If you sont buy free range.. why?

[Anonymous]

I was just wondring why people choose to buy eggs, meat or dairy thats not raised humainy? The animals that you buy are kept in cages to small to turn around and are treated horrible. Im a vegitarian only because i can't live without chesesey pasta haha. But seriously i just thought either people dont know how the animals are being raised or they just dont think about it. But the only people i can think of that would approve of buying tortured meat are cereal killers or somthing. Im just shocked when i see adaults buying the "cheapest" meat.. Its only a 2-3 dollar difference anyway considering your buying better quality and happier cows or chickens. Im tottaly fine with people eating meat i get that people just like the tayste or watever the reason is. Okay i guess im just asking if you dont buy free range or if you are not a vegitarian why?

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so your saying you dont have an aliby

[ironeddie]

Money.

A 2 or 3 dollar difference on all your meat, veggies, fruit, whatever adds up quite quickly. People live the money they have. A family of 4 or 5 (example) might be living pay to pay. Not everyone has $75,000.00 a year job.

There are other expenses in life as well. Mortgage/rent, bills, maybe a car, gas, clothes, school supplies, college The list goes on and on.

Maybe once you get out in the real world, you'll be better able to appreciate what you do to survive.

[ironeddie]

As for "cereal killers" I could polish off a box of Cheerios rather quickly. But I prefer to go slow and savour the experience. ;-)

[Asker]

i make my own money buy my own food my mom pays for phone and house thats it i pay for half the tv and water and electricity so i have an idea and if they went vegan it would be sooooo muxh cheaper

[ironeddie]

Not everyone wants to be vegan. You're under 18 and can pay for all that? Do you go to school/college.

Do you buy your mom's food? Who pays for the other half of the TV, water, electricity. And the property taxes? Home repairs? Savings for retirement? etc. etc.

You might have an idea what it's like. But believe me. You will be in for a shock when you move out.

[Asker]

im homeschooled and have 2 jobs like real ones my mom pays for the othet half and the goverment helps with bills

[rugrat]

Yay! Another realistic person here!

[Asker]

and they may not want to be vegan but if they can't afford it then they should

[ironeddie]

@woodyjhonson - . You are entitled to your opinion about life.

But you are ignorant of the facts that it entails.

[Asker]

cuz im right maybe your intitiled to support torturing animals

[JackKerouac77]

Most people aren't aware of the practices or shy away from documentaries that show that.

Consumers are slowly learning, and when they demand it the marketplace will change.

It is still a transition process.

[creativeusername101]

it won't ever change. unfortunetly the vegetarian and free range industry is just as money hungry as the conventional food industry. the higher cost is a huge part of the problem. most people can't afford the 20-40% grocery bill increase for those products.

[JackKerouac77]

@creativeusername101
So negative! Of course it will change, as long as the economic model changes with it. Right now it's cheaper to factory farm, so that is the dominant way to do things. All economies are based on prices and money supply (which can regulate supply and demand), so the money from one market will have to flow into another to tip the scales.

It might take 400 years to get there, but eventually it will get there. Remember that factory farming has only been around 100+ years.

My personal opinion is that people should raise their own animals like they did in the old days, but people aren't keen on that now.

[Asker]

but 75% of purchases in the grocery store are animal products so boom

[creativeusername101]

@jackkerouac77 I'm not being negative. only realistic. it won't happen.

@asker 75% (maybe) of food in a typical grocery store is processed. not all animal by products though. please, do more research before you rant.

[JackKerouac77]

@creativeusername101
Maybe not in your lifetime. I'll let the free market decide.

[Asker]

im saying 75% of money spent on food is animal products bitch

[JackKerouac77]

EYYYYYYYYYYYYYY SIMMER DOWN, YOU TWO

[CommieDearest]

The scary thing about free range is that... there's not really a definition of it, so a lot of "free range" products you see are just people who were clever enough to slap that shit on there for doing shit almost as bad as every other place.

I DO buy free range in the hopes that it IS coming from a place more humane, but don't hold your breath.

[Asker]

i get what ypu mean but thats more a organic. your thinking of cage free witch means thier held in a room bunched together. i get pasture grazed

[CommieDearest]

Same issue there really.

[Asker]

well i know exatly where my milk and cheese comes from its a farm in wisconsin and i drive by it when i goto snowboard

[CommieDearest]

Is it the oberweiss one? haha

[Asker]

nah its called forage farm

[creativeusername101]

I've never seen free range cheese. how do you know the cows, goats, whatever other animal milk is taken from are being treated "humanely?

[Asker]

it should have an official stamp by a animal protection group like peta or usda

[creativeusername101]

you didn't answer my question. name some brands.

[creativeusername101]

also peta is not official. they're a bunch of quacks who happen to have a lot of influence with people who don't properly research on their own.

[Asker]

i know like two that im looking on the label is green vally organics and vally ford.. and fuck you PETA cares about animals and acheived more than you ever will or can, im a member bitch!

[creativeusername101]

I'm vegan sweet cheeks, stopped eating animal products before you were born. I have and still do a lot. peta gives out a lot of false information. anyway, do better research, and calm yourself. this anger you have is immature and unnecessary.

[rugrat]

In the long run, it doesn't matter. Cruelty to animals? They're all gonna die anyways. Food is food. Bacon is bacon. Mmmm, bacon.

[Asker]

but dont you want the animals to live a happy life insted of never seeing sunlight or even turn around

[rugrat]

I grew up on a farm hon. In the end, it doesn't matter. They're all slaughtered

[Asker]

so your saying you support animal crualty?

