If the US is low on beef, why not fund new large cattle ranches?

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MisterWack · Accepted Answer

The industry is messed up here, the big corporation owned factory farms try to squeeze out the little guy and sabotage competition.
They lobby the government to keep things broken, to the point Donald Trump’s only solution is to get Argentinian beef as an import while letting American corporations with largest stakes in the industry go wild with it.

The US Government always prioritizes the richest amongst us, they won’t start caring now when it hurts one of their rich flock they have to protect another.
Large cattle ranches would mean more competition which isn’t good in their eyes since they have to look out for #1.

On top of that, Capitalism (at least America’s version) is small amount of corporations own everything and influence everything.
They control the means of production, the regulations that get passed (or lack thereof), deregulations, price gouges, prioritizing stock interests more than consumers, and cutting corners to save money all with the express purpose of maximizing making efficient corporate greed.

CaptainObivous · Accepted Answer

Because our our corrupt government is too busy wasting money fighting Israel's war against Iran, our government being corrupt didn't start with Trump, it's been corrupt for a long time unfortunately. Ideally, we'd relax certain regulations on US cattle ranches while imposing higher tariffs on imported beef that can be used to expand and help keep our cattle ranches from going under. Our focus should be ensuring out cattle ranches don't go under, not partisan politics.

katiesmuff · Accepted Answer

Of all the conversations I just read here one thing which was never even mentioned was that a good part of the issue is the changing weather patterns and droughts in the beef producing areas, making it hard to impossible for the ranchers to grow the huge herds of the past. Our government doesn't seem to show any interest into finding a way to solve that issue. Would it be possible for deep wells for supplying irrigation systems for grazing pastures? We do have some very smart people in this country and put a few minds together to solve some of these issues in many areas outside of beef production.

purplepoppy · Accepted Answer

Just import more from Europe.

OlderAndWiser · Answer

I don't think the government should be subsidizing private industries.

SeekerOfTruth007 · Answer

Many of the Dummycrats are actually trying to ban beef ranching and consumption, in favor of pigs and chickens. I guess they don't know how disgusting pigs are to raise: They eat their own shit willingly, for goodness sake.

My mother had 300 head of cattle at one time a few years ago, but she sold them for her retirement nest egg. It costs a lot to winter 300 cattle though, so she probably doubled her money on them, but big time ranchers who do it full-time can probably still triple or quadruple their money by raising cattle... you just need enough land to raise 100% of your own hay, so you never pay someone else for hay or animal feed. If you are ever buying hay or animal feed from someone else, then you are making less profits than you otherwise should be making. You want at least 2 or 3 acres of land per adult animal you're attempting to raise. Believe it or not, horses eat more grass per adult than do cattle.

Don't let people poor mouth you though. There's MONEY in just raising HAY to sell to cattle ranchers to winter cattle. They wouldn't be doing it if they didn't make money doing it. Several years back, there had been a drought in texas, and hay farmers in Louisiana were shipping huge loads of round bales of hay to texas at insane profits just to keep the texas cattle alive, and I doubt the ranchers in texas actually lost money on the cattle, because 100% of the beef still eventually sold at auction.

Chazmatazz269 · Answer

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Cows don’t materialize out of nowhere. They have to be born and raised. Biden era regulations on the domestic beef industry limited ranchers on how many heads of cattle they could have. Drumpf repealed those limitations, but they can’t just start pulling fully grown beef cattle out of magic hats now. So the reduced tariffs for preferred trade partners will help supplement the US market until cattle ranchers can raise more cattle.

OneViewpoint · Answer

Why not let incompetent ranchers go bankrupt? Our "Conservatives" want a free market economy? Fine. Cattle ranchers are government hating Conservatives. There are at least a dozen commercially viable alternatives to beef.

Chicken
Turkey
Duck
Bison
Beans + rice
Pork
Goat
Fish
Tofu
Shrimp
Mussels
Squid

Let the cattle ranchers compete or die off. Zero help from taxpayers. We don't need them. They need buyers.

Lynx122 · Answer

Cause trump got money from this meatpacking company. There's only like a few companies that do the meatpacking which is called a Monopsony. Which is like a monopoly but on the demand side. Where the buyers can set the price because the sellers don't have any other options. If you're selling like 1000 cows you can't just sell it to some guy on the street corner you have to sell it to someone who has a slaughterhouse and a meatpacking facility and can actually sell the meat on to supermarkets. And if there's few enough of those people they can just say I'll pay you this much take it or leave it. Trump doesn't give a fuck about U. S. farmers he just wants the beef price to go down before the midterm election so that voters are less angry at him.

jshm2 · Answer

The same reason the US low on babies, does not mean import more Russian/Estonian women.

Cattle are like any other life form, they are location sensitive. If I was to boot you into Israel tomorrow to work there until death. You could not perform anywhere close to how you do now.

