Manafort and Cohen: Two of the President's men, guilty.

Manafort and Cohen: Two of the President's men, guilty.

Today has certainly been an incriminating day in the United States Government. Two of the president's top men Michael Cohen and Paul Manafort have been found guilty of crimes that directly could tie back to the Trump Administration.

First of all, Let's look at the Manafort verdict. Manafort was convicted of 8 of the 18 charges brought against him. Charges of Tax fraud, hiding international bank accounts, and bank fraud. The other ten charges were considered a mistrial. Manafort is expected back in a DC area court for more possible convictions later. Here is a breakdown of the counts he was found guilty on.

Count 1: Tax Fraud — Subscribing to false US individual income tax returns in 2010 (3 year maximum sentence)
Count 2: Tax Fraud — Subscribing to false US individual income tax returns in 2011 (3 year max sentence)
Count 3: Tax Fraud - Subscribing to false US individual income tax returns in 2012 (3 year maximum sentence)
Count 4: Tax Fraud — Subscribing to false US individual income tax returns in 2013 (3 year maximum sentence)
Count 5: Tax Fraud — Subscribing to false US individual income tax returns in 2014 (3 year maximum sentence)
Count 12: Hiding Foreign Bank Accounts — Failure to File Reports of Foreign Bank and Financial Accounts in 2012 (5 year maximum sentence)
Count 25: Bank Fraud — $3.4 million Citizens Bank loan (30 year maximum sentence)
Count 27: Bank Fraud — $1 million Bank of California loan (30 year maximum sentence)

Michael Cohen pleaded guilty today on eight counts of tax evasion, lying to a financial institution, and campaign finance violations. Cohen said that "in coordination and at the direction of a candidate for federal office," he kept information that would have been harmful to the candidate and the campaign from becoming public. This means Cohen has admitted to paying off Stormy Daniels at the advice of Trump. So long story short, Trump has been implicated.

Other news today also has involved Mollie Tibbets a missing Iowa college student who went missing. It has now been known her body was found in a cornfield and a 24-year-old illegal immigrant has been arrested in connection to the case.

Whether you want to admit it or not, this has been a wild news day. What do you think is going to be next in the Robert Mueller investigation? How much longer do you think it will be until we see another Watergate or Teapot Dome style hearing?

#Whosnext?

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  • nightdrot
    It was a wild news day, though what the last one has to do with the first two escapes me. If anything, the last strengthens the President's position. Not in the sense that on either side the most extreme partisans will be persuaded. For GOP activists and funders, this is evidence of what President Trump has been saying. For Democrat activists and funders, this is simply a statistic that does not change the fact that most immigrants are honest - leaving aside that they broke immigration laws.

    However, for the middle, and for those Republicans and Democrats who are voters but are not the most partisan, what had once seemed an abstraction and a distant argument has just been given very explicit and concrete form - right in middle America. It is hard to imagine a case more likely to tip the scales of the debate.

    As to the Manafort case, it only really impacts the President insofar as it confirms the obvious - that the President associates with not especially savory characters. That said, everything Manafort was convicted of well pre-dates his association with Mr. Trump and so probably makes very little practical difference.

    Mr. Manafort's next trial - involving his failure to register as a foreign agent - may have more bearing. Even that, however, does not seem likely. Stay tuned.

    The Cohen case is a horse of a different color insofar as it suggests the President may have engaged in illegal campaign activities. Even here, though, the effect may be less than it seems.

    As a general rule, campaign violations are penalized by fines. They hardly reach the level of Constitutional "high crimes and misdemeanors." In that connection, convictions in such cases are extremely hard to come by. See also Senator John Edwards who was charged with exactly what the President could be indicted for - and was exonerated despite more evidence than exists so far against Trump.

    The irony is that - unsavory figures, petty corruption, sex scandals - Mr. Trump resembles no one so much as the husband of the woman he defeated. We had a referendum in the 1990s on such things - in the form of an impeachment of President Bill Clinton - and unsavory figures, petty corruption and sex scandals won.

    The Democrats would, in that sense, be hard pressed to bring an impeachment. At least with a straight face.

