7 Reasons Why I Dislike Women Who Believe Guys MUST Pay On The First Date

[Anonymous]

This is a response to this MyTake here actually.

Anyway, I mean those who believe, the guy MUST do it, and if he doesn’t then it’s the #1 deal-breaker. If I learned that a woman is like that, then it would be the #1 deal-breaker for me.

And before we start, yes I’m a thrifty guy (you call it cheap), and I’m very proud of it.

(In alphabetical order)

1) Chances are she likes gentleman guys

You know she will demand from you, to pull her chair when she’s about to sit, to give her your jacket if she feels cold, to open the door for her, and all those things. Paying for the dates is one of those gentlemanish traits.

2) It's Not Only The First Date

Do you really believe it will stop only on the first date? I don’t think so. If in case you say, I will pay what I eat and you will pay what you will eat…well chances are you will receive a slap on your face.

3) It smells traditionalism

Traditionalism smells worse than a drunk’s person fart, to put it bluntly. Those are the women who prefer gentleman guys and also the guys who have lots of money. A traditional woman will be a stay-at-home mom for sure in the future. And of course she will demand from you to have sex after you get married. Not to mention, she wouldn’t like to know you, if in case you don’t want to be married and have kids. To those kind of women, the biggest success in life, is to have a family. Stay away from those women, if you respect yourself.

4) She's After Your Money

To her, guys must have a bigger wallet, than a bigger…well you know what. The other’s size doesn’t matter for her. As long, as he can reproduce of course.

5) She might comment on your dressing code

I don’t think such a woman, would ever accept you being dressed casually. You must wear suits and ties, every time of the year.

6) She wants the man to buy her everything she wants

She likes generous guys. Those guys who are nothing more than her puppet actually. Those blind fools who fell for such a woman, and buy her everything she wants, when she laughs behind his back.

7) She will comment about your friends

Do you really believe she will ever let you to have friends from lower society classes? No you must have friends from the good, high society only, and only those who are gentlemen too.

[dragonfly6516]

I don't think it's fair for guys to always have to pay. If it's a first time meeting up like this, then you should both pay for yourselves. What if someone has a horrible time, and then has to pay on top of that? It would suck.

If you already knew each other, and are taking the lunge to ask them out, them whomever did the asking should pay. HEY LADIES: You wanted gender equality, so this applies to you! It's now acceptable to ask a guy out and take HIM on a date!!

Once you've established that you want to go out again, or even put a label on it, take turns paying for the date, or splitting it. Cooking counts as buying dinner, and maybe the other party could do dishes, or help.

[steven7890789]

Most women aren't like you, most want equality when it benefits them. I am glad you are different. You are like my girlfriend.

[Unit1]

I agree 100%
I LOVE YOU!!!
We need more ladies, who have common sense like you :)

[martyfellow]

@steven7890789 Equality ONLY when it benefits them...

[Kirah]

Wow, that women was so sexist (@takenchic). It actually makes me somewhat angry.

It's 2016, just split the bill unless one person clearly has less money. And sure, you could say things like "whoever invites, pays". But that's not equal, because women still won't ask men out, so they won't end up paying anyway.

[steven7890789]

Exactly. You are a great woman. I applaud you for not being a hypocrite when it comes to gender roles.

[Kirah]

@takenchic fixed your mention.

[Paul09]

Thank you!

[MrPresident]

Ahaha i went on a date and she paid, i didn't have money on my wallet xD.
It was only two drinks but i felt a little bad.

[Bandit74]

Lol This has been such a hot topic on gag this past week.

I am tempted to write a take too 😅

[Afrochick]

ME TOO LOL

[Junlian]

@Afrochick me too.

[FashionQueen86]

I'm actually tired of seeing. Both men and women are taking turns on this. This will never be solved.

[Junlian]

@FashionQueen86 to late, I did a take already, check it out if you want. Wait... But your tired of it. Ok.

[myTake Owner]

Do it man. It will be a sure hit, trust me. I knew such a MyTake would make it big -unlike the music-related MyTakes I write mostly-, so do it.

[FashionQueen86]

@Junlian Yeah, I'll pass.

[RainbowFanGirl]

Me too.

[Relentless_Hippie]

I suppose I will address each one of your points separately.

