Because if you're a tourist in Turkey, it feels like everyone is out to scam you. I have no respect for people who lie, cheat and deceive. It might not bother me as much if it was Atheists doing this, but it's practicing Muslims. One thing I hate more than liars and thieves is hypocrites.
Also, your president is a fanatical Islamist. I've been to Turkey, and if Turkey is the LEAST backwards Muslim country, than the others must REALLY be backwards, because even in Antalya there was gender/nationality segregation and some places that don't serve alcohol. I've gone into shops were workers refused to conduct business with the oposite sex. And airport security wouldn't screen the opposite sex. The nationality segregation wasn't straight forward, but it was obvious that they want tourists to stay in the "tourist" areas. A lot of Turks are also extremely nationalistic and always play the victim. "Turks saints. Turks never did anything wrong. It's not US it's KURDS!" Seriously, it's annoying.
Also, I got dihareah from your shitty, bland, dry unclean food. Turkish food in the West is MUCH better than Turkish food in Turkey.
I also thought it was extremely ignorant how you people automatically assumed we were Russian.
Oh, NOW do you understand?
You can talk bad about our president as much as we want because I did not choose him and I did not want him, and he is harming us with his Islamism, not you. He is a Georgian, not a Turk.
If you ate at a decent place, you wouldn't have diarrhea.
For some reason, I have never experienced what you described in my life. Even though I have been here for years.
It is true that I cannot say anything about their nationalism, they may have boasted about their history, I expect it.
Don't worry, I'm not angry, I'm open to criticism.
But honestly I was wondering what you eat.
You wouldn't have as a local. A lot of them sadly do see tourists as suckers.
Yeah, exactly they like to boast and they only acknowledge OTTOMAN history. They have no respect for the cultures that shaped the region prior to the Ottomans. And they're constantly butthurt that their enemies attacked them when they were at their weakest. Well yeah, it's called strategy.
A lot of Turkish people do think really highly of themselves.
Don't get me wrong, the country itself is beautiful and interesting. And it's still my favorite trip to this day, and my favorite country I've visited in terms of geography and cultural sites. However, the people who live there completely ruin the place. It's also very disorganized. I had pre-booked 4 tours at home and every single one of them got changed.
I will command you on your safety and cleanliness though. Turkey would be almost perfect if the locals didn't see tourists as suckers.
I keep hearing he's Georgian but see nothing about it online. His name is very Turkish and I'm shocked that a Georgian man would promote radical Islamic ideology.
Yes actually I understand you. It's a terrible feeling when they see you as a sucker. They may have sold you the products at a higher price. This is probably because
Because foreigners are rich and they think it won't hurt to get more money from them. They shouldn't do that, but it's hard to explain that to them.
I think you met a lot of ignorant people. I get angry at them too. For me, the history before the Ottoman Empire is very important.
You are wrong about this, it does not actually have a Turkish name. The name Recep Tayyip is of Arabic origin. This name has absolutely nothing to do with Turkish.
Then I apologize if I came on so strong and agressive. I thought you were another nationalist troll, but you seem legit.
It's okay, I understand you
I have lived Turkey my entire life. Never even seen a single gender segration anywhere
Also tourism business in Turkey really mostly run by kurds thought...
Its not about turks being saints or anything.
Turkey isn't spoken about much in the U. S. So, what little reputation you have is from the Turks who are the loudest online.
The Turks on Instagram are mostly uneducated jerks. They don't even know which part of their country is in Europe and which is not part of Europe making it the Middle East by default. When people don't know such simple facts about their own country and throw temper tantrums when every available academic source confirms this fact, they sound rude, uneducated, and obnoxious. Then, they assumed everyone in the Middle East are Arabs, and that's why they can't be in the Middle East... more ignorance. Not to mention the insults I had to deal with while citing around 20 sources as well as the treaty your own country signed designating which area was European and which area was not anymore. Most of the country is not. That one conversation put Turks in an incredibly negative light.
Then, one of the rudest and most racist people I've ever spoken to online was a Turk who started screaming I should be ashamed of who I am because my ancestors were slave dogs... unlike his wonderful Balkan ancestors... He never even asked what my heritage was, he just assumed. On top of that, he defended high teen pregnancy rates in the area and in eastern Europe stating that girls are meant to be pregnant as soon as they are able.
The only good example of a Turk I've ever seen is the one a girl I went to high school with married. He seems very reserved and sweet based on her posts about him. Never spoken to him though so who knows?
It is wrong to think that just because a few people you meet on the internet are ignorant, the entire Turkish nation is like that.
Look, Turkey is a very diverse country in terms of thought. The country has an ignorant side and an enlightened side.
Do not believe every person on the internet who says they are Turkish. Because there are people living in Turkey who are not Turkish, such as Kurds and Afghans, sometimes they think that Europeans do not like their race and say that they are Turks.
My advice to you is that if you are going to chat with a Turk, ask him if he is an Ataturkist, if he is an Ataturkist, chat with him. If not, I would not recommend him, he is probably ignorant.
Are we the ones who are separatists? Do not think that I despise the Kurds from what I just said. I even have friends who are Kurds. I cannot experience such a thing.
