Women actually have rights. They are free to leave their partners if things go wrong, as are men. Men also aren't allowed to physically abuse their partners if they do something that they don't like. They're also more likely to leave their wife, rather than try to turn her into something that she's not through force. There's also much less societal pressure to get and stay married.
When both people in a relationship have rights, the chance of them splitting up will always be higher. When only one person has rights, that person can just abuse the one without rights into becoming whatever they want them to be, and the one without rights can't really do anything about it. Divorce also tends to be less taboo when both people have rights.
I don't know about non-Western countries today, but in the United States and Europe, before women had rights, it wasn't uncommon for a man to kill off his wife when he wanted another. Technically it was illegal, but it was never really investigated, even though everyone knew.
I would much prefer to live in a country with a high divorce rate, than to live in a country where a woman could be killed off when her husband gets sick of her.
I think you been fed too much propaganda from Fox news and Westrn university professors. While some bad apples do exit in every nation. Some bad cultures have same attitudes to women too. For example United states has more rape, more incest and child molestation then any other modern country. Yet u barely see such things in places like China. 3 times U. S size. So excuse me with the fake news. That westerns have choice when they get paid less then men in every job.
I'm not saying anything about the pay gap. I could make the case that women having decent wages gives them more freedom to live without a husband. But that's not what I said in the above comment. I'm saying that when women are legally treated as property, they don't have the right to seek a divorce. Women tend to have more legal rights, at least to jobs and divorce, in Western countries.
I'm well aware that rape culture is a problem in the United States. That doesn't change the fact that women are able to financially support themselves like they never were before, even if there is still a pay gap, and that divorce is far less stigmatized than it used to be.
Sweetie get off your pedestal. You're suggesting all women who get divorces are some sort of victims. Thre reality is that men are trapped into marriage and we suffer the consequences MUCH worse than women do. Don't turn this into feminism, it literally has nothing to do with it. I personally know 4 successful men who were manipulated into marraige and fatherhood/child support by women who simply want to sit on their asses for 20 years collecting child support and alimony.
@ronaldo75 I'm not saying that they're victims. I'm saying that they weren't happy in their relationship, so they left. They didn't have the right to do that before. All they could do was make the best out of a bad situation.
I also brought up the fact that domestic violence was once legal. When women didn't have the right to get a divorce, and they weren't happy in the relationship, the best case scenario is that they try to make their husband happy, and hopefully he's nice in return. He's usually not happy in the relationship either. But he's the one with the finances, who's physically stronger, and who's testimony was accepted in court. He was the one in power. Worst case scenario, men were legally allowed to beat their wives, and there was nothing that the woman could do about it.
So no. They're not victims. They're just not happy in their relationship. The fact that domestic violence occurs less is a part of the same chain of events that led to divorce becoming more common, and the main driving factor in that chain of events is that women have autonomy.
@ronaldo75 They agreed to get married. I don't agree with the way that child support payments are negotiated, but the courts decide based on what they think is best for the child.
If you want to change the result, start by changing the idea that women are inherently better parents than men. Changing preconceptions about gender is one of the many things that feminists advocate for. What are you doing to help?
@ronaldo75 Okay... I hate 3rd wave feminism as much as the next guy, but that condescending "Sweetie" you throw in at the start of your post is fucking disgusting dude. It immediately shuts down any opportunity for dialogue and undercuts your points, no matter what value they have on their own.
I think you make reasonable points regarding marriage in the west, but it isn't a pissing match, and we aren't talking about the west, we're talking about the third world here. She's definitely making sense. The third world actually needs feminism, to stop things like genital mutilation and spousal murder. And yeah, that is a real, documented phenomenon, people killing their wives in the third world because it's easier than getting a divorce. It's pretty easy to get a woman stoned (and not in the good way) by accusing her of sleeping around in some parts of the world.
I'm not responsible for your actions, but I'm ashamed of you on behalf of our whole gender after that, and I'm pissed off you made me feel compelled to type this, because this is the white-knightiest thing I've ever written. I usually tell off people who write that shit, but that's how far in the wrong you are. You're part of the problem, you're making dudes look bad, and you're lending legitimacy to the more cringy feminist screed points. You need to shut the fuck up and let other people handle these discussions, or they're never gonna go away.
