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SantaFe, Texas, School shooting. Eight dead. Another tragedy. 22 this year already. xx
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Maniacs kill people and can get a gun no matter how. xx
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A total of 10 dead now. xx
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Bingo!! Finally someone who sees things for what they are. It isn't the guns that are killing other children it is their own peers who are killing them. This in fact is more horrorific than blaming firearms for killing school children at the hand of other school children.
I mean, when are we as a society going to wake up and realize that we have a problem which 95% of that problem isn't firearms; its kids who kill other kids. The way I see it, no one who commits mass murder is either sane or normal, this is a very abnormal behavior whi we as a society better start asking what we are doing wrong.
I've both heard it said and read of some who hold the oppinion that it may be the breakup of the home, where the lack of a structured interaction with a mom, a dad, other family members rather than a stress filled life of abuse, bullying, harassment and tons of other demeaning treatment heaped on them from an early age.
Perhaps it is the school system itself, one which is placing such a high price on success that it's taking away their personal identity, one where they feel like a square peg being forced through a hole that isn't square at all.
Having just finished up my Masters Degree in Mechanical Engineering, I've watched many students who were either ill prepared for the field of study of just didn't have the drive to finish. I've watched them wash out, watched them in a panic of how they are going to face mom and dad after failing; studies have become so inclusive anymore that everyone is included no matter if they have the aptitude or even the wherewithal to make it through such an intense field.
I watch and wonder if these kids, just like me aren't going to be the next one to snap and start killing others. I've watched three classmatesq from community college to university commit suicide, likely because they felt themselves such a failure that they couldn't crawl out of the hole they found themselves.
I watched as a 19 year old girl who was a very close friend, committed suicide, because she couldn't live with the guilt after her former boyfriend forced her to have an abortion. She told me that she felt like she murdered her own child, I could never help her with that guilt.
These are just a few of my observations on but a few of what could be the root causes of the issue. Maybe one of the saddest, is that we as a people hold such little value on another person's life, our own included.12 Reply
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+1 yThis is a tragedy... I don't think that even teachers wearing guns would help... I think there should be more strict standards about entering the school... Like these machines who scan for metal and more guards...
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That is expensive and s bit impractical but concealed carry has shown to prevent mass shootings so I don't know why that wouldn't work considering historic statistics.
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What if you scant get enough conceal carry people? Then you end up paying for it anyway
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Thank you Paris 🤗🤗🤗
+1 yI don't think they will they're too caught up on the wrong things every time somebody gets shot with a gun they always talk about the gun manufacturer whenever somebody makes a bomb and blow somebody up there never say I'm going to stop the bomb manufacturer from making the products that you make a bomb from. These people are obviously mentally unstable you got millions of people in the United States that have guns legally you don't see them going around shooting people up what are we going to do about mental health in this country cuz that's the real problems is not guns or knives it's Mental Health when are we going to approach that subject. We have all these different breakthroughs and everything else they got about 12 different pills to give a guy a hard-on that's not supposed to have one when he supposed to be impotent but they're not doing anything for mental health is not even a subject people talk about
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+1 yIdentifying mental illness would be a good step
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True all the mass shooters use ssris to treat depression that's not a coincidence and we can use this fact to take guns away from crazy people opposed to law abbiding citizens
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Tired of that smear. Mentally ill people are statistically LESS violent than the general population.
Newsflash: Normal people get angry. Normal people get bitter. Some normal people are just huge assholes.
Stop blaming mental illness, which, by the way exists all over the world, but only causes mass casualties all the time in America. - +1 y
@majorG because they're a convenient scapegoat.
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One who is actually responsible for all mass shootings find me a mass shooter who wasn't mentally ill
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@govgovigovioto nearly everyone in America is mentally ill, so just by pure statistics if you pick someone at random to be a mass shooter, they will likely have a mental illness because the pond is poisoned.
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@BeNiceToGirls Some states think that allowing weed will help. Sharon Tate was cruelly murdered by a group of potheads.
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Chief Justice John Roberts held that:
"The Court’s opinion should NOT be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms."
www.countable.us/.../2828-does-supreme-court-say-restrictions-second-amendment
Thus according to him, any lunatic should be able to buy AND carry a gun in schools and govt buildings. - +1 y
But existing laws may continue.