    While I am no fan of Mr. Trump, the way to defeat him is not to bypass the hard work of making cogent arguments against him. In that connection, impeachment will not get you there.
    Is this still revelant?
  • Anon-ymous1
    His sheep won't care; they don't care. Hell at a rally last night I heard they were, even still, a year and a half after the election, yelling "lock her up" or something like they were during the campaign. They're idiots. They're trash.

    And people who are idiotic trash are not concerned with facts or reality.
    Is this still revelant?
    • I am very curious to see how this all ends. It's almost like a Shakespearean Drama

    • sinastyle

      I hope the members of the Senate and the House of Representatives will decide on a possible impeachment trial against Trump.

    • @sinastyle They won't.

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  • QueenofCups
    At that point, President Warren G. Harding, showing the kind of class Nixon could only dream of, died.
    Is this still revelant?
    • from a legal standpoint, what is your takeaway from all of this?

    • Mueller's case is getting stronger, but his crusade is politically motivated.

    • It's going to be interesting to see how Trump plays in to all of this

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  • Jack_L_andTurn
    Manafort's all occurred before the campaign.

    Cohen's is hilarious - financial payments for confidentiality agreements are so common that even Stormy Daniels's attorney did so with his former partner Jason Frank.

    Trump is an obnoxious adulterer, but these charges are either unconnected or laughable.
  • TripleAce
    Everyone is guilty... it’s just who has a vendetta against you and who is willing to figure it out and press charges
    Remember all that stuff Hillary was guilty of lol... like murder, stealing money... Clinton... yup lol

    • goaded

      Not everyone is guilty, that's ridiculous. Are you a murderer?

    • TripleAce

      @goaded everyone in office is guilty of something... like 70% if not more have fraud on their resume lol...

    • So much for draining that swamp. He's just adding to it.

  • Browneye57
    The funny thing about it all is that they having nothing to do with Trump. Total media fail.
    That's like saying your teacher went to jail for pedophilia, and somehow that reflects on you. Or your lawyer is convicted for tax fraud. What exactly does that have to do with you?
    • goaded

      They're Trump's lawyer and his campaign manager, how is that "nothing to do with Trump"?

    • @goaded - Because he is not them. Guilt by association is not a valid crime.

    • goaded

      Conspiracy to commit a crime is, though, and that's what Cohen admitted to.

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  • MidnightCowboy
    All of them deserve prison time Manafort to Trump

  • Waffles731
    Let's hope they both get repeated anally penetrated in prison
  • Interesting, thanks for the summery and the news update for the day!!
  • AriesMan
    Why is this such a shock? The most successful people, whether in the business world or EVEN IN POLITICS, lie and cheat. What makes Trump different is that he will go against the grain of Washington DC to make his mark and you have to like him for that when other politicians of the past catered to political sentiments and party stances. Trump will fight both Republican and Democrat! As George Carlin said when joking about politicians, "This is the best we can do folks, garbage in and garbage out!" No real honest people of integrity will ever make it as a politician, they just don't lie as well to get the votes and they are dealing with the cesspool of liars who will do everything to ruin them before they can rise up to power in politics! See how Trump is perfect for that world?
  • WhitePanther88
    Eh tax evasion so what. When you look at all the shit that went on in the Clinton Whitehouse it's really small frys.
    Whitewater controversy
    Chinagate
    Campbell v. Clinton
    Hillary Clinton cattle futures controversy
    Barrett Report
    Bill Clinton pardon controversy
    Clinton–Lewinsky scandal
    Bill Clinton sexual misconduct allegations
    Commerce Department trade mission controversy
    Defense of Marriage Act
    Vince Foster suicide
    Gala Hollywood Farewell Salute to President Clinton
    Lincoln Bedroom for contributors controversy
    Wampumgate
    White House FBI files controversy
    White House travel office controversy

    ... and that before the Clinton foundation was set up, Hillary held office and bill Clinton was taking trips on Lolita airlines to Jeffrey Epstein' s peadophille island.
  • theflash675
    all of congress and former presidents should be in prison too.
  • Jonny317
    It's only a matter of time before DJT is directly implicated. When the Blue Wave hits, watch out.
  • TsubasaCorrupted
    I love how he hires the best people, and his own personal former lawyer of years he now calls a weak liar.
  • MarketData
    That ought to justify a witch hunt against illegal immigrants... whether he's found guilty or not!
  • NatureBeauty
    What a sad day for the Republicans lol
  • Interesting take
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