The truth is that men are just or more toxic to other male gamers than female gamers. In my experience guys actually treat random female gamers better than random male ones. Guys tend to just have much thicker skin because if you ever listen to a group of guys talking with each other half of what they say is just insulting each other and everyone just laughing at it like it's nothing.
This is only 2 occasions,... There are worse BS told between male gamers...
Those Low IQ specimens never seen a woman IRL.
They are 'keyboard warriors', only sound taught to impress their 'friends' for some street cred, when in reality they are just underage boys who do not know what they are doing and gender has nothing to do there, it is more parenting and single mommies are not as capable in doing it alone as they thought...
Not saying that this behaviour is OK, but judging all male population by just small minority of low IQ kids is not OK too.
Why you even on there I thought it is for 18+ only.
I was a "female gamer", and I got so much abuse online it was insane. Constant messages about dicks, just vile things. It's extremely misogynistic out there. I don't play anymore.
Wish it was as bad for us boys and man. If we only were sent nudes by girl gamers, rape threats or just a funny convo, every man would be a gamer. But girls are just like boys, right?
@tallcuck what? I’m talking about constantly being harassed by asshole boys online. Dick pics are gross, what kind of psycho does that. I needed to get a new email, change all my usernames. It was just too gross
@tallcuck no, reality isn’t a bunch of loser boys who make themselves feel powerful by insulting women. They are a very small Minority of reality, the stupid disgusting part.
Some guy sent me a nude picture of himself unsolicited and I told him, "whoa fuk nutz! I didn't ask U for all that, I just said hello, da fuk yo! Girls are not THE ONLY who get harassed but they R the MAJORITY that receives these type of things. I send the harassing person back with pictures of STD/STI infested dicks, because I like to fuk shit up, fukin with me is a losers bet.
Its just jokes, relaxe. As for why guys gatekeep their hobby, its because feminists and other types of SJWs are not welcome. Don't expect guys to be nice to those who wish to take over and ruin our hobby. I don't want to hear about how "problematic" it is that a female character is sexy. I don't want to see rubbish like Dream daddy. And if you think gemale gamers have it bad, how about those of us who get instantly labled nazis online just because we happen to like ecchi games. Because for unknown reasons. Girls don't have it that bad, you just get slightly unplesant jokes. Guys on the other hand can get harrassed by SJWs.
I'm 15, and could care less about the weird ass ecchi shit you're into, and this legitmatly just sounds like a you problem. I suggest you quit projecting
Its not shit, its top quality games. Its not only my problem, its a huge problem in the gaming industry. I'm not projecting. SJWs are a huge reason to why a lot of gamers are gatekeeping. And the type of jokes you mentioned are common among edgy gamers. Go play Overwatch, Blizzard will censor for you. People have been blocked for less than edgy jokes there.
Part of what makes games so appealing to men is their vastly competitive nature. Online games mainly revolve around power and competition as this is what men enjoy. In online games this often creates arguments and tustles over voice chat and shit. So unintentionally a lot of gamers build up a toxic sense of interaction between other people online just because thats the environment theyre used to.
Thats probably why ur seeing shit like this offloaded into peacful games like vr chat and also why you're seeing it in its birthplace; online competitive games. The difference between video games and sports is video games allow people to say what they want with no consequence, which is why this reaction seems so alien, but its not, its always been there.
Look up "dogs barking at eachother" on youtube to see what I mean
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Your entire butthurt attitude it enough proof of how games, like you put it, belong to men. This is characteristic of female nature. You always invade male-dominated male spaces and because you can't cope with men you want to change that environment so you can be more comfortable and then whore yourselves out for attention and money. Once that male-dominated space has become female-dominated and the competition of women has become too tough you start moving to the next male-dominated space. Twitch is the best example. You women took a gaming platform and turned it into a cam girl website which is literally full of sluts shaking their asses for beta bucks. It's impossible for men today to have their own space without women bombarding us with their cute selfies and asses. It is immediately called sexism. Women throw temper tantrums when men can find some happiness without them.
it's painfully obvious that you're projecting. Nothing about my "attitude" was butthurt I'm just sick and tired of fucked up sexist jokes and racism being normalized in the gaming community and called "edgy" but little dick boys that think they're funny
Because guys talk mess to each other all the time.. 😂😂.. It's not a "trash the girl" thing.. Maybe you have been living in lala land where everybody is hyping you up, but in games Especially when you play COD you will hear some of the most immature and sometimes vile stuff from gamers and a lot of them are teenagers.. Girls actually get treated better.. Being a victim about something that happens all the time won't help you in the long run..