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Identify all the mentally illness you want.
The killings will continue.
Try to understand the scope and severity of the problem: American children are so distraught that violence is the only reasonable solution they see. And they're not wrong.
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+1 yThis is only partly about gun laws, the US really needs to drop its narcissism and copy other countries their statistics and laws to keep the security.
If Japanese people want to own a gun, they must attend an all-day class, pass a written test, and achieve at least a 95% accuracy during a shooting-range test.
Then they have to pass a mental-health evaluation at a hospital, as well as a background check
In result, there's only 10 shooting homicides per year, for a population of 127 million people. Australia paid gun-owners for selling them to the government and this dropped all homiced and suicides with firearms over half of its original number.21 ReplyThat is ridiculous. It is schools' job to educate children. Not to fight off heavily-armed gunmen.
Just the point that you're even having this debate in the US shows the need for said education.
People who claim that guns make society safer and that gun control wouldn't make a difference are either ignorant or consider the victims piling up an acceptable price for widespread gun ownership.
It is sickening. Yes, people throw tantrums everywhere. No, in most countries they do not have easy access to high-powered weaponry.115 Reply- +1 y
All the proposed gun controls laws wouldn't do anything to stop shootings.
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@Thisperson98 So what is your plan?
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Ignorent like you. Have you looked at France. They have mass shootings all the time. Also if you actually look at the statistics instead of your flawed logic you will find that there is a mathmatc inverse correlation between guns and violent crime with very few exceptions. Most of thoes places with ecceptions to the rule had their country murder a whole lot of people like China in the cultural revolution. Learn your history and the numbers before you call others ignorent it just makes you look stupid.
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Ccws are the only thing shown to prevent mass shootings. Let's try allowing almost every one to carry a concealed weapon. It works and nothing else does I think it's a simple choice.
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@govgovigovioto Maybe you'd like to add up the number of people shot in France over the past few years and compare that to the States? You are comparing major terrorist attacks to the daily mass shootings taking place in the US? To the American cities blighted by gun violence? To all the American guns flowing into Mexico, keeping the cartel violence going there? Really? Are you out of your fucking mind?
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@govgovigovioto Simpler, yes. Dumber, yes. Solution, no.
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Have you looked at the statistics yes or no?
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What about with knives let's talk about general murder rate
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Also y is it not 0 if guns are not allowed
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Look at England and Australia directly following their ban on guns up to today. It started with an increase in gun violence followed by a massive increase in knife related crimes ultomently leading to more violent crime
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@govgovigovioto Nice lies bro.
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@govgovigovioto If you had bothered to look at other sources than Trump's Twitter feed, you would know that America's homicide rate dwarfs those of the UK, France, and whatever other places you pulled out of your ass.
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Have you looked into what's been happening in China lately with school stabbings? Keep in mind, it's basically impossible for individuals to legally own guns there and the laws are strictly enforced with the death penalty in play.
There are no gun laws that will stop criminals from gettin ahold of a gun. They arn't getting them legally in the first place. For the most part. We need to stop treating our kids like babies and teach them how to stand up for themselves as soon as tthey are able to stand up. And that guns or knives ar not needed. Just our hands and feet.
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That is true. I know i've lived if a few states within the United States. While i won't say i know all the states laws for getting a purchace permit for a hand gun. All the states i lived in required me to get two additional people to write letters. Stating they thought i was a responsible person callable of owning and taking care of my gun. These had to be summited by the other people themselves. That way i wouldn't know what they said. I'm sure these people had to do similar things. These people should and could have said it in those letters without the shooter knowing what was said or by whome. When he or she gets told they were denied. The person telling them should say they don't know the report was done by the FBI. Then he or she would have to obtaine one illegally if they still wanted one bad enough
+1 yWell said. Schools get shot up and kids die because they are not well defended. When was the last time someone shotup a military compound or police station and got away with it? Regarding when will they be protected? No one knows. That's the issue with public schools. Unfortunately, not everyone can sent their children to private institutions or home school them.
