I appreciate the insight to the shitty side of dating for women. Some of those seem like legitimate grievances, others are not particular to the female side of dating.
The rest of it boils down to, "We're the prize, you're not. You do the work, we'll pick the winners." It's part of why I don't respect women so much so automatically.
"It's part of why I don't respect women so much so automatically."
I couldn't have stated it better. Most women carry a haughty air of superiority about them, and it's very immature and off-putting. So many of them were treated as precious little princesses when they were young that they've grown up expecting men to cater to them to the extreme. It's not an adult mentality, and that's why I don't really respect it at all. I respect women who express their own agency and don't expect men to act as their valets.
Most guys move on once she shows interest- This happens a lot although many guys say they want woman to approach, so that they don't have to, woman do approach, and when they do, the guy repels. It turned out this particular guy wanted the chase. Did you ever consider that the man was never interested. I've been 100% sure that a woman was interested and got shut down. Sometimes we are just wrong in our assumptions.
All this sounds like a load of bs women spew in order to avoid having to feel rejected. I have yet to meet a man who loves the chase. I have yet to meet a man who has rejected a woman simply because she approached him. It's because they don't have interest.
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Whatever. ... A guy who has been staring at me and smiling in crowds twice a week for the past year was never interested either... but I approached him , come to find out he does the same to all my friends and he just wanted to me to be one of those girls who he can boast about liking. ... He's 20. . I really don't care anymore what guys think
"... woman do approach, and when they do, the guy repels." - Isn't this exactly opposite?
"My sisters boyfriend says on the phone "I'm just living with her until I get on my feet"." - I'm proud of your way of generalising. Same can be said for more women, don't you think? How many guys like this have you seen?
"To single out the Losers who give up easily... whole paragraph" - You just want to sit around and want him to do everything to make things work. You need to do that first in order to get what you want.
In short, playing harder to get is insanely stupid.
Your points are good, these things are necessary. However, you've written it in way (intentionally or unintentionally, not sure. I hope unintentionally) that it gives wrong impression, horribly wrong impression. Whole take sounds similar to - "I want to buy a diamond ring but I don't want to pay for it."
... in any case, playing hard to get is stupid.
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This is how women single out those guys who are not like that, it's not generalizing...
If that's how you single out then... good luck. On this way, you'll stay single most probably. If that's not the case and it's working for you then good for you.
For a lot of guys, they're told to just back off if a girl says no, which makes your logic troubling. Most guys don't want to get in trouble for sexual harassment, so they take no to mean no. Playing hard to get just makes things worse for everyone.
This kept me single all my life. I was TERRIFIED that if I ever made a move, however innocent, that she'd yell and go cry harassment and my life would be over.
I dont mind hard to get girls, as long as they are genuinely hard to get. I dont want to endup fighting for girls affections and waiting 3 months for sex only to find out she has hopped right into bed on the first date with guys she's gotten drunk with at clubs or parties.
@PT1911 Realistically I think its really rare to meet a girl who always has sex right away, but I think its almost equally rare to meet a girl who never has sex right away.
Even if a girl make you wait 2 months for sex, chances are high that she's had sex on the first date with at least 1 or 2 guys in the past. So regardless of if she's easy for you, she's probably been easy for other guys in the past.
It was just the concept, I actually liked her and wanted a real relationship. She turned me down fair enough, but then complained wht the guy she mer on a bus and fucked later wouldn't call her the next day.
@Bandit74 people can learn from their past. no one is immune to mistakes, we all make them, what makes you a better person is if you learn from it. you can't hold someones past against them, we aren't born with all the knowledge in the world.
@Bandit74 like if i knew back then what i knew now, of course i never would have slept with those guys. all it caused was a ton of pain for me. but at the time i didn't know that, and considering ALL my friends were girls who had sex relatively quickly, i just thought it was a normal thing to do. only now am i realising i should make guys wait A LOT longer... otherwise they just use you. I've learnt. i wouldn't want a guy to use my past mistakes against me because, i had to make those mistakes to learn not to do it now.. there's no textbook on how to be "the perfect girl" unfortunately, we have to learn the hard way...