1. It's gentlemanly. Yeah, I think so, but what is wrong with having an appreciation for guys that are gentleman? A gentleman is loving & respectful of the woman he is with. There's no way being a gentleman is a bad thing. To me a person who isn't a gentleman is someone who sleeps around, someone who is mean, abusive, negative. Someone who yells and puts down their partner, never shows affection and disrespects them. Why would anyone want to be with someone like that?

2. My boyfriend and I split dating costs all the time. Sometimes I treat him, sometimes he treats me, other times we just take care of our own costs. Paying for the first date doesn't mean pay for everything including my mortgage. Like what kind of logic is that?

3. Traditionalism. What's wrong with that? A traditional woman to me possesses traits like kindness, warmness of heart, nurturing, loving, intelligent. A traditional woman to me is sweet and a pleasure to be around. Not vulgar and abrasive.

4. I could care less about your money, but I'm certainly not going to be dating someone who has done absolutely nothing with your life. I don't mind helping a man build. I helped my boyfriend get his very first job at my job, and for a good while I paid for things. But I'm definitely not dating someone with no ambition in life.

5. It's perfectly fine to dress casually. I don't expect anyone to wear a suit and tie everyday of their lives but I also don't want him not combing his hair, showering, ironing his clothes etc. I had to comment on my boyfriend's attire at one point. I try to look good for him so he could feel good about being with me, I'd expect the same thing. It shows you care and are putting in effort, at least the same efforts that I am.

6. I want quality time with you more than anything else.

7. If you have bad friends you have bad friends. I want what's best for you, a woman who doesn't love you would care less. by the way. Social class and quality of person are to different things. Class is irrelevant to whether or not you're a good human being.

Also having a family is one of my greatest goals and I'm going to school for nursing. You can be traditional and still work. There's such a thing as a working housewife. I grew up in a very distant, broken and dysfunctional family. I want nothing more than to provide children with a home filled with love and care like they're deserving of.

[myTake Owner]

For me you are traditional and nothing more.

[Relentless_Hippie]

Lol you say that like it's a bad thing.

[myTake Owner]

For me it's one of the worst. And SCARIEST.

And traditional women don't use "lol".

[Relentless_Hippie]

So what is a traditional woman to you?

[myTake Owner]

A woman who stays at home all day, say yes to everything her husband says, and ask her husband's permission, even if she wants to go to the toilet.

Plainly... pathetic.

[Relentless_Hippie]

Hmm, we have different idea of what traditional and housewife mean.

[RainbowFanGirl]

Okay, so after doing some thinking, I've came to a conclusion of how I think about this topic.

One gender should not be obligated to pay for the other gender. One gender is not entitled TO having their meal paid for on the first date. BUT when you do decide to go the extra mile and pay for their meal, you should be doing that because you LOVE and CARE for the person, not because of bullshit excuses like "it's traditional" or "it's the gentlemanly thing to do.

That being said, whoever invites who out should pay for the meal. That or splitting the bill is the way to go in my honest opinion.

P. S. Take Owner, don't hate an entire gender just because some of them are bad apples.

[myTake Owner]

I never said I hate an entire gender.

[RainbowFanGirl]

The title is that you dislike women. :P

[myTake Owner]

Those kind of women particularly, not all.

[Gommers]

The public school system fails another youth.

[rjroy3]

I read your MyTake the other day. I'm glad you came to that conclusion *cheers*
Now to get you over the "whoever invites the other pays route". Lol

[tyber1]

You probably don't love a girl if you're only on a first date

[RainbowFanGirl]

@Gommers Lol I am so sick of you always messing with me.

[RainbowFanGirl]

@rjroy3 Thank you so much. I'm working on a take on this topic as well. I'm gonna post it this weekend. :)

[RainbowFanGirl]

@tyber1 I know. Which is why after the first date the two people involved can switch back and forth.

[Kirah]

"That being said, whoever invites who out should pay for the meal. That or splitting the bill is the way to go in my honest opinion."

I hear this a lot from women, but that's only because women aren't generally expected to make the first move.

[RainbowFanGirl]

@Kirah some do though. :P

[Kirah]

@RainbowFanGirl I know, I make the first move all the time. But most women still don't. I still get weird looks when I tell a friend "why don't *you* ask him out?".