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On a micro scale, agreed. A good conceal carry is basically as foolproof of a method possible for self defense. On a macro scale, it's nukes.
+1 yGetting metal detector would be a start. Clear backpacks as stupid as it is and no baggy clothes. Uniforms (also as stupid as they are). 10 foot brick all surrounding the back outdoor area. There are so many things that schools can do. Why don’t they? Who knows. Maybe lack of funding.
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It’s not lack of funding- who can put a price on our kids lives? They won’t harden these soft targets because that would solve this problem and the dems only want this problem solved by disarming America. It makes too much sense- they know it/- they will do anything to mock it, demean it, anything but agree with it_ just like solving immigration debacle- the dems want it to remain a problem so they can import a new velectirate- the dems are pure evil...
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No I complete agree with you but with all of these shootings going on... that have been going on, you’d think the schools would have done something by now to help protect their children. For instance, I went to have lunch with my little cousin a few weeks ago. Walked right into the school of unlocked doors and directly to his classroom. That’s not safe. I’ve seen news interviews that the city doesn’t have the funding to install or hire better security. Which I see to be a problem. I guess home school would be a fix. Disarming America will not solve the problem. Not sure why so many people think that. Bottom line is... there’s a lot that can be done to prevent this from happening.
There have not been 22 school shootings this year, there has been about 5, only two of which ended with multiple fatalities.
Anywho, as long as the Democrats have any power anywhere, schools will remain soft targets.
Either out of foolishness or out of malice, the Democrats simply refuse to accept that someone being present who can shoot back right away is a good thing, despite the mountain of incontrovertible evidence.11 Reply- 895 opinions shared on Trending & News topic.
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German nationalist? Not on his cap.
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The Iron Cross on the parka is German military.
+1 yHere's a radical fucking idea! Instead let's fucking ban guns in america completely and then you won't have a need for protection. Americans are a bunch of dick heads! Here in Australia where guns are banned not a single incident!
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@Pussytheass- Bam! Your a dumbass! Talk about a nation of pussys- you aussies just bent over and took it up the ass when they told you to hand over your guns- just like good little slaves. You don’t know jack about Americans- they will never allow their guns rights be fucked with, if you have to be told about this cultural difference it’s like💨💨why bother🗣?
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This is what I am talking about you bigots! If guns were not around then that would not have happened.
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Oh and jimmijo, we haven't had any gun tragedies since we gave up our guns.
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Laws only affect the law-abiding.
If you remove all the guns, the killers will make bombs instead.
Treat the disease, not the symptoms. - +1 y
Guns are the desease
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Guns are not the disease.
If guns were the disease, the military would be killing each other all the time.
Find out what motivates people to kill other people.
The 9/11 attackers didn't use a single gun yet they killed thousands.
+1 yTreat the source, not the symptom.
Mass violence is only a symptom, a reaction.
Providing "more security for children" is like putting a band-aid on a severed leg.
Treat the source, not the symptom. Cure the disease and the ailments will leave too.18 Reply- +1 y
Stalin would have told you that the ultimate source of all problems is humanity itself. Ready to do a genocide run IRL?
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I've never heard that before. But when you're right, you're right. - +1 y
@BeNiceToGirls-all of that takes time- of course it makes sense- it could literally take a generation to do- what do we do in the meantime? Harden the fuck out of our idiotic soft targets. If in a few years we happen to solve the mental health crisis- so much the better.
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The mental health crisis is a symptom, a response.
Depressed about living in the chaotic insanity of America? Normal, healthy, accurate response to surrounding conditions. - +1 y
What difference do you think that would make?
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Defining America as chaotic insanity is nonsense- and defining the mental health crisis is caused by depression from living here is ludicrous.
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You may be right the solution should address the source rather than the symptom, but it’s a huge leap for you to suggest you have diagnosed it like you just did. It is not that simple. Mass murder has not been connected to depression as far as I know.
+1 yIt needs central government to introduce strict controls on ownership, such as those that exist in countries which do not experience these problems with the same frequency. You can never stop all such atrocities, but you can reduce the number.
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Classic example of an American that forgot the founding principles people fought and died for. How depressing. Looks like someone forgot why the US is called the UNITED STATES. The whole point of the Union is so that a single tyrannical state cannot be formed. Washington just rolled over in his grave.