@Suhmer We all make mistakes, but we don't all make the same mistakes, and many people learn from their mistake after the first time instead of repeating g them over and over again.
I'd rather be the guy who the girl wants to sleep with right away rather than being the guy who has to wait months for something you were more than comfortable doing with some drunk guy you met at a party.
I know I'm not entitled to sex right away just because you had it right away with other guys... but I can prefer it.
Also, just like a guy isn't entitled to sex, you're not entitled to a relationship. So if a guy doesn't want to wait months for something all the other guys got right away, he doesn't have to.
Nobody is entitled to anything. You get whatever the other person is willing to give you. No more, no less.
Personally I wouldn't date a girl like you. I'm sure you're going to say you wouldn't want to date me either... so great, were on the same page!
@Bandit74 not really bothered. just confirming to me that absolute all men are complete scumbags. i used to think the best of guys but in the past few weeks I've learned that guys are manipulative, cruel fuckers and none of them will ever be worth my time. so thanks for the lesson, cbfa with any men anymore.
@Bandit74 "cant be fucking arsed" lmao. and yeah, i always wanted to be open/honest with a guy, i really hate lies and secrets but I've learnt that because guys judge you so heavily for it im gonna start to lie. i have small reasons as to why the sex wouldn't count, so from that i can cut my number in half lol. but having to lie about who i am is really shitty, i honestly always dreamed of the guy i was with/married knowing absolutely everything about me, but i won't get a guy to marry me if he knows it all apparently so ah well. although what am i talking about, men are just a recipe to be hurt so maybe i should drop these marriage dreams >.<
@Suhmer Oh well I learned a new term. I was recommending that you lie, I was just saying don't bring it up unless he asks, and if he does you could always refuse to answer. Also if you lie and then 5 months into the relationship, he somehow finds out then hell be double turned off.
Most guys who are smart understand that girls lie and dont believe the number that they say anyways. Its better to go off gut instinct than to ask the girl.
@Bandit74 yeah i suppose. its funny because i said that to my best friend, that im gonna cut my number from 6 to 3 she said "its so funny that you say that because i just heard someone say that whatever number a girl gives you, add three and whatever number a guy gives you, take away 3" lmao. although my number is probably 5 considering one of them pre-ejaculated? so maybe im only taking 2 away. anyway.
multiply? ok that can be really really sexually active peoples rule because those numbers are getting pretty high now even for me. although compared to my friends I've slept with barely any, but when most guys say high numbers its always super low so... i dont even know how to judge how many is too many anymore... i'll just stick with my rule, lie my ass off and probably have my best friend slip out the truth when she's drunk one time. was inevitable it wouldn't work anyway probs
@Suhmer You dont have to lie tho. You be honest and then if the guy has a problem, he won't date you. Eventually you'll meet a guy who doesn't care and then you won't have to lie or worry about the truth getting out.
(although compared to my friends I've slept with barely any)
The second picture had me dying. There definitely seems to be a gender divide concerning marriage, among the younger generation anyway. The only one that I'm confused about, is when you say to single out the losers who give up easily. I mean no one wants to be known as the guy who can't take a hint, or can't accept rejection or a break up. Men are not psychics, it's not easy knowing if she wants us to "fight" for her, or if she really wants out. That's where women shouldn't play games, if you want to repair the relationship, repair it. Don't pull this bullshit where you want to see what we will do for you, and to what extremes we are willing to go. I disagree with the men move on when she shows interest also.
I don't chase women. I had a woman I really like lead me on for 6 months, saying she could not decide between me and another guy she was dating. Turns out, she actually was in love with a 3rd guy, and was snowing us all (as well as her ex-husband). Bad people ruin it for every gender.
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You shouldn't date girls, who keep their options, after a few dates a girl should be interested enough to drop those other guys...
The top one I can understand, not saying I'm one of them though. The second one pisses me off because I'm not so sure most guys feel that way. Even if they did, that's a lousy way to find love for the guys. And those that take advantage of a woman is a fuckin' asshole and seem to want to end mankind, because that's the direction we're headed if guys don't start "manning up". I can understand the last one. After all, that is a very critical/important trait of marriage that is necessary to have. If you can't work on a relationship, what good are you being in one? However, this last one can apply to women, too. In fact, quite frankly all of these could apply to women as well.
