Why is ghosting the best way to break up with a female?

[Vegasrunner]

[Screenwriter]

What? Are you dating females so awful you need to never speak to them again immediately?

Ghosting is a lazy, mean way to end a relationship.

At least tell someone you are no longer interested and say good-bye. If you feel the need to, block them on any social media where you're connected and from your phone. Then there's no ability for a person to contact you further.

Most rational adults will accept "I'm no longer interested..." But, according to how someone has met a woman, and what type of person that woman is, there might be some who won't accept "I'm no longer interested."

However, there are a million reasons for "no longer interested." If it's that you don't want to discuss any "reasons," ghosting is EASY.

But it's certainly a lack of good manners.

[Vegasrunner]

@Screenwriter If I'm not having sex w/ a female why would I talk to her? Most women aren't rationale so doesn't seem to be any reason to risk it. For a lot of my women I'm the first guy that has ever said no to them much less out right drop them. If you're not interested then you don't need to say anything your action will convey the point. Also why would I want to choose a difficult way of dumping a girl when an easy one is available?

[Screenwriter]

It's difficult to say I'm not interested, thanks but no thanks? That doesn't take a minute.

So the only reason you're with a woman is for sex. Well if you're only doing hookups, maybe ghosting is appropriate because you don't have a relationship. I see your point.

You're talking about hookups only. Sex dates.

But you only engage with women for sex? You don't have interpersonal relationships with women?
But I am curious about your not having ANY relationships with ANY women. What's up with that?

There are rational women. I'm one, and I have rational women friends, too. Might be harder to find us, but we're out here... Might be worth your while to try. Good luck.

[Vegasrunner]

@Screenwriter I think I understand you're confusion. I think you're speaking of the initial stage, I'm speaking of after you've already started banging her. No rejection of a woman takes "a minute" at the very least she's going to want to know why, or become angry and even violent in some cases. You don't understand this because you've never had to deal w/ a woman as a man.
Yea, I only keep woman around I'm having sex w. They don't offer value to me otherwise. All my personal relationships w/ women include sex, if it didn't I wouldn't be in a relationship with them. There's no benifit to me. I don't know you so I can't speak to rather you're rational, however the fact that you're using anecdotal evidence to refute a general statement tells me you're not as rational as you think. Also the fact that you believe it's worth my time to look for a needle in a haystack is another indication that you're not as rational as you make it out. A "rational" person understands that if I'm getting what I want why would I go out of my way to acquise for something that makes a random person feel better?

[Screenwriter]

Clearly I might have been disappointed that someone wanted no more than sex with me, but violent?

I think a cut and dried, I'm not interested in anything other than sex, A friends with benefits relationship, could be fine with some women.

I don't think an emotionally, mentally balanced woman is a needle in a haystack. And do you mean you "date" these women you're having sex with, or is it just sex? Sounds limited.

Friend/lover sounds a whole lot better. Might be hard to find, but worth it in the long run. Payoff is more substantial.

[Vegasrunner]

@Screenwriter I think you're being sarcastic, deep down you have to know that a large portion of women feel comfortable hitting a man because they know they man isn't supposed to retaliate.
It's actually find w/ most women provided you DONT tell them. Women make decisions emotionally if you tell them, you've removed the emotion, and prevented her from being able to receive positive validation wgich is ultimately what they seek. A hot guy that they are randomly hooking up w/ is a much better story than a boyfriend who won't commit.
You can't really say because you're a woman (emotionally imbalanced) judging other emotionally imbalanced humans. I'm not sure i understand your distinction between dating and sex. Please elaborate. Again like most woman you're sharing what sounds good "to you" This is a common tactic used by women when they hear information that makes them feel bad.
1. Provide solution for a problem they create - No one mentioned anything about what I want being "hard to find"
2. Project their feelings onto your success - I'm a guy my payoff is sex, it's an easy zero sum game. You're a woman you need more emotional stimulation to categorize success.

[Screenwriter]

You can date without having sex. There is a distinction between them because they aren't the same thing, though they can occur together.

You might eventually have sex after some period of dating and getting to know someone well enough to trust them.

Though there are people who do not date and simply have sex with each other without knowing much about each other and without having particular trust between themselves.

Nothing about my comments was meant sarcastically. I don't know any women who hit men because they know the man won't retaliate. I don't know any women who hit men, period. This is my experience with lifelong friends. Anecdotal it is. I'm sure there are women who do.

[Screenwriter]

Nothing about your information "makes me feel bad."

And how do you know it's fine with most women to ghost them IF you ghost them? You cut them off. Therefore you can't find out how they feel about being cut off.

