The photos are too graphic, however just google Epstein death photos.
Epstein's autopsy report found his neck had been broken in several places, including the hyoid bone (image shown) located near the Adam's apple.
Forensic experts have previously said that breakages to that specific bone could occur when people hanged themselves but were more commonly seen in victims who had been strangled.
'I have never seen three fractures like this in a suicidal hanging,' Dr Baden told 60 Minutes.
'Going over a thousand jail hangings, suicides in the New York City state prisons over the past 40–50 years, no one had three fractures.'
Dr Baden said the injuries on his body also showed contusions on both wrists, muscle hemorrhaging in his left shoulder and an abrasion of his left arm.
Epstein also had a cut on his lip and burst capillaries on his face, mouth and eyes, according to the autopsy.
Why is there no blood on the noose that he supposedly hung him self with? When there is blood shown on his neck in the post autopsy?
Why is there little bruising on the neck? When someone hangs them selves there is tons of bruising, why does it look like he was strangled by someone?
Why are paleontologists that have been doing autopsy’s longer than you were born saying he was most likely strangled and murdered, rather than a Suicide?
Any time a high profile inmate dies while incarcerated it will be ruled as a suicide, because the prison/jails in questiton don't want people thinking that they can't keep their loved ones or family members safe. What the hell do they think is going to happen when you house several hundred potentially violent people all together? They are NOT going to sit around and sing Kumbaya!!
Sorry but this was too clean of a kill, this was a hit, a hit either from the Intelligence agency he was working for (evidence that he was working for a front company back in the 90s that is linked to the CIA.
I believe he was killed by them, I think he was working a honey trapping operation with the CIA. And don’t get it wrong, the CIA have been honey trapping since the early 40s.
Epstein had to much information to go to prison, they aren’t going to let someone with that much information live, they got to him before anyone else could.
Right, people in these comments are saying well I need proof, I need proof from an expert, uh experts are telling us that it wasn’t Suicide that it goes torwards homicide.
Like use your mind, the scene was to clean, the noose he had around his neck supposedly, has literally no blood on it,
there is no severe bruising around his neck like there is with every other hanging that has a vet existed ever.
There were 8-10 nooses made, how could he have done that? Do you know how difficult that is to do with those blankets, and what he used with clothes ect?
He didn’t have much time to make those but somehow “he did”.
There is no photo with the thing around his neck “supposedly because the guards were trying to revive him.
Epstein was definitely murdered. There are too many coincidences to contribute to a cover up. He also had a lot of information about other high society people doing the same crap as him. Someone powerful could have arranged to have him killed.
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I can't believe there's anyone who still thinks it was a suicide. I guess those are the same people who believe everything CNN tells them.
I think that everyone, prety much have come to the conclusion that he was killed. The problem is that their is way to many people who had reason to silence him and most of them were both rich and well connected. Everyone from the British royal family to the Clintons to who knows who all else. Not to mention the scores of victims who would have loved to see him dead. Also their is the possibility that a victim didn't want their name to come out, someone who had done a little time and knew someone. The fact he was killed is not the problem, the problem is that we probably will never know who killed him.
It's just another posibility. The rest is just either guards in on it, probably paid off, or emotionally manipulated, and or another inmate. It certainly wasn't anyone that wasn't already in the prison. Getting in or out of a prison is virtually impossible without either big holes or body counts. There's virtually no way to slip an operative in, unless they were also in as an inmate. Then it would still take a guard or two to allow things to happen. Another very plausible scenario is that some inmate offed him just because he was a child molester and the guards just turned a blind eye wouldn't be the first time. But I assure you that it was someone in the lock up already.
They could have easily slipped in a guard 3 months before Epstein arrived to the jail, no inmate could have gotten into that cell. I think they got him with a operative disguised.
No not 3 months, would've taken at least a year. No rookie would've been in a SHU like that. Again it had to be an existing guard not a rookie, and it may have been another inmate. An inmate could've done it, but with the help of a guard. Just popped two doors and turned off a camera. Easy mill for them.
No, not federal holding facilities. Their unionized and don't allow outsiders in. You are correct it was an existing guard, one who's been there for a while. Not an outsider. It simply doesn't play any other way. Guard was involved one that was assigned to that facilitaty and had been there for a long time. My guess is that he or she was bribed but possibly extorted. I also think it's as likely that it was another inmate who did it with that guards knowledge and help.
