Will Jack Teixeira, the 21yo criminal leaker, become the right-wing's new hero?

[supercutebutt]

Apparently, Jack is a gun enthusiast, virulent racist and anti-semite. He leaked sensitive documents about Ukraine online to kids in his little gaming club. Will this degenerate now be fully embraced by the Christian Conservative community? VOTE BELOW!

"I have hate in my heart" - Jack Teixeira

No. He will not become a right-wing hero.

Yes. I guarantee Tucker Carlson will try to make this kid a MAGA hero.

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@supercutebutt predicts the future: Fox News’ Tucker Carlson gave a bizarre defense of suspected intelligence leaker Jack Teixeira on Thursday night. The primetime host claimed that federal authorities arrested Teixeira to cover up a covert, illegal US presence in Ukraine, and as punishment for contradicting “the National Security State and their obedient servants in the media.”

[Hulk_kitty]

They are just making a circus out this kid, some people are jumping on the band wagon from his mistake, others just hating on his mistake. They are just using his mistake to hurt each other.

Its quiet sad really, America is just making themselves look like a joke, British Int questions America safety on secrets now. This just cause trust issues between allies.

It doesn't matter if he is 21, if he committed murder he would still go to prison, no one would care, if he will get life sentence. But if everyone is going nuts because he able to see top secret info. I would believe they gave him full training, and made him fully aware of the consequences if he were to leak it anywhere. It is the same he knows killing someone is a crime, he chose to leak, then he chooses to do time. They both serious crimes.

This situation is no different from going out drink driving and then killing someone, even though it was not his intentions to kill. You still need to be held accountable.

This kid is just a stupid insecure, and thought he wouldn't get caught sharing amongst his pals on discord. This is the consequences of peer pressure.

[Hulk_kitty]

I don't believe he is hero, just a circus kid for everyone to just jump on the band wagon for their political gain.

[Amy10223]

Mistake?

[Hulk_kitty]

@Amy10223 yes mistake, just basically not thinking of what his doing, and peer pressure came into the situation. We all make bad decisions. He intentions was not for the whole world to see the information, just his friends. That says, he didn't really understand the whole gravity of the situation.

[Hulk_kitty]

@Amy10223 Just cause you or I do something stupid or serious, doesn't mean , its is not a mistake. We all make bad decisions, it doesn't make us bad people.
You going out drink driving and killing someone doesn't make you a bad or evil person, just makes you a reckless and careless person, and made a bad decision. It was a stupid mistake.
definition of a mistake "an act or judgement that is misguided or wrong."
No everyone who commits serious crimes is a bad person, they are just people who need help. Society has a bad mentality, lets just throw them prison and never give this person a chance again, however I do agree certain crimes are not forgivable.

[Amy10223]

What you say at the end is what I agree with. He does look and acted as if he was mentally unstable. A sane person would not have done what he did in sharing top secret information. It's either that, or he is just plain naive. That is why he is in serious trouble.

[Hulk_kitty]

@Amy10223 I agree with you, either plainly naive, or has mental health issues.

[Hulk_kitty]

@Amy10223 but however what is the definition of a sane person. edward snowden is very clever an sane person, and did it. But I also think these type of people are looking for a quick root to fame, and make loads of money of it, he is making millions off it now. As mum said, there is no thanks for been a hero. I don't think edward snowden act will not change anything either. Governments will never change, regardless of leaks.
I do believe the government keeps secrets for reason, because general public can't handle that information, if we were to know that. I do I believe the government is full of good, no. but that the same time, they are making so many difficult decisions, that not everyone will agree with.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[monorprise]

It seems extremely irresponsible of the goverment to allow such a young guy (with so little history to prove himself) access to soo much classified information.

The whole point of a secrete is to insure as few people know it as possible, which is why as a rule you need to have a need to know.

What was this Young Massachusetts national guards man's need to know?

Frankly if he was indeed the leakier, the Federal Goverment has some real problems securing its secretes, inexcusable after Edward Snowden.

Compartmentalize secrete information, and only trust the people with the longest of trustworthy track records with a position of deciding who gets access to what.

[Hulk_kitty]

don't get me wrong, I think you have a valid answer. but could you could say that about anything when it comes to being 21, driving is dangerous, you can kill others and yourself, if you don't respect what a car can do, you could say that about having a gun, you shouldn't have a gun at 21.

I don't think age has nothing to do with it to some degree, I honestly think it very hard to know, who to trust. People cheat, lie, look at Robert Hansen, edward snowden, they both very intelligent and much older than jack, and still traded government secret.

I feel a lot of situations we face in life, is your damned if you do, and damned if you don't. No perfection solution, but a solution that might work given the current situation. Life is all trial and error, until something does work.

[monorprise]

@Hulk_kitty Its true a 21 year old can be a honest trustworthy guy, he just doesn't have the historical track record to both establish and prove that as well as someone say in their late 30s.

