When are our Schools going to Wise up and Provide more Security for our children?

[Paris13]

SantaFe, Texas, School shooting. Eight dead. Another tragedy. 22 this year already. xx

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Maniacs kill people and can get a gun no matter how. xx

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A total of 10 dead now. xx

[SammyGurl]

Bingo!! Finally someone who sees things for what they are. It isn't the guns that are killing other children it is their own peers who are killing them. This in fact is more horrorific than blaming firearms for killing school children at the hand of other school children.

I mean, when are we as a society going to wake up and realize that we have a problem which 95% of that problem isn't firearms; its kids who kill other kids. The way I see it, no one who commits mass murder is either sane or normal, this is a very abnormal behavior whi we as a society better start asking what we are doing wrong.

I've both heard it said and read of some who hold the oppinion that it may be the breakup of the home, where the lack of a structured interaction with a mom, a dad, other family members rather than a stress filled life of abuse, bullying, harassment and tons of other demeaning treatment heaped on them from an early age.

Perhaps it is the school system itself, one which is placing such a high price on success that it's taking away their personal identity, one where they feel like a square peg being forced through a hole that isn't square at all.

Having just finished up my Masters Degree in Mechanical Engineering, I've watched many students who were either ill prepared for the field of study of just didn't have the drive to finish. I've watched them wash out, watched them in a panic of how they are going to face mom and dad after failing; studies have become so inclusive anymore that everyone is included no matter if they have the aptitude or even the wherewithal to make it through such an intense field.

I watch and wonder if these kids, just like me aren't going to be the next one to snap and start killing others. I've watched three classmatesq from community college to university commit suicide, likely because they felt themselves such a failure that they couldn't crawl out of the hole they found themselves.

I watched as a 19 year old girl who was a very close friend, committed suicide, because she couldn't live with the guilt after her former boyfriend forced her to have an abortion. She told me that she felt like she murdered her own child, I could never help her with that guilt.

These are just a few of my observations on but a few of what could be the root causes of the issue. Maybe one of the saddest, is that we as a people hold such little value on another person's life, our own included.

[Paris13]

Amazing!!! A true conservative. Our forefathers would be proud of you. Annie, get your gun, hun, do not back down. We need gals like you to get the enemy. Why don't schools start protecting their kids by protecting their entrances? xx

[SammyGurl]

Thank You!!
Guess I gott a little wound up, this all just hits too close to home.

[PinkChampagne]

This is a tragedy... I don't think that even teachers wearing guns would help... I think there should be more strict standards about entering the school... Like these machines who scan for metal and more guards...

[Paris13]

Thank you and Yes, so right, Lovely!! xxoo

[govgovigovioto]

That is expensive and s bit impractical but concealed carry has shown to prevent mass shootings so I don't know why that wouldn't work considering historic statistics.

[jimmijo1954]

What if you scant get enough conceal carry people? Then you end up paying for it anyway

[Paris13]

@jimmijo1954 MHO to my friend. xx

[PinkChampagne]

Thank you Paris 🤗🤗🤗

[bklynbadboy1]

I don't think they will they're too caught up on the wrong things every time somebody gets shot with a gun they always talk about the gun manufacturer whenever somebody makes a bomb and blow somebody up there never say I'm going to stop the bomb manufacturer from making the products that you make a bomb from. These people are obviously mentally unstable you got millions of people in the United States that have guns legally you don't see them going around shooting people up what are we going to do about mental health in this country cuz that's the real problems is not guns or knives it's Mental Health when are we going to approach that subject. We have all these different breakthroughs and everything else they got about 12 different pills to give a guy a hard-on that's not supposed to have one when he supposed to be impotent but they're not doing anything for mental health is not even a subject people talk about

[Paris13]

Well put!!! xx

[Hilow4more]

Identifying mental illness would be a good step

[govgovigovioto]

True all the mass shooters use ssris to treat depression that's not a coincidence and we can use this fact to take guns away from crazy people opposed to law abbiding citizens

[majorG]

Tired of that smear. Mentally ill people are statistically LESS violent than the general population.

Newsflash: Normal people get angry. Normal people get bitter. Some normal people are just huge assholes.

Stop blaming mental illness, which, by the way exists all over the world, but only causes mass casualties all the time in America.