I just want to chime in here and say that I don't understand divorce either. If you're going to get married, why divorce them? ! Don't you LOVE the other person through better or for worse, for richer and poorer through sickness and in health? !
I agree with the comment about how it's MUCH easier (and I guess became more popular for some reason) to get divorced easily nowadays so even if it's not a big deal they get divorced!
My parents have been married for 43 going on 44 years this December. If they can make it, why not other couples? ! I know this is a blanket statement though as every couple is different every couple situation and everything but By Golly stop! ...
People marry for green cards, for money, etc. so same thing with divorce! It's a free country and you are allowed to divorce for bad breath or got fact, etc!
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"I don't know about non-Western countries today, but in the United States and Europe, before women had rights, it wasn't uncommon for a man to kill off his wife when he wanted another. Technically it was illegal, but it was never really investigated, even though everyone knew."
Well men shouldn't marry women with rights then.
Sounds like a pain in the ass.
@ThisGuyDucks Oh it's worse than that. Pain is temporary. Every dollar you've lost to divorce rape is permanent and it all could've easily been prevented. Marriage is for fools.
en.wikipedia.org/.../List_of_most_expensive_divorces
The bottom 9 are countries, where divorce is practically not allowed and heavily taboo.
The top 9 are countries, where you can divorce and still live happy ever after.
What proof do u have?
Except FOX NEWS.
I wonder how getting divorced can make someone happy.
If u were abused or in toxic circumstances its actually recommended u leave divorce before someone commits illegal act like adultery.
@asker I don't know about other countrys but here in the u. s. a. adultery while immoral is not a crime. And can not be prosecuted as such but does hold moral balist for divorce
It's a combination of factors, most of which have been touched on already. But I think one of the biggest reasons here in the US is that there is a huge incentive for women to divorce, both financial and in terms of custody outcomes. It's no secret that men get fucked hard in divorce court here, and the other side of that equation is that women tend to come out of divorce court in a very attractive position. That's why roughly 85% of divorces in the US are instigated by women.
I also agree with QA about the fact that morals were much stronger decades ago here in the US. People seem to be much more selfish today.
Thank you for MHO.
1. Not everything is about money even if society will force you to think that way.
2. Aren't (as studies have shown) children where the mother and father live together fare better than single family homes? !
3. What if the father is a no income or low income bum? ! So OF COURSE they are going to side with the mother in that case!
4. Child support is for the child not the mother but yes since it's the mother who usually has the custody then the money goes to her... for a time being until the child turns 18 or 21!
@SueAnon84
1. It's not always about money, but let's be honest, it often is about money.
2. Yes, of course, and women and the courts gave that the consideration it deserves there would be far less divorce.
3. Yes, that is one scenario of many, but usually not the case.
4. Child support SHOULD be for children, but studies show it is very often used by mothers for other things.
... and *IF women and the courts gave that the consideration it deserves...
Because there is so many reasons in their culture that prevent women from switching husband. The western world has removed most of these with equality so now both side can easily initiate a divorce , that on its own double the odds.
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Longevity of the marriage does not always mean a happy marriage. My parents got along but I've seen some couples who stayed married who were clearly miserable. I mean you can make almost any marriage work if you mean you don't divorce but in the countries with lower divorce rates it probably doesn't take into account the number of couples who separate for life or who have side people outside of the marriage.
It has nothing to do with "morals" or "values" as some ignorant people call them. In the past religion played a huge role in all Western societies. However, religion is an instrument of control - an institution that wants to indoctrinate you in a certain way so that you would behave as the religious authorities want you to behave. Religion must never be seen as a synonym to belief.
So in the past primarily Catholic, Anglican and Protestant movements of Christianity played a huge role in most people's lives in the West. In traditional Christian societies women were barely seen as something more than breeding factories. They had very few rights or value. Men were deemed to be superior to women and the Bible was often used to justify such claims. You can see similar patterns in the Muslim world where the value and freedom of women is much lower than that of men.
Because marriage was usually done in a church, it was extremely hard to get a divorce from the religious authorities. There was a strong social stigma related to divorce, but the divorced or even widowed women bore the biggest burden. If a man was not married (single, divorced, widower), people would often say he is a poor soul, he cannot find a good woman to take care of him, and collectively try to find him a new wife. If a woman was divorced or widowed, people would usually say it was her fault and blame her for staying single again - she would almost be forced to remarry or pressured to join a convent by the society at the time. Being a single woman was a huge shame.