"I’m worried I’m going to have to go threw bs since I’m a poc female gamer.".. That's playing the victim.. Most people won't care one way or another since everybody is free reign when playing games and chatting..
Pfft. No you're not. Stop doing that thing where you retroactively change your point so you can avoid my advice. And being mean to a girl isn't intrinsically sexist anyway so your point is moot.
Toxicity really sucks, games are supposed to be happy and fun... but sometimes the best solution besides using the mute button is playing in private lobbies and singleplayer games.
I'm not a gamer and can't believe you have to go through stuff like this.. sorry. Maybe the immediate solution is for girls to have gaming groups that are exclusive to them and are selective of the guys they allow. That way the trash talking and bullying stays out. Just a thought. I don't know how gaming groups work.
A shit tons of gamers especially on shooter games tends to be toxic. If you're black you could get called the n word Asian? derogatory words for chinese because tey just think you're chinese a GIRL? misogynistic names.
The reason is simple, one word: Gamergate. The history of gamergate and the scandal that happened lives on in what is really an extension of toxic masculinity. Although the articles you read will say that it began in 2014 it’s roots are actually embedded as far back as the 80s.
I call them idiots, not gamers. Ever person that plays a video game and harass other is just a low life, no slef respect idiot. I play with two girls whom are my friends on my channel and we have tons of fun. I do not talk to anyone like that, not even when i was at your age. Bad parents and dump ass kids 🤷♂️
It is microphone tough guy syndrome mixed in with arrogant assholediness. Guys like that they can hide behind behind their gamer tags and know that some people will not pursue turning them in. Worst case scenario they get their account banned and they start another one.
It has nothing to do with treating others like trash. This is how guys talk. Talking smack to each other is a form of male bonding, as crazy as that might seem to some females. These male gamers just see you as one of the guys and treat you as such.
These male gamers just see you as one of the guys and treat you as such.
This was pretty much used during an Esports event we hosted back in 2019, by an official when a complaint was made about inappropriate behaviour from an adult to a young female gamer.
@ChrisMaster69 I'm not award of the specific situation your daughter went through and if it was to the severity you describe it, I'm sorry she had to go through that and the alleged boys in question should be held accountable. However, using limited situations to make a generalization of most or all boy gamers is not productive, nor an accurate way to assess the issue.
@jmr2191 I am not actually on about my daughter, the company I work for sponsor E sports Teams, I attend Esports tournaments.
It is a very real thing that happens even in pro side of things, Esports have been told to clean its act up or loose sponsorship.
The daughter reference was simply, if you or anyone else in this thread had one, their attitude might be different. However being GaG none of the men have daughters or if they do really don’t give a shit.
There are a lot of female gamers who act like goddesses among men in online gaming and treat everyone in the lobby like shit and if there's another girl getting more attention oh boy, here comes a shitshow. That's how most of my experiences go. Sometimes I meet nice girls who aren't toxic like that though. But the rape jokes are to far, I'm not defending that
I've met toxic female gamers too. In general either you meet friendly people or toxic gamers when playing any multi-player games. It seems like it's only guys because there are more male gamers. The ones that are the worst only behave that way because they could never do it in person. People just be assholes sometimes.
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Just like anywhere else, you mean?
Some guys are just dicks on a body - they can't handle themselves around women and get all obnoxious. It just be like that, unfortunately. These are the sort of guys you read about on the news that started a bar room brawl over some woman's rejection.