[rugrat]

I'm saying I support reality. The reality is that the fried chicken most people eat had its head cut off and was butchered. I've butchered animals before. There is NO NICE WAY TO DO IT

[Asker]

but life before butchering should be made natural and the cows now are shot with a air gun to the brain..

[rugrat]

You're a city boy, I'll give you that. think of it this way, just to piss you off a little more and the rest of you peta people, profit. You can handle more livestock with less resources than on free range. Morals vs money. Hmmmm?

[Asker]

what?

[rugrat]

Losses vs profit. The profit must be more than the costs. Free range costs are rather hefty and so most do not produce enough profit. Look at it from a business standpoint

[Asker]

I don't know what your talking about but. they dont produce as much for one.. the money per sqare foot is more to keep the animals comftorable and to make sure animals dont get sick or wander off and stuff. the non humane shit just gets thrown in baggies when they get a bad sickness and the cows are treated with antibiotics.

[rugrat]

So? When the cows back home would get a cut we had this magical thing we called "purple spray". We sprayed the cut with it and it was, guess what, purple. Would you prefer they let them die? Because, you know, that's just cruel

[Asker]

noo farms transport the cow to another facility and yes they treat it with antibiotics and after a while the cow might be alowed to go back to the farm

[Asker]

and bitch if you hate cows just say so intsted of talking about old days and how u tortured cows its 2014

[rugrat]

Nooo we treat the cows ourselves hon. It's too expensive to send them to a vet.

[rugrat]

BITCH? , OLD DAYS? Look sweetie, I don't know what shelter mommy and daddy kept you in your entire life, but WE STILL DO IT THIS WAY WHETHER YOU FUCKING AGREE WITH IT OR NOT. Pull your prissy little head out of your prissy ass and see reality

[Asker]

sry grandma I don't know what prissy means

[rugrat]

Are you serious? So you're as stupid as you are sheltered. Good to know

[Asker]

im actualy super smart bitch i bet you didn't do calculus in 10th grade. are you as old as you nursing home?

[rugrat]

Oh sweetie, I was correcting my calculus teacher in 10 grade, only then it was real calculus, not this revised 2+2=5 shit. And depends, has your mommy cleaned your diaper lately?

[Asker]

put your cheaters on for this one
f'x) = [4x^3(5(x - 7)^2 - 10(x-7)*x^4]/(25(x-7)^4)
find f'x bitch sum real 2+2=5 shit and they didn't do calc till 12th grade back then ya.. i called you on it

[Asker]

$$$$ i win $$$$

[rugrat]

I skipped ahead in math. I took 12 grade math and science as a 10 grader you immature overweight rodent posterior. F (x)=10x^3(x^2-21x+98)/25(x^2-14x+49)(x^2-14x+49) if you want I can expand it out. All of it without a calculator. BOOM

[Asker]

you looked that up and im not fat im a sponsored bodybuilder so BOOM!

[rugrat]

No I did it on a peice of paper, you know, the old fashion way. I'm not fat either. I'm on my school's wrestling team and could probably whop your puny punk ass

[rugrat]

Expanded version: 2x^5-42x^4+196x^3/5x^4-120x^3+490x^2-3430x+12005

[rugrat]

You just wish you could get a girl as hot as me

[Asker]

psh ya right my biceps are 16' and got a lat spread of 32' i could tear you in half lemi see a picture of you how old r u

[rugrat]

Don't get me wrong sugar, I'm not impressive to look at strength wise, but in a fight, I've destroyed guys that could kill you in a second.

[Asker]

cuz thier older and prob ina diff weight class but unless your over 250 you couldnt beat me ina fight but serioisly lemi see a pic of u..

[rugrat]

I don't do pictures and have none. I weigh 150 but I have more experience in fighting than you, I can pretty much guarantee you that.

[Asker]

150 jeez lay off the "hamburgers" you dont have any pics? hard to belive you dont have a fb

[rugrat]

First of all, I eat anything and everything. I just work out so much I burn it off. And no, I don't have a Facebook

[Asker]

dont seem very healthy i bet you crossfit to lol so you won't send a pic cuz you ug right

[rugrat]

No, I'm quite pretty. The only picture I have of myself is me in a dress and there's no fucking way you're getting that one you brat.

[Asker]

soooooo.. ur ugly ha i knew it what girl only has one picturevof themselves

[rugrat]

One who has a life and doesn't like taking pictures. Guess what, I only have one picture of my friends too. I guess that means I have no friends either huh?

[Asker]

yes youd be correct to say that. wats ur number?

[rugrat]

My phone number?

[Asker]

yes your cell phone number please

[rugrat]

No. Why would you need it?

[Asker]

So you won't give me your number?

[rugrat]

No. I won't give you my phone number

[Asker]

so your saying you dont have an aliby?

[rugrat]

Goodnight boy. Hopefully you shall mature and you face will be removed from your rectum.

[Asker]

u ain't got no aliby u ugly!

[rugrat]

Like I said, you'll be lucky if you ever get a girl as hot as me.

[Asker]

u prob ug 150lbs.. wrestles. only has one pic of herslef anddd eats anything she wants lol and iv dated an ametuer model bitch! whos 3 years older than me so Check and mate i win!!

[Asker]

and im going into the fitness modeling industry and il be drippin in bitchez, oh wait i already am

[rugrat]

Good for you. Hopefully soon you can move out of your parent's basement

[Asker]

i dont live in the basement (;

[rugrat]

Denies the basement, not the parents house.

[Asker]

i dont have a basement