There are so many of them its insane.
Same here. Can't stand those bloody thots.
I know right. All these teens and girls showing skin and what not just to draw people in lol
They treat girls so differently then guys on twitch, lol. It's disgusting
Cos they know they make money out of it
The opinions on here are yikes
Was to be expected. I'm black and i don't see an issue with it. But then again, not all of us are the same
Scroll Down to Read Other Opinions
She is swedish. She doesn't study UK history in depth. She didn't know this shite. Hell i didn't know it. Sometimes painting your face makes it easier to distinguish who you are. You don't do hulk cosplay with no green paint.
@_Jay_ Yes but hulk isn't a human being. You can easily do cosplays of other humans without having to paint yourself, like the examples I gave.
Wowwwwwww thats discrimination. Often with characters there's also this thing that there are similar characters of other race. You can't change the fact that people who create characters take inspiration from characters created before. So unless they take someone very well known, they will indeed not look like the character.
You can cosplay as a character from a different race and be tasteful about it (without having to go blackface). Painting yourself green is completely different because painting yourself green has no negative history or connotations behind it like going black face.
@WalmartFlipFlop If people trip on shit like this, racism will never end. Also APEX LEGENDS is a video game with fictional people and world. There's nothing better to do than to shame someone for doing something nowadays. fuck race and shit. We're fucking humans. That's how we should view one another, but nah race card hits home run like no tomorrow.
Things like black face goes against that philosophy though. Doing this just points it out and it causes people to feel like their noticing patterns that my not be there.
Ok fair enough
Everything about a person or a character is a costume. Even skin color.
No it's not.
If she painted herself red or purple would it bother you even a little? Did you not see the movie white chick? Which by the way was a funny movie and no one cried about it
@ultimega So, if you'd dress up as, let's say, She Hulk you wouldn't paint yourself green?Are you also this vigilant about white face?
White face? I think you should look up what white face is. They are not making her do whiteface. She is performing Ariel in her natural skin tone which is brown. White people are upset just because it's not a white girl with red hair playing Ariel instead Disney got a black girl to do it. You really just misinterpret the whole thing.
@brebre234 i know exactly what white face is idoit
No you're the idiot do your research. No where in any articles did it say that they were going to make chloe haley do white face to do Ariel. She is preforming her in her natural skin tone. White people are making a big issue cause black girl is casting as a fictional character. There are bigger issues in the world.
No bitch y'all are the one getting offended over everything. You guys were upset when Obama was elected because he is black. You guys got upset when Miss USA Miss teen and Miss America were selected and they were black. You guys are upset cause Disney cast a black female as the leading role in the Little Mermaid. I can keep going on too. I'm sorry to say this but the truth is the truth white people get upset and offended over the stupidest stuff cause we black people are on top and taking over. Before you know y'all will become the minority. So no you fuck off bitch.
@brebre234 lmao black people are not taking over. More and more black people and minorities are being chosen for various roles and positions and it’s been given the spotlight on social media and new channels. Of course nowadays it’s easier for minorities to succeed in America. But the media (especially the left media) emphasizes the success of black people and other minorities to get more views and approval from the young and dumb like yourself. Disney is playing into that too by casting a black actress as Ariel. There’s nothing wrong with all this. But the point is that the reason black people seem to be taking over is because of the push from media to make it appear that way. They are doing better than they were 100 years ago but they are not taking over. Learn to not believe everything you see on the internet.
@BrookieCookie0422 Facts is Facts by 2045 Whites will be the minority. And if you look it up more black people are on the rise when it comes to career paths such as business, doctors, lawyers (like myself) engineers etc. Facts is facts. I also think its pretty stereotypical how you automatically associated me with the democratic party. That's pretty ignorant of you all black people are not Democrats. You got some who are independent or Republican etc. So you dont know which side I'm associated with. I don't believe the media in everything but statiscally it shows.🤷🏽♀️
@brebre234 where did I say you are democratic? I didn’t assume anything about you other than the fact that you haven’t fully looked into everything you see. Also I’d love you to send me links to where you got your information. And I know not all black people are democratic. All the black people I personally know are democratic. But I have seen a few black republicans/conservatives online and on tv. Like Candace Owens. So based on personal experience, (like real life experience), I could argue that all black people are democratic, but I know that’s not true.