After the Cultural Revolution in 1960s, the entire society managed to get rid of the huge influence of Christianity on their lives. Women started getting equal rights and in many Western nations, they were allowed to go to Universities, do politics - decide for themselves. Imagine, all of this started happening less than 60 years ago.
Nowadays women can decide whether to marry or not, just as men are. We can equally divorce each other. We can choose to forgo marriage all together because marriage on its own is not the indicator of mutual love, respect and support for each other. In reality, I feel that the Western societies are the healthiest ones as they do not rely on being forced to do something they may not feel happy doing. They can choose and choice is all that matters.
I think some of these numbers come from a smaller stigma and easier methods for divorce. Although, one of the big factors that motivate these noticeably higher percentages is the way divorces are counted. Divorces after a short period and divorces from individuals who've previously been divorced (and are far more likely to divorce again) are counted alongside divorces from more typical marriages. A more appropriate figure would be the percentage of people who've had a divorce from long-term marriages (more than 5 years). Not having specific figures can skew results and the theories gathered from them. As I said, prior divorcees are more likely to divorce again, 60% for second marriages and 73% for third. Say there are four married men, but one gets a divorce. (0% to 25%) The divorcee gets remarried (20%), then divorces again (40%). They get remarried one more time (33%), then divorced one more time (50%). If this kept going till the person had twelve divorces (which I realize is unrealistic), the group would have a divorce rate of 80%, but only one of the four men would have had a divorce. The other three are still happily married. Data improperly categorized is poor data, and while my example is limited, I think it showcases the issue at hand.
My great Aunt is Chinese (not blood related) came to the states when she was 18 to go to college and married my Uncle sometime before I was born. There's about a 30 year age difference between them (she's in her late 50s now and he's somewhere in his 80s). For a while my uncle had bad health issues and was sick with what turned out to be a stroke. For a few years she acted more as a caretaker in a nursing home than as a wife, and one holiday I made a comment to her on how difficult that must be. She responded saying how in China it's socially unacceptable to leave your spouse in times of sickness or crisis. The commitment of marriage is taken very seriously, and if it is to be broken then at a bare minimum you show enough respect to leave when your spouse is in good health and isn't dependant on your support. Even though things were hard, she believed it to be unacceptable to take any other action than making sure she did everything she was able to help him through his sickness. Fortunately he's better now, and their relationship is strong as it has been since before I was born. There's no such social stigma in the states. If a couple gets divorced here it's seen as a salvation of one's independence, and relationships are treated as something that probably won't last. When you enter a relationship with that low an expectation you doom the relationship to failure. If failure is a possibility you're willing to accept, then you're far more likely to accept it, rather than put in the hard work necessary to stay together. I think this is definitely part of the divorce issue. It's disgusting to me that people value relationships so poorly. I have tremendous respect for my aunt for her attitude and her dedication to my uncle. I know a lot of women could benefit from her example.
Men too considering many walk out on their families (just pointing that out as it seemed a bit sexist to only mention women).
In the West we have 3 philosophies that really create a strange situation when it comes to marriage, long term commitments, etc...
1. The pursuit and attainment of happiness is the most important life goal: Happiness is a very short term thing, and even your soulmate isn't always going to make you the happiest person in the world: that doesn't mean something is wrong, it means that you are living your life.
2. The value of the freedom of personal choice: We believe that people have the right to basically do whatever they want, and we don't have social structures in place that prevent people from fucking their lives up. I don't care if you have the best intentioned, most loyal wife in the world; if she surrounds herself with women who try to emulate Sex and The City in their personal lives: your wife is more likely to slip up. Her friends will create situations for her to stray, even if it's unintentional.
3. We have constant reminders of everything we don't have: This pretty much causes us to get tunnel vision and shut ourselves off from everything that isn't our next paycheck.
Because people select partners based on an innocent past, education, some emphasis on looks, family background and personality (morals, discipline etc.) while in the west they put looks above everything else. They care about personality too but looks come first which isn't the case in the so-called 3rd world countries. Also, things like education and a good job are obviously ignored.