"Women make decisions emotionally if you tell them, you've removed the emotion, and prevented her from being able to receive positive validation wgich is ultimately what they seek." OK, there's some screwy punctuation here. I can't understand what you're saying. I see that you're saying you've prevented a woman from receiving positive validation which is what women seek, but I can't figure out the first part of the sentence.

If you ghost the woman, you've removed her emotional decision making and therefore prevented her from getting positive validation?

I also don't understand the second statement. Women project their feelings onto a man's success? What kind of success are you talking about? Sexual? Financial? Social? Political? Educational?

You saying a woman usurps a man's success of some kind to get the same payoff a man gets with sex.

Again, you're equating two completely different things. Success and feelings aren't related. I mean, someone can have a feeling about success. But , are you saying women get no payoff from sex? They need more emotional "stimulation" to feel successful about sex? But what do you mean when you say "emotional stimulation?" Do you mean commitment or something else?

[Vegasrunner]

@Screenwriter You could date w/out sex but there's no point for a guy to do it. He woukd be wasting time and resources just to take on the problems of women.
My personal rule is a 3 date maximum, if a women doesn't have sex w/ you after 3 dates then it's time to focus on the next one.
Anecdotal evidence isn't relevant to a generally conversation.

[Vegasrunner]

@Screenwriter It obviously makes you feel bad, because you used words like "awful and Lazy in your initial response. I never said ghosting was fine w/ most women. If I ghost a women I don't care how she "feels" because Im never going to see her again.
Pretty straightforward. I think I understand your confusion about the emotion part. I was responding to your statement describing the value of a man telling a woman he's not interested or only seeks friends with benefits. This is a huge mistake most men make. Woman think emotionally therefore if you tell her, you have openly rejected her, and her ego isn't going to allow her to accept that. That's where a lot of the violence comes in. However if you just keep banging her w/out bringing up your true intentions, she'll stay emotionally attached to you longer. Complicated I know and as a woman it may be to difficult for you to understand.

[Vegasrunner]

@Screenwriter Women project their feelings onto a man's success. Let's demonstrate how this plays out tangibly. You made the statement "Friends may be hard to find but may be worth it in the long run" Well no where in this conversation have I mentioned was seeking friendship from women. Its something you made up and are pretending it's important to me. A man's metric of success is having sex w/ women yet you've implemented the female metric as if it's something I'm remotely interested. This is a standard tactic used by women.
It's fascinating that even at your age you don't understand this.
If a man is amongst other men, discussing his experience w/ women he's only deemed successful w/ women if he has sex w/ them. If a woman is amongst other women discussing her experience w/ men their our countless metrics she has to determine success. How he makes her feel, how much her earns, he status, etc. You've done like most women do and decided to attribute your metric to male standards. This is part if the reason it's easier to raise boys than girls. Your son has a clear defined metric of success w/ women. Did you have sex w/ her. If the answer is yes, than he was successful. For your daughter m, did he treat you right, where did he take you, was he a gentleman? These are all subjective things w/ no clear definition. I hope this helps.

[Screenwriter]

Would you please stop talking down to me. I understand precisely what you mean. You dont care what she feels so ghosting her is fine with you because you're never going to see her again.

I also think it's fine for a guy to openly reject a woman. I can accept it. It ain't pleasant, but if he wants to go, let him.

I don't want emotional attachment to someone who's not honest with me. You want friends with benefits, that 's fine. I'm not interested in you. You aren't interested in me, also fine. I'm not going to waste my time getting violent with you. Go, and good luck getting what you want.

Don't wanna be banged and emotionally attached to someone who only wants sex and not friendship and the rest. I'm pretty simple.

And I don't feel bad. I was wondering if YOU felt bad with a host of women, so you decided to ONLY have sex with them. Lazy, violent, awful women would be pretty bad to encounter. And might lead you to only want sex and no attachments. I can understand that.

[Vegasrunner]

@Screenwriter It's unfortunate that you feel talked down to but if I'm reading your comments accurately you stated on numerous occasions about things you "don't understand"
You thinking it's fine for a guy to reject a woman isn't really relevant, because you're not dating women as a man. It's also not relevant because like most woman you're thinking about a man you don't like rejecting you, which happens all the time. Being rejected by a guy women actually like is what they can't handle. Ironically you're proving my point and you don't even realize it. If telling a woman you want to be friends with benefits results in you loosing sexual access to a woman, what incentive would a man have to be honest? Especially when I've already explained to you that sex is the only reason men deal w/ women.
I agree you're pretty simple, you sound like most women.
No man feels bad w/ a host of women. Thats literally what I'm teaching you. You, like most women keep equating what you want w/ what men want. You feel bad if a bunch of men bang you. Men have built empires from the ability to have a host of women. Most women are lazy, and will become violent when they don't get the man they want. While I enjoy the dialog these are things that are going to be difficult for you to understand because most women don't know relationships from both sides they only know what they want as you continue to prove.