There is of course more to trust than simply the track record which a young kid typical fails at as well, the other is family and children.
If a forign goverment offered a 21 year old with little ties enormous amounts of money and a safe place to defect in exchange for particularity valuable secretes it would be relatively easy for him to do that. A man with family to whom he is strongly tied would find that much more difficult.

Hence why you don't let unmarried men without children deal with your most top secrete information or tecnoligy such as a stealth fighter. Logistically its too easy for him to simply take the money and fly off.
If he had a family he was tied living here he would have a lot more connections abandon, or chances to raise flags or spill the beans moving them all if he did get such an offer.

So yes Age is very important in determine trustworthiness, just as t also puts people in an ever less advantageous position to betray you.

[Hulk_kitty]

fair enough, I do feel like you, 25 is the good age for people to handle stuff like this, but also courts should show mercy with people under this age, because they are too young to understand the consequences.
I am kind of on your side that he was too young to handle this info.

[monorprise]

@Hulk_kitty The case for 25 puts the threshold at mental maturity and that is indeed a great improvement in every respect including giving more life experience to help the goverment identify his charterer.

But its still not as good as someone in their late 30s, for a position of data vault guard I probably wouldn't choose anyone under 40 and less than 10 years a trusted employee of the goverment.

If your going to give someone the keys to the kingdom of secrete information you really should have as long a list of reasons to be loyal and record of loyalty as possible. This in fact would be a job qualification and we would ideally have as few people as possible in such jobs.

That they let a 21 year old into such a position of broad access just says the goverment has almost no security. That they did it after Edward Snowden shows they are entirely incompetently organized and they don't learn from their mistakes. No wonder China is robing us blind.

[Hulk_kitty]

Completely agree, I am not going to debate with you anymore lol, you are very knowledgeable on this topic. I haven't got a leg to stand on.

[Agape93]

Why are all these anti semite, white nationalist Christian criminals always some dopey looking dumbass

[Amy10223]

I hate to say it, but just his looks, make him look nuts.

[D_Bone_Steak]

There is a chance and it's not as simple as just left and right wing. Both parties have divisions within the parties. Establishment Republicans are going to hate this kid. Anti-establishment both left and right are going to think he's exposing the establishment. The far left is going to run with the guns and racist stuff (I never even heard about that at all until just now). I'm guessing you're seeing this from a far left viewpoint, so I have to ask... he was sexist too wasn't he? 😂

[supercutebutt]

I am not "far-left." Never have been. I am a centrist who teases extremists like you. :)

[D_Bone_Steak]

I'm more centrist than you in my opinion.

[Siri137]

No SCB, you're definitely far-Left. To the left of Lenin in fact. Your views are certainly not in any way mainstream.

[lightbulb27]

He will be cast as a hero on the right, and the devil by the left.

In another parallel inverted universe.. if Trump or another republican was in charge and the same exact war started...

The right would be frying him and the left would be praising his glories for exposing the lies of this hideous war and the lying government behind it, scheming liars.

...

Such is the fate of our reality...

[BoobSlayer]

Here's a more likely scenario. As a kid, Jack was too busy reading about guns and tanks to learn anything about computer security. The Russians executed a brute force attack on his unpatched Windows laptop and got in with the password "JesusLovesMeBang! Bang!"

[monorprise]

Its possible, but then again Goverment secretes are stored on servers secured by goverment professionals following industry standard rules including but not limited password complexity requirements.

What I can't understand is how a responsible goverment gave a 21 year old Massachusetts National guardsmen gain access to such highly classified information in the first place?
What was his need to know this spesfic information?

It makes no sense at all for such information to be available to anyone outside the pentagon, let alone someone in the Massachusetts National Guard.

Having a Top Secrete Clearance means the Goverment trust you to maintain such secretes if you need to know them. What was his need to know theses secretes?

[BoobSlayer]

@monorprise Is it possible he was obsessive and downloaded documents to his laptop to study them more closely?

[monorprise]

The problem is that he was allowed to download secrete information to his laptop which he didn't need to know. @boobslayer

[FellowTraveler]

I was in the US Armed Forces. Despite what the public at large may think, this is something that EVERY person in uniform SHOULD NOT DO - PERIOD! The information is SECRET / TOP SECRET for a reason. There is NO POSSIBLE WAY that he did not know this was wrong. But nevertheless he did it for the following 2 reasons:

1. Because he could!, OR

2. Because he could and thought he could get away with it!

What don't you get, he is a TRAITOR, just like Snowden.

[AFretiredTXn]

As a young airman myself (50 years ago) I was given a "Top Secret Clearance; with Special Background Investigation (SBI) during the 1st year I was in. It was for the type of work I was doing at that time. Manual Morse Code Interception, with the USAF Security Service Intelligence.