Ugh what happened to the good old days when we were all just gamers. When the hell did it divide by gender
But to answer your question. If they are doing that they are being rude because they are little boy that has learned that pointless behavior from someone
I personally do not. I love it when anyone has similar interests as me and would never down talk it. However, I get where the stereotype may come from. Females are able to grab media attention much more easily just by being a girl... more so if they're attractive. Being an "e-girl" is easy and a lot of guys think e-girls just do it for easy money, kind of like having an OnlyFans account
I was having this convo today about sexism in online games. Imagine those people getting a hard-on treating people like trash, no matter what their pronouns are. Usually those males that treat women like that are bad people in-general, and haven't done anything useful or relevant in-game, let alone their lives.
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The truth is that men are just or more toxic to other male gamers than female gamers. In my experience guys actually treat random female gamers better than random male ones. Guys tend to just have much thicker skin because if you ever listen to a group of guys talking with each other half of what they say is just insulting each other and everyone just laughing at it like it's nothing.
This statement is valid however ego plays a part in some men.
This is only 2 occasions,...
There are worse BS told between male gamers...
Those Low IQ specimens never seen a woman IRL.
They are 'keyboard warriors', only sound taught to impress their 'friends' for some street cred, when in reality they are just underage boys who do not know what they are doing and gender has nothing to do there, it is more parenting and single mommies are not as capable in doing it alone as they thought...
Not saying that this behaviour is OK, but judging all male population by just small minority of low IQ kids is not OK too.
Why you even on there I thought it is for 18+ only.
Most people on cod are teens though 15-18
And the others are young adults
Where did you get this info from?
I know personally, 5 people who are in their 40s who play it and you just told, that only 15-25, play it...
I was a "female gamer", and I got so much abuse online it was insane. Constant messages about dicks, just vile things. It's extremely misogynistic out there. I don't play anymore.
Sounds not too bad
@Susjsm what?
Wish it was as bad for us boys and man. If we only were sent nudes by girl gamers, rape threats or just a funny convo, every man would be a gamer. But girls are just like boys, right?
@tallcuck what? I’m talking about constantly being harassed by asshole boys online. Dick pics are gross, what kind of psycho does that. I needed to get a new email, change all my usernames. It was just too gross
Susjsm is a troll, ignore them. I'm sorry you had to go threw that. The shit these males think they can get away with online is disgusting
Welcome to reality. World isn't what you think it should be.
@tallcuck no, reality isn’t a bunch of loser boys who make themselves feel powerful by insulting women. They are a very small
Minority of reality, the stupid disgusting part.
@doopayo I'm no troll. I'm just not a women who's been codled all their life therefore thinks minor things are so horrible. Poor babies.
@Susjsm dick pics are not minor things. They are disgusting. I can’t believe you are defending sick boys who send sick picks to female gamers
It's just a dick. I don't think there's anything to defend it's funny at best.
@Susjsm you're digusting
Some guy sent me a nude picture of himself unsolicited and I told him, "whoa fuk nutz! I didn't ask U for all that, I just said hello, da fuk yo! Girls are not THE ONLY who get harassed but they R the MAJORITY that receives these type of things. I send the harassing person back with pictures of STD/STI infested dicks, because I like to fuk shit up, fukin with me is a losers bet.
Its just jokes, relaxe. As for why guys gatekeep their hobby, its because feminists and other types of SJWs are not welcome. Don't expect guys to be nice to those who wish to take over and ruin our hobby. I don't want to hear about how "problematic" it is that a female character is sexy. I don't want to see rubbish like Dream daddy. And if you think gemale gamers have it bad, how about those of us who get instantly labled nazis online just because we happen to like ecchi games. Because for unknown reasons. Girls don't have it that bad, you just get slightly unplesant jokes. Guys on the other hand can get harrassed by SJWs.
