Thank You, Trump Primary Voters, for Castrating the GOP...and Why I'll Probably Vote for Him, Anyway

[CheerGirl38139]

Back During the Primaries...

I kept saying (aloud and to myself) that my fellow Americans would wake up and see the light. The "Trump Train" wasn't something to jump aboard, it was rolling right at us! I just kept thinking, listen to all of those Bernie supporters...they "get it" that Hillary is a terrible choice. Of course, not being a "democratic socialist" (a term that gives me reflux anyway) - there's no way I can support him. He's just too far out there. Being from the south, I know too much about the Klintons to even consider them. Besides, BENGHAZI and the BULLSHIT lies by Hillary about American patriots being murdered was all I needed anyway.

So I kept hoping and praying that when the primaries got to my state, people would start to wake up that Trump had no substance to his rhetoric. How people voted for this guy with his BULLSHIT about bringing manufacturing jobs back, fixing the healthcare system, building a wall and getting Mexico to pay for it....where are the plans? Where are the details? All he does is say "believe me" ... "horrible"..."beautiful", blah blah blah.....BULLSHIT....

And yet, when they got to my state, I thought about voting for Bernie. Not because I'd vote for him in the general election, but because I thought he'd be easier for a real GOP nominee to beat than the heavily funded and polished Klinton machine. I couldn't make myself do it. And all I was left to choose from was Trump, Cruz, and Kasich. Sad, sad, sad. So basically, a lying ass thin skinned baboon, a guy no one wants to work with in the Senate, and a guy hardly anyone knows. Fuck.

Yet, I still held out hope. A contested convention maybe. Nope. Didn't happen.

So here we are, a choice between bad and worse...

Again, I'd like to thank you people that voted for, and supported Trump from the beginning. You've managed in one election year, to castrate the Republican party for probably a generation (or more). The silver lining may be that we finally form a legitimate third party that elects people at ALL levels of government. Something that I believe our Founding Fathers would whole-heartedly endorse.

However, in the 2016 general election, the other "parties" nominees don't stand a chance. While I'm something of a Libertarian, I'm more of a Constitutionalist. Regardless, Gary Johnson is an idiot, and Jill Stein is well...not even from this planet.

I am truly sad and embarrassed for my country. This makes me sick every day, yet I cannot stop myself from thinking about it. I think about the men in my family that gave their lives for this country, and the countless hundreds of thousands of men and women that have done the same. I just want to cry. It's obscene. It's disgusting.

At my wits end, I kept waiting for Trump to earn my vote...

Give me something Donald. Anything. Anything besides "I'm not Hillary". He can't. He won't. He fails.

So I think about it. I pray about it. Literally. I decide ok, the hell with it, I'm not going to vote for POTUS, I'll just vote in all of the other elections. I'm 21. This is my first general election. I'm not going to "not vote" at all. But my hands will be "clean" of this presidential circus.

Then comes last weekend's tape of "the Donald" and all of the talking heads running around shouting about how appalling it is. He's "condoning sexual assault". Oh muh gerd! Oh muh gerd!

Really? THAT'S what you're worried about? - Some bullshit braggadocios sexist rhetoric (in private) by a known ego-maniacal liar?

The same week, more stuff comes out about Klinton and her lying to the American public about what she says to Wall Street bankers in private vs what she says to the rest of us. It gets one-tenth of the attention that Trump's stupid comments made 11 years ago get - everywhere from here on G@G to CNN, to CBS. WTF people? Seriously......

We are seriously more worried about him saying "grab them by the pussy" than we are Hillary lying to us about some BULLSHIT YouTube video being responsible for the murders of Americans in #Benghazi? This literally makes me want to cry and puke simultaneously.

I am 100% sure about two things.

1. I WILL vote in the general election in November, and

2. I WILL NOT vote for Hillary.

That said, as much as I think Trump is an embarrassment, and not fit to be POTUS, he is less unfit than she is. I am now 98% convinced, that I will simply hold my nose and vote for "the lesser of two evils" - even though I told myself that's something I would not do.

If you need a reason to NOT vote for Hillary, visit this take written by my G@G uncle @OlderAndWiser:

https://www.girlsaskguys.com/trending-news/a29207-what-you-may-not-know-about-hillary-clinton-s-scandal-history

I hate it. I really, really do. And what I hate more, is the fact that out of 320 million people, these are the "best" two that we could find?