[legalboxers]

@afretiredtxn -salutes-

[monorprise]

I doubt very much they just told you whatever top secrete information you asked for. A Top Secrete clearance means the goverment trust you to maintain Top Secrete information If and only if you have a need to know.

What seems fishy about this story is how a 21 year old Massachusetts National Guard gained access to theses spesfic secrete.
It seems entirely inappropriate for anyone outside of the pentagon to know such, let alone a 21 year old in Massachusetts working part time. If he wasn't handed it by someone higher up, then this speaks of a far more significant organizational problem in the U. S. Goverment.

[legalboxers]

Tucker Carlson will influence Jim Jordan, Marjorie, and Matt Gatez to prop this guy up like Kyle Rittenhouse.

[supercutebutt]

Marjorie is already on Team Teixeira. She is a big fan.

[legalboxers]

@supercutebutt how did I guess

[Jerre]

Not a chance in a million. He’s going to be in jail for many, many years!

[supercutebutt]

Trump is a criminal and conservatives love him no matter what.

[Jerre]

Thank you for the Like

[supercutebutt]

As predicted, Tucker loves Teixeira. And of course so does the mentally disturbed Marjorie Taylor Greene :)

[Anonymous]

Just by being a racist and anti-Semite the right already love him. Make him a misogynist and transphobe and he's basically the 2nd coming of Jesus for white Americans.

[WhiteBoyChill]

That’s not how it works

[DryGermanGuy]

How the hell gets some 21 year old gamer nerd access to top secret military documents in the first place? :-o

[supercutebutt]

He was in the Air National Guard and probably found a MAGA sympathizing superior to help him fuck over the USA.

[DryGermanGuy]

Wow. Seems you called it.

www.theguardian.com/.../pentagon-leaks-suspect-reaction-republicans-tucker-carlson

[supercutebutt]

Yup. Right-wingers should move to Russia since they love Putin so much. :) Don't let the door hit you in the ass, Trumptards!

[LiamJHayden]

No idea, but I do find it funny that they jumps all over this kid while Trump, Biden, Pence, Hillary, and God only knows how many House and Senate members have mishandled Top Secret info that is far more important than this stuff.

[supercutebutt]

The people you mentioned didn't share the secrets online with the world though.

[Anonymous]

The right loves criminals, murderers, rapists and pedophiles if the past few years are anything to go on.

[WhiteBoyChill]

Actually leftists are the ones that believe in bonding them out of jail and letting them vote.

[Makeushiver]

probably, he's a criminal and that seems to be a requirement

[stepyo99]

Sounds like a good kid to me. Anything that damages the credibility of the US State is a positive, despite how much NPCs whine about it.

[lottiebannotie]

I have no idea who this retard is but I certainly hope he gets fucked in his ass by Satan himself

[loveslongnails]

He may be all those things you say, but there is something of substance about the information. It seems to be both an embarrassment for the NY Times over promoting a lie from the Biden Administration. I'd have to get deeper into it. Biden's no angel either, he's just not Trump.

[supercutebutt]

"Substance?" LOL! Of course. He leaked our military secrets. I guess you can be on his side but that means you are on Russia's side and also China's side and fat Trump's side. I'll stick with Ukraine, Europe & USA. :)

[loveslongnails]

" I guess you can be on his side but that means you are on Russia's side and also China's side and fat Trump's side." Excuse me?

No kid, don't get your panties all in a twist. You need to read what the NY Times had to say about some of the information they saw in the documents. That's a different issue than the fact that the kid released classified documents, which is a crime, yes. The NY Times is saying "... yeah, that was wrong, but Joe... there's some shady shit in here so what is it?"

I can be fully against Trump and Russia and want Trump to pay for his actions and ALSO believe that Biden's 10 times better in all ways, while still believing he's no angel too. Compared to Trump, yes, he's a saint, but everyone has to be accountable. Both these positions are possible simultaneously.

[supercutebutt]

What's shady? That the USA is on the side of democracy and freedom and against a murderous dictator who will bomb the shit out of sovereign people and poison anyone who disagrees? Get your brain right.

[loveslongnails]

"Get your brain right." I suggest you read some of the articles and see what the Times is talking about before you rant. Right now you're not even on subject. No one, not me, is disagreeing with your point above, but that's not at all what I'm talking about.

[supercutebutt]

If the kid is on the side of Putin and Trump then he isn't on my side. So I will continue to bash him. There is nothing heroic about fucking over your own country when your country is on the right side of history. I fully expect USA and Ukraine to have military secrets in an effort to beat the sinful war RUSSIA waged. This isn't Biden's war. It is 100% Putin's war of choice. :)

[loveslongnails]

Ok, again, you're not listening to what I said. I agree that releasing the documents is criminal, I hate Putin, I loathe Trump, all that. What I SAID is that the NY Times found some things about certain statements made by the Biden administration that caused them concern. They never said they backed the kid, or didn't back helping Ukraine, etc. You keep harping that point to me, and you're preaching to the choir. No one is debating that Putin started this - that isn't the point, at least not to me. The question isn't was it wrong to make those documents public - it was.

