Does anyone here still believe "the media" is controlled by the left in the US?

[goaded]

Obviously, Fox News, Newsmax, and OANN were right-wing from the outset.

But in the last decade or so, right-wing billionaires have been buying up other media outlets.

Both CNN and CBS are now owned as part of the SkyDance by David Ellison (CBS was already bowing to Trump's pressure in order to have the merger allowed).

Since 2014, the Washington Post is owned by Jeff Bezos, and suddenly stopped endorsing presidential candidates.

Twitter, of course, was bought by Musk and let the deplorables run free.

The US operations of TikTok are to be sold to a consortium of investors in the US including close Trump ally Larry Ellison of Oracle (father of David Ellison).

YouTube, TikTok and Meta have all turned down the trailer - paid advertising - for the Oct. 9 documentary "Musk", citing “political” content.

Meta locked No Kings organizers out of their Instagram accounts as the protests began yesterday.

The US media IS controlled by the left

The US media is controlled by billionaires to protect themselves and support the people who make them even richer

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18 d

Here's the Musk trailer that they won't accept as paid advertising.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY_8SyndC10

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18 d

Just for a laugh, I looked up high credibility, high traffic outlets in the US, according to bias.

Left bias: 32 sources.
Left-centre: 151
Least biased: 147
Right-centre: 25
Right bias: 3 sources.

Example link: mediabiasfactcheck.com/.../

[MisterWack]

Frankly, Bernie Sanders nailed it on the head a few decades ago.

Cutting welfare, stagnation of minimum wage, pushing inflation, mergers that lead to mass layoffs, and polluting the environment also dumping chemicals into our drinking water is unpopular.

How do you sell an unpopular agenda that is not beneficial at all to the political constituents who will be voting? You divide them up.

The media plays the culture wars, viewers sign up.
The media is paid for by billionaires.

The political parties of America choose the candidates that will deliver the best agenda for their party.
The political parties or America are bought out by billionaire donors, especially since SuperPACs with unlimited money funneled in can get their interests met.

The fact is, leaning to the left is actually leaning to the people.

The Far Left politics is more in line with the people than The Far Right.

When you meet people where they are and give them the opportunity for a candidate who delivers on their dreams, desires, and policy goals to bring about a better day, they see it and will show up in numbers. People are waking up and it’s a good thing.

Medicare For All, Affordability, Free Childcare, Fixing Infrastructure, Ending Wars, and Free Education is a pretty good agenda that the rich simply can’t ignore.
We live in the wealthiest most prosperous nation, yet we are told we can’t have it when there are nations who succeed at these levels. It can be done, we just need to implement.

[goaded]

Very well said. Thank you.

[Ariesman81Nshiiit]

You do not have a right to my labor free of charge.

[goaded]

@Ariesman81Nshiiit Who said that? "Medicare For All, Affordability, Free Childcare, Fixing Infrastructure, Ending Wars, and Free Education" doesn't mean the people providing it aren't being paid. It means we all pay together, like for roads, fire services, etc..

[Ariesman81Nshiiit]

Paid for by whom?

[MisterWack]

@Ariesman81Nshiiit Raising taxes on 1% and billionaires.
I highly doubt you are worth more than $ 1 billion.

[Ariesman81Nshiiit]

"we" don't include everyone. "We" only suggests taxpayers. "We" could also donate to such causes if "we" felt so inclined. "You" wish to force communism while "I" wish to stay free.

If "we" wanted socialism, "we" could move to Canada. But "we" don't.

[Ariesman81Nshiiit]

@MisterWack

Yeah, fuck them right?

[goaded]

@Ariesman81Nshiiit Where the heck did my "we all pay together" comment go?

Listen, idiot, if your health insurance premiums were paid as taxes instead of health insurance premiums, what difference would it make to your life? Health insurance premiums are effectively a tax that you can opt out of if you don't care if you get sick or die.

[Ariesman81Nshiiit]

I didn't delete it.