[Paul09]

I agree. Well except for the love and care part. You can't love or care for a stranger. The rest , I agree with you. It is 2016, not 1800's.

[Ozanne]

Good christ, who in the world have you been dating to come up with "she will demand from you" and "you must wear.." and this one: "chances are you will receive a slap on your face"?

Demanding, forcing, slapping... wow! You have been dating assholes. I would try talking to a girl first before the actual going-out part so you get a vibe whether or not you're going to be spending time with someone abusive.

[Anonymous]

I would go on a date with a guy i liked and if he didn't pay, whatever. If he does offer to pay im not going to turn it down though. Its just a kind gesture for your lady friend, it doesn't make or break anything. What breaks it is if the guy acts as though his money is too good or too important to spend on me. If he doesn't have it (or if he dpes have it but needs it for more impprtant things than a date) thats one thing. But if he is against paying just because he thinks im not good enough to pay for then what does that say about what he thinks of me?

[girlinthemirror]

lol, u call urself cheap and u even proud of it... u also so shallow! u can call urself pussy-what girl would want to date a pussy?
girls need a MAN and real man have no problem to pay for girl on date.
1st it act of politeness -u invited her-u pay...
2nd -u show her u interested in her

usually on the 1st date no one eat a lot... i have no problem to pay for my coctail and salad, but never any man i was on date with let me do it...
my boyfriend on the 1st date even told me "dont worry about money-u can order whatever u want

if i ever met a girl like and he asked me to pay- i ll pay no problem, but it would be the last time he sow me

[Bobbyhill1]

i agree with the you invite you pay thing but you are 27, why do you type like this?

[girlinthemirror]

@Bobbyhill1
type like what... u r 20, but ur brain like 2 years old cryin baby

[Pilulu]

He means why u type like this.
You dont use the word you, you just use the letter. And you're supposed to be 27.

[girlinthemirror]

@Pilulu
if u dont like my typing-then go and smash urself of somthing heavy, lol, maybe u will feel better! I type how I WANT TO TYPE!!!

also, r u so bitter bcoz u ugly fat cow?)))

"Lets face it, I have a lot of flaws. I'm
chubby (with an unattractive body type-apple)
weird hair
ugly face
weird, unfeminine voice

unlikable
shy
socially awkward
uncomfortable to be around
unintelligent
I look angry/upset/depressed
clumsy
overly sensitive
easily annoyed
and I'm super weird
how do I fix these problems? And none of that,"you're beautiful the way you are," crap."

lool, i can't imagine how it is to be ugly and u r ugly and so biiter fat hoe

[Kirah]

It's easy to say "you invited her so you pay", but how often have you asked a man out? Probably ZERO times. But hey, don't come crying to me when you can't find a good man.

[girlinthemirror]

@Kirah
"But hey, don't come crying to me when you can't find a good man." loool, and who r u for me to come to u, if i may ask?
if u can't find a good man, doesn't matter everyone can't too! thats just ur problems! and if guys never pay 4 u, its just ur jealousy, not more!
i dont need to find a good man, i am married one and expecting a baby from him. And what do u have?

[Puppylove94]

Perfect. I wouldn't ever be interested in dating a guy like you anyways. You seriously just sound lazy.

I'm cheap too- but I know that some things you spurge on.
I do like tradition and I do appreciate a gentleman.
I never make a guy pay for me. They offer it. It has nothing to do with the amount of money in his pocket, we could go get coffee for all I care. It's the gesture. I end up offering to pay for him down the road too. when you're in a relationship, both should end up spending the same amount.
IDC about what a guy wears
I don't need a guy to get me whatever I want- I'll buy my own things.
I would never comment on his friends unless I felt threatened or maybe targeted.

[Polocrew]

And she send noods to 35 yr old married dudes too lmao

[myTake Owner]

What matters in your case, is to learn to take pictures. All the pictures you uploaded so far, makes you look like a puppy... exactly.

[Puppylove94]

Why does that even mean? Lmao

[steven7890789]

So you want gender roles that only benefit you to stop?

[Puppylove94]

@steven7890789 it's not only benefiting me.

