It would depend on what variety of feminist you are. Are you a gender feminist that believes that male and females only behave as they do because of social constructs? Are you a equity feminist that believes in equal opportunity or do you believe in equality of outcomes? Are you a marxist feminist that believes we need to destroy all the social institutions of the Patriarchy? It's not so simple as there are a 100 flavors of feminist.
Gender equality is a noble cause but it means different things to different people. Just because someone does not believe in a dogmatic ideology does not make them a sexist, a bigot or a misogynist. They are just of the belief feminism is not the way to achieve it. I would say the majority of people fit into this category since only about 20% of people identify as feminists. This being because the methods to achieve equality that many disagree with cannot be separated from the label.
I have indicated that I am unlikely to get along with a feminist in my profile. That is my preference. Why do I want to bother dating someone who allows her beliefs to be guided by an ideology I believe is at best inherently flawed and at worst incredibly damaging. I'm saving both parties time.
Some are acting like kids throwing their toys out of the pram and trying to make a loud enough noise to attract attention in the vain hope it will change things.
Some know you wouldn't date them anyway and are trying to pull a "You can't fire me, I quit!" maneuver. lol
Personally, I wouldn't care if she was a feminist. I might prefer it, I might not. You can't really decide based on something like that in my opinion. On my list of requirements and desirable qualities in a woman, the issue of feminism is never anywhere to be seen which is odd when you consider that I've gotten stick from some guys here for saying I'm a feminist.
I'm not sure if the ones u are speaking about are really feminists. I consider myself a feminist because I respect myself, other women and men even more so. How do u expect them to respect us if we come about it from a place of hatred and a false sense of intitlement? Does that even justify bashing other ppl? No. Of course I am totally against the injustices that women nowadays suffer at the hands of some very poorly educated men.
That's basically my opinion :) Luckily, I managed to find a fellow feminist to date and it's working well, he's helped teach me a lot.
so true.. but prepare for outrages of angry feminist-hating men lol
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It's absurd to infer that men who want nothing to do with feminists are as you describe. You will have extreme difficulty, finding a man, who believes women to be sandwhich making vaginas etc Thats just silly. Furthermore, i think you'r much more likely to be treated better by a non feminist man.
As i think that many of these cringy "male feminists" are often part of the pathetic minority of men, who will do anything to get laid, and those sort of men are seldom prepared to commit to a proper relationship. Over the past several years, i have had to endure from feminists. Many hateful articles in various publications, a mountain of hate online. Campaigns against "manspreading" "mansplaining" and "toxic masculinity" etc etc
I even learned of an astonishly large group of feminists, who have been campaigning, against increasing the very low budget for prostate cancer research; as they would like to see more men die from cancer. Saying that you have to support this political movement if you believe in equal rights; sounds almost cult -like. Like saying you have to be a christian if you believe in god. It seems archaic for a person to identify as a feminist in 2020.
As women have had equal rights for a very long time. It's like someone introducing themselves as being an anti apartheid activist. Hence if someone says they are a feminist, then i assume they support modern feminism. Which has nothing to do with equal rights that women already have, rather it is fundamentally a far left hate group, it's marxist poison, and i think they victimize themselves.
You may not be that way, but the feminists in power are. For that reason, i have too much self respect, to want anything to do with someone who gleefully tells me they are a feminist. It would make me feel so lowly; that i just can't do it. I have only once dated a girl who started going on about feminism.
It was many years ago and i took her to a persian restaurant. I can't remember much, just that i waited till i had finished my fensjan, before i got up and walked away. If you were a man, then i am sure you would feel the same way.
1. Why would you think that a guy cares what you think of his dating choice? It seems like he's just informing you of his feelings and you're getting all defensive and need to make sure everyone knows you don't care as if to invalidate his choice.
2. I don't think that not dating a feminist has ANYTHING to do with not respecting a woman as a human being. I think it's to do with feminists who jump to that conclusion, like anyone who doesn't march to the feminist drums and drink the kool-aid is automatically a misogynistic asshole.
Can't you see how that simplistic binary mindset where "you're either with me or against me" is just an unattractive trait in a person? ... especially if you're a guy looking to date a girl because that immediately associates you with the "out group."
I'd probably trying dating a feminist but if I feel like they're ignoring men's issues, only focusing on women and just generally demonizing maleness, then to me obviously they're not that mindful of equality and I can't be around that.
"If you don't believe in my worth as a human beyond my vagina or ability to bear children or make you sandwiches"
That's why you think people don't like feminists? That is what you call a strawman argument, isn't it?
When you say idiotic things like that, you can't expect people to want you.
And like another user said, it's voicing an opinion on various questions on this site. No one outside of forums is going around yelling about not wanting feminists. The question gets asked, people answer.