I'm venting. This sucks! I'm sad. I'm pissed. I'm pissed at those of you that voted for Trump from day one. You have basically buried the GOP for no telling how many years. The New York Times and the lock step main stream media are determined to ride this until the GOP loses control of the House and Senate, as well as the oval office.

They're now all scrambling around trying to save their own sorry asses. Thanks again to those of you that thought Trump was a good idea for America. Oh yeah...we're gonna be "great again". You just handed the White House back over to the Klintons (God I hope I'm wrong). Meanwhile, I can't sit back and do nothing, while Hillary gets to select the next 2, 3, maybe even 4 U.S. Supreme Court justices....not to mention the countless other federal judge seats that are for life. So, to the lesser of two evils I go. Hoping that Trump might be impeached (for something Klinton-like), Pence runs away, and Paul Ryan becomes POTUS as we all breathe a sigh of relief and work towards a do-over.

You are all welcome to leave comments, but I'm not up for arguing with anyone about this. Hardcore Hillary supporters are going to vote for her anyway, and hardcore Trump supporters are going to vote for him. I don't understand either of you, and I'm tried of trying.

This is just something I needed to get off of my chest. - Thank You!

#Election2016

[xHoneyxBeex]

I didn't vote in the primaries so I really have no right to complain about the GOP nominee. However, I do know that most people who like Trump like him because he's not part of the establishment. Some people have said that Trump isn't qualified because he's not a politician, but the fact that he's not a career politician is exactly why so many people have supported him.

Personally, I''m far more concerned with the things Hillary has actually DONE as opposed to the stupid shit that Trump says. Actions hold more weight than words. So, while Trump is certainly not the "best" person for the job, I plan on voting for the lesser of two evils.

[CheerGirl38139]

Exactly what I've resigned to do as well

[OlderAndWiser]

Your "G@G uncle!" I am very flattered by the title. :)

[OlderAndWiser]

Uncle OlderAndWiser thanks you for MHO!

[RainbowFanGirl]

Dammit I am too young to vote smh

[JRICHARDS1996]

It is a great irony and misfortune that conservatism in this country would be slaughtered precisely by those whom are the most conservative. In other words, the GOP committed suicide, and the republic is done for. No seriously -- I wholeheartedly believe that it is done for. In this past decade alone, "progressivism" has gained traction on a level unparalleled in history. Something was going to give. And just when we needed a conservative victory most, we forfeited the game by nominating a clown like Donald Trump who is bound to lose. Granted, he cannot be entirely blamed. As you alluded to, the media is insanely biased in the liberal direction. People are calling for Trump's head on a platter all because of some stupid shit he said a decade ago yet Hillary has had MULTIPLE scandals on the level of Watergate that SHOULD have got her disqualified, if not imprisoned, and yet the media does not even bat an eye. Just what the fuck does it take in this country to bring the Democrats down?

We lost, and I share your sentiments. It was a good, long run, but conservatism as we know it is done for. We are definitively on the path toward becoming like Western Europe. Hillary will appoint a liberal justice to replace Scalia, and thus the conservative majority on the Supreme Court will be lost. The 2nd Amendment will inevitably be butchered, if not overturned, due process and the Constitution itself will be swept under the rug in the name of "tolerance." More political correctness, legislation by emotion opposed to reason, and failed social wellness programs.

This is the reality I literally had nightmares about, and it is actually here. I feel like I do not even want to be alive anymore, because the nation is changing. We are becoming another "progressive" liberal dump. No, we HAVE become one. Hillary is just the nail in the coffin.

What hurts most is, as you stated, that we did this to ourselves. The GOP committed suicide. Conservatives committed suicide by nominating Trump. The Republican Party is definitively done for and we will probably never see another conservative victory in our life time. Perhaps the one GOOD thing to come out of this whole fiasco is that the Democratic Party is also splintering. It is only about a generation behind the GOP. It too shall die very soon, and I have no doubt in my mind that we will see a third party take power within our lifetimes.

Like you, I am still voting for Trump, but I know it is futile. We lost. Conservatism lost.

