This is so stupid and recently I had a conversation with a young girl who's an attention whore and an older married woman saying that we men should try again and again no matter if we get signs of interest or not. Sorry sister, but we won't bother too much if you don't show any signs of interest and the answer we get is most times a cold ''No.'' at least most countries here in Europe. The only girls I have seen to be more open for a date are UK girls.
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myTake Owner
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Maybe I should change the title then you'd understand
''This happens a lot although many guys say they want woman to approach, so that they don't have to, woman do approach, and when they do, the guy repels. It turned out this particular guy wanted the chase.''
I saw a sentence on another post. I can't remember who said it but it goes something like this "if she wants to play games she can play a PlayStation or an xbox or find a fool. Not I"
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I have tried to make it hard for guys sometimes. Almost all of the time they moved on :(
This maybe worked a long time ago but not anymore.
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Yeah guys are really lazy, I'm starting not to care too much anymore because I've played hard to get, I've played easier to get, and guys are never satisfied there's way to many guys who don't respect woman, calling them out their names on here and wondering why their single, they want to take away our right to have morals, and if we complain about their behavior it's our fault, find yourself a stable alpha make, and don't get advice from betas on here who have to look up love gurus to get women
yea, i know what you mean when you say you don't care too much, i'm sorta going down that route. However one thing does bug me. Why all of a sudden do we have so many guys who don't respect women, something has obviously ticked their brains in the wrong direction. I take my dads generation of men, they were so much more respectful towards women. My dad courted my mum and showed her respect and loved her till today.
These days its hard to find a couple who love is that strong and going the distance. i have encounter guy after guy with the same red flags over and over again and wonder why so many men do this, almost like its the majority of men. That tells me something in society is not right in the way men are thinking. Well i have tried alpha males and they too show their true colors after a while. Seems like a guy who will love and respect you is like looking for a needle in haystack.
What changed with guys between your dad's generation and now is feminism. But I'm not talking about the egalitarian aspects of it, I'm talking about the parts of feminism that were focused on tearing men down with the goal of building women up. They worked too well.
Men today have lower overall status in society than ever, and many of us feel unnecessary, like we're just here to have jobs and buy things to keep the economy going. Women today don't really want men, at least not the men who are available to them. They want their *ideal* guy, but nothing else. Most guys aren't anyone's ideal. Most women aren't anyone's ideal, either, but they somehow feel entitled to a mate approximating ideal. So the end result is that most guys (80%) feel unwanted by women and eventually stop trying after so many rejections. It's just a simple Pavlovian response to our experiences in life.
How do you know if they're playing hard to get or just flat out not interested? I've been the guy to talk to a girl and get to know her for 6 months before giving up. So confusing, you say a guy needs to try harder and then I get ridiculed on here for persuing a girl for 3 weeks.
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The best way to try to figure out if she likes you is to see if she gets nervous around you! Maintain strong eye contact, and when you go up to talk to her about whatever, if she looks down, fidgets she probably likes you. If you talk to her and she can't answer back she's probably really shy. But for the outing girls, they may get nervous to, but will be more flirty and talkative, teasing, or trying to keep the conversation going. ...
A girl who isn't interested, may not care to keep the conversation going, won't be nervous, and will look at you like your crazy, if she did keep the conversation going, she was very casual about it, and to relaxed, a guys goal is to get a girl relaxed but a girl who likes a guy won't be basically talking to you like your her "bro." A girl who isn't interested won't stay around for 6 months. ...
So deep in there is the girl who likes you, She might walk away when you are staring, or dismiss it and act like she doesn't see you, she will not pretend
She didn't get your text, rather she would wait a while before texting you back, or might wait til you text again, if you text a girl who isn't interested twice in a row she will not text back ever or she will text back a day or so later saying she forgot or she was sleep, she was busy this girl just wants you in her guys like me list...
You can always keep a sober mind, & set a time limit, for reciprocating interest... When she really likes you she will not let you leave because she will realize her mistakes and see that you were really interested, so she will try to show interest again if she tight you liked her but move on, or you're too shy...
If she goes back and forth more than once after she tried to get you back, she is playing games and leave her alone
Ps. However I have not seen a girl play this game ever, some do it because they think men live to chase, if you show her you don't put up with certain things not by being rude and ignoring her but sitting down and telling her what you want...
You can make up whatever reasons you want to make yourself feel better, but your choices are your own. Don't try to blame them on men and tell us that we're the reason for all the problems in your life. That's a mark of immaturity.
