Why the hell torch a Christmas Tree?
So the Fox News Christmas tree got torched. Is it "Hate Crime"?
Why the hell torch a Christmas Tree?
Why the hell torch a Christmas Tree?
Wasn’t it some rando homeless pyro with a history of this stuff? I thought it was LOL funny the way FoxNews was covering it, it was like a couple steps below 9/11. “This was an attack on America, but we will persevere, and build back stronger.”😂 Like just put up another fucking Christmas tree, NYC is filled with crazy assholes, I’m honestly surprised nothing like this has happened before, lmao.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/3pU01sdv-E8
Level 99 dramatic….🤦♂️😂Caveat: Brian Tyler Cohen, the host of this video, is a liberal. He is not agenda-free, I’ll tell you that straight up. But holy shit, neither is FoxNews, so it’s a wash. What I love this Cohen guy for, is he does an excellent job of identifying and articulating a lot of the stuff that has to be read between the lines. Basically, “hey conservatives, I know you SAY this is why you do this, that, and the third…but no one is dumb, and here’s what we all see you’re REALLY doing, verbally and psychologically. We’re reading your ‘between-the-lines’ statements out loud in bold print.” His takes are certainly up for debate like anyone else’s, but for my money, I like the guy’s style. I don’t care about politics so much as I just hate nonsense. Honestly, I don’t even consider myself a liberal, but there are just some conservative “values” and positions that I really don’t respect that are just cloaked ignorance masquerading as the old-fashioned manner of decency, which oftentimes are just shitty attitudes that we should be trying to evolve past. So I enjoy seeing them called out and dressed down, admittedly, haha.
So…is it a hate crime? Who knows. If this dude did for an ideological reason, then yes. If he’s just some rando homeless guy….. crazies gon’ crazy, I don’t really know what to tell you there. Shit, I’ve known homeless people who intentionally try to go to jail this time of year because it beats wintertime homelessness, this could’ve been a case of that, for all we know.
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Technically I guess it could be a hate crime. The only reason I can see this being one is that there have been people who have vandalised Synagogues by spraying swastikas and other hate related graffiti on them, which is a hate crime.
While a Synagogue and a Christmas Tree are inanimate objects, they also have religious symbolism, where Christmas is a holiday to celebrate the birth of Jesus... Pagen Origins, Santa and Capitalism notwithstanding. Destroying or vandalising a Christmas tree could be considered a hate crime, but in limited situations, such as if it's a tree that is someone else's property.
On the flip side, Christmas trees are routinely discarded and treated like trash after they're taken down and therefore could just be decoration for many, with little religious connection to the owner of said tree. In such a case, it would merely be vandalism rather than a hate crime.
In a court of law, the accused's "Intent" needs to be factored in. Did they do it because of hatred toward Christianity? Did they do it because they just don't like Fox News or have an issue with someone who works there? Did they do it because they think Fox News is Right Wing Propaganda and they identify as left leaning? Or did they do it just for the attention and a laugh?
Motive and Intent have to be considered. You can't just claim something is a hate crime simply because you want it to be.
CNN, fox News... etc. If it's based on political beliefs, on either side. It's a hate crime. People Being offended by someone's beliefs, and acting out in a way that creates fear, is the definition of domestic terrorism...
Same as racism. You can believe something is or isn't racist. However, judging anyone based on the pigment of there skin, is racist. Same as judging someone for there beliefs. People who harm others based on beliefs, hold the same beliefs as the worst leaders in our worlds history!
To even consider this to be OK. Is disgusting
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This is a perfect example of the irrational behavior of the lefty libtards. They are morons my first time voting will be 2024! And they won't beable to steal elections and we won't be thinking to ourselves that , if a deserving Republican wins, then the left will burn down and loot because the police is un-empowered.
Game over!
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Crimes should be punished based on their physical results.
Burning someone else's property... in public is vandalism, arson... possibly a felony based on the value of what was destroyed.
You are dealing with lunacy when you start trying to read the minds of someone and charge them based on their thoughts.
"Hate" crime in and of itself is foolish.
Murder is against the law. Assault is against the law. That is sufficient. Trying to get into the head of an offender and to guess that they "hated" the object of their attack and to charge them differently is just lunacy.
This guy should be charged with the normal penalty's for vandalism, arson, or any other charges damaging property and lighting fires in public places and disturbing the peace and or dangers their acts may have caused. That is all. - 426 opinions shared on Trending & News topic.