[vishna]

Trump is the worst choice for president, to me, because he is only doing this for himself, he's a giant child, worst, he's a bully with serious issues. He needs an intervention or freedom to be the asshole he is without the responsibility and capability to hurt millions of Americans. Hillary Clinton was not my first choice, but I think she has a heart (people say she's crooked, the phrase makes me gag "crooked Hillary" I roll my eyes, it's played out by now) Do I think she's perfect? No. But I see the heart in her, and I think she's redeemable and that she would try to be a better person than who she was before. Trump wouldn't, he never would, he was a spoiled rich brat, he's never known sacrifice, and he doesn't give 2 craps about anyone and he never will. Besides that, he has 0 experience in politics, proposes economic plans (the thing he's supposed to be good at) that most economists agree would hurt the middle class and only benefit the wealthy, and had already rubbed some of our allies the wrong way. Also, he got where he was by playing on fear and hate, given that momentum he would help to further damage relations among communities and divide this country. The Klan recently left goody bags at my university campus, and

[vishna]

students were cursed with racial slurs. I don't see anything getting better with Donald Trump (the man who played on the "Mexicans are criminals" and other stereotypes) to get where he is.

[CheerGirl38139]

I respect your views. Obviously racism is a big issue.

But her issues are deeper and more patently evil than you're willing to acknowledge.

Anyway, we won't ever agree I'm sure. No point in beating it to death.

[vishna]

I dislike Trump and his sentiments, his kind, more than I dislike Hillary and the accusations made against her. If I voted for him, it'd be shooting myself in the foot as a woman, person of color, and in my opinion, decent human being. You have priorities, so do I.

[CheerGirl38139]

Yeah I get it. You and @BellePepper both have valid points and concerns that I fully understand and agree with.

What you're both missing is that Hillary is no champion of women's rights, and she's done much more than be "accused" of some things. The Clinton's are lifelong influence peddlers and criminals.

Again, trump is a price of shit. I don't "support" him. I wouldn't let either of them in my front door.

But to me, the moral high ground, is taking a stand against the damage she can do to our country, long after her 4 years... than the circus that Trump might be in his. In fact, I figure he could be successfully impeached, probably for some things similar to what Bill Clinton has gotten away with.

I have a lot more specific hprrific things I could say about Hillary other than just Beghazi and Wall St.

But neither of you will move your position. Which is why I said there's no point arguing. She will probably win anywatyour I think it's too late to stop her. ✌

[Diamonddogz74]

The core of what you're saying is all stuff that I feel as a Bernie supporter. It's almost like your experience is the inverse (not the opposite) of mine and what you've written is, for the most part, very well stated and thought out. I want to make the friendly suggestion that you not focus too much on Benghazi. There's not a lot to go on there if you look at it closely. There are plenty of other reasons to not like the Clintons but the more one relies on the outlier, Brietbart-y issues the less credibility one will have. And its a shame because there are SO MANY legitimate reasons to not like them.

I'd also advise against spelling their names with a K. I get what you're trying to do but, again, it just erodes the credibility of your otherwise good points.

Vote how you want. Obviously you aren't voting for Clinton and I'm not here to ask you to. But if everyone who was upset with the choice they were given wrote in the choice they wanted or voted third party there's a good chance that we could all send a powerful message that we aren't going to accept this bullshit anymore. Both sides have rigged the system so well that they have made it feel as though we don't have a choice when the choice can be to simply point out that these two parties do not own our democratic process. Not yet, at least. They have simply co-opted it while we weren't looking.

[CheerGirl38139]

I hear you. I would not vote for her had Benghazi never happened. It's just a trigger point for me for personal reasons, but it's not a singular reason, not even close. I can see Arkansas across the river from my home town. I have friends and extended family over there, and I am well versed in Clinton corruption.

Like I said, I believe that they are both unfit to serve, but I decided that I needed to cast an anti-klinton vote. Period. That's it.

[AleDeEurope]

Clinton is going to win... it was already decided when she decided to run for president. It doesn't really matter who the candidate for the GOP is, even if it was a man exactly like Reagan, Hillary is going to win either way, cause she controls everything. The Clinton Foundation controls the mainstream media, and she was able to rigged the primaries, so she can do it again in November. There's emails where it clearly says they're manipulating the people.