[BeNiceToGirls]

@majorG because they're a convenient scapegoat.

[govgovigovioto]

One who is actually responsible for all mass shootings find me a mass shooter who wasn't mentally ill

[BeNiceToGirls]

@govgovigovioto nearly everyone in America is mentally ill, so just by pure statistics if you pick someone at random to be a mass shooter, they will likely have a mental illness because the pond is poisoned.

[jacquesvol]

@BeNiceToGirls Some states think that allowing weed will help. Sharon Tate was cruelly murdered by a group of potheads.
It won't

[BeNiceToGirls]

@jacquesvol

[jacquesvol]

@Hilow4more
Chief Justice John Roberts held that:
"The Court’s opinion should NOT be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms."
www.countable.us/.../2828-does-supreme-court-say-restrictions-second-amendment
Thus according to him, any lunatic should be able to buy AND carry a gun in schools and govt buildings.

[jacquesvol]

But existing laws may continue.

[Paris13]

Main step, YES. xx

[BeNiceToGirls]

Identify all the mentally illness you want.

The killings will continue.

Try to understand the scope and severity of the problem: American children are so distraught that violence is the only reasonable solution they see. And they're not wrong.

[TheCookieDealer]

This is only partly about gun laws, the US really needs to drop its narcissism and copy other countries their statistics and laws to keep the security.
If Japanese people want to own a gun, they must attend an all-day class, pass a written test, and achieve at least a 95% accuracy during a shooting-range test.
Then they have to pass a mental-health evaluation at a hospital, as well as a background check
In result, there's only 10 shooting homicides per year, for a population of 127 million people. Australia paid gun-owners for selling them to the government and this dropped all homiced and suicides with firearms over half of its original number.

[Paris13]

Thanks, smart Cookie!!! xx

[majorG]

That is ridiculous. It is schools' job to educate children. Not to fight off heavily-armed gunmen.

Just the point that you're even having this debate in the US shows the need for said education.

People who claim that guns make society safer and that gun control wouldn't make a difference are either ignorant or consider the victims piling up an acceptable price for widespread gun ownership.

It is sickening. Yes, people throw tantrums everywhere. No, in most countries they do not have easy access to high-powered weaponry.

[Thisperson98]

All the proposed gun controls laws wouldn't do anything to stop shootings.

[majorG]

@Thisperson98 So what is your plan?

[govgovigovioto]

Ignorent like you. Have you looked at France. They have mass shootings all the time. Also if you actually look at the statistics instead of your flawed logic you will find that there is a mathmatc inverse correlation between guns and violent crime with very few exceptions. Most of thoes places with ecceptions to the rule had their country murder a whole lot of people like China in the cultural revolution. Learn your history and the numbers before you call others ignorent it just makes you look stupid.

[govgovigovioto]

Ccws are the only thing shown to prevent mass shootings. Let's try allowing almost every one to carry a concealed weapon. It works and nothing else does I think it's a simple choice.

[majorG]

@govgovigovioto Maybe you'd like to add up the number of people shot in France over the past few years and compare that to the States? You are comparing major terrorist attacks to the daily mass shootings taking place in the US? To the American cities blighted by gun violence? To all the American guns flowing into Mexico, keeping the cartel violence going there? Really? Are you out of your fucking mind?

[majorG]

@govgovigovioto Simpler, yes. Dumber, yes. Solution, no.

[govgovigovioto]

Have you looked at the statistics yes or no?

[majorG]

Take France's rate of gun deaths. Multiply it by 22. That is America's rate. Dumbass.

[govgovigovioto]

What about with knives let's talk about general murder rate

[govgovigovioto]

Also y is it not 0 if guns are not allowed

[govgovigovioto]

Look at England and Australia directly following their ban on guns up to today. It started with an increase in gun violence followed by a massive increase in knife related crimes ultomently leading to more violent crime

[majorG]

@govgovigovioto Nice lies bro.

[majorG]

@govgovigovioto If you had bothered to look at other sources than Trump's Twitter feed, you would know that America's homicide rate dwarfs those of the UK, France, and whatever other places you pulled out of your ass.

[TheBillusBillus]

Have you looked into what's been happening in China lately with school stabbings? Keep in mind, it's basically impossible for individuals to legally own guns there and the laws are strictly enforced with the death penalty in play.