Correct. A premium is a choice that a consumer can make if they wish to partake in a service. A tax is forced compliance. I see no logical reason why a healthy young person be forced to pay a tax for something they won't likely use.

[goaded]

@Ariesman81Nshiiit Maybe society knows better than a 20 year old who knows they're invincible, and would rather they didn't die. The US has lower life expectancy. higher maternal and infant mortality rates than comparable nations which spend far less on health care. Those countries also keep people and their families insured if you lose or quit your job, freeing you from wage slavery.

[Ariesman81Nshiiit]

It incentivizes being a bum man. And puts the burden on the most productive of society. And what you end up with is Canada and they're elected officials importing 15,000,000 dependents. Socialism creates wage slaves.

[goaded]

@Ariesman81Nshiiit How the hell does ensuring people have health care, subsistence food, and a place to live create "wage slaves"? Not having those things does. People with those things can choose to work for more, but they don't have to.

[Ariesman81Nshiiit]

Tell that to the Canadians losing their jobs

[goaded]

@Ariesman81Nshiiit Totally unaffected by some moron imposing tariffs on their southern border, I suppose.

[Ariesman81Nshiiit]

Socialism weakened their country

[goaded]

@Ariesman81Nshiiit How? America has a $40 trillion deficit at the moment, almost completely because of Republican presidents. Their weapon stockpiles have been radically depleted by a reckless attack on Iran which has screwed over the entire world. A military that can defeat anybody can't defeat everybody, and Russia and the US have just proven that they can't defeat anybody, let alone everybody.

[goaded]

While we're at it, what the hell did you mean by "You do not have a right to my labor free of charge."?

Do you think public defenders don't get paid? Garbage collectors?

[goaded]

@Ariesman81Nshiiit Says the guy not answering: What the hell did you mean by "You do not have a right to my labor free of charge."? Do you think public defenders don't get paid? Garbage collectors?

No, that $40 trillion is mostly because of Republican presidents' policies. Bush was handed a surplus and both he and Trump cut taxes on the rich.

[Ariesman81Nshiiit]

It's self explanatory to someone who doesn't feel entitled to other people's money.

[goaded]

@Ariesman81Nshiiit Oh, FFS, answer the simple question: What the hell did you mean by "You do not have a right to my labor free of charge."? Do you think public defenders don't get paid? Garbage collectors?

[Ariesman81Nshiiit]

Enjoy your socialism!

[goaded]

@Ariesman81Nshiiit What, the ability to leave a job and still have health care? At least 4 weeks a year paid vacation? I do.

But you still didn't answer the simple questions: What the hell did you mean by "You do not have a right to my labor free of charge."? Do you think public defenders don't get paid? Garbage collectors?

[OneViewpoint]

Oh yeah, Extremist Capitalist America is for sale.

• Billionaires have already bought the politicians.
• Billionaires have already bought the courts.
• Billionaires have already bought the media.
• Billionaires already own the privatized healthcare system.
• Billionaires are buying up the food supply (agriculture).
• Billionaires are buying up the housing supply.

You are about to find out what your great grandparents experienced working in coal mines and railroad camps as economic slaves for survival wages, buying everything from a "company store", and living in debt to the rich from the day you're born til the day you die. God Bless America... the land of the dumbasses.

[Ill_made_Knight]

Cable news networks are pretty partisan with msNOW being most strongly left and FOX being pure right wing propaganda. CNN has a left bend to it for sure BUT is being acquired by the Ellisons who have famously cucked CBS. CNN also tends to "both sides" things to death by having panel shows such as Abby Phillip where a couple right wingers are regularly brought in and allowed to tell lie after lie, legitimizng them in the eyes of folks who haven't been keeping up with things just by being allowed a seat at the table. We will see over the next while how they are pushed or not.
There are OANN and Newsmax which are a step even further right than FOX.
Anyone thinking Soros or anyone like that is in control of most of the media is misinformed. I prefer independants regardless, because even msNOW and CNN still have the corporate Dem view imbedded and tend to attack more progressive candidates that actually want to help people... they support the Schumer, Jeffries, strongly worded letter crowd.