[Screenwriter]

I'm thinking about a man I DO like rejecting me and it hurting. If I don't like a man and he rejects me, what does that matter?

I do agree that sex is a big reason men want to be with women.

But, I also believe that it is not the ONLY reason, as in your case, that men are with women. I think your misapprehension is that ALL men are exactly like you. I can't quote percentages, but I know there are men who enjoy being with women for fun, company, 360 degree relationships AND sex.

I think basing a relationship on a lie only to have sexual access is wrong. Now, there are women who might be fine with this. The friends with benefits chicks.

I'm not equating what I want with what certain men want. In your case it appears to solely be sex.

And I don't feel bad about a bunch of men banging me, because I don't DO a bunch of men. I know men who do a bunch of women. I wouldn't want to be in that cohort.

And if I could not get some kind of equitable relationship with a man, I would simply say, this isn't working for me, and bow out, no matter how much I liked the person. or what I wanted because what I wanted and what the man wanted were not in any kind of close alighment.

[Screenwriter]

Get violent? That's a complete waste of time. And I don't know what women you've been with, but I'm a hard worker and always have been. I am still employed. And when I go to work, I do what is expected of me and often more than that. Maybe you're referring to women being lazy in relationships. Not that way either. I hold up my side of the bargain and am clear about that from the start.

Sure, I know there are men who have herds of women and flit from one to the other. Not how I grew up and not how I've ever lived.

And not how the men I've been involved with have been with me or treated me. Maybe early on when I was a teen, or in my early 20s, I had some relationship mishaps, but as a grownup out of college, this did not continue. But, if you're satisfied with your situation, good luck.

This conversation has been interesting. It's certainly one I've never had with any man about his feelings about women and what he desired. But it seems very circumscribed and lacking in depth.

You can't have sex ALL the time. There is a lot more to life than sex. There's friendship. There's hanging around.

[Vegasrunner]

@Screenwriter Lol, yes that's my point. I realize that this may be difficult to comprehend in writing, but what I'm telling you is that when you are sharing how easy it is for you not to be upset it is because you are thinking about being rejected by a man you don't like. I'm telling you that when you are rejected by a man you actually like, that's when the emotion kicks in.
Reasonable minds can differ on this point, but I disagree, if it wasn't for sexual access most men would not invest any time in women as they don't provide any significant value and actually make life more challenging. Most world evidence supports this POV.
Again you can feel as if it's "wrong" however you're a female and most females have the advantage of having men approach first providing them w/ the privilege of being honest as it nenifits them to know a man's intentions from the start. Part of being good w/ women as a man is understanding this, and doing the best you can to even out the inherent leverage woman hold. You most certainly are, as your assumptions aren't based on anything I've said. Case and point I never mentioned anything about you feeling bad because a bunch of men banged you. Thanks for sharing the last point, but please explain how that benifits a man?

[Vegasrunner]

@Screenwriter If you view this conversation most of your responses contain "I" "me". Whats difficult for women to accept is that for men woman are simply a numbers game. It's relevant what you will do if I have 4 women waiting to do what I want. I think your issue is that you can't hold up your side of the bargain because you don't know what is required of you from the otherwise. There's only a small number of men who have heard a women and an even smaller number who are willing to share these strategies publicly. I just happen to be one of them. Conversations like this are difficult for women to have because most men in society aren't willing to tell women the truth for fear of attitudes similar to yours. Think about it logically. If we agree most men want women for sex, and we agree that most women would turn down a man who told her he only wanted her for sex, what's the incentive FOR THE MAN to tell the woman the truth. TBH want women fail to grasp is that when men have these conversations it's not about what women do, rather why they do these things. I use dialog like this to provide examples of female nature to many of the young men I mentor. TY for this.

[Screenwriter]

Yes you did! This is the quote directly from you!

"No man feels bad w/ a host of women. Thats literally what I'm teaching you.

You, like most women keep equating what you want w/ what men want.

You feel bad if a bunch of men bang you.

Men have built empires from the ability to have a host of women. Most women are lazy, and will become violent when they don't get the man they want. While I enjoy the dialog these are things that are going to be difficult for you to understand because most women don't know relationships from both sides they only know what they want as you continue to prove. "

Quote from what you've said...