[Paris13]

I believe the Good guy, the sound guy, should be locked and loaded for all nut jobs. xx

[kenworth]

There are no gun laws that will stop criminals from gettin ahold of a gun. They arn't getting them legally in the first place. For the most part. We need to stop treating our kids like babies and teach them how to stand up for themselves as soon as tthey are able to stand up. And that guns or knives ar not needed. Just our hands and feet.

[Paris13]

And look for any mental issues. This kid had a few and yet, no one said anything. xx

[kenworth]

That is true. I know i've lived if a few states within the United States. While i won't say i know all the states laws for getting a purchace permit for a hand gun. All the states i lived in required me to get two additional people to write letters. Stating they thought i was a responsible person callable of owning and taking care of my gun. These had to be summited by the other people themselves. That way i wouldn't know what they said. I'm sure these people had to do similar things. These people should and could have said it in those letters without the shooter knowing what was said or by whome. When he or she gets told they were denied. The person telling them should say they don't know the report was done by the FBI. Then he or she would have to obtaine one illegally if they still wanted one bad enough

[TheBillusBillus]

Well said. Schools get shot up and kids die because they are not well defended. When was the last time someone shotup a military compound or police station and got away with it? Regarding when will they be protected? No one knows. That's the issue with public schools. Unfortunately, not everyone can sent their children to private institutions or home school them.

[Mypage]

Guns are the only effective means to defend ones self. Thats why cops have them. Duh... 👍

[TheBillusBillus]

On a micro scale, agreed. A good conceal carry is basically as foolproof of a method possible for self defense. On a macro scale, it's nukes.

[Mypage]

Love this guy! 😂👌

[Paris13]

Even YOUTUBE is getting attacked, how wacked!!! xx

[EvilAngel114]

Getting metal detector would be a start. Clear backpacks as stupid as it is and no baggy clothes. Uniforms (also as stupid as they are). 10 foot brick all surrounding the back outdoor area. There are so many things that schools can do. Why don’t they? Who knows. Maybe lack of funding.

[jimmijo1954]

It’s not lack of funding- who can put a price on our kids lives? They won’t harden these soft targets because that would solve this problem and the dems only want this problem solved by disarming America. It makes too much sense- they know it/- they will do anything to mock it, demean it, anything but agree with it_ just like solving immigration debacle- the dems want it to remain a problem so they can import a new velectirate- the dems are pure evil...

[Paris13]

Exactly!!! xx

[EvilAngel114]

No I complete agree with you but with all of these shootings going on... that have been going on, you’d think the schools would have done something by now to help protect their children. For instance, I went to have lunch with my little cousin a few weeks ago. Walked right into the school of unlocked doors and directly to his classroom. That’s not safe. I’ve seen news interviews that the city doesn’t have the funding to install or hire better security. Which I see to be a problem. I guess home school would be a fix. Disarming America will not solve the problem. Not sure why so many people think that. Bottom line is... there’s a lot that can be done to prevent this from happening.

[Paris13]

Absolutely, but from what I am hearing, it is the money deal. One cannot put a price on a life. xx

[gotc147]

There have not been 22 school shootings this year, there has been about 5, only two of which ended with multiple fatalities.

Anywho, as long as the Democrats have any power anywhere, schools will remain soft targets.

Either out of foolishness or out of malice, the Democrats simply refuse to accept that someone being present who can shoot back right away is a good thing, despite the mountain of incontrovertible evidence.

[Paris13]

You said the golden word: DEMO. xx

[jacquesvol]

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[jacquesvol]

German nationalist? Not on his cap.

[jacquesvol]

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[jacquesvol]

They say he's Dimitrios Pagourtzis
www.thedailybeast.com/dimitrios-pagourtzis-reportedly-idd-as-santa-fe-texas-shooting-suspect

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[jacquesvol]

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[jacquesvol]

The Iron Cross on the parka is German military.

[Paris13]

Mental illness for sure, yes. xx

[Paris13]

He was bullied and retaliated. xx

[PussiCatNeko]

Here's a radical fucking idea! Instead let's fucking ban guns in america completely and then you won't have a need for protection. Americans are a bunch of dick heads! Here in Australia where guns are banned not a single incident!

Bam! There's your issue.