I disagree with you when you say voting for Trump has killed the GOP, I actually think the fact that Trump was is up there, has helped Americans stand up, open their eyes, and stand up against the Clintons, and well, the Left in general. He won't win, but he basically opened a can of worms for the Left.
People know of their corruption and bullshit, there is more and more shit pouring out, and people are getting more and more angry about that. I know the media is taking advantage of Trump's crap, to push the GOP down, but I believe the people aren't gonna take this for too long. It may not happen in this elections, but for sure during the following years... especially when Hillary fucks up as president.

[CheerGirl38139]

You made some good points. I still don't fully agree overall, but I get where you're coming from.

[Other_Tommy_Wiseau]

Or... You can vote for me and feel better 😬

Sorry, bruh, but I gotta do it off of principle
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Not because you don't have legit points, but because people have this idea that people's minds are malleable. No matter what you say, I say, any dipshit Down's syndrome Hillary supporters say or anything dick weed inbred trump supporters say, 95% of people's opinions aren't changing. Hillary could rape a chimp and people would find excuses. People would blame her for it raining. People will find a way to defend trump after murdering puppies and blame him for a hangnail... So whenever I see these opinions, I just tell people they're wasting their breath and energy and their opinions don't actually matter... Just an explain atom for the morons who think I'm trolling for the fun of it... Actually I am, but there is some method to my madness 😬

[CheerGirl38139]

No worries mate 🙋

[Other_Tommy_Wiseau]

On the bright side, when whichever cancerous shitbag wins and the country goes to shit, we can all collectively make fun of that group of supporters... Nothing makes me happier than stupid people being made fun of for their own stupidity 😈😈😈

[Bandit74]

I've never been that into politics. The more I think about it the less I care. First I would have to spend time and energy researching all the issues to get an understanding of what I think may be best for the country when there really isn't a clear right answer. Then I would have to pick the candidate who -portrays- themselves as being more closely aligned with what I think would be best for the country. That is with no real guarantee that they genuinely intend or are even capable of doing what they claimed they would. Furthermore, my one vote technically has no real impact on the election unless there is a tie locally. Like I could drop dead on the way to the ballot and it probably changes nothing. Then even if the person I want wins, they are limited in power based on who is in the senate and that is determined by elections in other states that I had no say in. Then to top it off I would have to deal with obnoxious assholes from the opposite party who will talk down to and attack me just because I support a different canidate =.=

So I just can't bring myself to really give a shit. Id rather just sit back and watch without getting involved.

I guessif I was forced to pick based on gut instinct I -may- pick Hillary just because she doesn't sound like she's retarded. I don't really believe Hillary cares that much about helping women or the middle class, she is just MUCH better at pretending that she does. She is undeniably miles ahead of Trump in the intelligence department. He doesn't really answer questions, he just kinda talks in circles and insults people. I would also be embarrassed to hear the leader of my country use the word "bigly" when adressing the nation. 🙈

[CheerGirl38139]

I can relate to those general sentiments

[JRICHARDS1996]

Do not underestimate Trump. Like Hillary, the man is also an actor and I am almost certain that this clown persona is also an act. Surprisingly he is known to have an above average IQ and be extremely intelligent according to those who knew him before the election. My thoughts are that he is just telling the people what they want to hear so that he will win.

[Bandit74]

@JRICHARDS1996
Well if thats his plan, it seems like Hillary is a lot better at telling people what they want to hear.

[JRICHARDS1996]

That, and she also has the media on her side. If anyone is still going to deny the liberal bias in the media after this election, then I am not sure what to tell them. As it is, I have yet to see one single Trump ad even though I have been bombarded by dozens of Hillary ones. No celebrity has endorsed Trump yet countless have jumped on the Hillary bandwagon. Same with magazines, academia, etc. The very fact that Trump is being demonized for stupid locker room talk from a decade ago when Hillary has had multiple Watergate level scandals this year alone, and the media does nothing.

[goaded]

@JRICHARDS1996 "I have yet to see one single Trump ad even though I have been bombarded by dozens of Hillary ones"

Adverts are paid for by the campaigns, he just doesn't have the money behind him.

He started out with a huge advantage in "Earned" (free) media.
www.nytimes.com/.../...dvantage-in-free-media.html

[Soteris]

For as much as you do not want to vote for Hillary I think she is the only one of the two that is even capable of performing the duties that is required of a President. I mean I hate her as much as the next person but she is a capable politician. Her being in charge will just continue the proud tradition of keeping America afloat with the bare minimum of life support while enriching yourself and your friends.