Just look at the cell and where things are placed, looks way to in your face, like they want us to buy his death. The placements of cords and diy nooses, I don't know just seems way to set up , and this is coming from someone that was a crime scene cleaner for nearly 2 years.
Getting someone into a prison as an inmate is fairly easy. Also plenty of professional killers in the federal prison system, ex military, spies, mob, etc. Depending on the facility the братом (Russian mob) could have easily pulled something like this off for enough money.
Also Epstein’s body building cell mate was removed 1 hour before Epstein’s death, this gigantic dude said that a guard threatened his life if he mentioned this to Anyone after he died, I find that quite interesting
At least one guard was involved no doubt about that. But I don't think a guard has the finess to pull it off. That's why I am leaning towards another prisoner. Many guards are ex military but not many are military intelligence and this is a specific skill set.
Yes yes they can... when it comes to classified information selling and Assassinations, causing uprisings, selling cocaine in their own country to their own civilians, to mind control programs like MK ultra, and so on.
Look they're good, professional even. And often pro's use hired help. It's cleaner and has less to tie them to it. Again lot's of rich and powerful players all with the financial ability, lot's of possibilities for a private contractor even a group of mercenaries may have pulled this off. Throw enough money at a problem it goes away.
It looks like a set-up. They tried to do the Jimmy Hoffa thing. But no good at it. Of course you know they are going to blame the people on the bottom of the food chain. To protect who really order the hit. That person is Hillary. She the one that runs the mob. The God Father so to speak.
well he was murdered for sure. however that's just what happens in prison to rapists. specially to child rapists. they're murdered by inmates. that's pretty normal and a daily thing to happen in prisons.
yeah there is probably some cover up involved too. i don't care.
Epstein was clearly assassinated. You don't commit suicide in a max security place as he was in, cameras dont malfunction right as it happens outta coincidence either.
I don’t typically follow stuff like this because I don’t care to get mixed into politics stuff like this. But I recently saw an article that this guy was set up. Someone else might’ve murdered him. The cops and justice system is all corrupt.
Exactly, I think they brought in operatives, I think Epstein was working a honey trapping operation with The CIA (whom he was working for in the 90s) with a known CIA front company.
Yeah man, He was believed to be working for other intelligence agencies as well, I mean think about it to, how do you get a hit man in a maximum security jail?
Anyone who says murderded probably ends up on the Fbi watch list. People in power stay that way cause no one fuks with them. So that’s why no one is saying anything and is just staying quiet
There is evidence that he was working for a CIA front company back in the 90s, he was definitely involved in something much greater, than what we know.
Majority of Hollywood is liberal/democratic, they are all under one entity. So it is. Liberals get away with everything, why? Because they have minions.
If anything his cellmate probably did it. An ex cop who wanted bragging rights when he hit the big house. They had already had a problem. If he did kill himself its almost understandable. Here he was some rich soft old guy, getting ready to go to real prison where he would be constantly sexually assaulted shaken down for protection money and probably not that protected. His life wasn't looking up.
Whatever. Cia does better work. El chapo probably worked for Cia or some other alphabet agency of American intelegence. As most other major drug traffickers have. No one whacked him and he couldn't get away with anything either
drug trafficking is 2,147,483,647 times different than Sex trafficking, especially when involving Hollywood elites, Liberal politicians, wealthy of the wealthy, actors, actresses and so on, they are going to go after you, Epstein had to much knowledge, they can't let a man like that go to prison with that much knowledge, so they murdered him, just like they did with Laden after they were done with him.
Don’t know and I don’t actually care. A guy admitting things by a long shot is not enough for putting others in jail anyway.
If others are suspected of working along with him, him saying things is never enough. Either need to have far, far more damning evidence or let the case go
Everyone else that breaks the law serves time, yet Kevin spacey out here killing people, and he’s not investigated.
How many left wing politicians, actors, actresses, ex president, and other high valued people went to Epstein’s island? Besides Stephen hawking, spacey, Clinton and all the rest?
They get away with such evil, and you want to leave that alone?
Firstly, I’m not American and there are more important things to care about. There is no actual evidence of Kevin Spacey killing anyone.
I’m perfectly fine with people being investigated for crimes committed. But a case in court can never hinge in a testimony of 1 guy being so crucial. It’s an addition to other damning evidence.