[Paris13]

Ban guns, hun? We have to stay locked and loaded for nutjobs like this One who came in trigger happy. xx

[jimmijo1954]

@Pussytheass- Bam! Your a dumbass! Talk about a nation of pussys- you aussies just bent over and took it up the ass when they told you to hand over your guns- just like good little slaves. You don’t know jack about Americans- they will never allow their guns rights be fucked with, if you have to be told about this cultural difference it’s like💨💨why bother🗣?

[PussiCatNeko]

This is what I am talking about you bigots! If guns were not around then that would not have happened.

[PussiCatNeko]

Oh and jimmijo, we haven't had any gun tragedies since we gave up our guns.

[BeNiceToGirls]

Laws only affect the law-abiding.

If you remove all the guns, the killers will make bombs instead.

Treat the disease, not the symptoms.

[PussiCatNeko]

Guns are the desease

[BeNiceToGirls]

Guns are not the disease.

If guns were the disease, the military would be killing each other all the time.

Find out what motivates people to kill other people.

The 9/11 attackers didn't use a single gun yet they killed thousands.

[BeNiceToGirls]

Treat the source, not the symptom.

Mass violence is only a symptom, a reaction.

Providing "more security for children" is like putting a band-aid on a severed leg.

Treat the source, not the symptom. Cure the disease and the ailments will leave too.

[TheBillusBillus]

Stalin would have told you that the ultimate source of all problems is humanity itself. Ready to do a genocide run IRL?

[BeNiceToGirls]

@TheBillusBillus
I've never heard that before. But when you're right, you're right.

[jimmijo1954]

@BeNiceToGirls-all of that takes time- of course it makes sense- it could literally take a generation to do- what do we do in the meantime? Harden the fuck out of our idiotic soft targets. If in a few years we happen to solve the mental health crisis- so much the better.

[BeNiceToGirls]

@jimmijo1954
The mental health crisis is a symptom, a response.

Depressed about living in the chaotic insanity of America? Normal, healthy, accurate response to surrounding conditions.

[Paris13]

I wish we had read this when Obamie in office. xx

[BeNiceToGirls]

What difference do you think that would make?

[jimmijo1954]

Defining America as chaotic insanity is nonsense- and defining the mental health crisis is caused by depression from living here is ludicrous.

[jimmijo1954]

You may be right the solution should address the source rather than the symptom, but it’s a huge leap for you to suggest you have diagnosed it like you just did. It is not that simple. Mass murder has not been connected to depression as far as I know.

[LisaLisa89]

It needs central government to introduce strict controls on ownership, such as those that exist in countries which do not experience these problems with the same frequency. You can never stop all such atrocities, but you can reduce the number.

[Paris13]

Seems to be a lot going on in USA. xx

[yousir]

"More government" is not the fix for anything. I'd rather some of that exorbitant school spending was used for metal detectors or other security measures rather than making sure every preschooler has a laptop to spill koolaid on.

[gotc147]

I'd much rather risk getting shot then risk going to jail for offending people on the internet.

Death is preferable to bondage.

[TheBillusBillus]

Classic example of an American that forgot the founding principles people fought and died for. How depressing. Looks like someone forgot why the US is called the UNITED STATES. The whole point of the Union is so that a single tyrannical state cannot be formed. Washington just rolled over in his grave.

[gotc147]

@TheBillusBillus LisaLisa89 is from the UK, according to her profile.

[GuyWhatRunsThePlace]

When parents start doing their jobs and raising their kids.

[Paris13]

I think Mental illness cannot be helped by parents who may not even know it when kids do not show it or if they know, they are up and arms with this. xx

[Yakasmashi]

I don't know... but it not the schools. It the kids who bring the weapons... but... there should be at least 5 to 20 security guards depending on the size of the school and have each student before walk in the door empty jackets , pockets , etc..

[Paris13]

Security Guards, yes. xx

[Yakasmashi]

Yep 10 dead 10 injured and 1 dead in the Georgia high school and 1 injured during graduation

[codycccccc]

People killed another for millennium before guns and will kill each other long after plus there is things in the average school that can be used to kill far more people then a gun could

[Paris13]

It's grown worse since Obama. xx

[codycccccc]

Missed my point completely

[Iamanintrovert]

He means we can't stop a killer but we can stop that type of attitude in future. If you secure the gate I will kill outside the gate. Psycology and mental illness should change not schools kid.