Hey I got one question for you if you went on a 2nd date with a guy and he said this I'm not interested in games or anything along those lines I want you. We don't need 2 do anything physical until your ready I just ask one thing so I don't have 2 think there double meaning behind it tell me the truth. Would u be more willing 2 open up I like this girl a lot and I know asshole have broken her heart. and I think she is playing hard 2 get. I just want her 2 stop with that. if not what would I guy have 2 say for you 2 stop playing games
@Diputs sooo true though. @dudeman by not playing games I've just had guys play games with me. Where I lost a guy last time a few guys told me i "made myself too available and guys like the chase. in this instance he just got you and didn't have to work for it, thats why he lost interest" and because of the hurt i got from that, and him confirming it by saying to me "i didn't even have to TRY and pull you..." that yeah. thats gonna stick with me and im gonna be forced to play games so that im not hurt like that again. its not "dumb bitches" i was dumb BEFORE. now im wising up to how to be a little more.
So, I was Blocked by @Lonewolf_1296 apparently this is a very emotional topic for him... He said I'm 19, and he won't argue with me. But ironically all the Older And wiser men I've ever talked to agree! I've even gotten a great inbox from a man at 53 stating men these days are lazyand feminine
I prefer that women are submissive to their man, I don't support abuse, or extremely narrow views of Dos and Don'ts. And I obviously don't support feminism so I wouldn't be manipulated into thinking this
Already done. Once these 50-80 year olds (who are brainwashed to vigorously support women's lib) are out of the picture, things are going to get much better.
If you look closely, you'll see that men are thoroughly oppressed and being destroyed in more ways than one. Men aren't even allowed to complain. For example, 70% of DV is committed by women, but less than 1% of DV shelters offer men support.
But you'd rather look at everything through feminist goggles.
How Many Men are Domestic Violence Victims? Men are victims of nearly 3 million physical assaults in the USA. How Often Does Domestic Violence Occur? 1 in 4 women will experience domestic violence during her lifetime. www.safehorizon.org/.../...atistics--facts-52.html
It's well known that feminist facts are wrong. Also that 40% of DV reports with the police are those of men.
You should go to realsexism (dot) com to see proper facts with backed up sources.
In fact!! There have been over 200 reports over the past 30 years to show that men have consistently been victims 40% of the time by police records. But the oppression still continues...
I was not hard to get but impossible to get, because I always felt asexual and aromantic and I didn't want anyone. BUT, when I suddenly fell in love, BOOM all of a sudden, I didn't play hard to get. I was like omg I want him. And now we are together.
Well I need to get this off me chest as a kid I said if if ever had a girlfriend I'd give her flowers. As a young man I fell for my friends cousins sister but never got to talk to her due to a fight i had with my best friend but much later on I had seen her in the high school I went to. Their were a lot of good looking ladies at my school but she was the most beautiful to me I thought of all types of ways to tell her how I felt but by the time built the courage to make a move my best had already been talking to her and they got together at first I was mad but I had nothing really to offer her I had bad grades I wasn't to athletic (yet) so I said nothing always regreted it but anyways My mom told me once that everyone has someone for them somewhere. just don't think there's anyone for me who knows?
yeah I'm starting to like this site. Let's see how do I feel I never was really motivated by sex. Yeah i think about it how to do it well enoghf with what little I have to make her not go to her ex. smile could do it for me playing hard to get just makes me feel she has a boyfriend or that she not interested but to little makes me think that she had like 20 exs
So let's get this straight, by you playing hard to get, you want us to chase after you. So when you say, "no", you mean "yes"... that's like rapist logic. i now understand why rape happens. god forbid this ever happening to you, or any woman ever, but if you (or a girl) gets raped, don't complain about it cause the guy assumed you were "playing hard to get".
It's is not about hard or easy, it's about finding the right guy and staying with him, also girls who are really not easy don't need to pretend to be hard to get, cause they are really like that. Many of the guys that want serious girl will uncover the truth, and the guys who want easy girl, will leave to find a girl who act accordingly to her true nature.
