

@fishbone77 A fetus only gets personhood status BECAUSE of laws. So in other words, it can NOT have that status because of laws. Then there's the whole question of fetal viability. Nobody argues that a fetus isn't developing into a life, but some religions don't consider you a "person" until your "breath of life".

What you personally consider to be murder is not a universal belief. Even if 4 billion people agree with you, there's 4 billion other people who don't.

[fishbone77]

@loveslongnails and they are wrong. You have chowderheads claiming fetuses are parasites. That doesn’t make them right either.

[loveslongnails]

@fishbone77 Try and focus. " The person starts at conception. This isn't a debate."
It very much is. As I said, no one argues that cells are growing and a there's the potential for them to become a human being. That's not the argument.

Even the Catholic church agreed that there's a period when no soul is associated with the fetus, and they were fine with abortions up to that period. But wtf, they're wrong too because you say so.
Then you bring up nonsense like "chowderheads claiming fetuses are parasites." What are you blabbering out? It's irrelevant.

And here's the point you conveniently ignore: just because YOU believe YOU are right, and it's "not a debate", doesn't make YOU right either. But... you are more than willing to INFLICT your belief on everyone else. Yes, you are. Your ilk has proven this again and again.

I'd also wager the mortgage that you are really a BIRTHER... some one who cries about protecting the unborn but once they're born, fuck it, not my problem if you can't afford to raise them, or need help. I don't know if you're from the USA, but if you are, again I'd bet the mortgage that you consistently VOTE for representatives who cut and slash programs to help children and families, especially single moms.

[fishbone77]

@loveslongnails the Catholic Church absolutely does not believe that, so quit your bullshit.

There’s not a debate and I am right, because there’s not a single person who would argue a human life isn’t started at conception.

[loveslongnails]

@fishbone77 Hey stupid... I didn't say it was their current position, it was their position in the past. Then they changed. Which is my point... nothing is absolute.

Listen to your childishness... "This is not a debate and I am right" LMAO. There is consensus that life begins at fertilization among most scientists. That's a biological fact, but that's not where the definition of personhood comes into play. You can't deal with the difference.

As I said, you're no doubt just a "birther". You don't give two shits what happens after birth, so cut your bullshit. And while you're at it, do some RESEARCH on the Catholic Church's former position on abortion, you numbnuts.

[fishbone77]

@loveslongnails It was people's position in the past that you could own other people, too. fucking retard.

[loveslongnails]

@fishbone77 It still is,. There are people in places around the world who still believe that, but what does that have to do with anything?

What does the FACT you had NO CLUE that the Catholic Church was previously fine with abortions until the time they deemed the fetus "ensouled"? Just admit you never knew instead of your childish name calling; you were ignorant of that fact, and many others.

[fishbone77]

@loveslongnails It’s as irrelevant as people beliving slavery was moral. You’re desperately trying to make any point you can to deny that a human life begins at conception. It’s all smoke and mirrors.

[loveslongnails]

@fishbone77 You're really very stupid. I acknowledged that life begins to form at conception. Virtually all biologists and scientists agree. As soon as the cells unite, a process of growth starts. What your feeble brain can't comprehend is that the discussion is over whether it has personhood or not, and if so at what point.

Meanwhile, you refuse to address your own ignorance that the Catholic Church once held a certain position of acceptability for abortions, then changed. Other religions have their own positions. Your position is that once the growth starts, it's considered fully human and has the same status as a born person.

So if you'd just shut up and read for a minute, you'd see that I don't argue life begins to form at conception. You're so sure you are right and everyone else is wrong, so ok, why bother to engage?
What if I said that MY GOD told ME, "well, there's no soul attached to it yet, and I'm not really thrilled with the abortion idea, but it isn't murder".

So the only smoke is what you're trying to blow up everyone's ass by insisting you know what's right and wrong about this. You also AGAIN won't answer...
* Are you a birther? * Do you live in the USA and vote for people who don't give a shit about what happens to newborns or families and single moms who need help? You are more concerned that the birth occurs than what the child is being born into, or why?

I can tell you're one of those guys who wouldn't care if a 12 year old was raped by dad and got pregnant. You'd say "It's not the fetus' fault. She should have it", disregarding everything that goes with that from health, safety and the risk of genetic deformities. You're THAT GUY.

Try learning first to read. After that, try thinking before you blurt out things like "retard" because when it comes from you, it's the pot calling the kettle black.

[fishbone77]

@loveslongnails right. So abortion is murdering a human life. See how simple that is?

[loveslongnails]

@fishbone77 I said it was the start of a life cycle, I didn't say it was a person yet till it's ensouled.
And still, you won't respond to being a birther, or anything else. You just push the dog whistle.