@brebre234 years Dave chapelle did white face comedy skits on his show. He played a news reporter who was real uptight, humorless, dull and vanilla (no pun intended). And no one gave a SHIT. I laughed at his skit and I’m very white. Yes blackface had a horrible past 100 years ago but no sane white person is going to intentionally dress like that to mock black people without getting lynched nowadays.by the way only a tiny, isolated percentage of white people tweeted about being pissed off Ariel being black. But the woke left took that and ran with it in an effort to smear ALL OF US. This insane Marxism is going is creating a very dangerous environment. You think Trump getting elected was bad? You continue with this bullshit and he will get re-elected.
@sonnysunshine lmao frrrr!!! And I totally forgot Dave Chappell did that!!! 😂😂😂I remember seeing one of his skits where he white faced. That man is a genius 👌 comedy gold
@BrookieCookie0422 funny as hell and did you see anybody bitching about it? And let’s not forget the Waylon brothers in “white chics”. As long as SJW crybabies then we will always have racism. THEY keep racism alive while they are pretending to fight it.
@sonnysunshine exactly!!! And I didn’t even think about white chicks 😂 they are mocking white people!!! But no one gives a fuck about white people do they?
@BrookieCookie0422 this liberal hypocritical crybaby shit and censorship will just keep racism alive and well for years to come.
@sonnysunshine that’s the damn truth. It’s like they’re all in denial about it! They encourage segregation with their actions. Ending segregation is one of our countries biggest milestones in regards to racial issues, after the abolishment of slavery.
@sonnysunshine the biggest issue I have with this black face argument is that these guys are saying black face is wrong because of its previous usage. But white face is okay because it’s never been used badly. What if white face is used in a disrespectful way? Would it be bad then? Times change and the meaning of things evolve. Our language and wording isn’t like what it used to be. For example, the word retarded used to be solely a medical term used to describe mentally retarded people. Now it’s used as an insult but it’s also offensive if you say it while around, or to, someone who is mentally challenged. So the term wasn’t offensive until the meaning and usage changed with modern times. I don’t see why this can’t happen with something like black face. To get past racism, we need to get past the past.
@BrookieCookie0422 the demand for racism is now greater then the supply. Just ask Jussie Smollett These people are searching for the bogey man because most of them are losers in their own lives. It gives them a sense of relevance if they can find something to bitch about. It’s a cop out and it’s pathetic. The best thing you can do is NOT support anything that panders to the left. Dont buy their merchandise. Don’t but their movie tickets.
@sonnysunshine amen to that brother lmao
@Izumiblu you agree?
Well put, I understand why people get upset when it’s a racial issue. But I don’t see something like this as a racial issue. She was dressing up as a video game character that happens to be black. In my opinion the real issue here is the message they’re sending by banning her for this. Because what I’m seeing is them saying this character somehow belongs to black people only and no one else can aspire to be like them.
@Wharvey98 exactly! It’s just a costume!
@Wharvey98 Its not that the character belongs to black people only. It's okay to imitate a character without doing black face. For example a lot of white people are upset that Disney is casting a black women as Ariel in the little mermaid. I honestly dont see what the issue in that is. However at the same time you dont see Disney trying to put white face on her to imitate Ariel since she white. There is no excuse for what she did doing black face is mocking black people.
@brebre234 no it’s not. The lady is right. I rent is everything
How is putting artificial tanner on your face offensive to black people? As for the Ariel thing, that’s Disney’s Intellectual property and they can do with it what they will. She wasn’t discriminating against black people, she wasn’t doing it to offend people. She did it to make herself more accurately appear as the character. What’s the problem with that? When people wear masks to make themselves look like a character. no one gets upset. If I were to dress as Hidan from Naruto Shippuden and put on his face paint no one would think anything of it. Why does it matter what the face paint makes you look like? It’s being used for the same purpose, to look like the person your dressing up as. I wouldn’t give a crap if someone who wasn’t white put on makeup to look like a white person. That exact thing is done in plays all the time, it’s called fitting the character. And you can bet if she had dressed up as the character and left herself white people would complain about her appropriating a character. There’s no winning because people will be offended either way.