The leading causes for divorce in the west are:Cheating and financial crisis.
People in the so-called 3rd world countries tend to have higher self-control and are more likely to choose partners with a good degree. So, the divorces are less likely to happen.
Damn u educated women
I don’t think it’s necessarily about morality, but that people in western countries often have more options due to wealth and don’t remain together out of necessity like they do elsewhere.
In places where people marry to forge stronger familial unions, to merge property lines or for protection and safety they’re likely to stay together to keep that.
In the west if something’s not working you throw it away and start again. If my computer breaks I don’t spend a bunch of time and effort on trying to fix it; I buy another one.
For many, relationships are the same way.
Which is totally wrong and corrupted, marriage is sacred and should last forever
@TonyMetal_86 that’s not realistic. Should women stay in a marriage where the husband beats her? Should men stay in a marriage where his wife loathes him and goes out of her way to make his life miserable? Should a couple stay married when one wants children and the other has changed their mind and now doesn’t and neither is budging on their stance?
Have your ideals for yourself, the rest of the world doesn’t work within them
In a real marriage such things won't happen if the both couples knows what a true marriage is...
@TonyMetal_86 your delusions aren’t even amusing anymore. Let’s not talk again 😊
Family court law is the answer. It’s the seed of all evils. It’s been written that once you get married to a woman, she is entitled to half of your wealth, property, half of your everything. It’s very common to find a man getting divorce raped after 2 years of marriage.
In the Philippines, women will pursue annulment rather than divorce. Because the family court law there don’t put women on the pedestal. Yes women can divorce, but she is also forced to sign a paper saying she will not marry again, ever. Why? Well for a 3d world country. That certain society has a particular ideology that they hold high in their culture.
1. Women's rights. (No one should have to live with abuse).
2. It's legal.
3. A change in the culture surrounding marriage.
4. Some men leave from abuse. Men should not have to put up with abuse, either.
5. Con artists. Marriage con artists... It's a thing.
6. One person cheating on the other. Be it from intoxication, thinking they found love, or something else.
7. The increase of looking for "love" which is typically a fleeting affair that can last up to two years. Once the initial high from new love leaves, they have to decide if they actually like each other enough to stay. Often this turns out to be a no, likely from the constant desire for that new love feeling. Sometimes from the fact that the high of new love made them hide who they really are. Sometimes because the high of new love made them overlook things they can't actually stand to live with.
so there's 2 things about this. A: why is there more divorce and B: is that good or bad?
A: there is more divorce in countries where the social repercussions are low. so for example in many parts of india, a divorce still means social death for the woman and make it very hard for the man to find a new wife too so basically you're stuck with your partner for good.
B: is that good or bad? well choosing a partner isn't easy and really there's no good way of learning how to find a good one. i'd say it's good to be able to divorce, cause everyone can be wrong about the partner they chose. being stuck with a mistake sucks.
Countries with the highest success rate are usually the most religious, the divorce is either going against god or extremely judged. Culture and lifestyle has a big impact. Obviously the laws are the biggest factor, because many people might want the divorce but it is simply against the rules. Westerners have all the freedom, promiscuous lifestyle, they do not see marriage as something for life, to them it's more ''until something doesn't go how I planned''
Flawed social system. Lower commitment, loyalty and trust to relationship, higher lifestyles extremely based on materialistic things. But still most people work/fight for basic necessities these days which never happens in most 3rd world countries. People fight for basic needs in developed world and people fight for development in lesser developed worlds. Lack of securities for basic necessities is one of main cause of divorce in developed countries. Lol for instance, someday we might pay for the air we breathe.
The West is currently rebelling against itself and its old institutions, marriage is not seem with good eyes. And the people that marry give it little thought, wich severely increases the chance of a divorce. Very high expectations and little personal effort turn marriages into disappointments. Also, the feeling of being married is different in itself, people marry more as a formality, before people only really got togheter with the marriage, the marriage was a community event filled with simbolism, and when you married you would make sacrifices to make it work, people don't make sacrifices nowadays
Social stigma against divorce has waned in the west, more women getting higher education and entering the workforce makes them less dependent on their husbands, pop culture promoted promiscuity and unrealistic standards, shrinking religious influence has decreased the value of marriage, more people opt out of parenthood and so have less attachment to their marriage.