Go ahead... tell us your philosophy on incest rape of a 12 year girl, because that shit really happens. Should she be forced to give birth? Or what about rape in general? C'mon coward, let's hear it.

[fishbone77]

@loveslongnails lol you’re such an emotional tampon.

Here’s the thing. You don’t really care about 12 year olds getting pregnant of rape victims. Because if I said to you “ok, abortion is ok in those instances, but all other abortion is illegal” that would make >95% of abortions illegal.

you good with that?

[loveslongnails]

@fishbone77 Here's the thing about you, you douchenugget...
You can't answer a question so you try around and TELL ME what I care about. Laughable.

If you said "OK, in that instance", that means you ARE OK with abortion under certain circumstances, which throws your whole "it's MURDER" argument into question, especially if it's not incestual rape with a risk of genetic deformity. I mean if you're REALLY about how it's MURDER, than you'd say rape doesn't matter, sorry it happened that way, but... not the fetus' fault.
You didn't answer if THAT'S your position as well... you just tried to turn into 95% of other abortions.

So lets hear Mr. Moral Highgroung... should RAPE victims be forced to carry to term?
Get on record.

I already told you where I stand on those other abortion choices, and I'm on record for it.
I'd rather not see kids birthed into poverty, or to teen-agers, or to parents who don't want them.
The adoption and foster care system in the USA especially is in shambles, and no one wants minority kids.

So get on record. Lets hear you say it.

[fishbone77]

@loveslongnails exactly what I figured. You don’t give a shit about underage pregnancy or rape. You want to continue murdering babies. So all that was a lame attempt to emotionally manipulate the discussion. Like a bitch.

[loveslongnails]

@fishbone77 Sorry, once again you refuse to answer and try to tell me WHAT I give a shit about, you little poltroon. It's a question, there's no emotional manipulation because you're too smart for that right? It's a question based on your moral stance:

"Since you believe that abortion is murder, does that apply to ALL cases of abortion for you, including rape, whether it be incest or not?"

Where's the emotion? It's a straight up question... one that you refuse to answer and just repeat "I want to keep murdering babies". Yes, yes... we know that according to you, I want to keep murdering the "unborn". You've established that. Now answer the question, coward.

[loveslongnails]

The USA is not a Christian nation, and your idea of sin is irrelevant to the issue. You don't even live in the USA, so why do you care? Oh, because you've been groomed by you religion to answer this dog whistle? Ok, got it.

[strateguy632]

Of course not but we must separate religion from government. But based on compromise like french law. Punish clinic staff if done in 2nd trimester.

[browsingthroughthe]

I for one believe in countries where abortion is legal and free and safe 👍🏻😃 as defined by local laws

[KostasKouvalis]

Maybe not completely, but strictly regulated. It should only be permitted if the woman's life/health is in danger. Not because you decided to fuck condomless and now you don't wanna take responsability

[kellytheman]

Well living in America is all about being free and decide want to do with out judgment no matter if they believe in a religion or not. I don’t think abortion should be banned for certain reasons like rape or incest.

[Danzigdawson]

Not at all. The influence of religion on politics should be way, way more restrained.

[purplepoppy]

So is eating shrimp and not sacrificing a dove on your period.

[Shiprex]

No, it should be opened up to men who didn't chose to become parents but can be forced into it by unscrupulous and greedy women.

[MzAsh]

No, your religion isn’t law.

[Sevenpointfive]

they stole my opportunity to have kids so no one can have kids. abortion should be mandatory!!!

[msc545]

It should be banned, but not for religious reasons. Instead, it should be banned because murder is illegal. Murder is universally banned in the U. S., and so should abortion be banned.

[dudeinohio]

The USA does not have a religious government.

[browsingthroughthe]

And we thank God everyday that it is free and secular 👍🏻😃 no troll. 🧌

[canamlusciouslad73]

So you want to bring back lots of Old Testament decrees?

[FenixG45]

No, sometimes there are greater/more important reasons for abortion than religion

[admles]

No.

Religion should have ZERO influence on any country's laws.

[itss_lily]

no. absolutely not. abortion is healthcare

[DonaldDarko]

It's none of my buisiness.

[Agape93]

Nobody gives a shit what you think, dude. Nobody.

[TonyMetal___1986]

Banned everywhere except for serious issues

[Anonymous]

There is no scientific proof God is real.

[fishbone77]

yes. It's murdering a human.

[Anonymous]

No, of course not.

[kültigin_tr]

yes its haram 🙌

[Titlover01]

No. It shouldn’t.

[abc3643]

No, of course not.

[Abbycado]

Nope

[MrChinaski]

Nope.

[douride2]

Nope.

[ZarektheVos]

Yeah

[Anonymous]

YES!