Perhaps a relationship forum (or any internet forum) is just not your cup of tea.
Because feminists don't understand the sentimental value that is a woman bringing a child into this world or her making a nice meal, to put it in the narrow perspective youve described.
Good for you that you don't care, you'll get no sympathy from me or the other men who value these two things you exclusively picked on when you can't find a loving, meaningful, fruitful relationship because you're waging a false war of equality in the 21st century
Chivalry is dead and women killed it with feminism.
Says she doesn't care what we think, proceeds to post a question proving that she does care. And what a nice a straw man theory you got there, you get that at the latest slut walk? There has also been some shit that gone down lately in the SJW/feminist crowd that proves what non-feminist men have been saying for a while, male feminist are only saying they are feminist to try to get sex from women. It's also funny how a non-feminist man, such as myself, think women are more than just for sex. It's funny how it works that way.
No one gives a f*ck if you care or not. But apparently, you DO care enough to write this question, which I find ironic. Also, once again, a feminist is wrong and stupid about something and creating another strawman. Feminism =/= "respecting women." If anything, feminists have NO respect for women or women's agency, at all.
But yeah, keeping thinking no self-respecting man not wanting to date an angry, bitter, negative, whiny, insecure, immature, talentless, ungrateful man-hating cunt who has less respect for men than she does women or herself means all men don't respect you, your vagina, or your ability to pop a babies out of your pussy like all female mammals can. I'm sure we're ALL broken up about it.
Now don't you have angry Mary Sue article to write about "how oxygen is sexist, and we REALLY need to talk about it"?
This posting illustrates precisely *why* men won't date feminists.
You all need to realize that men in the United States don't walk around all day plotting how we can oppress women and destroy their lives. This notion that you have that men see women as sandwich-making vaginas is childish, and it shows the shallowness with which you view men. Judging by this posting I doubt you've ever had much interaction with men, other than maybe those in your immediate family.
That is not what a man thinks when he thinks of the word "feminist".
when a man hears the word "feminist' the picture we have is "nasty, inconsiderate, men hating women, many times lesbians, who claim to want to be equal exact for when it comes to asking out guys first or paying for dates".
that may not be what a feminist is, but many women have ruined that word for you women. Because that is what most guys think of.
1.) Don't confuse women and feminists. While I don't respect feminists, I respect women. Think of Germans in WW2: not every German was fascist.
2.) Because over the time you'll get bored having a mangina near you.
Feminists who think men who won't date you don't believe in equality, why do you think we care? You're already biased against us based on our gender, blame us for all your problems, and assume that feminism is the only path to equality when it's not even close. It's not even on the same road as equality. So, we wash of our hands of you and don't look back. We don't care about you either. Stop pretending we do.
i would date a feminist but i wouldn't date one that sounded as resentful as you, thats for sure
I think if your a man, an Asian women is the way to go. They treat you with respect and actually come right out and ask if you want a babies as a pickup line👍👍👍 . They live to have a family. The best friends and partners for life😊😂. A feminist to me is a man without a male member and to be treated as such. Their not wife options you don't want them raising your male kids😊. 90% of Asian society the women really want men for who they are and their roles. Philippines or other countries it's the only option. Just my view as with most of my friends the women are men here don't waste your resources and time or your young sons mental health.
date an female rights advocate yeah being one myself i could date them but dating a feminist that's a big no no for me. well at least in my local area the ones here are filled with man venom and spit it around every where i doubt I could even get one in a room for 5 mins without hostility or even date one haha :D
If you don't believe in my worth as a human beyond my lack of vagina or ability to make children or win bread for you to make sandwiches, why would I want to date you? Like, what exactly do you think you have to offer if you don't see me as a human being?
There's a spectrum of "feminists." Any man worth his salt isn't going to expect a servile... servant, but on the other hand, guys don't want to end up with someone who's going to bail on them, take their kids, their house, their assets, and a sizeable chunk of their future income (all told, their self-worth) - literally "cashing out" the instant they start to get bored with the relationship.
Don't want kids.
I like to cook.
Like women with some personality.
Why not date a feminist? Sounds like a good time.
I don't care whether you care or not. The idea that all men who oppose feminism view women as inferior is ridiculous. I agree with @Eugene on his points.
I'm a fan of women, and spend a little too much time trying to shut down & educate misogynist posters.
I hope every anti-feminist gets what they deserve: a lonely life.
i think they are very very few jerks who treat women like that... dont over think this.. calm down..
Just because you don't believe in feminism doesn't mean you don't see women as equals. Feminism does a lot of horrible things and people don't like when people associate with them. Not all of feminism is bad but all you hear is the bad it does so people prefer not to be around it.
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