Electing Trump on the other hand is not the best of ideas. The last time you elected someone incompetent you invaded the wrong country for the wrong reasons and you are still not done cleaning it up. Considering the political climate in the world today its not a very smart idea to elect another George Bush with anger management issues and mental disorders.

Basically putting your pride and emotion aside, one of the candidates is going to most likely cause serious harm to both your relations with your allies and the country overall. The fact that you even consider it makes me sad.

[CheerGirl38139]

Sorry you feel that way man but I'm glad you can't vote. 🙋

[CheerGirl38139]

Apparently you don't understand that an American president has to seek the approval of Congress to go to war.

Regardless of your opinion of GWB, Congress authorized that action, and they could have stopped it.

This is not a monarchy. One man or woman can't do that.

You can blah blah blah all you want from there. But that's all I have to say to a European about it.

[Soteris]

^_~ well I dont have that moral dilemma so perhaps I am the lucky one? That said at this point I dont think its a contest anymore. Recent polls gives a massive 10 point lead to Hillary Clinton and Trump has blown his chances at recovering again.

[CheerGirl38139]

Sad yet probably true

[JRICHARDS1996]

On the contrary, Democrats have been behind every single war of the 20th century. Republicans have not started a war since the Spanish-American one of 1898. Even top ranking Democrats including Hillary supported Iraq, and Afghanistan came from an anti-terrorism bill that had bipartisan support.

Hillary would be more likely to get us involved in pointless wars than Trump would. Her foreign policy is extremely hawkish and would start another Cold War with Russia. Trump however just may surprise us. Hillary is suicide but he is at least a gamble.

[CheerGirl38139]

@JRICHARDS1996 I was going too point out to above European that Klinton was a US Senator when the Senate VOTED TO APPROVE going to war in Iraq and Afghanistan... but he doesn't understand how our system of government works, nor does it matter that he doesn't. :)

[Soteris]

@JRICHARDS1996 Yes because lets just forget that George Bush (Who is a Republican since I feel that I need to clarify this to you) started "the war on terror" and did it by ignoring the facts at hand which resulted in him invading the wrong country for the wrong reasons.

Also when was the last time a Republican aside from Ron Paul was AGAINST a war? For all those Democrats who were in favor of war they are also the only meaningful resistance against them as well.

[JRICHARDS1996]

Do you have any idea what you are talking about? The War on Terror was not an actual war in itself but an approach toward battling terrorism not only militarily, but socially, economically, diplomatically, and through intelligence and NSA. It only caused the two aforementioned wars, both of which again had Democratic support. The propaganda of both sides is irrelevant. It does not matter if Republicans appear as greater warmongers to you than Democrats. The FACTS are that they have not been behind a single war since 1898 with Spain. Democrats were behind every single conflict of the 20th century and also supported Iraq and Afghanistan. Now tell me, who are the true warmongers?

[Soteris]

@JRICHARDS1996 "The war on terror" Includes the invasion of Afghanistan, Iraq and a covert invasion of Syria not to mention the whole ISIS debacle. This is also separate from all the military actions and covert operations that were taken. There are few USA Presidents that have started more wars and conflicts then George w Bush.

Also the only ones against these wars that turned out to be the worst idea imaginable were liberal democrats. Republicans are the ones who are always the ones pushing the agenda of war, talking about supporting the troops, refusing to cut military spending and advocating for military actions against everyone they can get away with.

While Democrats go along with it and in some cases speak out about it. They are by no means comparable.

Now tell me which wars Bernie Sanders have supported?

[CheerGirl38139]

Dude... your perception is way off. The fact that you even think that one person (a POTUS) alone, shows your ignorance.

Your just another dude with a keyboard that jumped on the Bush bashing badwagon. Have any original thoughts of your own? I doubt it.

[Soteris]

Oh please. The president has a lot of power even putting aside the emergency powers he can invoke but in Foreign Affairs he is the one primarily responsible. That said the presidents ability to wage war was somewhat restrained after the Vietnam War to need congressional approval. That said the President can still send troops anywhere he wants he just have to tell Congress and get 60 days to do whatever he wants.

That said Congress has never been against a good round of warfare.