Tons of reasons really
because being liberal and free is what the western nations are built on. however, this is one side effect of having our freedom. For girls especially, when they've been with many different guys, they start to pull the best traits of each guy and form it into some super guy that doesn't exist. They get bored with their man because he isn't like some other dude or wants something new so she leaves. She has nothing holding her back, she gets a huge pay check if she leaves, so what's stopping her?
The trick is to find a girl who hasn't had any partners in her life but you. Good luck
Because women are free to abuse the system thanks to feminism / misandry. If she wants to steal her man's money, house, kids, pets, etc. all she has to do is file for divorce. So that's what women do. The liberal media is supporting this thus destroying families in the country. And politics are making people more divided than ever. Marriage is a thing of the past.
On the one hand, it's the loss of value that the nuclear family once had in the West but on the other hand, it would also be unfair to say that marriages tend to be successful in countries where divorce rates are smaller - chances are that many of them consists of two married people who are not happy with one another but they can't divorce because that is either illegal or taboo.
In Hinduism (india) marriage and divorce are rather difficult, the woman pays a dowry to the guy which is higher depending on the beauty of the girl.
And in Islam- divorce is said to be unliked by god.
I'm guessing this plays a role. Other things are wealth and open relationships and later unfaithfulness... the world has become more 'I see it-I want it' rather than 'what i already have is enough' if that makes sense?
The dowry system is a thing of the past and it was actually LOWER if the girl was beautiful.
Islam doesn't promote dowry system it's a cultural stop lying about other peoples religion. I was at Islamic wedding this weekend no dowry was exchanged in U.. Nor is divorce promoted by any religion. Its ugly thing for family to be break up god forbid. Would u like ur parents to split up? But it's not like catholic where is Ashamed to be divorced. Divorced women are no different then single they can remarry. Unlike Hindu where they are casted out of society and not talked too.
Actually, a muslim friend told me that once a husband says "talaq" three times then they get divorced and then the wife has to go through halala to marry her husband again if he realizes his mistake. A hindu woman can remarry without any such act. The reason why many women choose not to divorce is they get attached to their husbands and can't let go.
It isn't that easy lol. Tell any Muslim man say talaq see if their wife is divorced lol that's ridiculous. You didn't say a word and boom u were married. What makes u think u can say a word and get divorced. Stop talking to ignorant people. They will make u mockery of u.
I never said islam promotes dowry- I just said its unliked by god- و أبغض الحلال عند الله الطلاق. I never claimed to be an expert about Hinduism- but what I said was a general guess never said a rule. And its rude of you assume I would say any religion promotes divorce. I just said that some religions have a different way fo show it. Also it's even more rude of you to just assume I would talk about something I dont know and call people ignorant without knowing their background. I said 'depending on the girls beauty' didn't mention higher or lower.
Please understand what I wrote before jumping to your own conclusions.
Making claims in a opinion about islam or any other religion makes u bias. U trashed Hindu saying they make marriage n divorce difficult. 2) U said islam is if islam is separate religion from Abrahamic faiths. "Divorce is unliked by God" I said that's all religions. nothing specific about any other religion. So stop picking and choosing Faith's other wise speak general. Without using religion labels. Other wise ur disrespectful and ignorant.
I did NOT trash the religion - I know for a fact that at least all my female indian friends at one point have told me that marriage and divorce are difficult- they are all born and raised there so I respect their opinion.
If you understood it as 'trashing'- I meant no disrespect and I know better than to mean harm to any religion. I was not taught that way.
The question was why some countries have a lower divorce rate than others.
I just assumed since I saw Egypt on there then it could be due to the religious reasons- again I never compared any other religion or say any religion promotes it- but in the holy Quran it is stated in such a way - but I'm sound in my mind to know egypt has both Christianity and Islam both- and I have knowledge that all three books (Quran/ the bible and the torah) are rather similar and have common foundations. I know better than to insult religions online.
Again- my opinion does not segregate the religions nor was it meant to bash any religion. I never meant for it in that sense.
if you continued reading I also mentioned the finances/ unfaithfulness- So I spoke in general also.
My whole post was meant to be in general so stop taking it in such a roundabout manner and being rude.