[Kirah]

You like tradition? So you spend all day in the kitchen, being subservient to your husband and cooking for him? And you abstain from voting too, right? You should get off the internet, traditional women don't get to voice their opinions without their husband speaking for them.

You're traditional when convenient, nothing more. There's a term for that: you are sexist.

[Kirah]

@Puppylove94 but the roles ARE benefiting you personally.

[Puppylove94]

@Kirah that's bullshit. a traditional woman doesn't have to be someone stuck in the past, things are still evolving. Beig traditional means spending time with your family and being a stay at home mom. I don't do it when it's convenient, I do it when it's possible. If my future husband needs my salary to pay the bills, il have a job. I don't need to be subservient to be traditional

[myTake Owner]

"You should get off the internet, traditional women don't get to voice their opinions without their husband speaking for them."

That's exactly what I mean.

And very "traditional" eh? A traditional girl, who uploads pictures with silly Snapchat filters, and making stupid smiles? Don't make me laugh...

Gosh, I'm anti-traditional and even I, I discard those instagram, Snapchat, etc shit. And you embrace them? You the traditional one?

[myTake Owner]

And traditional people never smile at pictures. You don't even know how to behave like a traditional one, yet you call yourself a traditional one. Call yourself neo-traditional better... it suits you.

[123cheesecake]

Hey OP, just coming in here to point out that whilst I agree with your my-take, your perception of what 'traditionalism' is does not apply to anyone. Nor does it HAVE to apply to anyone.

What you're essentially doing is dictating HOW a person should live and act as if they have no choice, same thing with race- its like saying 'YOU can't CALL YOURSELF Asian IF YOU DONT EAT RICE 4 TIMES A DAY AND KNOW ALL THE TRADITIONAL ASPECTS OF YOUR CULTURE DOWN TO THE MINUTE DETAILS" For a supposedly modern person- you're utterly close minded.

Seriously, its like people somehow think modern means utter flexibility, and that traditionalism is a rigid concept that SHOULD BE what it was on the past and only that. Sorry, people grow and adapt, there will be aspects of traditionalism that some people can uphold- and choose their partners on the basis of the qualities they not only believe in BUT practise.

[123cheesecake]

FYI, my reply does not mean that I 'OMFG HATE ALL MODERN LIBERAL DUMBASSESAOHASDHFASNDFASDF" ; Contrary I have friends that do one night stands whilst I myself believe in the old tradition of waiting for marriage for sex. The reason for our compatibility as friends are not solely due to our lifestyle, but our ability to understand and compromise each other's lifestyle. In short, we do not attack each other. We do not pigeon hole people into boxes like some boxes. We do realise that one person's take on traditional will vary either due to cultural differences or the ways of upbringing. It is POSSIBLE to blend both aspects; contrary to your narrow minded statements.

Please, stop being a bigot.

[123cheesecake]

@Puppylove94 I dont think its possible for them to see your point. They've already constructed a pre determined biased which pigeon hole people into boxes. Seriously, something as petty as using technology is now considered to be an attack on traditionalism? Thats like saying Asians that visit McDonalds to eat a burger is no longer Asian just because they do not eat rice. It is utterly pathetic.

[myTake Owner]

@123cheesecake I wrote a whole MyTake about it. I wonder how many among those traits Puppylove94 follows.

www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a31162-a-lesson-for-neo-traditional-women-this-is-what-traditional-woman

Just curious Puppylove... how many days can you live without internet?

[123cheesecake]

You missed my point completely.

My argument was no one should determine how one person lives. You cannot pigeonhole people in a box that YOU determined; who the heck are you to tell people what they need to do?

Its not a black and white thing, its more of a spectrum. Obviously some people like the colour red more than blue. But just because someone prefers the hue of bright red over the dark red or the hue that the red commonly associated as 'the textbook red' does not mean they like the colour any less, or that they do not "truly" like the colour at all.

Look, puppy and I are 'traditional' to some degree. Everyone possess a 'traditional trait' to some degree, others just lean to it more than others.

[OatsnWhey]

It shouldn’t be expected, but if invite anyone out perio, I’ll pay for their drinks or whatever. I think it’s just general comm0n courtesy. Last weekend I took out all my boys from my the police academy I went to and we went bar hopping... I paid for a;l their drinks; Yeah I spent close to $e00 that night but I actually have money now so it was nice that I could treat them all and we all had a good time. And dude, you have to be able to feel women out. If they’re a hoe and just want that dick... fuck paying for them. If you got yourself a nice respectable girl in whom you have interest for... then stop bitching and just pick up the damn tab. It’s really not a big deal.