I'm 15, and could care less about the weird ass ecchi shit you're into, and this legitmatly just sounds like a you problem. I suggest you quit projecting
Its not shit, its top quality games. Its not only my problem, its a huge problem in the gaming industry. I'm not projecting. SJWs are a huge reason to why a lot of gamers are gatekeeping. And the type of jokes you mentioned are common among edgy gamers. Go play Overwatch, Blizzard will censor for you. People have been blocked for less than edgy jokes there.
@doopayo I mean you have a problem thats why you made this post but nobody cares.
@Susjsm if you don't care than you can stop commenting on this thread? Nobodies forcing you to care about my post
Part of what makes games so appealing to men is their vastly competitive nature. Online games mainly revolve around power and competition as this is what men enjoy. In online games this often creates arguments and tustles over voice chat and shit. So unintentionally a lot of gamers build up a toxic sense of interaction between other people online just because thats the environment theyre used to.
Thats probably why ur seeing shit like this offloaded into peacful games like vr chat and also why you're seeing it in its birthplace; online competitive games. The difference between video games and sports is video games allow people to say what they want with no consequence, which is why this reaction seems so alien, but its not, its always been there.
Look up "dogs barking at eachother" on youtube to see what I mean
Your entire butthurt attitude it enough proof of how games, like you put it, belong to men. This is characteristic of female nature. You always invade male-dominated male spaces and because you can't cope with men you want to change that environment so you can be more comfortable and then whore yourselves out for attention and money. Once that male-dominated space has become female-dominated and the competition of women has become too tough you start moving to the next male-dominated space. Twitch is the best example. You women took a gaming platform and turned it into a cam girl website which is literally full of sluts shaking their asses for beta bucks.
It's impossible for men today to have their own space without women bombarding us with their cute selfies and asses. It is immediately called sexism. Women throw temper tantrums when men can find some happiness without them.
it's painfully obvious that you're projecting. Nothing about my "attitude" was butthurt I'm just sick and tired of fucked up sexist jokes and racism being normalized in the gaming community and called "edgy" but little dick boys that think they're funny
fuck off you snowflake. the gaming community has enough sluts asking for attention.
Because guys talk mess to each other all the time.. 😂😂.. It's not a "trash the girl" thing.. Maybe you have been living in lala land where everybody is hyping you up, but in games Especially when you play COD you will hear some of the most immature and sometimes vile stuff from gamers and a lot of them are teenagers.. Girls actually get treated better.. Being a victim about something that happens all the time won't help you in the long run..
How is asking a question being a victim? I never said anything about being a victim, I just asked a simple question.
"I’m worried I’m going to have to go threw bs since I’m a poc female gamer.".. That's playing the victim.. Most people won't care one way or another since everybody is free reign when playing games and chatting..
Gaming can be toxic in general, not just for girls. Toxic communities have led me to quit certain games entirely.
If you wanna avoid being targeted for being female just avoid letting people know you're a girl.
Most games have a mute button for a reason, use it.
It's a narcissistic attitude to think that ONLY women have these problems.
Yes, I'm saying only women are having sexism in videogames. Not only ones that have to deal with toxic people
Pfft. No you're not. Stop doing that thing where you retroactively change your point so you can avoid my advice. And being mean to a girl isn't intrinsically sexist anyway so your point is moot.
Toxicity really sucks, games are supposed to be happy and fun... but sometimes the best solution besides using the mute button is playing in private lobbies and singleplayer games.
I'm not a gamer and can't believe you have to go through stuff like this.. sorry. Maybe the immediate solution is for girls to have gaming groups that are exclusive to them and are selective of the guys they allow. That way the trash talking and bullying stays out. Just a thought. I don't know how gaming groups work.
A shit tons of gamers especially on shooter games tends to be toxic.
If you're black you could get called the n word
Asian? derogatory words for chinese because tey just think you're chinese
a GIRL? misogynistic names.
Source: Asian gut who plays shooter games.