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@TheBillusBillus LisaLisa89 is from the UK, according to her profile.
+1 yWhen parents start doing their jobs and raising their kids.
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+1 yI don't know... but it not the schools. It the kids who bring the weapons... but... there should be at least 5 to 20 security guards depending on the size of the school and have each student before walk in the door empty jackets , pockets , etc..
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Yep 10 dead 10 injured and 1 dead in the Georgia high school and 1 injured during graduation
+1 yPeople killed another for millennium before guns and will kill each other long after plus there is things in the average school that can be used to kill far more people then a gun could
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Missed my point completely
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He means we can't stop a killer but we can stop that type of attitude in future. If you secure the gate I will kill outside the gate. Psycology and mental illness should change not schools kid.
There were armed gaurds at that school. It was Texas, and hey guess what adding more guns did jack shit.
16 ReplyParents have to get over their fear of anyone having a gun, not just "bad guys" let's not forgethow many school shooting were PREVENTED by normal citizenswith guns.
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Exactly. People just don't want anything to do with them instead of realizing they are the most effective means of keeping people safe from these lunatics. Gun-free zones have done nothing but painted a target on people's backs, including the backs of our children
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@jacquesvol I mean there was one just this week, not to mention the guy that chased down the other Texas shooter at the church last November.
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@VincentLaw the guy that chased down the other Texas shooter at the church last November did it AFTER the mass killing. Not BEFORE.
And I read about the one who shot an armed guy in a school. He is a security guard , not a simple armed citizen. He was just doing his job. - +1 y
What did you think the guy was going to do? I don't think he was going to go home and watch Netflix.
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Thank you! More often than not, guns are what prevents violence.
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@TheBillusBillus Guns preventing violence? That may work elsewhere (who knows?), but does clearly NOT work in the US.
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@VincentLaw in my opinion, the problem isn't guns in the hands of gangsters.
the problem is more guns in the hands of angry, drunk or mentally troubled people. People with a personal grudge against society. - +1 y
Police officers are screened and selected, put through extensive firearms training, and employed by the state to keep citizens safe. Do bad apples slip through once in a while? Yes. Do some organisations seem to have a bad culture? Yes. But the whole thing is not comparable to flooding a country with firearms that are freely available to pretty much anyone that can pay. That's what happened in Iraq. Turned into a failed state...
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@Paris13 That's evident but many gun owners prefer to keep their guns within reach.
Crystal methamphetamine, a purchase of a single gram by anyone is a jail sentence, but yet people still buy it... Guns will be the same way so you can't limit gun sales it onkyakes it harder on the law abiding citizens.
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Anny, get your gun!
(Or are you Bonnie without Clyde?)
+1 yI think Trump suggested allowing teachers with a licensed firearms to carry on school, which to be honest just makes sense to me. Over 500000 lives are saved by guns yearly, the feds did the research you can check it if you don't believe me. So I think it's safe to say that there's evidence to show that Trumps suggestion could be implemented.
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+1 yExactly what I have said all along. How stupid are we to send our kids to a soft target all day and expect them to be safe? Its insane!
11 ReplyThey should start installin metal detectors like they had at many of my schools.. LOL..
12 ReplyCountries where everyone is requered to carry a goverment issued a gun, who doesn't want to live their? CRIMINALS!
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Governments issues guns but citizens only carry them on exercise. They have no ammo at home. And many times, the gun is stored at the nearest army base.
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Zilch to do with incest. And Switzerland is a civilized country, pretty creep free.
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@Mypage www.google.com/search
And soldiers know about fragging. - +1 y
Fragging often ends fatally.
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Cops are trained, John Smith is at best an average marksman.
That cop waiting outside is a shame. A terrible coward. - +1 y
As long as you keep that 2nd amendment en guns being sold in supermarkets, you'll get regular mas shootings. In the US you need a license and insurance to drive a car. But only $1K to buy an AR-15.
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Update: yes, a decided criminal with connections CAN get a gun even with gun control. But that won't be as easy as going to the supermarket and buying one. And criminals are rather lazy.