I have no patience for women who play games like that. I would literally move on and look for someone else. I respect women who are blunt and honest with me and aren't afraid to communicate how they feel. People who beat around the bush just aren't for me.
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I appreciate the insight to the shitty side of dating for women. Some of those seem like legitimate grievances, others are not particular to the female side of dating.
The rest of it boils down to, "We're the prize, you're not. You do the work, we'll pick the winners." It's part of why I don't respect women so much so automatically.
Yeah. They think they are too special because they have a vagina.
"It's part of why I don't respect women so much so automatically."
I couldn't have stated it better. Most women carry a haughty air of superiority about them, and it's very immature and off-putting. So many of them were treated as precious little princesses when they were young that they've grown up expecting men to cater to them to the extreme. It's not an adult mentality, and that's why I don't really respect it at all. I respect women who express their own agency and don't expect men to act as their valets.
Maybe I should change the title then you'd listen
Most guys move on once she shows interest- This happens a lot although many guys say they want woman to approach, so that they don't have to, woman do approach, and when they do, the guy repels. It turned out this particular guy wanted the chase.
Did you ever consider that the man was never interested. I've been 100% sure that a woman was interested and got shut down. Sometimes we are just wrong in our assumptions.
All this sounds like a load of bs women spew in order to avoid having to feel rejected. I have yet to meet a man who loves the chase. I have yet to meet a man who has rejected a woman simply because she approached him. It's because they don't have interest.
Whatever. ... A guy who has been staring at me and smiling in crowds twice a week for the past year was never interested either... but I approached him , come to find out he does the same to all my friends and he just wanted to me to be one of those girls who he can boast about liking. ... He's 20. . I really don't care anymore what guys think
"... woman do approach, and when they do, the guy repels."
- Isn't this exactly opposite?
"My sisters boyfriend says on the phone "I'm just living with her until I get on my feet"."
- I'm proud of your way of generalising. Same can be said for more women, don't you think?
How many guys like this have you seen?
"To single out the Losers who give up easily... whole paragraph"
- You just want to sit around and want him to do everything to make things work. You need to do that first in order to get what you want.
In short, playing harder to get is insanely stupid.
Your points are good, these things are necessary. However, you've written it in way (intentionally or unintentionally, not sure. I hope unintentionally) that it gives wrong impression, horribly wrong impression.
Whole take sounds similar to - "I want to buy a diamond ring but I don't want to pay for it."
... in any case, playing hard to get is stupid.
This is how women single out those guys who are not like that, it's not generalizing...
If that's how you single out then... good luck. On this way, you'll stay single most probably. If that's not the case and it's working for you then good for you.
Yes!
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Yes to all.
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The answer is simple, they are childish, and are acting like children by resorting to childlike tactic's instead of being straightforward.
A good relationship, is based off a fundamental framework of shared belief's, the greater your beliefs, the better the relationship.
Continue an effort into finding people who share the way you see the world, and who would want to share the world with you.
Anything else is futile waste of effort, in the context of general relationship's, especially romantic one's.
For a lot of guys, they're told to just back off if a girl says no, which makes your logic troubling. Most guys don't want to get in trouble for sexual harassment, so they take no to mean no. Playing hard to get just makes things worse for everyone.
True, not many guys want to risk being arrested for some stranger who might be playing hard to get.
This kept me single all my life. I was TERRIFIED that if I ever made a move, however innocent, that she'd yell and go cry harassment and my life would be over.
Go ahead. ..
I dont mind hard to get girls, as long as they are genuinely hard to get. I dont want to endup fighting for girls affections and waiting 3 months for sex only to find out she has hopped right into bed on the first date with guys she's gotten drunk with at clubs or parties.
Been on the receiving end of of that. She said I wasn't assertive enough.
I called her a cunt.
@PT1911
Realistically I think its really rare to meet a girl who always has sex right away, but I think its almost equally rare to meet a girl who never has sex right away.
Even if a girl make you wait 2 months for sex, chances are high that she's had sex on the first date with at least 1 or 2 guys in the past. So regardless of if she's easy for you, she's probably been easy for other guys in the past.
It was just the concept, I actually liked her and wanted a real relationship. She turned me down fair enough, but then complained wht the guy she mer on a bus and fucked later wouldn't call her the next day.