Depends on the circumstances. I can empathize with someone being so over Christmas after a life of having to endure it EVERY YEAR, that they're driven insane and then go and torch a Christmas tree.
But if he is doing it because he hates Christians or thinks it goes against his own bullshit religion which he believes is the only truth or some crap like that, it's a hate crime.
But going back to my original point. I think Christmas should be like the Olympics. Once every 4 years and every country goes in a draw to decide where it will be. Then the people who really want Christmas, can go to that place. - 395 opinions shared on Trending & News topic.
"Hate crime"? What the Hell is that? All crimes are "hate crimes".
So NYC decided to let this asshole loose so he can repeat his crime spree. I hope there aren't any Christmas Parades going on there anytime soon. Oh wait!!! a! -
He's not white enough for it to not be a hate crime. Just make sure he isn't a trump supporter before accusing him of a hate crime. If he is a trump supporter then obviously this was a mentally disturbed lone wolf. If itnisnt then this guy is a mirror representation of the entire democratic party and we should talk about it every day for the next 10 months 😅
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Fox news and the right wing in general have the worst case of martyr syndrome (being the victim) that I've ever seen. It's like an entire portion of the population has borderline personality disorder with a healthy dose of paranoia.
It was a random homeless person with mental health issues, nothing more.
My god these people are amazing at being victims. - 356 opinions shared on Trending & News topic.
Nope. Little to do with faux news and trust those bastards trying to spin a story out of little and make it all about them.
The building also houses the offices of the Wall Street Journal and the New York Post. The suspect is also not known to have any affiliations at this point.
Could just be a moment of Christmas madness from him. Won't know until the trial. -
Depends on the context. But considering he attacked Fox News - there is a good chance this is politically motivated towards conservatives and/or christians. Thus by todays standards it should be considered a hatecrime.
Though, chances are it will not. Can't behateful towards conservatives and christians apparently. -
No, a Christmas tree is not a religious symbol, nor is it related to a religion, race, or culture, at all. Except maybe ancient pagans. It's more a consumer-capitalist symbol, making it a political symbol more than anything else.
Still, that is 100% arson and should carry either jail time or a hefty fine. - 424 opinions shared on Trending & News topic.
In order to be a hate crime, you first have to prove that it is "motivated by bias on the basis of race, religion, sexual orientation, or gender identity"... in most states. If the prosecutor can do that, good luck. It's more likely the guy's a nut job, or he just hates Fox News, which doesn't fit into any of those categories! LOL
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No matter if it was a hate crime or not he will no spend any time in jail because we in NYC have a no bail policy. The IDIOTS that run NYC do not care about the people who live and work and pay taxes. They pander to people who they think will vote for THE DEMOCRATIC COMMUNIST PARTY OF AMERICA to help keep them in office and will lead to the down fall of this country that is the objective. OH by the way the perp is already out on no bail for another crime.
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It's not a hate crime but you can still be charged. If you own that Christmas tree then burn it, it's not a problem but it creates a sort of pollution like burning plastic which is against the law depending on where you live. Burning someone else's Christmas tree means you're destroying someone else's property which is also obviously against the law.
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No, hate crime implies that he has a motivation that is against minorities (which isn't how it should work but that's how it is) or some other protected class. As far as I know, Fox News is one of the last groups of people that the left would put in that category. This guy is just a psycho.
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I actually think that's funny. Like he was probably upset about something and decided that of all ways to express his anger, he was going to torch the Christmas tree. That's similar to what the grinch did lol. I don't know why I find that funny.
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No need for option C. He was released without bail.
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How the frick is that a hate crime? Did some christian group complain because burning a symbol of their religion or something?
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It should be a terrorist attack, because now there won't be a Christmas tree there until next year.
He terrorized all Christians by showing what he will do if he gets half a chance to any Christian. -
Well I wouldn't term it a hate crime.. I don't reckon he torched it cuz he hates Christmas. He probably hates Fox 💀 That or he really is a psycho
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Why would he be accused of a hate crime? "Who" is he hating?
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Eh, it's nbd. Just get another tree. I mean, yeah, it was incredibly rude. And he should spend a week in jail and have to pay restitution. But I think it should be a misdemeanor, not a felony.
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Trumptarded QAnons smashing apart my Capitol is fine but destroying a tree? That's totally unacceptable.
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