Is this how AI gets tamed?

[goaded]

German courts are saying that if Google's AI says something, that's the same as Google saying it.

"If AI answers are Google’s own statements, Google carries a publisher’s responsibility for every false claim its AI makes about a real person or company, at least in Germany, and every refused takedown request becomes evidence against it. Two courts have now said so, and by settling in Munich Google has, for now, kept the question away from a court whose ruling would bind them"

[MisterWack]

Governments will pass legislation in favor of deregulation and accountability through lobbyist efforts, always happens.

Germany might take some initiative but it won’t last. America is the main hub of AI, so if it fails to do anything against AI and its Masters then we’re screwed.

How we kill AI is through holding companies and the people pushing it accountable and hitting them hard in the wallet to where it outpaces the profit, also by breaking up the AI data centers and not building new ones, sabotaging new ones’ construction.

[OneViewpoint]

This is the sort of process that is 10 - 20 years behind the technology in the US for social media and AI. Legislators and the courts need to establish liability for AI, the corporate owners, the coders, and the users. Or God forbid, the liability for an AI personhood if corporations want to go down that path. And they will.

[purplepoppy]

A human in a company making a mistake isn't too bad, we don't expect people to be perfect and mistakes can easily be deal with by an apology to the customer and retraining or a kick up the arse. But there seems little accountability with AI. There's no little guy to blame and companies are reluctant to say their AI system is shit.

If AI is giving out misleading or dangerous advice then these platform owners should be held accountable.

[goaded]

They also commit crimes. Someone's responsible for them, and it isn't a computer.

[Chas456]

It's not how AI gets tamed, it's how crybabies destroy AI. Every time Gemini gives you an answer it tells you that it makes mistakes. It warns you not to trust it. It wants you to double check on your own so you don't runoff like a crybaby and sue them for trying to help YOU.

[goaded]

You think the average person reads the small print?

[Chas456]

Do you read the small print?

[goaded]

I avoid AI as much as I can. Democratic governments are there to protect the people, especially from people who don't care if they harm them. This is an example.

[Chas456]

Is there a reason you didn't answer my question?

[goaded]

Oh, FFS, you're one of them. Why is red a colour? The small print of what? Why didn't you answer "You think the average person reads the small print?"

What do you think of Yellow Brick Walls? ↗

[Chas456]

“The small print of what?”

😂You said it 5 minutes ago.

If you can't hold a conversation just say so. When people deflect like you it's just boring as fuck.

Blah blah blah yellow brick

[goaded]

Exactly. Pathetic loser.

[Chas456]

[Chas456]

I'm guessing you weren't Captain of your debate club. 😂😂😂

[goaded]

Yes, that's the question you ignored. Idiot.

[Chas456]

You said that stupid people don't read the fine print and I just asked if you read the fine print.

Why are you resorting to childish name-calling? Is that all you got? 😂😂

Just tell me if you read the fine print and we could move on to a deeper discussion.

[goaded]

Just a reasonable description of someone who won't answer a simple question.

[Chas456]

Well then it's obvious. The reason you're upset with AI is because you're one of the people who didn't read the fine print.
Well then, this is your lucky day. I've educated you and now you'll be just fine with AI. Just know that it makes mistakes just like you. It probably doesn't make nearly as many mistakes as you do, but you get what I mean.
One of the awesome features of AI is, it doesn't forget what it said five minutes ago. 😂

[goaded]

No, it's obvious you're far more the target of What do you think of debaters who misrepresent views and dodge questions? ↗ than I am. As is the author. Even assuming you're not the same person.

[Chas456]

Thanks for the link, I posted on it.

If you want to learn how to debate you have to follow the stream of thoughts and not just change the subject when it benefits you. Let me know if you need my help.

[goaded]

I'm sure you did, and you'll find a appreciative, if ignorant, audience.

Who asked the first question in this conversation? What was it?

[Chas456]

“is this our AI gets tamed”?

(and I'm sure by now you've long forgotten my reply)

I've talked to two obstetricians that have quit their medical practices.

They quit because of trial lawyers.

You're like the guy who sues the fork factory because he got fat. 🍴

[goaded]

None of that makes any more sense than everything else you've said.

[Chas456]

Do you feel that the AI is targeting you personally or targeting everyone.
I hope you think it's targeting everyone because if not, I would have to refer you to a specialist who deals with that sort of thing.

[goaded]

Typical yellow brick wall.