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myTake Owner
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Maybe I should change the title, then you would understand
Another man-hater making excuses for not making a move... say hi to your 28 cats for me kthnx
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I am starting to hate guys... I prefer traditional and a guy who prefers traditional, I don't disagree with approaching a guy first but I'm also not going to hand anyone my heart. Just found that the guy who was flirting with me for year straight doesn't truly like me he's an attention whore and he does the same to my friends, tried approaching him... Another guy who initially showed interest I wasn't physically attracted to i liked him anyways, got to know him more and he cursed me out for a year straight. ... At least cats clean after themselves
I think I should stay off this site for a while. Seeing first hand how irrational a large portion of females are is slowly driving me to become sexist, and basically confirming the beliefs I already had after my previous relationship ended. I guess the good thing is, the more I read here, the less I will respect women which will probably make them more attracted to me, not being as nice. LOL.
i dont get that either. my sister cheats on her husband, lies to him, steals his money, abuses him, yet she gets pissed at him when he goes off (while they are on a 'break') and mess with another chick cause she's an abusive fuck. she wants to divirce him, but he won't let that happen, some chicks are bat shit crazy man. this world needs more kind mellow chicks with some damn common sense 😧
i understand this, but some girls know how to play it right, some others exaggerates and make the man who approch to them pay for approching by loosing there dignity and thats the worst thing can happen to a man. so i think not all men who give up are losers.
Playing hard to get = Waste of my/her time & Creates unnecessary drama. If there's no trust then I don't see any point of being in a relationship anymore.
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The simple answer women play hard to get is the same reason men do it, or do things like neg hitting:
They are good strategies for people trying to 'land' an 8 or higher.
They are actually not great and can backfire on average people.
But most dating advice isn't aimed at getting average people.
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That's fair but you can't expect to get a guy that will never take advantage of you and also take risks for you if you play hard to get. Guys who are actually good to women and truly care about them expect the same thing in return from the woman which rules out girls that play hard to get. You are limiting yourself only to the guys you are afraid of by doing this. Girls aren't the only ones that have standards they expect others to have. Just because he's good enough for you doesn't mean you're good enough for him.
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When a girl plays hard to get, it's like a guy knocking on the door, a 4th time to prove he really wants that person to answer, eventually that person will answer the door. It's not just take take take, it's ruling out, so he can think what he wants, I'm not looking for him either
Again you can think of it that way if you want. But know in most developed countries where dating rules apply there are less men than women and there are plenty of women that don't play hard to get. We have no idea if she will eventually answer. A lot of the time they don't. When a guy really wants a girl he lets her know and then she either takes it or not. If a girl doesn't take it the guy moves on because there are plenty of other women out there. Besides maybe he really did want you in the beginning and then you kept playing hard to get and then that desire faded. Most guys that want an honest full hearted relationship will not play these games. They want to treat a girl right who treats them right. No one wants to be with someone they feel won't treat them right. And playing hard to get is going to make them feel like you don't care about treating them right. We're humans as much as you are and we have needs as well. You're just a child excusing horrible behavior.
Girls need to work on not being easy but not being unapproachable like most are. The fact that every girl I approach just says not interested is bullshit
I think I've finally figured it out! People are not used to being asked out in person anymore, we are so used to falling for the familiar guys at school, or on social media, so get on your Facebook, add all the beautiful woman in your area and someone will respond positively, sadly I never said yes to a guy who approached publicly, simply because I haven't had time to study him, and I lack the interest to try anything, of course there are single girls who are tired of being single, and are desperate and you can probably find them in areas if you go out more depending on what's in your city
There are guys whom I gave my number publicly, at the time I was too young for them, and they text me either to late to when I forgot about them, or to early and they seemed desperate
I avoid people who play hard to get even if I was sure they liked me. My attraction vanishes the moment I realize they're playing games. It just makes them look immature, which is a big turn off.
I dislike playing games. If I am interested in you, I will pursue you. You can either respond to my pursuit or tell me to fuck off. Either way, I know where we stand.
Good points but if you're showing disinterest then why should we keep pestering you? Women tend to complain about men being persistent pests and reasonably so, and now you are encouraging this? I'm confused.
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Maybe I should change the title, then you'd have a different outlook on it.
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This is so stupid and recently I had a conversation with a young girl who's an attention whore and an older married woman saying that we men should try again and again no matter if we get signs of interest or not. Sorry sister, but we won't bother too much if you don't show any signs of interest and the answer we get is most times a cold ''No.'' at least most countries here in Europe. The only girls I have seen to be more open for a date are UK girls.
Maybe I should change the title then you'd understand
With all you posted?
''This happens a lot although many guys say they want woman to approach, so that they don't have to, woman do approach, and when they do, the guy repels. It turned out this particular guy wanted the chase.''
Biggest lie ever. I could go on and on.
This is a damn good take, girl!