[Screenwriter]

I don't find this a difficult conversation, but a strange one.

And I think you mean the opposite of what you wrong here...
"Think about it logically. If we agree most men want women for sex, and we agree that most women would turn down a man who told her he only wanted her for sex, what's the (dis) incentive FOR THE MAN to tell the woman the truth."

In other words, the man needs to lie to the woman so he can get sex, correct?

[Screenwriter]

of what you WROTE

[Screenwriter]

Sorry, rereading it you are correct. What is the incentive for the man to tell the truth that he only wants sex if she'll turn him down... He has a disincentive to tell the truth. But your statement was correct..

[Vegasrunner]

@Screenwriter I think I understand your confusion. The fact that you claim "don't do a lot of men" proves what I'm saying. If you did do a lot of men it would hurt your self esteem, while banging a lot of women boost male self esteem.

[Vegasrunner]

@Screenwriter Don't be embarrassed but you're wrong about this. I mean it exactly how it was originally written. What is the incentive for the man to tell the truth do you know what the word incentive means?
He doesn't necessarily "need" to lie. It simply means there's no reason to share this information w/ the woman because it doesn't benifit a man.

[Vegasrunner]

@Screenwriter I saw this last. Yes he is not incontivezed to tell the truth.

[Screenwriter]

Doing a lot of men WOULD NOT hurt self-esteem. The reason I do not do a host of men is that there are few available around my age. Very small pool to choose from. If I wanted to bang a lot of guys, maybe I could do it. But, as I said, I choose to be in a committed relationship. Not FWBs. Because, let's face it, it's just a sex relationship. Sex isn't enough for me. I like it, sure, but I like more than only sex. Friendship, fun, talking, surfing, hiking, biking. Time together.

If I only wanted to have sex and nothing else, I'm sure I could have a bunch of men I was only having sex with. I'd find that a bit empty. I suppose it could stroke my ego with me saying, look I"m SO hot, I can service 5 guys! ANd at MY age!!! ahahahahaha!! But I'm not that way.

Doesn't take away from my self esteem, though. Maybe it adds to yours. I'm sure that's how you feel.

[Screenwriter]

Not embarrassed at all. I understand you mean it how you've said it. And I agree that some percentage of men agree with you. Don't know what percentage that is, though. I'll do some interview. My first degree was in journalism. I love research.

[Vegasrunner]

@Screenwriter Lol, you contradicted yourself in the same paragraph. So you're saying you had sex w/ a bunch of guys when you were younger? All your doing is describing what most woman want which is the entire point.
I can't tell if your being sarcastic or are really this dense.
Your ego wouldn't be stroked by having sex with 5 guys because any woman can have sex w/ 5 guys. A man's who would be stroked by having sex w/ 5 women because it means that he is doing something right. It's odd that you keep confusing this, but this is why I say women don't understand relationships. Any women willing to open her legs can have sex which is why society doesn't respect permiscuios women.

[Vegasrunner]

@Screenwriter All normal men w/ basic comprehension skill agree because it's common sense.

[Anonymous]

It's the best way to break up with a male too.

[Vegasrunner]

@Anonymous Why is it the best way to break up w/ females?

[Opinion Owner]

With either gender it's the best way to break up because you avoid having to explain why you don't want to continue with the relationship. It can get messy. They may not understand and want to drag things out. It's just better to make a clean break and leave them clueless. I recently had to deal with this and I wish I had just ghosted.

[Vegasrunner]

@Opinion Owner I don't know about either gender but at least we agree it's the best way to break up w/ females. TY for sharing.

[OneViewpoint]

Ummm... it's not. Ghosting is cowardly and disrespectful. Breaking up should be done face to face and as gently as possible and calmly. If you lack the stomach for that, you shouldn't be dating at all. You should be in remedial social skills and manhood training.

[Vegasrunner]

@OneViewpoint Someone shouldn't date because you feel bad about their breakups habbits?

[OneViewpoint]

@Vegasrunner,

No, people shouldn't date if they are cowardly shitbags who can't handle a simple breakup with grace and empathy for the other person. I have no respect for any guy (or woman) who uses that technique as their go to move to break up with someone. Those are people no one needs around.

[WonderingManII]

As far as I can tell, ghosting will end anything. In my case if I want a relationship to go away, all I need to do is stop talking. They won't even try to get me to talk again. I'm useless to people.

[DryGermanGuy]

It's the cowardly way out for shitty people, unrelated to gender.

[HusamRocks]

Losing attention results in losing interest 👍🏻

[TadBehaya]

It isn't. It's irresponsible!

[Anonymous]

That’s what cheaters say