[Leafpool2]

There were armed gaurds at that school. It was Texas, and hey guess what adding more guns did jack shit.

[gotc147]

The kid used a shotgun and a revolver, so banning AR-15's would not have done shit.

[Mypage]

So its better to go to war with a smaller military? This lady is a idiot! Yes more guns is more protection.

[Paris13]

Nothing like that was mentioned, only they did say a couple of someone's there who just didn't care, or the shooter would never have gotten In within. xx

[Mypage]

Ops.. I forgot to for example..

[Mypage]

She said no more guns.. More guns more territory.. In large cities its one cop for 20,000 people. Duh.. In a large achool what is it one gaurd per 2000 students? What a bunch of idiots. Leftists are idiots..

[Mypage]

Gaurds can't be everywhere at once more gaurds can.. Duh..

[Jack776]

Parents have to get over their fear of anyone having a gun, not just "bad guys" let's not forgethow many school shooting were PREVENTED by normal citizenswith guns.

[VincentLaw]

Exactly. People just don't want anything to do with them instead of realizing they are the most effective means of keeping people safe from these lunatics. Gun-free zones have done nothing but painted a target on people's backs, including the backs of our children

[majorG]

Yes, let's not forget that, maybe you could tell us? Thank you.

Also, you are 28 and still talk about "good guys" and "bad guys"? Really? Some people outgrow that in primary school. Oh well.

[jacquesvol]

@Jack776 Tell us about those "many school shootings" PREVENTED by normal citizens with guns.

[VincentLaw]

@jacquesvol I mean there was one just this week, not to mention the guy that chased down the other Texas shooter at the church last November.

[jacquesvol]

@VincentLaw the guy that chased down the other Texas shooter at the church last November did it AFTER the mass killing. Not BEFORE.
And I read about the one who shot an armed guy in a school. He is a security guard , not a simple armed citizen. He was just doing his job.

[VincentLaw]

What did you think the guy was going to do? I don't think he was going to go home and watch Netflix.

[TheBillusBillus]

Thank you! More often than not, guns are what prevents violence.

[jacquesvol]

@TheBillusBillus Guns preventing violence? That may work elsewhere (who knows?), but does clearly NOT work in the US.

[Jack776]

That's why we have every police officer with one. They do prevent violence and death of innocent people.

[jacquesvol]

@VincentLaw in my opinion, the problem isn't guns in the hands of gangsters.

the problem is more guns in the hands of angry, drunk or mentally troubled people. People with a personal grudge against society.

[majorG]

Police officers are screened and selected, put through extensive firearms training, and employed by the state to keep citizens safe. Do bad apples slip through once in a while? Yes. Do some organisations seem to have a bad culture? Yes. But the whole thing is not comparable to flooding a country with firearms that are freely available to pretty much anyone that can pay. That's what happened in Iraq. Turned into a failed state...

[Paris13]

Exactly. The Ones with Guns should lock them up better, the guns that is!!! xx

[jacquesvol]

@Paris13 That's evident but many gun owners prefer to keep their guns within reach.

[duckster]

Crystal methamphetamine, a purchase of a single gram by anyone is a jail sentence, but yet people still buy it... Guns will be the same way so you can't limit gun sales it onkyakes it harder on the law abiding citizens.

[Paris13]

I agree, Conservative. Stay Locked and Loaded, Bad times Coming. We nee to take down all of those bad asses!!! xx

[jacquesvol]

Anny, get your gun!
(Or are you Bonnie without Clyde?)

[21feminist]

I think Trump suggested allowing teachers with a licensed firearms to carry on school, which to be honest just makes sense to me. Over 500000 lives are saved by guns yearly, the feds did the research you can check it if you don't believe me. So I think it's safe to say that there's evidence to show that Trumps suggestion could be implemented.

[jimmijo1954]

Exactly what I have said all along. How stupid are we to send our kids to a soft target all day and expect them to be safe? Its insane!

[Paris13]

You said a mouthful, love. xx

[JDavid25]

They should start installin metal detectors like they had at many of my schools.. LOL..

[Paris13]

A father who lost his child from parkland said the same thing, David. No joke. xx

[JDavid25]

Yep, I mean I get that they wanna make these suburban children not feel like they in prison, or a bad school by not installin them, but I mean.. LOL.. Shoo..