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@jacquesvol Basically Switzerland. Military service is mandatory for all men and about half of women will volunteer for the same period too. This leaves about 3/4 of the country's adults with military training. After the conscription period, almost everyone involved is issued a service weapon that they are allowed to take home. Up until 2008, ammunition was issued too. While the weapon belongs to the state (government issued), you are allowed to practice with the weapon using live ammunition and when needed, you can always defend your home with it.
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Bad link
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@TheBillusBillus live military ammo is only available t the shooting range, not taken home or for sale in the supermarket since Switzerlland signed the Shengen treaty
+1 yHey SEuclid, what is "common sense" gun control other than a sound bite that implies anyone who disagrees with you lacks common sense? Quoting political sound bites is meaningless.
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We need a cop at every school now...
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Goid morning Paris
It would probably take an investment. It's a question of whether the board/ govournment is willing to invest in training teachers safety measures, Additional Scurity staff, Security system updates etc. Or maybe it would be a good thing to make a non-profit organisation for. Parents and so many other people can donate to the good cause of keeping schools safe and secure.
00 ReplyThe day people realize that owning a gun is not a "freedom"
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True it's our right.
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@govgovigovioto Welcome to Gag Town. xx
COMMON SENSE GUN CONTROL
why did he need a shotgun. why do civilians need machine guns? WHY359 Reply- +1 y
You want to ban shotguns? Or are you being sarcastic?
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To avoid a possible tyrannical goverment in the next half century. Good enough?
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There's a big difference between a shotgun and a machine gun. Shotguns hold one, two or five rounds. They are used for hunting and are short range compared to any rifle.
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Regardless of magazine capacity and rate of fire the majority of gun related crimes are commited with a handgun. So you what ban handguns?
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That is a stupid question that has an obvious answer. To defend freedom. The first step of any totalitarian government is to disarm the people and control the news. We have people compairing Trump to Hitler but these same people want to disarm so a real Hitler can rise to power. Foolish. Sad
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Rhettsbeardoil is right
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Also guns are shown to reduce robbery murder and mass shootings in communities. Look at Chicago when they temporary allowed ccws most crime dropped 50 percent. And ccws have prevented more mass shootings than any other form of action. Also look at France if you want to see how a gun free country can get shot up all the time.
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@Rhettsbeardoil Lol you're already ruled by a functional retard, you live in a two-party system where running for office is so expensive that it's basically only possible if you sell your soul to corporations, your intelligence agencies spy on everything you do, your country is awash in firearms (due to the same soulless lobbyists), and you're talking about tyranny? Seriously? That is laughable. That is perverse. That is delusional.
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I'm a registered libertarian I don't live in the two party system
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@govgovigovioto You're probably too far down the rabbit hole, but America's gun deaths rate is 22 times France's.
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O it's delusional to learn from the past I guess all of our history teachers are delusional
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@govgovigovioto Remind us about the last time libertarians held power?
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What about murder rate or is it so much worse when someone uses a gun instead of a knife.
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Actually y don't u just move there and stop trying to oppress americans
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Regardless of France United States has a less mass shootings than many European countries. On top of that the United States is systematically controlled by both parties and larger functioning entities whom you might say control's reaches far past Nato countries. Its not far off to believe these steps torward greater goverment interference inst leading torward genocide. Dont down play the constitutional right of organized militia. Retard.
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This guy gets it
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@Rhettsbeardoil You're the retard. Unless you can point to the European country with more mass shootings than the US... But of course, that is merely a fiction you invented because it sounded good, not because it's grounded in reality. Your well-regulated militia sure is working out well, huh? Killing lots of kids. Bravo.
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If you take away guns, then they will build bombs instead. Treat the source, not the symptom.
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All of thoes people were taking seritonin reupatak inhibiters y are u defending crazy people in your last post despite them causing all this then attack freedomes of the law abiding citicenz who don't do mass shootings the logic doesn't follow
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@BeenShook Okay genius. That might be why they measure that stuff PER 100,000 PEOPLE... So that you can compare rates. Smart, huh? In other words, total population is completely irrelevant. So you're fine with gang members killing each other and people offing themselves? Okaaaay...