@PT1911
I guess that was like insult to injury
@Bandit74 people can learn from their past. no one is immune to mistakes, we all make them, what makes you a better person is if you learn from it. you can't hold someones past against them, we aren't born with all the knowledge in the world.
@Bandit74 like if i knew back then what i knew now, of course i never would have slept with those guys. all it caused was a ton of pain for me. but at the time i didn't know that, and considering ALL my friends were girls who had sex relatively quickly, i just thought it was a normal thing to do. only now am i realising i should make guys wait A LOT longer... otherwise they just use you. I've learnt. i wouldn't want a guy to use my past mistakes against me because, i had to make those mistakes to learn not to do it now.. there's no textbook on how to be "the perfect girl" unfortunately, we have to learn the hard way...
@Suhmer
We all make mistakes, but we don't all make the same mistakes, and many people learn from their mistake after the first time instead of repeating g them over and over again.
I'd rather be the guy who the girl wants to sleep with right away rather than being the guy who has to wait months for something you were more than comfortable doing with some drunk guy you met at a party.
I know I'm not entitled to sex right away just because you had it right away with other guys... but I can prefer it.
Also, just like a guy isn't entitled to sex, you're not entitled to a relationship. So if a guy doesn't want to wait months for something all the other guys got right away, he doesn't have to.
Nobody is entitled to anything. You get whatever the other person is willing to give you. No more, no less.
Personally I wouldn't date a girl like you. I'm sure you're going to say you wouldn't want to date me either... so great, were on the same page!
@Bandit74 great. just what i needed to hear lol
@Suhmer
Anytime 😊
I bet you regret upvoting me now lol
@Bandit74 not really bothered. just confirming to me that absolute all men are complete scumbags. i used to think the best of guys but in the past few weeks I've learned that guys are manipulative, cruel fuckers and none of them will ever be worth my time. so thanks for the lesson, cbfa with any men anymore.
@Suhmer
Well if the guy doesn't know about your past then you're golden. Ignorance is bliss.
Also there are some guys who truly don't care, although they are a minority.
cbfa?
@Bandit74 "cant be fucking arsed" lmao. and yeah, i always wanted to be open/honest with a guy, i really hate lies and secrets but I've learnt that because guys judge you so heavily for it im gonna start to lie. i have small reasons as to why the sex wouldn't count, so from that i can cut my number in half lol.
but having to lie about who i am is really shitty, i honestly always dreamed of the guy i was with/married knowing absolutely everything about me, but i won't get a guy to marry me if he knows it all apparently so ah well. although what am i talking about, men are just a recipe to be hurt so maybe i should drop these marriage dreams >.<
@Suhmer
Oh well I learned a new term.
I was recommending that you lie, I was just saying don't bring it up unless he asks, and if he does you could always refuse to answer. Also if you lie and then 5 months into the relationship, he somehow finds out then hell be double turned off.
Most guys who are smart understand that girls lie and dont believe the number that they say anyways. Its better to go off gut instinct than to ask the girl.
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@Bandit74 yeah i suppose. its funny because i said that to my best friend, that im gonna cut my number from 6 to 3 she said "its so funny that you say that because i just heard someone say that whatever number a girl gives you, add three and whatever number a guy gives you, take away 3" lmao. although my number is probably 5 considering one of them pre-ejaculated? so maybe im only taking 2 away. anyway.
@Suhmer
Yup that's the rule. +3 for gilrs and -3 for guys. Although some say multiply instead of add :/
lol so by removing 3, he's just going to add it back anyways :D
multiply? ok that can be really really sexually active peoples rule because those numbers are getting pretty high now even for me. although compared to my friends I've slept with barely any, but when most guys say high numbers its always super low so... i dont even know how to judge how many is too many anymore... i'll just stick with my rule, lie my ass off and probably have my best friend slip out the truth when she's drunk one time. was inevitable it wouldn't work anyway probs
@PT1911 wow your so butt hurt just because you wasn't her type
@Suhmer
You dont have to lie tho. You be honest and then if the guy has a problem, he won't date you. Eventually you'll meet a guy who doesn't care and then you won't have to lie or worry about the truth getting out.