@Wharvey98 exactly! People liked to find reasons to complain on the internet lmao
Well she didn't insult black people or anything like that by applying the black face. The character in the game is in fact a dark skin lol
She didn't make fun of black people. She literally is cosplaying an existing black character from an anime she loves.
There is no problem with black face. Just because somebody has their feelings hurt doesn't bear significance. Neither does it's history.
if there is nothing wrong with portraying the character she likes, than there shouldn't be anything wrong trying to look as similar to the character as possible
Why a punishment? She was just dressing as her favourite character not making fun of blacks
I mean. It is racist.
It is not. I assume no one would have said the same if a black girl did white face
@Nadim171 Yes they would, but funny how you don't see black people doing that yet you see white people doing so. Blackface is racist, if she wanted to dress up as that character she didn't have to go paint her face.
Blackface is racist if it's done to make fun of black people, but if it's just to play the role of a black person it's not. Back at school we once painted our faces black to play the role of Africans in a play since we're all light skinned
@Nadim171 Read these articles, they might enlighten you. You might not understand some stuff since you're only 14 but take a look: www.history.com/.../blackface-history-racism-originswww.independent.co.uk/.../...y-perry-a8780416.htmledition.cnn.com/.../index.htmlwww.vox.com/.../why-is-blackface-offensive-halloween-costume
I read that, but you see? Back then it was to Male fun of blacks. As for Halloween costumes it's just because for example, I want to dress as a black slave in Halloween, yet i am not black, so I need blackface. If a black wants to dress as George Washington for Halloween he will do white face yet I will be the one being attacked
I remember that my mom told me my grandpa used to work in the making of an old movie and all the actors weren't black and they needed slaves so they used shoe polishing black on their faces to look like slaves.
@Nadim171 Okay, first on all, who in their right mind would dress up as a slave, what the hell. You can dress up as a black character without doing blackface. You don't have to do blackface or whiteface to do some cosplay. It's racist. That's why people are mad, not because of the character she chose but because she did blackface, which is the issue.
*first of all
Yeah, dressing up as a slave, even more having black face painted? that is a definite NO lol. Imagine dressing up as an Isis member on Halloween? yeah good luck with that one, i hope you survive.
i am Arab (Christian) so an ISIS member might fit well if I have a beard.
If someone does whiteface I wouldn't be offended. I dont know why blacks always get More privellages. People dress like Asians and do makeup to look like Asians, arabs, Europeans, indiasn yet if you do that to blacks it's RaCiSt
@Nadim171 wow, so you're just an idiot really.
An idiot? I thought I was a racist? Come on call me racist I still didn't break the 100 times called racist score I was planning to break.
i am Arab (Christian) so an ISIS member might fit well if I have a beard? nani? Now you're just trolling
I dressed as a Muslim once, just for fun lol
@Nadim171 Yeah muslim, but i'm talking about an ISIS member.
@YvanKarma , right? what an idiot.
When you get to read the Quran you will know they're the same anyways...
I worked at a grocery store for a year and I had employees of many different races. White people were more sensitive about talking about race. Whereas the black peoples would bring up race every change they got! In fact they’d even stereotype themselves! All my black co-workers had Fanta and hot Cheetos at lunch 😂 like I’m not even joking! I’m not one to stereotype people. But they were doing it to themselves! But that’s besides the point. I’m not trying to say that black peoples self-stereotyping behavior justifies people acting “racist”. I’m saying that people are unfair about racism. Because what counts as racism nowadays, makes EVERYONE racist!! I think racism should be described as a person verbally or physically threatening, targeting, or assaulting a person or group of people for their race. I mean kkk members not girls wearing black face on the internet.