I have based my opinion from people around me and I can promise you that I come from a much more diverse background that you think. So dont accuse me of bashing any religion.
Obviously, most of these marriages were in the 80s and 90s right? Like your parents generation.
Lots of economic hardships, people get married because being a woman solo back then was pretty bad because they couldn't make enough to live.
So they had to marry whatever guy looking marginally competent. Eventually, the bar marriage falls apart.
Because we live in a society based on comfort and a lot of us aren't willing to fight for their marriage. Plus people don't think that well when it comes to marrying others on whether it'll be compatible or not. This includes beliefs and just how they should live their life. A lot of people in the U. S. don't care about politics.
Interesting answers. I think in general women in America are very selfish in comparison to other countries. Men are too, but women are initiating a lot more divorce than me. I also believe that other countries have stronger values in regards to marriage, love, and commitment. I’m half latino and no one on that side of my family has ever gotten a divorce.
than men*
Because they are smart enough to not waste their time with a toxic marriage
Marriage unity between two people but if u can't find the right partner to treat u well, don't blame society. Most western women disobey parents and partners anyway.
Because people are less likely to be treated worse by other from a trivial fact like this. They also live longer meaning they change more troughout life and are more likely to outgrow eachother. Lastly gals are a lot more free than their sisters in the east where traditionally it is a descision made by only the man, more or less doubling the chance.
Because other countries still still use mass social pressure via “tradition”.
Well in some of those places I'm pretty sure it's illegal and or highly frowned upon. Also Luxembourg is full of rich people so they marry sexy models models divorce take have the moneysss lol and in a lot of the low countries there isn't much choice once your married and have kids you can't up and leave cause of money
Well the thing about western countries is freedom in places like India it’s basically considered sin you divorce even if you don’t like each other. Im persian and know this. But also don’t forget the uk a lot of people lie flake ghost etc in india it doesn’t exist there’s a stigma of truth and honesty. In the UK it doesn’t happen really a lot of people are fake and not 100% with each other.
One of the significant factor is in countries like India people generally consult their parents before marriage
And both the faimlies meet talk
Co-ordinate and them they get married
So, its obvious that these countries have least divorce due to this high quality bonding between them and their families
The stigma of divorce is worse in other countries. Less women have the independence to make the choice to ever leave a marriage. Too many people rush into marriage in the west without considering how deeply they know their partner.
Because we are stupid. Marriage in other cultures has more to do with duty and family than individualistic needs.
Because over hear unfaithful wives are not stoned to death as they are in countries that practice mutt religion.
Here unfaithful wives are allowed a life. Ask their Lawyer.
Because family values in the west have declined. Most divorce in the west is due to money problems. There is a lot of consumerism in the west, many people spend too much money on their wedding day for example. They dont take into consideration financial pressures during marriage.
I think it's an error to assume that the best outcome of every marriage is never divorce. In Western countries women have the ability to get away from men who mistreat them. I think, as awful as divorce is, that's sometimes the best of bad options.
Cuz those countries made the mistake of letting women talk
Lol women are part of society not part of Male problem.
They can be both
In a lot of countries there a lot of pressure from society not to divorce so it’s often something that just isn’t done
Marriage and divorce serves the interest of women and women care only about themselves. They suffer no consequences when they get divorced. They can only gain from it.
There's also the religious response to take into account.
Western people don't take that as seriously or thinks divorce takes value away from a eprson.
I think divorce is a trend in western countries
I agree women movement have used too much leverage on men. To point now there are Express divorce courts.
I think they must put a update on facebook and instagram how they are happily divorced.
We have something called divorce parties now... in the UK._.
And its shameful how all the family and friends promote each other to divorce. Damaging children's lives over stupid things.
*I am not for domestic violence etc (disclaimer)*
Divorce isn't a bad thing it just means people weren't meant to be married and go on their separate lives. What I don't get it's why so high. Wow. 51% that means for every marriage there is 50\50 chance they are going to divorce living in western society.
Obviously they are doing it for stupid reason. 50 percent can't be due to domestic violence or sexual abuse.
There are other reasons like financial and affairs and am sure there are things like annoying mother in laws.