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@BeenShook Dude, that's what -rate- statistics are for
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I have references but i can tell you for fact US is ranked 14th in violent crimes mass shootings included.
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@Rhettsbeardoil It's in some cases difficult to compare assault rates, because they are tracked differently. Homicide statistics are pretty comparable, because any non-total-shithole country manages to track the large majority of its homicides.
The U. S. homicide rate is -way- higher than western or northern Europe, significantly higher than Canada, Australia, nz, much higher than the similarly wealthy parts of asia. See en.wikipedia.org/.../List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate for a summary, though the odd one you can dig at if you like and sometimes find a year or two more current. - +1 y
@Rhettsbeardoil That would be behind countries like Guatemala, Liberia, etc. Nice achievement!!!
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At least you're looking at a statistic that does account for population because I've argued this before with plenty of people who haven't. As for people who commit suicide, there are plenty of other means and honestly if someone wants to kill themselves that is none of my business. As for gang crime, the issue is not gun assecibilty, most of which are illegal by the way, that violence stems from a drug problem not a gun problem. Also there are an estimated 2 million defensive uses of a firearm annually in the U. S.
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The achivments we have made as a country arnt measured by homicides. If you dont like it here get your ass out and take your negative opinions with you...
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Skimming your holy grail wiki it seems they say US is still below average. Yes?
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@Rhettsbeardoil Below average in the world? Yes. It's safer then the majority of third world countries, but has 2-5x the homicide rate of pretty much everywhere else in the first world.
For the record my belief is that U. S. gun ownership is the result of the violence, not the cause of it, but anyway, we start with facts and then build theories/opinions. - +1 y
@Thisperson98 "The suspected Santa Fe gunman possessed a shotgun and a.38 revolver that had been legally purchased by his father".
Very 'Murican thus. - +1 y
@BeenShook A [probably repeating] shotgun and a.38 revolver should not be in the hands of a 17 yr old.
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Instead if looking only at the rate of gun deaths, look at the murder rate. The US is right in the middle of the pack.
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There are over 150 nations. That represents 1/10.
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@jdrrichmond it's crime RATE /100,000 population. Relative crime rate thus, not an absolute number.
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I said their are over a 150 "nations". Countries. The chart you linked to shows 14 or 15. It is a comparison by nation and only includes 1/10 of all nations. Actually, if you look at the nations on that list, many of them have high rates of gun ownership. the US has about 101 funds for every 100 people, but guns are only owned by 30% of the population (legally). This implies more guns per gun owner. Gun collectors, in some cases. Serbia, Yemen, and Saudi Arabia have much higher murder rates, but about half as many guns. Norway has about 30 guns per person and has one of the lowest murder rates.
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@jdrrichmond The chart mentions 'peer countries' , thus countries similar in civilization, incomes, health etc.
That's why I picked that one. - +1 y
I understand that. The the ratio of gun ownership to murder rate flips if you look at every nation on Earth. For example, taking the chart you've shown on murder rate and comparing it to gun ownership, their appears to be a correlation. If you look at the world as a whole, you see a parabola shaped distribution. The US has the highest gun ownership per capita, but is in the middle in terms of homicide. For the countries shown as peer nations, it seems that the ratio of gun ownership to homicides is about equal. More guns corrolates to more homicide. But, in other countries, the opposite is true. This implies (and I believe) that other factors are involved. It's also important to note that correlation isn't causation. I'd also look at poverty levels, religious an cultural homogeneity
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Political strife, mental health, general happiness and satisfaction.
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@jdrrichmond Whatever you reason about it, the result is the US being the one with the highest gun homicide rates.
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Full-auto weapons are ineffective in almost all circumstances. I'm guessing you've never seen how much damage a marksman can do with a semi-auto rifle.
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@TheBillusBillus I shot with a lot of guns, from single shot.22 pistol to assault rifle, to heavy machine gun to bazooka to 105 mm howitzer.
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It isn't. It's smack in the middle, unless you cherry pick the countries to compare it to.
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@jacquesvol Love how you use the term "assault rifle"... Repulsive. Disgusting.
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@jdrrichmond Just follow American news and you'll know.
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MajorG, where are you from?