What does separatism have to do with Ataturkism?
I don't consider Turkey to be a bad country, but I am not interested in Turkey because it's had a homogenous culture for so long and there is not a lot of diversity in the country and I believe the flavour of travel and pleasure is diversity. My example for this is that in Canada, you can visit restaurants that produce foods from all nations and cultures and demographics at all levels of income whether high or low. In Turkey, there is less variety in culture and media and personal experiences.
You are wrong about this. Türkiye is a really good country in terms of diversity. Sometimes I even complain about this diversity, because too much diversity of thought and racial diversity can create some problems.
I've never been there except for a half day visit, so I'm going by impressions. But I am glad you enjoy Turkey.
People I know have visited turkey have had a great time. I would like to see archaeological sites as they are the oldest. Early European Farmers were from Anatolia so we are all hail from Turkey to a degree.
You are completely right
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In the name of honesty, I'm answering, so please don't take offense. The truth is, I don't know anything about Turkey except... I dunno... Hagia Sophia and that Istanbul was Constantinople... why they changed it, I can't say (people just liked it better that way?) 😂
Why isn't it on my travel bucket-list? Maybe out-dated impressions, but I think of it as a place with a lot of coffee and cigarettes, and I hate being around second-hand smoke. Perhaps this is incorrect or it has changed, but that's the stereotype I am fighting in my brain when I think "Turkey."
However, I have hired Turkish artists and was very pleased with their professionalism and results, I have friends of Turkish descent, and I really have no complaint about my limited experiences in those cases. So, why indeed?
Thanks for your honesty. There is smoking here as well as in European countries, but not more than there. I think Turkish coffee is what caused you to think this about coffee, but there is no such thing, we drink it with a small cup in the morning, we do not drink that much.
About Turkey, I think you only know Istanbul. There are other beautiful cities such as Cappadocia, Antalya and Izmir that you can visit.
I don't know any of them. I just know names that have been bandied about when studying the crusades and stuff. Beyond being a name I heard once, and the inside of Hagia Sophia showing up in a slide deck about architectural styles in an art-history class, I know zero, nothing about Turkey.
And the smoking, yes. I was dismayed to find other European countries with clouds of second-hand smoke as well, but for whatever reason, I think of "Turkish cigarettes" as being a thing and imagine guys with big black mustaches drinking really bitter/black coffee while chain-smoking, lol. I couldn't tell you what put that image in my mind, but it's stuck there now, for better or worse.
Oh my god, you know Turkey so wrong, the things you are describing are things that happened during the Ottoman period.😅
While history buffs generally come because Anatolia is a region where hundreds of civilizations lived and because of extreme sports, Russians generally prefer Turkey for sea holidays.
Well, I've said repeatedly that I don't know anything about modern Turkey. But this pict is the stereotype that comes to mind when I think of a Turkish man.
When I think of Turkish women... the ones I have dealt with were very professional and worthy of respect. The stereotype in my mind is they are exotic and don't take a lot of shit from people. I don't know how accurate this is, but this is an amalgamation of very incomplete data and next to no real-world experience.
If it was like in the photo, I would probably have escaped from Turkey long ago🤣. I hope you come and visit one day. If you come, I definitely recommend you to eat Iskender kebab, which is my favorite dish.
Thanks for the recommendations! :-D
Constantinople makes us remember byzantium past, thats why.
Also its offensive to refer istanbul as constantinople since its a Turkish city.
I didn’t know that Americans thought badly about Turkey., I was there for a brief couple of days and the food there was so delicious i still can’t stop thinking about it. And it’s been almost a year since then haha
I'm glad you liked it, what did you eat?
Praise Mustafa Kemal Atatürk for the freedom you enjoy
Rest assured I will definitely be doing this forever🫶🏼🫡
Yes thanks ataturk for everything.
I will always be a kemalist still my last breath but not to forget Ataturks reforms has been getting considered by ottoman since early 1800s way before Ataturk was even born.
Ataturks difference is unlike them he turned those ideas into reality.
*till
*considered by ottoman elite (not the ottomans itself)
I always heard turkey u have to dress a certain way they will cut your body parts off there is war over there
There is no such thing
I have been living in Turkey for years and I dress freely, there is no problem, we are a secular country, such a thing cannot happen.
There are terrorists coming to eastern Turkey from Syria and Iraq. As a result of their attacks, the fight against terrorism is being carried out. In fact, it would be wrong to call this a war. The war is between two countries, but there is no country we are fighting against, there are terrorists.
I want to go to Turkey to see the Basilica Cistern, Hagia Sophia, and a bunch of other old stuff. Maybe one day
we are infact an islamic country not just as strict as arabs
We are not an Islamic country, we are a secular country.😶
What matters are the laws. If we say we are an Islamic country, they will think that they cannot dress freely.
you said “majority”, which means not everyone. A conversation is not arguing.
“You are very prejudiced against turkey, it makes me sad”.
Who’s “you”?
Turkish
UK here. To be clear I don't dislike you because you were born in a shithole country with a totalitarian government. That's something neither of us asked for.