So what do you think? If the President has the power to attack anyone in 60 days before needing approval. Do you think the nation being attacked will just brace themselves and wait until he is restrained or will it trigger a war?

[CheerGirl38139]

You think Bush just pulled those countries off of his "to do" list because that's who he "wanted to invade" and Congress (including Kilnton) just went "oh sure. Yeah. Let's do that". 😂😂

I go back to my original statement. You don't have a clue, and I thank God you can't vote.

On the other hand, this is probably all moot, because that hideous criminal is going to be elected anyway. 🙋

[Soteris]

Well its not like George Bush invaded Iraq out of the blue. He had tried to justify a war against Saddam Hussein for a year already with the UN etc.. When 9/11 happened it was just a convenient excuse to pull the trigger when 70% of the people wanted bloodshed on SOMETHING.

You have to understand that there are a lot of reasons why war is so important for politicians and USA as a whole. Its part of what keeps the whole system turning in a manner of speaking. It is even to the point that when they are not in a war they come under immense political pressure to start one not to mention the population becomes rowdy.

Yeah Trump has lost. He recently pulled out of Virginia (ironic I know) because he ran out of finances and now he does not have a feasible way to win aside from Hillary fucking things up even harder then he already has.

[CheerGirl38139]

Was GW Bush a "great" POTUS? Nah. Neither was Obama.

But Im just thankful that on 9/11 there was no president algore in the white house. He would have been sucking bin laden's dick.

Anyway. Enough of that. Stay over there in the E. U. They need your socialist mindset. :)

[Soteris]

But.. Bin Laden was not behind 9/11.. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Was. You also invaded the wrong nation, one which barely had any terrorism connections at all and the end result is that now there are more terrorists then you can shake a stick at.

George Bush (and to a lesser extent Obama) Has done more for terrorism then any other person on earth. They are the reason they are accepted by civilians, given insane amounts of resources and fiances and why they can find an inexhaustible supply of recruits. They used to be basically just a boys club compared to now.

Are you sure you actually understand what you are talking about?

[CheerGirl38139]

I'm quite positive I know TEN TRUCK LOADS MORE about what I'm talking about than you do sir.

And since I'm now bordering on "arguing" which I clearly stated I was NOT up for. I bid you farewell. And again, I'm thankful that you're not an American citizen. :)

[CheerGirl38139]

ohh... and I never said that "we invaded the right nation" - I said that you can't blame it all on Bush.

[Soteris]

*shrugs* First time I have been told someone knows more then me when I have to correct them on everything they say because they are factually wrong.

[CheerGirl38139]

You're so full of crap bruh. Please stop posting on this Take.

[Soteris]

Well if you were a normal and sane human being we would not be having this conversation. I think you should take part of the responsibility for being so clueless.

[CheerGirl38139]

Dude really? That's what you got? YOUR opinion is "fact" and my perception is "insane". Even though I am American, and I AM well versed in government and politics. OK, adios man. I don't speak fucktard.

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[BellePepper]

How can you vote for him? Like how can you look at yourself and say that you support a man who raped his wife, regularly sexualizes his daughter, thinks women who seek abortions should be punished, has sexually assaulted women, and thinks women over 35 are worthless?

Like are you okay with those things happening to you? Are you okay with those things happening to other women? Because that is what your vote says to other women.

And that's just women! We're not even talking about minimum wage workers, LGBTQ people, people of color, or basically anyone who actually has to think about what they spend.

I've always thought of you as a kind and considerate person who thinks about other people and the general good of your communities. How does that person reconcile with a candidate who cares about NONE of those things?

[CheerGirl38139]

Dude if you believer what yoire saying, you need to really look at her life long criminal history, including how she treated the women that her own cheating ass husband abused.

Not to mention the American service personel she's responsible for sacrificing and then lying about it. She's a hideous monster that care for no one, including other women.

I have much respect for you, but we are on different sides on this. No sense trying to discuss it further. I'm thinking a out the future for my hypothetical children

[CheerGirl38139]

To be clear, I think Trump is a big piece of shit. I just think Klinton is a bigger one.

And I think he can do less damage to our country in 4 years than she certainly would. Most of his crazy ass bullshit will never make it through Congress.

I "support" neither of them. Hence the gist of the entire take, and the hold your nose image at the end. ✌

[BellePepper]

You're upset at Hillary for Behghazi but she's not the only one who made those decisions. There were other people involved with that process and I don't think any one of them can be held solely responsible other than the murderers.