[Mypage]

Countries where everyone is requered to carry a goverment issued a gun, who doesn't want to live their? CRIMINALS!

[jacquesvol]

@Mypage, tell us which country that is.

[Mypage]

Switzerland..

[jacquesvol]

Governments issues guns but citizens only carry them on exercise. They have no ammo at home. And many times, the gun is stored at the nearest army base.

[Mypage]

Ya, after 2007.. Before that no.. Mass shooting never happened! Only suicides.. But their is no need to call me out on a gun recall law change! Fact is fact!

[Mypage]

Also 5 cities in america made it a law also. Look it up, dont just say im wrong and have me prove it..

[jacquesvol]

@Mypage
I read they changed the law because too many household fights were 'solved' using a gun.

[Mypage]

Depends on how you paint it. They also have the lowest incest rates, why? Household fights or she's packing heat so no one can creep on her.. Those that have failed for a reason!

[Mypage]

Not so in america..

[jacquesvol]

Zilch to do with incest. And Switzerland is a civilized country, pretty creep free.

[Mypage]

Yes why are they creep free? Guns! Whats the way a cop protects himself or others in America?

[Mypage]

I get it your the type that a idealist. Maybe we should talk about why we should go to war without guns.

[jacquesvol]

@Mypage www.google.com/search

And soldiers know about fragging.

[Mypage]

Of couse its called badboy horseplay. In muslim military war games they stab each other with knifes. Torchure each other.. Soft targets lose in war. Man up..

[jacquesvol]

Fragging often ends fatally.

[Mypage]

And yes most police served in the military. They are trained to kill. Oh i get it, your those liberals that ruined our military..

[Mypage]

War often ends in fatality. So should we not carry guns when we go to war? Should a cop throw their gun away when they are shot at?

[Mypage]

Dont carry a gun everyone, you might hurt someone if they are trying to murder you. 😂

[jacquesvol]

@Mypage you might just meet a guy who's faster on the draw than Wyatt Earp.
What about all collateral dmage if you want to play daily Gunfight at OK Corral in the streets?

[Mypage]

Thats not a worry. Whats worse anther mass shooting? I get it your like that cop who stood by as the shooter killed everyone because he didn't want to get hurt, what a baby. Trumps correct, you leftists are like that loser cop.

[Mypage]

You shouldn't join the military you might run from your post and cause everyone to die.

[jacquesvol]

Cops are trained, John Smith is at best an average marksman.
That cop waiting outside is a shame. A terrible coward.

[jacquesvol]

As long as you keep that 2nd amendment en guns being sold in supermarkets, you'll get regular mas shootings. In the US you need a license and insurance to drive a car. But only $1K to buy an AR-15.

[jacquesvol]

Update: yes, a decided criminal with connections CAN get a gun even with gun control. But that won't be as easy as going to the supermarket and buying one. And criminals are rather lazy.

[Mypage]

You shouldn't join the military or be a gaurd you might run from your post and cause everyone to die.

[jacquesvol]

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[TheBillusBillus]

@jacquesvol Basically Switzerland. Military service is mandatory for all men and about half of women will volunteer for the same period too. This leaves about 3/4 of the country's adults with military training. After the conscription period, almost everyone involved is issued a service weapon that they are allowed to take home. Up until 2008, ammunition was issued too. While the weapon belongs to the state (government issued), you are allowed to practice with the weapon using live ammunition and when needed, you can always defend your home with it.

[jacquesvol]

Bad link

https://i.imgur.com/B4nEPtR.jpg

[Mypage]

Redherring post. Logic states you should get a job as a security guard, cop, soldier etc.. If you think like that..

[Mypage]

Thebilis is correct. Its on wiki..

[Paris13]

You've got Criminals right!! xx

[jacquesvol]

@TheBillusBillus live military ammo is only available t the shooting range, not taken home or for sale in the supermarket since Switzerlland signed the Shengen treaty

[Mypage]

He said that, the weapons are allowed to be kept at home scaled back with permissions. Basically buy your ammo use goverment scaled back gun. The point isn't how the law has changed.

[Mypage]

The point is CRIMINALS usally go for the weak without weapons. Do you hear off drive by shootings at miltary bases? No, why? Guns..

[Paris13]

Society has, Yes. xx

[Mypage]

👌 true