[Chas456]

Just know that Elon, Google, facebook, Amazon, and anthropic didn't develop AI as a personal attack on you. I know that sometimes people like you feel the world is out to get them, but just know that's not the case.

AI is the next process in evolution and it wasn't designed to harm YOU!
I'm guessing that Elon Musk doesn't even know you.
Don't worry,
///

Here's a little song I wrote you might want to sing it note for note
Don't worry be happy
In every life we have some trouble
When you worry you make it double
Don't worry be happy
Don't worry, be happy now
Ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh
Ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh
Don't worry

[goaded]

Again, a pathetic attempt to avoid actual questions, in this case by insulting me. Typical yellow brick wall.

[Chas456]

You called me an idiot. What name did I call you? Or did you forget the last sentence? 😂

[goaded]

It fitted someone who wouldn't answer a question, just like "yellow brick wall".

You think the average person reads the small print?

[Chas456]

Have you ever read the small print?

Just answer the question so we can move on. I want to delve into why you have this fear of AI, but until you can show me you can remember what you said 30 seconds ago, I just don't see the point.

Do you read the small print?

[goaded]

Follow the yellow brick wall... You think the average person reads the small print? That's what I asked 2 hours ago. You still didn't answer.

[Chas456]

First of all, there's nothing wrong with seeing imaginary yellow walls.
And there's nothing wrong with talking about that in every sentence.
These “walls” are obviously very important to your psyche so protect them as best you can.

But maybe you can say goodbye to your walls for now and come back to the debate. Do you read the fine print?

[goaded]

I swear, considering the accusations against me being mostly projection, you must be one of the morons I've shown to be full of shit before. Do you "think" you're debating?

[Chas456]

Which accusation? Not reading the fine print?
Or the part where AI is out to get you personally?

[goaded]

Do you "think" you're debating? You think the average person reads the small print? That's what I asked 2 hours ago. You still didn't answer.

[goaded]

I don't think I blocked you, but the system thinks I did.

[Chas456]

Well?

[goaded]

Do you "think" you're debating? You think the average person reads the small print? That's what I asked 2 hours ago. You still didn't answer.

[Chas456]

Stupid people don't read the fine print. Do you read the fine print?

[goaded]

Do you "think" you're debating? You think the average person reads the small print? That's what I asked 3 hours ago now. You still didn't answer. Like I said, you fit right in with the "we're the reasonable debaters" club, who aren't.

[Chas456]

No! Most people are stupid, so most people read anything.

[Chas456]

No! Most people are stupid, so most people read anything.

[goaded]

It's good you know you're not debating, so does everyone else.

[Chas456]

Let’s debate what “fine” print is. You first.

[goaded]

How about you, liar and "honest debater", answer the first question: "You think the average person reads the small print? "

[Chas456]

Again…. No. Do you read the fine print? I do. Do you?

[goaded]

When you answer the first question, which was "You think the average person reads the small print?", I might consider answering you, Yellow Brick Wall.

[Chas456]

[goaded]

I missed the two times you wrote "No! Most people are stupid, so most people read anything.", but since it didn't make sense, I didn't miss much. Also responding "no" to "answer the question" doesn't look much like an actual answer to the question, it looks like a refusal to answer.

Also, I never said "stupid people don't read the fine print", that's something you made up.

[Chas456]

Most people aren't smart enough to read the AI warning at the bottom.

Most people aren't smart enough to read the AI warning at the bottom

Most people aren't smart enough to read the AI warning at the bottom

Most people aren't smart enough to read the AI warning at the bottom

Did they answer the question yet?

Most people aren't smart enough to read the AI warning at the bottom

Most people aren't smart enough to read the AI warning at the bottom

Are you smart enough to read the AI warning at the bottom?

Do you want me to ask you again?

[goaded]

If I ever used AI, which I told you I don't, I would read the small print.

[DryGermanGuy]

And by copyright infringement lawsuits! 👍👍👍

[jamesgoldman]

Ai is already out the bottle

It will end humanity within a decade

[goaded]

Or we could regulate it. Perhaps by making people responsible for whatever program they put out into the world, so they're responsible for whatever crimes "the AI" commits.

[jamesgoldman]

They're all prepared to take themselves out like Hitler did before justice manifested

[Shiprex]

Perhaps but this is taking more attention away from other agents doing other things

[Jamie05rhs]

That would be fantastic.

[Iron_Man]

the robot should be destroyed

[msc545]

No, it should not be destroyed. You are familiar with the phrase" throwing out the baby with the bathwater "?

[Iron_Man]

@msc545 🙄