"Of course I'm not impossible to get, but I am if you don't APPROACH ME"
Freakin' AWESOME!
I saw a sentence on another post. I can't remember who said it but it goes something like this
"if she wants to play games she can play a PlayStation or an xbox or find a fool. Not I"
I have tried to make it hard for guys sometimes. Almost all of the time they moved on :(
This maybe worked a long time ago but not anymore.
Yeah guys are really lazy, I'm starting not to care too much anymore because I've played hard to get, I've played easier to get, and guys are never satisfied there's way to many guys who don't respect woman, calling them out their names on here and wondering why their single, they want to take away our right to have morals, and if we complain about their behavior it's our fault, find yourself a stable alpha make, and don't get advice from betas on here who have to look up love gurus to get women
yea, i know what you mean when you say you don't care too much, i'm sorta going down that route. However one thing does bug me. Why all of a sudden do we have so many guys who don't respect women, something has obviously ticked their brains in the wrong direction. I take my dads generation of men, they were so much more respectful towards women. My dad courted my mum and showed her respect and loved her till today.
These days its hard to find a couple who love is that strong and going the distance. i have encounter guy after guy with the same red flags over and over again and wonder why so many men do this, almost like its the majority of men. That tells me something in society is not right in the way men are thinking. Well i have tried alpha males and they too show their true colors after a while. Seems like a guy who will love and respect you is like looking for a needle in haystack.
It didn't work because genuine guys don't play games anymore. If you are you are just setting yourself up for heart break
I heard guys are only like this because they always feel there something better out there then what they have.
What changed with guys between your dad's generation and now is feminism. But I'm not talking about the egalitarian aspects of it, I'm talking about the parts of feminism that were focused on tearing men down with the goal of building women up. They worked too well.
Men today have lower overall status in society than ever, and many of us feel unnecessary, like we're just here to have jobs and buy things to keep the economy going. Women today don't really want men, at least not the men who are available to them. They want their *ideal* guy, but nothing else. Most guys aren't anyone's ideal. Most women aren't anyone's ideal, either, but they somehow feel entitled to a mate approximating ideal. So the end result is that most guys (80%) feel unwanted by women and eventually stop trying after so many rejections. It's just a simple Pavlovian response to our experiences in life.
How do you know if they're playing hard to get or just flat out not interested? I've been the guy to talk to a girl and get to know her for 6 months before giving up. So confusing, you say a guy needs to try harder and then I get ridiculed on here for persuing a girl for 3 weeks.
The best way to try to figure out if she likes you is to see if she gets nervous around you! Maintain strong eye contact, and when you go up to talk to her about whatever, if she looks down, fidgets she probably likes you. If you talk to her and she can't answer back she's probably really shy. But for the outing girls, they may get nervous to, but will be more flirty and talkative, teasing, or trying to keep the conversation going. ...
A girl who isn't interested, may not care to keep the conversation going, won't be nervous, and will look at you like your crazy, if she did keep the conversation going, she was very casual about it, and to relaxed, a guys goal is to get a girl relaxed but a girl who likes a guy won't be basically talking to you like your her "bro." A girl who isn't interested won't stay around for 6 months. ...
So deep in there is the girl who likes you, She might walk away when you are staring, or dismiss it and act like she doesn't see you, she will not pretend
She didn't get your text, rather she would wait a while before texting you back, or might wait til you text again, if you text a girl who isn't interested twice in a row she will not text back ever or she will text back a day or so later saying she forgot or she was sleep, she was busy this girl just wants you in her guys like me list...
You can always keep a sober mind, & set a time limit, for reciprocating interest... When she really likes you she will not let you leave because she will realize her mistakes and see that you were really interested, so she will try to show interest again if she tight you liked her but move on, or you're too shy...
If she goes back and forth more than once after she tried to get you back, she is playing games and leave her alone
Ps. However I have not seen a girl play this game ever, some do it because they think men live to chase, if you show her you don't put up with certain things not by being rude and ignoring her but sitting down and telling her what you want...
haha wow is it really that hard to just flat out reject us
"look I don't see you that way" that's all it takes
instead we have to put up with false hope and the guys who do try feel like IDIOTS at the end
BEEN THERE DONE THAT
You can make up whatever reasons you want to make yourself feel better, but your choices are your own. Don't try to blame them on men and tell us that we're the reason for all the problems in your life. That's a mark of immaturity.
Maybe I should change the title, then you would understand
No, but a nice tall glass of "Grow the fuck up" wouldn't hurt.
Nice myTake. Not surprised by the negative comments you're receiving from the people who don't agree.