@BrookieCookie0422 exactly, blacks don't really care and don't get offended that easy but it's just whites thinking everything is offensive
@Nadim171 lmao fr! It’s white liberals that call everyone racist all the time! When I hand out with people who are t white (especially men) they make racist jokes towards each other all the time! I don’t find it racist to joke about race. The best way to get past something is to joke about it.
WEAK DUMB PEOPLE. I can't STAND IT
This comment made my day
I’m so done
But it is racially offensive, even if her intent wasn't bad. The history surrounding blackface is really ugly and there is a reason that sensitivities surrounding it are so high.
@Reach500 She's from Lithuania. There's no history of BlackFace there.
Skin tone isn't a costume. Do your research.
@ultimega yes and it looks like she got a really dark fake tan.
Don't think so, dear.
@ultimega well I do. I've seen many get that done. Adrianna Grande is a good example.https://youtu.be/lHtIymtC7uYhttps://youtu.be/fvVT3N5dZq4
Those examples are not on the same level as the picture in the question. Besides Ariana Grande is part italian so she is naturally olive toned. Not a person painting themselves "dark brown" for cosplay.
@ultimega actually didn't she go too dark once, she has very light skin for an Italian. https://images.app.goo.gl/DvNbN4hp8NUBHuqB7
How lmfao. It's a character
Uhm no she isn't. but okay
How is cosplaying making someone look bad?
To add context, she is cosplaying as lifeline, a character from the game Apex, she is not trying to dress up as a slutty African nurse.
@Nayrr She purposely makes the black character uglier then the white character. She could have stylized herself in an attractive way by using a different shade of orange or a more uniform shade of black. She could have used a different poise and photographed her face at a different angle to make the dark skinned person beautiful and not an ugly version of the white one.
She literally does that pose in game lol.
And who's the white character lol?
Context: She looks spot on, I don't see the issue here. I don't know why this would make Africans look bad, Lifeline is a fictional character coming from the planet Psamathe. Kind of racist to assume she's African because of her skin color.
I just want to say sw? Is pretending to think i’m Racist because he is so full of hatred inside he tries to take it out on others. There is a guy from my high school whose made over 400 fake accounts on this site to stalk me and this guy is only level 3.
Well that guy needs help, he has obviously mental issues
For the people disliking and saying it's for cos play etc. You can still dress up as that character without painting your face. I think its ignorant how she did this. Look up the history blackface people!
She's from Lithuania. There's no history of BlackFace there.
The history is irrelevant. If it was, then that standard ought to be applied to the racist history of the democratic party, which no one does.
@Adam_INTJ The history of black face is still relevant especially in the U. S. Wrong is wrong she should not of done blackface. Whether its cosplay or not. If it was a black person doing white face for cos play or whatever they would be under scrutiny cause white people would feel that they are being made fun of. It's the truth🤷🏽♀️
Except they wouldn't face any scrutiny or punishment because if they did that would be called racist too
I mean you can paint yourself white. Noone cares. Michael Jackson did that and everybody loves him. So really its you being self conscious and bitchy.
@brebre234 it's not wrong just because you say it's wrong. Who made you God? Your opinion on it doesn't matter. Use logic.If the history is relevant I hope you'll join me in opposition to the democratic party as a relic of a bygone racist era.
@Adam_INTJ Okay just because I give an opinion does not mean I'm god. I'm an expert in logic I'll a philosophy minor and will be attending law school next year. Ethically it's wrong. Morally ( depending on how the person was raised this could vary) but in my opinion it's wrong. And who are you to say that my opinion doesn't matter? But yours matter?
Well that's your opinion why we even arguing then?But I still think she did nothing wrong. By what logic did she do anything wrong?
@_Jay_ Do your research Michael Jackson had vitiligo. When Michael Jackson died the doctor examined him and confirmed he had vitiligo which is a skin condition that make skin turn white. Just because I give an opinion does not mean I'm bitchy an opinion is an opinion.