Just because the government is guilty, are we also guilty?
If I was born again and god gives me chance to choose where I will born, I would still choose Turkey
Ben oy vermediğime göre suçlu falan değilim
@Nehir You can speak for yourself, but it does not reflect the views of majority. Turkey/Türkiye is a country that steered its path to the West in terms of the renovations in lawmaking, yet still kept integrity in a way that it preserved its culture. People in Turkey/Türkiye are both ethnically and culturally closer to other West Asian and Middle-eastern countries rather than the ones in the West. In short, older generation, who is mainly the real perpetrator of this case, are at fault for choosing their stupid ideologies over the freedom of our nation. No one said you were totally wrong. I was trying to tell you that in this situation, it was just a bit nonsensical to expect sympathy from others.
We are not a Middle Eastern culture. Yes, I accept Asian culture, but it is not Middle Eastern. Our traditions come from Asian culture, at least that is what real Turks do.
@Nehir🤣🤣 Şaka mısın? Dilimizde bile binlerce Arapça ve Farsça kökenli sözcük var, Müslümanların dini lideri ve peygamberi Hz Muhammed (sav.) bir Arap. Evet, Arap değiliz, her adetimizde onlarla uyuşmuyor ama tabii ki de ortak bir geçmişimiz var ve bu da kültürümüzü etkilemiş. Aksini iddia etmek mantıksız ki bu sadece Anadolu Türkleri için geçerli bir durum da değil. Senin yaşam tarzın buna uygun olmuyor olabilir. Benimki de çok değil ama yine de bu ülkenin başından sonra her tarafının Doğu kültürüyle dolu olduğunu kabul ediyorum. Hani niye bize Orta Doğu Ülkesi gibi görüyorsunuz demek anlamsız zaten ortadoğu'dayız bunun yanı sıra zaten bir İslam ülkesiyiz sadece laik bir İslam ülkesiyiz. Toplumun çoğunluğunu Müslümanlığı din olarak benimsediği her ülke İslam ülkesidir.
www.mfa.gov.tr/islam-isbirligi-teskilati.tr.mfa Al sana kaynak.
Dilimizde Yüzlerce Fransızca sözcükte var Fransız kültürü ile mi uyuşuyoruz şimdik biz dinimiz ile kültürlerimizin bı alakası yok evet elbette din kaynaklı benzerlikler olabilir ama genel olarak Arap milleti ile uyusmuyoruz Toplum çokta ilgilendirmiyor açıkçası beni kanunlara bakarım Laikmiyiz evet benim için bitmiştir mesele
O kelimelerin çoğu daha az tercih ediliyor ilginç yerine enteresan diyen kişi sayısı çok daha azdır ya da egemenlik yerine hegemonya kelimesini kullanmayı kimse tercih etmez ama Sağ olun demek yerine Teşekkür ederim diyen çok fazla insan var. Toplum seni ilgilendirmeyebilir ama başkaları bizi niye böyle görüyor diye soruyorsan, içinde bulunduğun toplumdan ötürü.
Buna yapabileceğin bir şey yok.
Az tercih edilmesi yada çok tercih edilmesi eğitim ile alakalı bir durum ben zaten neden böyle gördüklerinin farkındayım sadece onlardan duymak istedim farklı nedenlerde varmı diye
Ask an Armenian.
(Cue the excuses...)
lol. Great. Thank you for sharing.
What a beautiful picture
No we are ok with you
The color photo above is often seen in places like Alaçatı and Antalya.
The photo below is of the Maiden's Tower in Istanbul.
I'm glad you don't have any problems with us
I came to read the comments
Why?
Are you Turkish by any chance
Watch this , you will understand all
Oh shit, I forgot to post the video. I can't post the link aswell because of my xper level
Go to youtube search erlik
Watch his video called Neden Biz
You will understand deeply rooted anti turkist roots and orientalism of the western society.
İngilizce konusmana gerek yok😄
Merak etme ben neden olduğunu biliyorum sadece bu duruma onların düşüncesini öğrenmek istedim
Neden olucak ülkedeki aptal geri kafalar yüzünden
Rezil ediyorlar bizi
Buda bizim sinavimiz iste hocam. Ne yapicaz biz bu tiplerle atsan atilmaz satsan satilmazlar. Elden birsey gelmiyor
Çok doğru içimdeki Arap nefreti yine alevlendi valla 😬
Onların irkilari umrumda değil zaten bu ırktan ziyade kültürlerini kınıyorum bu kadar akillanmaz bir millet mi olur bu kadar nankör onlar bizim dost sandığımız düşmanlarımız yarın bir savaş çıksa eminimki yanımızda olmazlar daha önce olduğu gibi bizi saticaklar
Birde tabi geçen gün yaşanilan Atatürk olayı onlara karşı kibrimi artırdı
Zaten suçun büyüğü bizdede o konuda hükümet değişmeden eğitim değişmeden bu böyle devam edicek
Evet o açıdan iyi oldu gerçekten her dakika haberleri kontrol ettim sakın çıkmasınlar diye TFF kalsa gece yarısı maça cikaracakti ikna edip
I never even think of you
I don't care about you either
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