Another man-hater making excuses for not making a move... say hi to your 28 cats for me kthnx
I am starting to hate guys... I prefer traditional and a guy who prefers traditional, I don't disagree with approaching a guy first but I'm also not going to hand anyone my heart. Just found that the guy who was flirting with me for year straight doesn't truly like me he's an attention whore and he does the same to my friends, tried approaching him... Another guy who initially showed interest I wasn't physically attracted to i liked him anyways, got to know him more and he cursed me out for a year straight. ... At least cats clean after themselves
I think I should stay off this site for a while. Seeing first hand how irrational a large portion of females are is slowly driving me to become sexist, and basically confirming the beliefs I already had after my previous relationship ended. I guess the good thing is, the more I read here, the less I will respect women which will probably make them more attracted to me, not being as nice. LOL.
So having self respect and leaving when the woman is being a bitch is being "a loser"? Grow the fuck up!
i dont get that either. my sister cheats on her husband, lies to him, steals his money, abuses him, yet she gets pissed at him when he goes off (while they are on a 'break') and mess with another chick cause she's an abusive fuck. she wants to divirce him, but he won't let that happen, some chicks are bat shit crazy man. this world needs more kind mellow chicks with some damn common sense 😧
i understand this, but some girls know how to play it right, some others exaggerates and make the man who approch to them pay for approching by loosing there dignity and thats the worst thing can happen to a man. so i think not all men who give up are losers.
Playing hard to get = Waste of my/her time & Creates unnecessary drama.
If there's no trust then I don't see any point of being in a relationship anymore.
The simple answer women play hard to get is the same reason men do it, or do things like neg hitting:
They are good strategies for people trying to 'land' an 8 or higher.
They are actually not great and can backfire on average people.
But most dating advice isn't aimed at getting average people.
That's fair but you can't expect to get a guy that will never take advantage of you and also take risks for you if you play hard to get. Guys who are actually good to women and truly care about them expect the same thing in return from the woman which rules out girls that play hard to get. You are limiting yourself only to the guys you are afraid of by doing this. Girls aren't the only ones that have standards they expect others to have. Just because he's good enough for you doesn't mean you're good enough for him.
When a girl plays hard to get, it's like a guy knocking on the door, a 4th time to prove he really wants that person to answer, eventually that person will answer the door. It's not just take take take, it's ruling out, so he can think what he wants, I'm not looking for him either
Again you can think of it that way if you want. But know in most developed countries where dating rules apply there are less men than women and there are plenty of women that don't play hard to get. We have no idea if she will eventually answer. A lot of the time they don't. When a guy really wants a girl he lets her know and then she either takes it or not. If a girl doesn't take it the guy moves on because there are plenty of other women out there. Besides maybe he really did want you in the beginning and then you kept playing hard to get and then that desire faded. Most guys that want an honest full hearted relationship will not play these games. They want to treat a girl right who treats them right. No one wants to be with someone they feel won't treat them right. And playing hard to get is going to make them feel like you don't care about treating them right. We're humans as much as you are and we have needs as well. You're just a child excusing horrible behavior.
Girls need to work on not being easy but not being unapproachable like most are. The fact that every girl I approach just says not interested is bullshit
What do you usually say?
I think I've finally figured it out! People are not used to being asked out in person anymore, we are so used to falling for the familiar guys at school, or on social media, so get on your Facebook, add all the beautiful woman in your area and someone will respond positively, sadly I never said yes to a guy who approached publicly, simply because I haven't had time to study him, and I lack the interest to try anything, of course there are single girls who are tired of being single, and are desperate and you can probably find them in areas if you go out more depending on what's in your city
There are guys whom I gave my number publicly, at the time I was too young for them, and they text me either to late to when I forgot about them, or to early and they seemed desperate
Hey, it's not that we give up too easily, it's just that you're not worth our time and energy.
#SitTheFuckDown
So true man
I avoid people who play hard to get even if I was sure they liked me. My attraction vanishes the moment I realize they're playing games. It just makes them look immature, which is a big turn off.
You use the label loser with such entitlement to throw it around, does take value off your whole post.
Well you didn't read why I used that, If you aren't willing to fight for what you want then you are a loser, you must be this kind of guy. .
You're 19, not going to try to argue.
Than that makes the entire female gender "losers" I guess, because they rarely make the first move.
@BigTuna *clap clap*
But they do when they encounter rich men.
@babu_001 Oh SnAp!!!
I dislike playing games. If I am interested in you, I will pursue you. You can either respond to my pursuit or tell me to fuck off. Either way, I know where we stand.
Good points but if you're showing disinterest then why should we keep pestering you?
Women tend to complain about men being persistent pests and reasonably so, and now you are encouraging this?
I'm confused.
Maybe I should change the title, then you'd have a different outlook on it.
That won't change anything. I read your points and I'm still confused.