[OatsnWhey]

$400 **

And a lot of other typos... but I’m on my iPad and got huge hands lol. Thinkvyou get the point

[martyfellow]

You're mixing up definitions of 'traditional.' There's nothing traditional about gold diggers and opportunists who play both sides of the fence.

It's wrong to attack family orientation, which is a totally different subject from the Take you're criticizing.

[Rissyanne]

This is very simple. When you go out on a date... just simply tell the waiter to split the check. If she gets pissed... well you will know she is one of those girls you dont want and get up and leave. Why can't you do that?

[Stacyzee]

You're stereotyping a woman based on your ability to put forth a kind gesture and pay? I find you making huge assumptions off of something that should be very small.

[Kirah]

It should be very small, but people (men AND women) are making a huge deal out of this for some reason.

It's 2016, split the bill, move on.

[Touchmehxx]

@Kirah exactly

[Loadedgamer]

Lol women getting triggered for saying his opinion is hilarious.

[nog6422]

He's not stereotyping based of his actions. He's stereotyping based on girls' expectations of what he should do.

[youknowitt]

Then don't date her 😂 Damn. Plus, you're shaming the way her parents brought her up. Date a "modern" girl... Like shiiieet. You make traditionally raised girls sound ignorant as fuck.

Also all your points go either way, doesn't matter if you're a woman or man.

It really shouldn't matter who pays on the first date. If you're going out with someone you care for and love in one way or another... In that case, money isn't a problem.

[tyber1]

What is all this talk of love on a first date?

[arineunha]

from what you said you believe that women who believe guys must pay on first date have high expectations, no that's not always the case. I understand we all work for our money so it might seem unfair but the man who doesn't make an issue about this, is a man who i'm willing to be with. love is love, who cares who pays- we help each other out

[LadyTerror]

I already read the original take and thought it was shit.

I read this one expecting a good comeback but this one is shit too.

[Anonymous]

There is nothing wrong with her looking for a guy who is willing to pay for dinner and nothing wrong with you looking for a girl who wants to pay half. Nobody is wrong there. The point of dating is finding someone who has the attributes you are looking for... it's not so much the gesture as what the gesture says or what the other person takes from it. We are all looking for something different.

[Opinion Owner]

I am extremely thrifty as well. I still find a way to do what I want and do for the people around me I just find best affordable ways to do it and get super creative sometimes.

[anonman32]

lets put it like this, if i am cheap for not wanting to pay for a womans food then women who want me to pay for their food are cheaper than me.

[Anonymous]

Yea this paying thing is getting out of hand. No guys should be obliged to pay. If he does thats amazing and if he doesn't well thats it thats fine too

Women shoud expect both outcomes and be ok with it

[Canterbury_Bellz]

I would definitely offer to pay my half. I felt like expecting the guy to do so is ridiculous. If he offers to pay for me then I want to know that he's doing so because he wants to do it for me and not because he feels obligated to.

[Loadedgamer]

That shows interdependencewhich is a good thing in a relationship

[PG1997]

So you just don't think it's possible that there's a smart, independent girl out there totally capable of paying both your shares of dinner who would just like to be bought her first dinner because it's nice?
I'm all for gender equality, I just don't like being the inside spoon while cuddling. Take of that what you will.

[Anonymous]

Unfortunately I have been suckered into paying expensive dinner for a few of these of women. What's even more disgusting is one complained about "equal rights" during our conversation. Ladies never EVER bring up feminism on a first date ESPECIALLY if the man is footing the bill.

Fortunately my current girlfriend is like this at all. Whats even more shocking is that she is very young (21). However she was raised in Asia and taught to respect GOOD men. Western feminism is a disease.

[Polocrew]

Lmfao I mostly just pay whenever I am hanging out with anyone, Guys or chicks ima bang or whoever. For dates I usually go same restaurant, order same meals and most waitresses know me there too lol not because I wanna be gentleman or sjit lmao its usually just to rub in their face (people I hang out with) how rich I am lol