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BeNicetogirls - good answer.
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A 12 Gauge loaded with bird-shot is very effective for dealing with home intruders less than 40 yards away.
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@jdrrichmond it’s smack in the middle of a bunch of third world countries. Doesn’t that seem odd? Why is it so much higher than every other developed nation?
I will say again I think us gunnownership overall is more a response that homicide rate than its cause. But it’s farcical to suggest it’s not a massive outlier. - +1 y
America is a violent country. But, like in any country, the vast majority of it's people aren't. The news and political talking heads only talk about tragedies like the one that started this post. Look at some other statistics. This is an iteresting article. www.safehome.org/resources/gun-laws-and-deaths/
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Issues are never black and white. Calling for "common sense" legislation is pointless if no one can say what that is.
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@jdrrichmond that is interesting and is the strongest data I’ve seen showing restrictive laws being associated with less homicides when comparing states.
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It also shows states will high rates of gun ownership and low rates of homicide. Read further down.
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I don’t see it happening in the US, but in Canada or Switzerland for instance, both of which have quite high gun ownership, there are -strict- rules around storage. Basically all your guns have to be locked in safes when not in use. That would make it hard for troubled teens to grab weapons. However it would also mean you give up the idea of guns being on hand for self defence - which is a major idea in the US but not at all in other developed nations where guns are almost entirely viewed as being for hunting, or in a few cases, for militia type military resistance.
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Don't care don't have kids or wasn't affected by it.
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"This is America"
+1 yHow about less security and just have better PARENTING Skills. It's their fault, don't blame the schools...
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Yes... Lets teach rapists not to rape and criminals not to... Wait... I think someone's said this before somewhere... Ah, yes, the original quote is "Swiper no swiping". If you only stepped out of your cave, you would realize that you can't solve mental health issues or poverty with "better parenting".
+1 yBecause the libs are more interested in taking away people's guns then looking for other solutions, and the consequences are too busy with getting rid of the illegals.
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+1 yI know right all they have to do is let teachers have guns but apparently the government disarming us is more important then children's safety dam Nazi communist totalitarians
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You want nothing to stand in the way of an active shooter what's wrong with you even a five year old like me gets that how old are you.
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Is Trump a damned Nazi communist totalitarian? - +1 y
Guards can't stop a hidden sniper
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+1 yRaise your children in the fear of the lord. That is the answer.
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@JDavid25: Too bad. Let the devil eat them up then.
+1 yJust change the gun laws. You don't need security in schools. Take the UK for an example.
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You guys live in a society where you can go to jail for Facebook comments and flipping off a traffic camera, not to mention a government that decides if you love or die if you get sick.
The UK is a prime example of why you NEVER give up your guns. If I was the father of Alfie Evans I would have stormed that hospital armed to the teeth.
You people are living as if Hitler won WWII. - +1 y
Take the UK for example as in ban handguns only to have nothing change? Even if you did mange to get every single gun out of the street, something called cars still exist. Remember what happened on Westminster Bridge?
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@UniqueUserNsme-“just change the gun laws”? Are you brain dead? No one believes that will make any difference, if you don’t know the difference between us and the UK - our values, our culture , all are different. English are used to not having individual liberties, they don’t value their national heritage like we do/ the UK is barely recognizable as the way it was in 1945- it is invaded by Islam and refugees who don’t have a fuck about the English people it is sad.
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Short of having TSA at every school I don't think there is much that can be done.
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Allow teachers to have ccws it's cheep and effective. How many terrorists has the TSA actually stopped... None
+1 yIt's not going to happen. There will be shootings and it won't ever resolve
20 ReplyThat's just America! Arm the cleaners too with the litter picker rifle!
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+1 yLiberals won't allow it.
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+1 yVeteran bodygurads to be honest
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+1 yThey should totally ban guns and confiscate the ones that people already have.
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We should give better education for a better future. Having better security will not work.
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What is protected is not the fuxking school. If school is protected they will do it outside the school. What should change is the thinking
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+1 yWhen states stop being sensitive and liberal.
11 Replyu can pray n hope.
12 Reply22? Jeez
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I guess never😔
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+1 yMetal detectors would be a good start.
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