(although compared to my friends I've slept with barely any)
How high are their numbers?
The second picture had me dying. There definitely seems to be a gender divide concerning marriage, among the younger generation anyway. The only one that I'm confused about, is when you say to single out the losers who give up easily. I mean no one wants to be known as the guy who can't take a hint, or can't accept rejection or a break up. Men are not psychics, it's not easy knowing if she wants us to "fight" for her, or if she really wants out. That's where women shouldn't play games, if you want to repair the relationship, repair it. Don't pull this bullshit where you want to see what we will do for you, and to what extremes we are willing to go. I disagree with the men move on when she shows interest also.
I don't chase women. I had a woman I really like lead me on for 6 months, saying she could not decide between me and another guy she was dating. Turns out, she actually was in love with a 3rd guy, and was snowing us all (as well as her ex-husband). Bad people ruin it for every gender.
You shouldn't date girls, who keep their options, after a few dates a girl should be interested enough to drop those other guys...
Why don't you approach guys yourself?
This whole "men don't like it" stuff is complete hogwash. Everywhere around me I see relationships which happened because the woman stepped up.
Play hard to get and you'll end up hard to want. I don't have time for overly entitled women who desperately cling to 1950's stereotypes.
@CaliforniaMe also your over-use of the term "alpha" and "beta" makes it hard to take you seriously.
You simply seem like an overly entitled man-hater.
The top one I can understand, not saying I'm one of them though. The second one pisses me off because I'm not so sure most guys feel that way. Even if they did, that's a lousy way to find love for the guys. And those that take advantage of a woman is a fuckin' asshole and seem to want to end mankind, because that's the direction we're headed if guys don't start "manning up". I can understand the last one. After all, that is a very critical/important trait of marriage that is necessary to have. If you can't work on a relationship, what good are you being in one? However, this last one can apply to women, too. In fact, quite frankly all of these could apply to women as well.
Hey I got one question for you if you went on a 2nd date with a guy and he said this
I'm not interested in games or anything along those lines I want you. We don't need 2 do anything physical until your ready I just ask one thing so I don't have 2 think there double meaning behind it tell me the truth.
Would u be more willing 2 open up I like this girl a lot and I know asshole have broken her heart. and I think she is playing hard 2 get. I just want her 2 stop with that. if not what would I guy have 2 say for you 2 stop playing games
Tell her and see what happens. If nothing good happens then, she's not good for you.
A woman who doesn't play hard to get is labeled 'slut'.
Interesting reaction. 3 thumbs up: all women. 4 thumbs down: all men.
@Diputs sooo true though. @dudeman by not playing games I've just had guys play games with me. Where I lost a guy last time a few guys told me i "made myself too available and guys like the chase. in this instance he just got you and didn't have to work for it, thats why he lost interest"
and because of the hurt i got from that, and him confirming it by saying to me "i didn't even have to TRY and pull you..." that yeah. thats gonna stick with me and im gonna be forced to play games so that im not hurt like that again. its not "dumb bitches" i was dumb BEFORE. now im wising up to how to be a little more.
Sorry, but that's bullshit. Usually the ones that play more games tend to be sluttiest cause they want all that attention and thrive from it.
Oh when I first say a woman who doesn't play hard to get I thought that it meant she wasn't interested and you just assuming she was.
I like sluts :(
@AleDeEurope 100% agree!
@apple_tart
I see you like to insult people.
You must be VERY COOL
I see you're a hypocrite just like women. At what age did your mom chop off your balls?
@apple_tart You're digging lower and lower. How classy.
I'm guessing 4 or 5?
So, I was Blocked by @Lonewolf_1296 apparently this is a very emotional topic for him... He said I'm 19, and he won't argue with me. But ironically all the Older And wiser men I've ever talked to agree! I've even gotten a great inbox from a man at 53 stating men these days are lazyand feminine
I think I get your comment as how society views those women.
And I think it's somewhat overdone.
@apple_tart Dig deeper, you haven't reached the bottom yet.
These older and wiser men are only older & wiser children of a generation that was heavily indoctrinated to support women's liberation.
A stupid move, but I guess we'll all have to learn the lesson..