The reason is simple, one word: Gamergate. The history of gamergate and the scandal that happened lives on in what is really an extension of toxic masculinity. Although the articles you read will say that it began in 2014 it’s roots are actually embedded as far back as the 80s.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2014/10/14/the-only-guide-to-gamergate-you-will-ever-need-to-read/?outputType=amp
I call them idiots, not gamers. Ever person that plays a video game and harass other is just a low life, no slef respect idiot. I play with two girls whom are my friends on my channel and we have tons of fun. I do not talk to anyone like that, not even when i was at your age. Bad parents and dump ass kids 🤷♂️
It is microphone tough guy syndrome mixed in with arrogant assholediness. Guys like that they can hide behind behind their gamer tags and know that some people will not pursue turning them in. Worst case scenario they get their account banned and they start another one.
It has nothing to do with treating others like trash. This is how guys talk. Talking smack to each other is a form of male bonding, as crazy as that might seem to some females. These male gamers just see you as one of the guys and treat you as such.
He is on point
@jmr2191 from that I assume guys want to send each other cock pics or talk about how they need to fuck each other etc.
This stuff is real and happens, I assume from your comment you don’t have a daughter.
Possibly if you did, you might have a different outlook.
I have witnessed at ESports Tournaments this stuff happening.
Even within ESports there is a huge amount of effort to kick various people out of ESports.
We did sponsor 2 male teams but dropped them specially because they came out with sex stuff.
@ChrisMaster69 I didn't say I personally condoned the behavior. A reason is not the same as an excuse.
@jmr2191 it’s the last sentence.
These male gamers just see you as one of the guys and treat you as such.
This was pretty much used during an Esports event we hosted back in 2019, by an official when a complaint was made about inappropriate behaviour from an adult to a young female gamer.
This seems like truth. I've had a lot of guy friends in my life, and they constantly pull each other down, but in a competetive but joking way.
My female friends, on the other hand, often just want to destroy each other and would. nevwr take an insult as a joke.
Perhaps men and women have some differences in the way they form relationships that might be incompatible in some venues.
@ChrisMaster69 I'm not award of the specific situation your daughter went through and if it was to the severity you describe it, I'm sorry she had to go through that and the alleged boys in question should be held accountable. However, using limited situations to make a generalization of most or all boy gamers is not productive, nor an accurate way to assess the issue.
@jmr2191 I am not actually on about my daughter, the company I work for sponsor E sports Teams, I attend Esports tournaments.
It is a very real thing that happens even in pro side of things, Esports have been told to clean its act up or loose sponsorship.
The daughter reference was simply, if you or anyone else in this thread had one, their attitude might be different. However being GaG none of the men have daughters or if they do really don’t give a shit.
There are a lot of female gamers who act like goddesses among men in online gaming and treat everyone in the lobby like shit and if there's another girl getting more attention oh boy, here comes a shitshow. That's how most of my experiences go. Sometimes I meet nice girls who aren't toxic like that though. But the rape jokes are to far, I'm not defending that
Depends on context tho, you can joke about anything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZthi64Togg
I've met toxic female gamers too. In general either you meet friendly people or toxic gamers when playing any multi-player games. It seems like it's only guys because there are more male gamers. The ones that are the worst only behave that way because they could never do it in person. People just be assholes sometimes.
Just like anywhere else, you mean?
Some guys are just dicks on a body - they can't handle themselves around women and get all obnoxious. It just be like that, unfortunately. These are the sort of guys you read about on the news that started a bar room brawl over some woman's rejection.
Ugh what happened to the good old days when we were all just gamers. When the hell did it divide by gender
But to answer your question. If they are doing that they are being rude because they are little boy that has learned that pointless behavior from someone
I personally do not. I love it when anyone has similar interests as me and would never down talk it. However, I get where the stereotype may come from. Females are able to grab media attention much more easily just by being a girl... more so if they're attractive. Being an "e-girl" is easy and a lot of guys think e-girls just do it for easy money, kind of like having an OnlyFans account
I was having this convo today about sexism in online games. Imagine those people getting a hard-on treating people like trash, no matter what their pronouns are. Usually those males that treat women like that are bad people in-general, and haven't done anything useful or relevant in-game, let alone their lives.