Cattle need to be grazed in one location for a generation or two before they can be sustainable and healthily farmed. The issue right now is that NO ONE in the USA has spare cattle, and there are a lot of diseases affecting the existing cattle - so no one is selling either.

loveslongnails · Answer

Kelly, since you're from Spain, you're probably not aware of much that's in the Project 2025 manifesto, just like lots of people from the USA are not. This is part of an overall plan to eliminate cattle farming and make the public dependent on lab grown meat. Once you do that, you can more easily control not only what's in it, but the supply.

The whole idea behind the current administration is to bankrupt them, buy their land for pennies, build data centers and labs for meat making. That's their plan for the USA beef industry.

FreyaRed · Answer

It seem beef production margin is lower than other products. Usually healthy market would regulate itself due demand and supply mechanic, but this is a market where middleman make 90% or margin, so the prices for framers remain low and prices in groceries remain high.

Meanwhile US is low on eggs, crops and everything. I think it's just speculations bubble to scam US folks.

Static_In_The_Attic · Answer

If the US is low on beef, why not fund new large cattle ranches?

The next step is LAB GROWN MEAT & I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s already in use.

How about a P. L. T. Instead? PLANT. LETTUCE. TOMATO.

It’s MYSTERY MEAT, it may smell like it, it may tastes like it however it’s not.

ohsheeT · Answer

Kelly it should have already been done years ago but the government's trying to buy up all the cattle ranches they want to feed us fake 3D steaks in hamburgers with food coloring and flavoring don't you know healthy people don't make them rich and big Pharma they need to make more money because the fake politicians that we hire need a paycheck

RavVid · Answer

Well we can supply with superior beef and are. Australia's beef exports to the US are going up by 17%.

It is superior as every head of cattle gets their own personal pin number so you know where they have been... what they've been eating. If you want hormones with your beef you can have that or if you don't want hormones with your beef you can have that too. You get to choose.

If you like wagyu we have the largest herd outside Japan. We're taking care of you :)

Ariesman81Nshiiit · Answer

Keep government out of private industry. The market will correct if regulations are removed.

If prices are high, cattle producers will raise more beef, which will decrease prices.

If Trump and the department of Ag feel the beef market is being manipulated in an attempt to bolster demand, then I think it's his job to step in and correct the situation.

Surely · Answer

Heard a cattle guy talking about this the other day. He said that it will take three years to overcome the shortage of beef production.
Till a calf is born and be able to reproduce to add to the herds.
He didn’t point the finger to anyone for the current shortage.

Laws-Of-Existence · Answer

Governments can't hold people by the balls if those people thrive too much. Who will die in Iran if life is good?

AviatorTom · Answer

Why should the government get involved? Let the market take care of itself. Yu now, there are many alternatives to beef. Let the consumer decide.

BadApple69 · Answer

You can fund all you want but it still takes the same as a human about 9 months for a cow to give birth. Then another 2 years before it’s big enough to slaughter. So the issue is time.

lightbulb27 · Answer

It's cheaper to cut down the rain forests.  We don't have the food to feed the cows and USA is expensive? E. g. outsourcing? I don't know why they did what they did.

NoDecision · Answer

Good question.

Just_Ken · Answer

There is no shortage. Its driving the price up for the stock price.  Remember the egg shortage

WestofNowhere · Answer

More tariffs. Four hundred percent blanket tariffs on every country. Make Murica great again! Yee haw!

Massageman · Answer

We just wait until our Kroger has reduced prices on "day-old" meat. Perfectly fine when you simply ignore the dates and actually inspect the meat!!!

Bricealan · Answer

@kelly6 Kelly, we don't need more beef... we need more chicken farms!!! 🤣🤣🤣

goaded · Answer

Are they low on beef, or is it just more expensive to raise it?

MrChinaski · Answer

Private enterprise will sort it out just fine.

fishbone77 · Answer

Cattle take a while to be market ready. Feed is expensive. Government regulations favor monopolies in beef processors.

Jersey2 · Answer

I think it was a drought issue. So new ranches don’t help.

888theGreat · Answer

Gov't should stay out of Ranching, farming, and sports. They should not be so close to Corporations either.

FenixG45 · Answer

Its about economics. What path results in lowest use (cost) of resources, but maximizes value (benefit) to the customers?

jahaims · Answer

Because it is intentional. Go to your closest local source there is no shortage.

LiamS95 · Answer

The US gets a large percentage of it beef from western Canada

In_Trance · Answer

Because they can text imported beef more. And you will pay the tax because you have no other choice

832dreamboy · Answer

As my mother used to say,"Too much like right !!!"

rgb008 · Answer

I think they just want us to become vegans

_Jenny_ · Answer

We should @kelly6

exitseven · Answer

Trump has already done that.

Sal_Monella · Answer

We aren't. Its just expensive to produce.

NathanDavis · Answer

I got beef

dislikesmath · Answer

Im not sure

slatyb · Answer

Or eat less beef.

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