I prefer that women are submissive to their man, I don't support abuse, or extremely narrow views of Dos and Don'ts. And I obviously don't support feminism so I wouldn't be manipulated into thinking this
@apple_tart
Prehistory called: they want their apple tart back.
Prehistory asked to send CaliforniaMe too.
prehistory lol.
This is the most f*cked up up/down votes I have ever seen 😂
Fucking 69yo white knight
@creedkind I see you like to insult. You must feel cool.
@creedkind Go do your homework.
Already done. Once these 50-80 year olds (who are brainwashed to vigorously support women's lib) are out of the picture, things are going to get much better.
@creedkind You're the only one responsible for your situation.
But we'll pity you if you insist.
lol so I'm responsible for modern western culture... which is destroying society?
@creedkind You're the one complaining. You're the only one responsible for YOUR situation. Don't try to say 'others did it'
If you look closely, you'll see that men are thoroughly oppressed and being destroyed in more ways than one. Men aren't even allowed to complain. For example, 70% of DV is committed by women, but less than 1% of DV shelters offer men support.
But you'd rather look at everything through feminist goggles.
@creedkind
www.clarkprosecutor.org/html/domviol/facts.htm
How Many Men are Domestic Violence Victims?
Men are victims of nearly 3 million physical assaults in the USA.
How Often Does Domestic Violence Occur?
1 in 4 women will experience domestic violence during her lifetime.
www.safehorizon.org/.../...atistics--facts-52.html
Not exactly what you wrote!
It's well known that feminist facts are wrong. Also that 40% of DV reports with the police are those of men.
You should go to realsexism (dot) com to see proper facts with backed up sources.
In fact!! There have been over 200 reports over the past 30 years to show that men have consistently been victims 40% of the time by police records. But the oppression still continues...
My guess is that domestic violence against 'men' happens against children, sons included.
And not necessarily by women, rather by patriarchal dads.
I was not hard to get but impossible to get, because I always felt asexual and aromantic and I didn't want anyone.
BUT, when I suddenly fell in love, BOOM all of a sudden, I didn't play hard to get. I was like omg I want him. And now we are together.
Well I need to get this off me chest as a kid I said if if ever had a girlfriend I'd give her flowers. As a young man I fell for my friends cousins sister but never got to talk to her due to a fight i had with my best friend but much later on I had seen her in the high school I went to. Their were a lot of good looking ladies at my school but she was the most beautiful to me I thought of all types of ways to tell her how I felt but by the time built the courage to make a move my best had already been talking to her and they got together at first I was mad but I had nothing really to offer her I had bad grades I wasn't to athletic (yet) so I said nothing always regreted it but anyways My mom told me once that everyone has someone for them somewhere. just don't think there's anyone for me who knows?
yeah I'm starting to like this site. Let's see how do I feel I never was really motivated by sex. Yeah i think about it how to do it well enoghf with what little I have to make her not go to her ex. smile could do it for me playing hard to get just makes me feel she has a boyfriend or that she not interested but to little makes me think that she had like 20 exs
So let's get this straight, by you playing hard to get, you want us to chase after you. So when you say, "no", you mean "yes"... that's like rapist logic. i now understand why rape happens. god forbid this ever happening to you, or any woman ever, but if you (or a girl) gets raped, don't complain about it cause the guy assumed you were "playing hard to get".
or sexual harassment. you can substitute that in too to make it less crude.
It's is not about hard or easy, it's about finding the right guy and staying with him, also girls who are really not easy don't need to pretend to be hard to get, cause they are really like that. Many of the guys that want serious girl will uncover the truth, and the guys who want easy girl, will leave to find a girl who act accordingly to her true nature.
I have more things to spend my time on than spend it all on chasing you, either respect my time or get out.
I have no patience for women who play games like that. I would literally move on and look for someone else. I respect women who are blunt and honest with me and aren't afraid to communicate how they feel. People who beat around the bush just aren't for me.
#This
Yeah, that, beating around the bush. Ain't nobody got time for dat.
@Lonewolf_1296 agreed bro!
I'd say this is less of a useful article for guys, and more of mirror up to the face of women as a whole.
Get off the pedestal, ladies.