And as upsetting as that is we need to think about the things Donald Trump has said. Things like "they should be shot out of the water" and then insisting that no wars start because of boats being shot. Both world wars and the Spanish-American War started when American ships were shot!

And this is just one example. How can we trust someone so ignorant and so ready to put our soldiers at risk with their lives?

I'm not saying that Hillary is perfect or without flaws but she's not the one screaming about international conspiracies, claiming people have sex tapes, or saying you and I are worthless because of our gender.

[NeutralMale]

Lol @BellePepper maybe you shouldn't believe all of the shit you hear in the news about Trump. Hillary is by far a disgusting human being. It makes me sick that she can stand there and smile when she is responsible for millions of people dying in the middle east.

[CheerGirl38139]

@NeutralMale Let it go man. This take is a month old. The election is today. It's over.

[NeutralMale]

I know, i just want her to know what she did by voting for her if the evil shit wins and does fuck all for anyone.

[BellePepper]

@NeutralMale Says the child who likes to try to pick fights with women when they don't agree to every little thing he says.

Walk on little boy.

[inceptin951]

"Give me something Donald. Anything. Anything besides "I'm not Hillary". He can't. He won't. He fails."

Are you joking? So you're saying his plan to deport illegal immigrants, block immigration from terrorist-hotspots, get rid of Obamacare and allow health insurance companies to compete nationally thereby lowering the cost of healthcare, withdrawing foreign aid to countries that are our enemies, require our "allies" that we spend billions protecting militarily to reimburse us, etc. You're really saying that is "nothing"? Have you been paying attention at all or just watching CNN this whole time?

[CheerGirl38139]

You're not very bright (or you didn't read the entire take) if you think I get my news from main stream leftist media bro.

Trump HAS NO PLAN.

It's all BULLSHIT rhetoric.

The shit that he *claims* to want to do, won't happen. He can't get any of that stuff through Congress.

And he has no detailed plans for 99% of the shit he says. Wake up man. You're the EXACT type of person I was referring to that has helped castrate the GOP.

I'll give you one more comment, and then we are done here.

[inceptin951]

"Trump HAS NO PLAN. It's all BULLSHIT rhetoric. "

And how do you know that? Do you know him personally? Does he have a political record you can analyze? No. So stop acting like you know his intent.

"The shit that he *claims* to want to do, won't happen. He can't get any of that stuff through Congress. "

Actually under the Obama administration we have already deported 500,000 immigrants and the President has powers over foreign policy without the consent of Congress. Educate yourself and take a basic American Government class if you want to know how much power the President has over foreign policy. And don't "give me one more comment" as if you are some smart person talking down to someone else. Based off of what you said, you sound like a high school drop out because you know nothing about politics or how the government works. Everything you said is based off of emotions period. You should spend less time on Tumblr and more time researching how politics works.

[CheerGirl38139]

Bro... you are SOOOOOO far off base you have no clue what you're talking about. You've obviously never read anything else I've ever posted here. I feel bad for you, I really do.

But thanks for letting me vent to you and thanks again for ruining the GOP for the next generation. Maybe that will give us the legit third party that we really need.

I'm a college senior, that is VERY well versed in US government and politics. The reason I said "one more comment" is not because I'm talking down to you, it's because I'm not going to argue with a hardcore trump supporter. I don't speak fucktard.

As stated above, I will likely hold my nose and vote for him anyway, just because I can't sit back and not vote, while watching yet another Klinton sell out my country.

Adios. Good luck in life bro. :)

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[SarahsSummer]

I'm with you 100% but will add one thing and probably my only reason for voting Trump over no vote.
This president will have a far greater role than his or her 4 years in office. A nominee to the part of our govt that is for life. The Supreme Court.

[CheerGirl38139]

😂😂 you didn't read the whole take.

That's my main reason also. 🙋

[SarahsSummer]

Omg. I'm so sorry. I missed that last parapraph. My neighbor came to my front door and when I got back to my phone it was on the comments part. My bad. We're on the same page and all the same parapraphs now!
Xo

[mike5150]

Both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton have proved they are horrible candidates and both parties should be ashamed, that this is what it has come down to.