@brebre234 if you're a philosophy minor you should know that morality, if subjective/determined by opinion, cannot logically be enforced on other people as they can have their own subjective view. Yet also, you should know that morality is not objective, as demonstrated by David Hume's Fact-Value dichotomy. The end result is that you can come to a conclusion that while blackface is morally wrong TO YOU, and some others, you have no place enforcing that over someone else's subjective view of blackface.You do not hold this position, so it tells me that you are either lacking in your ability to use logic, or that you lack background with philosophy
@Adam_INTJ ok but that was a sick burn
@Adam_INTJ But my opinion holds the position and opinion is an opinion and I'm just expressing why I feel that way. Which I have a right to. I'm not lacking in anything boo-boo because it seems like you are the one affected by my opinion. You were the first to comment under my opinion and saying history is irrelevant. All I did was responded back to it and expressed why I disagreed.🤷🏽♀️🙄
I mean black people mostly sold their own families to be slaves so I think that's why making jokes about black people is still funny. That's why black face was funny to those people. But now its not. It's not even black face. As it is not ridiculing black people.
@Adam_INTJ And the winner is! I love when people defend their position because they "studied the topic in school".
@brebre234 then "she should have been banned. No reason to blackface" shouldn't have been in your comment as the former Is a claim of moral absolutism while the latter is a claim a fact--both false.
@InTimoreDei Oh so since because I'm black you assuming I didn't study the topic in school? You're mighty narrow minded. To me it seem like he didn't study anything.
Most of us are assuming you didn't study the topic because you clearly didn't understand it. Idc if you're black but if you're stupid then I don't know mate. Sounds pretty shitty to me.
@_Jay_ No I do understand it. he's the one whose stupid because I have a right to my fucking opinion. he's the one who came under my comment first and disagreed and all I did is respond. Then he had a nerve to basically tell me how I have no right to an opinion. To me blackface is wrong and I'm just expressing my opinion why it's wrong. 2. I'm not stupid because apparently I'm at the top of my class rn and will be attending one of the top law schools next year. So 🤷🏽♀️
@brebre234 Ummm... where did I say anything about race? I didn't even know you're black. Don't bring up race when it wasn't even part of the discussion.
@InTimoreDei um race is involved in the discussion this. Plus your reason is flawed just because someone mentioned one book about philosophy does not mean they are an so call expert in philosophy and the studied it just from reading "a book" anyway imma end this discussion here cause I got better shit to do than sit here and argue with people who are very narrow-minded. Have a nice day.
@brebre234 trouble is, you're contradicting yourself in magnificent fashion in regard to the right to an opinion. You're asserting that you should be able to hold your opinion, though not rooted in any logic, while this cosplayer is not entitled to her opinion on blackface, and instead should have your opinion forced on her via banning her. By that logic, you should be able to "have your opinion" as I ban you from G@G for disagreeing with my opinion.See the problem?
Ya know that someone lost the argument when they say that they have better to do.
@brebre334 your arrogance is truly offputting. You are raising yourself as an "expert" based on nothing more than a minor. That's committing both the personal incredulity and the appeal to authority fallacies at once. You'll learn in law school that an expert without facts or data does not constitute a good argument and that your personal experience in a topic does not form a valid point either.Your expertise in a topic should only serve as a background skill that assist you to navigate to facts, find relevant data, and guide your audience to your conclusion. Expertise is only valuble as a vehicle through which to find facts.I don't claim to have expertise in the topic, but I do have a limited set of relevant facts which form my argument. It is up to you to either point out why my facts do not lead to the conclusion which I have proposed, or to present other facts and deductive arguments which oppose my argument.
perhaps she did not know the history, she was just trying to look similar to the character
@Porcelaine Yeah, she might not have known the history, but other people have also caught hell for wearing blackface. She had to know it was a sensitivity even if she didn't know why.
that was not blackface that was cosplay. people are overly sensitive. you need to realize the difference between intentional racism and unintentional.
@Porcelaine. She might have had innocent intentions, but to the outside world, it will obviously read as blackface
Yes and people should judge the intention not jump to conclusions
@Porcelaine Strangers will not know a person's intentions, but certain things inspire certain reactions for good reason
To the ones that down voted me, FU you stupid racists.