To me, the question is - what is in some of those documents that is making the NY Times raise their eyebrows about the administration. That's what I want to know, and no one is talking, obviously.

[supercutebutt]

All I know is Biden is on the correct side of this. Many Americans are backing Russia, which I find deplorable.

[loveslongnails]

Ok, one more time luv... this isn't about who's on the right side. I want to know what is bugging the NY Times. I suspect it has to do with some statements made publicly that contradicted some things they saw in the docs. It's not about backing Russia vs the USA. Get it?

[supercutebutt]

I just don't care. I mean of course there will be contradictions. When there's a war, there are secrets. :)

[loveslongnails]

Well, I care if there were lies told the public by any administration and then acts to the contrary that followed. Since I don't know specifically what the Times is talking about, there's no point in speculating. I already agree with helping Ukraine and being against Russia and Trump, so let's move on.

[Exterminatore]

@cute

Marjorie is foolish and not widely embraced amongst conservatives. She’s equally as crazy as, albeit slightly more intelligent than AOC.

[loveslongnails]

@Exterminatore I love when you prove how stupid you really are, and it's difficult, I know, because stupid people have no way of knowing they're actually stupid. MGT is a perfect example, as you are for thinking she's intelligent at all. AOC is Einstein compared to MTG, and also a person who sees through the ruse.

I challenge you to watch this and see if you can confirm what I already know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h810bO-4LIs

[Siri137]

SCB, you're a comedienne, right? You have to be. "The USA is on the side of democracy and freedom". Ahahahahaha! Hilarious! :D

[gorydetails]

Seems completely plausible that someone who can barely buy a beer has access to all those top secret documents, lol.

[supercutebutt]

Trump is 4x his age and equally dirty.

[jshm2]

if he is the leaker.

It is all still to go to court.

[Exterminatore]

It’s a stupid question. Like anyone is gonna embrace someone who essentially committed treason.

[supercutebutt]

Is my question stupid because it's obvious right-wingers would defend him?
www.fox5atlanta.com/.../rep-marjorie-taylor-greene-defends-man-accused-of-leak-demands-answers-about-ukraine

[Exterminatore]

No it’s as I stated. This essentially amounts to treason. It’s a serious breech of security with no justifiable cause.

The only guy who ever did anything remotely like this that could be possibly commended was Snowden, as pretty much all that data collected by the NSA was probably in the vain of illegal search and seizure. I don’t think the government should be spying on its citizens.

This however is a different matter. Marjorie is fairly well known for her crack pot conspiracy theories so I can’t take her seriously. I don’t think she is well liked or supported amongst most conservatives and I don’t think most take her seriously either.

I’ll watch the video now.

[Exterminatore]

After reading it I don’t know what to say. If anyone seriously thinks the US doesn’t have “military advisers” AKA Green Barrett’s and other special forces their they’re kidding themselves. How are we gonna give military and financial aid without assessments from those who know. So I don’t find that part at all shocking and I don’t think it means we’re fighting a proxy war there.

None the less I firmly disagree her stance. I also find it hard to believe she has now knowledge of this if she’s on the national security counsel.

What does she think? We’re sending billions and weapons without some of our people on the other end to assess how the war is going and if they are winning or likely to loose, so it can be determined if this is a good idea? Not to mention their soldiers need training. I’m sure anyone we have there is assisting with that. Not really any different than we did in Vietnam, or any other assistance to an ally in any conflict.

I think she’s off her rocker and potentially dangerous from what I’ve read about all this so far.

[supercutebutt]

@Exterminatore Marjorie is a troll. She needs to be voted out.

[msc545]

Nah. He is Hispanic, and we know the right wing only likes white people.

[Red_Arrow]

Clarence Thomas is black, and they love him!

[msc545]

@Red_Arrow True, but blacks are now "acceptable" to the fascists.

[Red_Arrow]

Your words, "we know the right wing only likes white people."

[supercutebutt]

@msc545 @Red_Arrow... Both Carlson and Greene have defended Teixeira. With Tucker, it could be an act, just like he pretends to love Trump to please his viewers. But it proves that Republicans are anti-American now. Even the opposite of Ronald Reagan. Who they still claim to love.

[Red_Arrow]

Being Air National Guard, Teixeira obviously had plenty of instruction on handling classified material. So he deserves prison time and loss of all benefits he gained by being in the military. and being such a traitor, of course the Republicans love him.

[Anonymous]

He exposed U. S lies, liberals are angry he damaged the western narrative and shows that the ''free press'' lies and is just another branch of the U. S government.