50 percent? Of people have those issues wow
You be surprised how little it takes to divorce as simple as I don't like her cooking or her sex. Lol
This is story in NJ 2013 she divorced for her man having small penis., lol njfamilylaw.foxrothschild.com/.../
Guy should have told her before hand.. just like that some women don't have a vaginal opening.
There is no compromise these days.
What's women vaginal have to do with money.
I compared it to the small penis
Oh. Not even close man has a lot options mouth, anal, re-constructing vagina. In hence boobs to become bigger. Man can't make penis bigger.
Man has options like oral sex and fingering. But dude should have told the woman first.
Women need penetration
Probably cuz shear survival doesn't depend so much on the family structure in the west. Also the westerners chase pleasure and have little tolerance for any hiccups in relationships. It has to do with the greater living standards and wealth.
@Amanda269 for me personally its: lie, have shitty morals, get obese and not living healthy.
For western culture i think they just get bored and chase pleasures like hedonists throwing their family in the trash
Yes. Also because in like Asia, middle east and africa divorce isn't always like socially acceptable
Because they don't stay with someone for religious reasons, as most other countries do, and women have more freedom to leave if they want to.
Are women allowed to divorce in 3rd world and eastern countries?
Obviously
Except in India
its not obvious and its not only India. Most Arab nations prohibit it. Additionally, in most western nations, women work and are permitted to work, which enables them to earn their own money and be less dependent on the husbands income which in turn frees them up to really think about their satisfaction within the marriage.
Arabs do not prohibit name one country.
Where does it day women can't divorce it just just says courts give preference men on court rulings instead of men. Because men rule the country. Where women are given preference in western thanks to feminism.
Are you dumb... I know plenty of women who have divorced in India too.. It's just the ones that live below poverty line who don't get a say.
Ur a moron Christian Indians live there too. 1 billion people india am talking about hindu. Not others.
Er, because people in Western countries have the freedom to do what they actually want.
You can shove your fake morals up your arse.
Because women have more liberties than in India, Chile, Columbia, Mexico, Kenya, South Africa or Egypt.
There are some other elements adding to it - but womens liberties is the eky factor.
Wealth since basic living is easier over here people focus so much more on others and how happy they feel on the daily so that means they feel more entitled to “make change”
Cuz western women are brainwashed.
They don't know their role
They don't want responsibilities
And they don't know what the heck they are doing.
If yiu get married to a westernized women in 2019... Then you are an idiot
Maybe because in some the divorce laws are easier and in some the Catholic Church has a higher rate of guilt trips
It is actually both, women having more rights in the western countries but also to be very honest the people in the West are also somewhat short sighted when it comes to love and relationships.
@SueAnon84 😮
Mainly the collapse of religious influences that understood marriage as a true commitment that was not to be tossed aside haphazardly. Stir in no-fault divorce and there you have it.
Well a lot has to do with people getting married because of needed for something yet proplem is to keep things going would cost more to stay married than spilt but live together
Probably because setting your wife on fire isn't actually prosecuted in non-Western countries. They still don't want to bother with prosecuting gang rapes.
Because it is easier to make money and to support yourself. Also people are more open minded and less religious. In all those shithole countries you stick with what you got in order to survive.
Promiscuity is promoted endlessly
Divorce is normalized
God was removed from marriage
The countries with the lowest divorce rates, do not have no fault divorce laws.
Theory more options less focus, stronger economies grants greater options increasing frequiencies of divorce since there is less focus on family
Because neither sex needs the other. So men treat women like disposable trash and women dont feel the need to be good wives its like ehh fuck it. So marriage is just doomed for typical people.
Divorce is a privilige. I know many women who can't divorce 'cause they are dependent on their husband
That's a sad case but it's on the women nor to put herself in that situation by getting career or doing entrepreneurial skills while single.
This takes time sometimes an entire lifetime to get a solid career and women have intense child rearing pressures in their 20s and 30s
Which is why they get maternity lol
Not in the USA
In the USA, sure you can take time off but its UNPAID lol good luck paying the bills 😏
Because people select partners based on short term love
Many people rush into marriage just to feel more intimate and don't take the time to learn about each other more and many are not even marrying with the right intentions.
Divorce rates directly correlate with how promiscuous the people involved are. Marriages between non-promiscuous people in Western countries are highly successful.
Less oppression of women is probably the answer to that one.
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