[goaded]

Yes, and believe that Susan Collins really is "very concerned" and will one day vote against her party in a vote where hers is the decider.

[Ill_made_Knight]

She flailed in the debate, lol. Gotta wonder where the center of the bias checkers Overton Window sits.

[exitseven]

They are owned by self serving billionaires. I suppose it is an improvement over being an echo chamber for democrats but they still have no credibility.

[FrodoVader007]

Just for a laugh, I looked up high credibility, high traffic outlets in the US, according to bias.

Left bias: 32 sources.

Left-centre: 151

Least biased: 147

Right-centre: 25

Right bias: 3 sources.

So, left wing bias is more dominate? Imagine that 😂

[goaded]

Only when you look at high credibility outlets. Imagine that.

So you're stalking and trolling me, now.

[FrodoVader007]

Thanks for proving my point 😉 good boy

[purplepoppy]

A quick google will show you how each news outlet leans and its pretty obvious you have plenty on each side.

The problem is a lot of Americans see anything outside their extremist views as being left wing.

[goaded]

Media Bias Fact Check is a useful tool. I just found their filtered search tool that means you can search for bias, traffic, credibility, etc.

Just for a laugh, I looked at high credibility, high traffic outlets in the US.

Left bias: 32 sources.
Left-centre: 151
Least biased: 147
Right-centre: 25
Right bias: 3 sources.

Example link:
mediabiasfactcheck.com/.../

Same thing for low credibility:

Left bias: 0 sources.
Left-centre: 0
Least biased: 147
Right-centre: 25
Right bias: 3 sources.

There's a bit of a pattern, there. But I'm sure lots on the right will claim bias on the part of MBFC.

[goaded]

I screwed up on the low credibility list, the last three are obviously the high credibility numbers.

The right is the only one with a high traffic, low credibility site: Real America's Voice.

[GothEgg]

You remind me of some of left wing friends when they found out that AOC's tax the rich dress cost $20,000 to buy.

[goaded]

Really? In what way?

[GothEgg]

A $20,000 dress that says tax the rich is well... pretty rich.

[goaded]

No, I mean, in what way is my explanation of how most of the media is currently owned by right wing billionaires like your left wing friends when they found out that AOC's tax the rich dress cost $20,000 to buy?

AIUI she rented it for a night and never bought it.

[GothEgg]

Perhaps next she could rent a Ferrari to her next $35,000 per head gala with tax the tich written on it.
It was cringe, tone deaf, hypocritical, performative and a classic case of champagne socialism.
Its very much like your recent revelation that the media is controlled and the woke nonsense they are spoon feeding isn't real.

[goaded]

What "revelation"? Some idiot on here claimed the left control the media, I've shown you how it's right-wing billionaires controlling most of it. The evidence shows that right wing outlets are less honest than those on the left. Hell, show me a left-wing media outlet that had to claim that their programs were just entertainment and wouldn't be believed to be true by reasonable people, or that had to pay hundreds of millions of dollars to settle a defamation case.

Outlets that used to be trustworthy are no longer so.

It literally costs the same to rent a Ferrari as she paid to rent the dress. experienceferrari.com/.../ If I felt like it, I could rent one, no problem. It's just an utter waste of money, but I'm not in the business of raising my visibility.

[GothEgg]

Billionaires are neither right wing or left wing and sponsor both sides.

[goaded]

Equally?

[GothEgg]

Yes. Whoever is of benefit. Its buisness to them.

[goaded]

"Billionaires Worth A Combined $1.35 Trillion Attended Trump’s Inauguration"

Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk, Sergey Brin, Sam Altman, Tim Cook, Miriam Adelson, Rupert Murdoch, Mukesh Ambani, Phil Ruffin, Howard Lutnick, Vivek Ramaswamy, Brian Armstrong.

Musk, by himself was temporarily worth $1Trillion after just two years of Trump. They've all been making out like pirates.