With that said, I believe the only way you can vote in this election is for what direction you want this country to go in over the next 20 or so years. The Supreme Court justices appointed by either Trump or Hillary will be in place long after they are gone. But for the next couple generations we have to think about this carefully. We can choose are president based on who lies the least or who told the biggest lie. But we could argue that till the end of time. The most sensible thing to do is to answer this question. Do you support Conservative or Liberal values? That is what is at stake with the Supreme Court seat open.

[CheerGirl38139]

There's almost surely going to be more than just one seat open in the next 4 years.

[mike5150]

I agree and these seats effect the country as I said long after Trump or Hillary's terms will end. Which is why I said, if your Liberal than vote for Hillary with no shame and if your Conservative vote for Trump with no shame because the Supreme Court and direction of this country is at stake.

[CheerGirl38139]

Pretty much exactly what I've resigned myself to do and they only reason why. ✌

[MyExperience]

It really sucks that these are our only choices. It REALLY sucks! I'll reluctantly be voting Trump mostly for the Supreme Court aspect and secondarily to shake up the talking head lifelong politicians that never get anything done for us anyway.

[CheerGirl38139]

that's pretty much it in a nut shell.

[Jersey2]

The GOP must change or we need a third if not a fourth party as the Dems are just as bad.

We want and need a Washington outsider who is not bought by Wall Street, Big Pharma and the rest. They are trying to destroy him because he will change things for the better for most Americans while tearing up the Washington elite. That is Trump!

[CheerGirl38139]

Maybe but there were other more qualified outsiders that would could have (and failed to) nominated.

He's a piece of shit. I just think he will do less damage in 4 years than she will.

[Jersey2]

The other candidates were rejected because they had no backbone. We need a strong person who can stand up to all the BS that Washington insiders and Wall Street throw his way.

[CheerGirl38139]

So you were Trump train from the word go

[Jersey2]

Yep, way back when there were 17 standing on stage and even long before that.

[Jersey2]

August of 2015 to be exact.

[CheerGirl38139]

That's what I thought. Thanks.

[openthedoors]

Good take totally agree with you about everything. Wish we had Carson so he could roast Hillary tho tbh in my opinion I liked Trump more then most candidates (besides Carson and Cruz and Rubio) initially. But ya never vote for bitch clinton.

[0112358]

I'm not American. If I was I'd be part of the moderate establishment R who were hoping for a Jeb or maybe even Rubio if he tacked to the middle and expanded the voter base.

I think the Clintons are sleaze bags but competent enough. I'd be tempted to go Hillary with Republicans down the rest of the card. I can understand the aversion though.

[CheerGirl38139]

I get it. Like I said, I considered skipping POTUS and voting the rest of the ballot. But I can't sit back and just watch her win (which she probably will) without me trying. :(

[SvetlanaSavachenko]

As the election approaches, I hear all kind of killary advertisements on the radio daily. I have yet to hear one Trump advertisement. This causes me distress as for quite awhile I have felt that Trump who's been a long time registered democrap is now the Republican candidate. My personal opinion is he's a shill candidate to ensure killary becomes the first dictator of America. I've felt this way for several months now.

Am I wrong? I sure hope so!

[JRICHARDS1996]

@Waffle77

[JRICHARDS1996]

You are actually correct, and the paper trail proves it.

[RasmusAiken]

Thanks for the Take. You have resonated with my sentiments precisely.

[CheerGirl38139]

ahh... well a few people seem to get where I'm coming from anyway.

[Library]

Either don't vote or vote for a third party candidate. You DON'T have to vote for Trump, that will make things worse.

[CheerGirl38139]

That's what I thought for a while, but that's not really true.

Hillary would be exponentially worse (not even necessarily in the next for years) - for the future of our country than anyone that was running at the start of the primary season, even Trump... who is a colossal douche.

[JRICHARDS1996]

In other words, Trump is at least a gamble but Hillary is suicide. On top of that, I know for certain that she will cause another Cold War with Russia over Syria because of her extremely hawkish foreign policy.

[Paris13]

You are Most Welcome, @CheerGirl38139 and Don't let anyone on Here, dear, Be... DISRESPECTFUL.
Good luck and Great question. xxoo

[Paris13]

*My Take. xx

[Paris13]

Thank you for the Like, @CheerGirl38139 xx