If there is any actual damning evidence against those individuals, sure go to court. But testimony of 1 guy who potentially knows a lot, even irrespective of how much he knows, is never enough to lock people up for.
I know. I was talking about Kevin Spacey actually killing people.
For example, if bodies are autopsied (which is often the case if there is any doubt on cause) and there was no murder going on, you haven’t really got a leg to stand on here.
Clearly, there seems to be no suspicion that those people were murdered.
I don’t know about you but I tend to prefer autopsies as evidence over mere coincidences about videos.
autopsy won't mean anything if they dub it as a suicide just like they did with Epstein right? the public will believe it
, but the experts are called loons. I find it quite interesting,
you say "I tend to prefer autopsies as evidence over mere coincidences about videos. " well go look at Epstein's post autopsy photos, and tell me, tell me was he killed or did he kill him self? tell me what you yourself thinks.
You should really care... who else is our deep government are involved and were involved with Epstein’s ring, how many others went to his island.. actors, actresses, politicians, ex president, shouldn’t they be found out too?
Of course, hence why I said what I did. But now there’s no point in caring about it, those secrets died with him. Who know? Royals, trump, Clinton etc could have visited. They could have killed him. But who knows now?
We know... hence why your on the post, he was murdered, and trump never went to that island, funny fact almost all those visitors on the flight manifestos from the past were Democrats/liberals and far left advocates.
We assume, but we don’t actually know. Experts have said the damage can be done via Suicide or homicide, that it can be only homicide because they’ve never seen otherwise. Assumption is not fact. Until the facts are fully known and concluded as fact, then we won’t know. And trump also had a party with just him, Epstein and several half naked models. Your point? Or are you going to go into more unverified things like the Clinton murder conspiracy? I really hope not.
So where’s the blood on the “noose”? Please show me it, you can’t, secondly the markings don’t match the size of the “noose” to his neck, they are similar to coord/wire markings, he was murdered, you can’t break those 3 bones from hanging, look at the marks on his neck, it’s too clean to be from what they say it is. Come on wake up
The only good expert that has been performing autopsies longer than you’ve been born is Dr. Baden
Forensic pathologist Dr. Michael Baden said on “America’s Newsroom” on Monday that graphic images showing injuries to Jeffrey Epstein’s neck reaffirm his belief that the “findings are more indicative of homicide” than a suicide.
“I think there's a lot of information that still hasn't been revealed yet that is essential in order to arrive at a conclusion, whether this is a suicide or homicide,” Baden, the pathologist hired by Epstein's brother to investigate his death, said on Monday.
“I think the closing out of the case as a suicide so quickly was premature.”
What you’re doing is attributing fallacy in lieu of actual reasoning. You’re appealing to one expert that shares your predisposed position, and dismissing others who are also qualified and experienced. Could he have been murdered? Definitely. But do we actually know yet? No. When experts are not sure yet, how the hell are you able to come to such a conclusion?
How? Have you ever cleaned a crime scene? Have you ever seen an aftermath of a crime scene? The scene looks to set up, there is no photo of him with the thing around his neck “because the guards panicked trying to revive him”.
It’s hard to tell from that point of view that it was a Suicide, I was a crime scene cleaner with a local coroners office as a contractor when I was 18 and 19. I did it for nearly 2 years.
I’ve seen a lot of scenes involving hanging, and I’ve seen multiple bodies from those hangings, including one with a similar diy noose as what is shown, there would be a lot more bruising around his neck (purple and blue), the bruising should be around his entire neck, it’s not , just the front, not the back.
That’s a lot more common In strangling.
From the experience that I Carry, when there is multiple nooses made, and thrown About, it shows you how gullible they think we are, how could someone with little time by his own, make 8-10 nooses? In a maximum security jail? Makes no sense, why is the note that was released not showing us what is on the back of the note.
Notice when Stephen paddock in Vegas, they wanted us too see the body right? And they also slipped in a note with a pen in the photo in the far, just like Epstein’s. Something about him being locked in a shower with burnt food and giant bugs, but you can clearly see writing faded from the back of the note.
Just like Stephen paddock.
Notice how the media showed the body in Vegas shooting, and now they show us Epstein’s, saying here he is, buy this bullshit.
He was murdered in my opinion, and you can’t win the argument, with my experience it all points to murder.
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