They did not do the same for Biden or Obama. Nor did they spend hundreds of millions getting them and their supporters get elected.

www.forbes.com/.../

[loveslongnails]

Only the maga-dolts still spew that nonsense. They're too dumb to look up who owns those stations, and they don't believe it when you just tell tehm.

[goaded]

I had noticed.

[Miristheiss]

CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NY Times... of course.

[goaded]

CNN and CBS are now both owned by the Ellison family, along with a good chunk of TikTok. CBS is the station that blocked a report on CECOT with minutes notice and fired Colbert.

I'll grant you the high factual reporting MSNBC, ABC, and NY Times, and counter with Real America's Voice, OANN, Fox News, Newsmaxx, Sinclair, who are more extreme right, and with low factual reporting. And don't let's forget Musk's Twitter.

[jahaims]

Nope it's controlled by another group. Both sides are

[lightbulb27]

who should they be owned by?

[goaded]

Not all by one side or the other.

[In_Trance]

No. It's controlled by Israel

[goaded]

Only if they have kompromat on all the billionaires, like maybe Epstein's videos.

Note: Israel (more specifically Israel's government) is not all Jews.

[Iron_Man]

Yes for sure

[goaded]

Uh, yes "the media" is controlled by the left in the US?

Because the only vote is that it's "controlled by billionaires to protect themselves and support the people who make them even richer"

[moddy_the_mod]

Cry harder.

[goaded]

Oh, it's you again. Try being productive, or at least adding to one single conversation on here for a change.

[moddy_the_mod]

It’s very productive showing you what a clown you are on a regular basis. I mean really “no kings” protests? Lol. Do you even realize how stupid that is?

[goaded]

No, tell me how the founders of the United States of America were idiots.

[moddy_the_mod]

It’s 2026 in case you haven’t realized.

[goaded]

Yes, and you think the founders of the United States of America were idiots because?

[moddy_the_mod]

Yawn. This dumb tactic of yours where you pretend not to understand things is so boring. It’s funny for a while then just gets sad.

[goaded]

Really? All I'm doing is proving your ignorance. The founders of the United States of America explicitly rejected monarchy; why do you think they were wrong?

[moddy_the_mod]

What year did they do this?

[goaded]

The founders of the United States of America explicitly rejected monarchy; why do you think they were wrong?

[moddy_the_mod]

Were they under a monarch rule at the time?

[goaded]

Yes, moron. The founders of the United States of America explicitly rejected monarchy; why do you think they were wrong?

[moddy_the_mod]

What year did they do that?

[goaded]

Yellow brick wall.

[moddy_the_mod]

Going for the full retard tactic today. I guess not much different than any other day

[goaded]

Sure, wanker. The founders of the United States of America explicitly rejected monarchy; why do you think they were wrong?

[moddy_the_mod]

When did this happen? Last week?

[goaded]

Hello? Wanker? The founders of the United States of America explicitly rejected monarchy; why do you think they were wrong? Whenever it was.

[moddy_the_mod]

Were they under British rule at the time?

[goaded]

Were they wrong, then or now?

[moddy_the_mod]

THEY'RE STULL ALIVE? THIS IS AMAZING

[goaded]

Their ideas are, and you and the rest of the right are the ones trying to undo them.

[moddy_the_mod]

The right is trying to be incorporated back as an English territory? Where is this policy I can look up? who introduced this legislation? Whose campaign promises propose to do this?

[goaded]

Yawn. This dumb tactic of yours where you pretend not to understand things is so boring. It’s funny for a while then just gets sad.

[moddy_the_mod]

You're the one making the claims that the right is wanting us to be under English control and have a king again. I'm not making these claims.

[goaded]

There's nothing but lies and projection from you lot, is there?

[moddy_the_mod]

You made a claim, I'm asking you to back it up with evidence. You either can or can't. It's really that simple. All of your dancing around indicates it's likely the latter.

[goaded]

You know I didn't. You're just lying for fun.

[moddy_the_mod]

Oh, so you don’t have evidence. Hence the well deserved mocking of this faggoty no kings movement.