I don't mean to be judgmental, but whenever I see a woman who request all this stuff it makes me think that she's just another woman who expects men to do all the work. It's exhausting.
I don't expect any of it... that's why I wrote "hope" with all of them.
I don't want to make him do it- but if he does it cause he WANTS to, it means a lot. I dont expect a lot in a relationship, I'm actually very low maintenance. But I've recently learned how to determine if a guy likes you, vs if he doesn't
That's very respectable actually. This is what most men want. We don't mind doing these things for women but if she "expects" it or even "demands" it, it really comes across as spoiled and inconsiderate. Us guys on here give women a lot of shit but we're just looking for that girl who's willing to put in as much effort as we are. Including the initial dating process.
look that s how I ve been brought up too in lebanon this is sort off the norm really and you re not a "man" if you don t do some of those stuff. of course each country has different expectations and culture
These are all good except... I'm so shy when it comes to approaching a girl 😔
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1 doesn't have anything to do with a "good guy". doesn't matter who approaches who or doesn't. simple ex. sex drives many men to seduce women. how do you think they do that? by being what you want - temporarily.
good night text doesn't mean much. there is articles upon articles on mens dating to text her after the date or not too. once again - absolutely nothing to do with a "good guy".
infact all these are far too simple. you dont know a person till youve lived with them for a year. even still people marry and still dont get each other.
i heard a very accomplished financier say. wait 5 years.
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these things only tell you one thing and thats that the person likes you or likes you more and that the person is capable of understanding societies expectations (which have nothing to do with success, because 50% of marriages end in divorce) why they like you? doesn't say.
I agree with all of these and practice all of them. Truthfully I have questioned for a couple of years the first one but you explaining the reason helps my understanding. Thank you.
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I find it really heart-warming that you genuinely appreciate these chivalrous gestures.
If more women were like you, chivalry wouldn't be dying. America needs more women like you. 😃💜
As a single dad... my dating days are over. Also don't have the time , money & inclination , also due to my situation , I have a very low " market value " , well aware of that !!
I would urge you to reconsider this Jack... I too am a single dad, pretty broke and near your age... but I never got so much pussy since my divorce. Because I reinvented myself and made myself highly desirable. Your value is what YOU deem it to be... so decide you're the shit, and women will believe it. It's like tinkerbell: Believe you can fly and you WILL FLY.
Aww Lol cute. Tbh I feel the same when it comes to this.
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If it wasn't for feminism men would still do all of these without hesitation. Now its more equivalent to rolling the dice (6 possibilities) as to how badly she will be offended.
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1950's girl right here. Its so convenient to play the feminist and privilege card when it suits them. I hate women
Impossible. Trying to do a balancing act will almost never work. "Equality" will result in the greatest inequality of our generation. So far while its helped certain areas of society it has also taking away things from dating and relationships that most of us are feeling. In my humblest of opinions... it is impossible to do both effectively. Men and women share a balance which scientists and philosophers have yet to comprehend and there is no way that it can be equated. A collapse in this system will eventually come... might take years or even decade, but it will come. True equality is accepting the fact that men and women integrate together to form a whole and creating Independence on both sides for men and women will result in a breakdown or morality and will be followed by "oddity" in the human race. Look around you... the worlds morality is sinking and sinking fast. Most will think i'm talking garbage... so be it. You can't win everyone
Enough men show these qualities therefore I know if I keep my expectations the way they are, ill find one. I plan on teaching my son/sons how to treat women like this too of course. It may be declining, but you're just making it decline faster by not treating women right.
Only me, look at how many men are not treating women. I used to work in the special forces about 4 years ago and i can tell you the world out there is far more sick than you girls know. The rape, the violence against women, the selling of women, etc... is through the roof... its just not reported in the media. I've seen it with my own eyes. Every year it gets worse. The whole concept of equality is flawed. Men and women are not the same and if society equates them... things decline far faster than you think. I want to help women, but i am just one guy facing ruthless thugs and men. I'ts great you teach your kids that... i respect that. Why do you think over the years that equating men and women has resulting in intense gender hatred online and in real life? I mean if equality was really better would the relationships be more respectful and loving... instead you have increases in cheating and domestic violence... marriage in decline and divorces higher than ever. I mean think about it
Which is becauseo of men not treating women right. In the past 100 years, feminism has caused men to completely back off which I disagree with. I do think women should have rights- but it's currently been taken to an extreme that is not okay.
I think that if people would just treat people the way they want to be treated, the world would be a much better place.
"I think that if people would just treat people the way they want to be treated, the world would be a much better place." - i completely agree with you here. But it just cannot work when you equate men and women.
"Which is becauseo of men not treating women right. In the past 100 years" - You know i actually hate those men that treated women like slaves, it was really pathetic. BUT we have to take the good from those days. Like men and women shared a balance, a balance that brought us together, yes the terrible acts against women from the past should never come back, i would hate to even raise my voice to a women. Women can be the best part of a mans life... not just sexually, but as a friend and partner. BUT it cannot work if men and women are INDEPENDENT from each other. THERE has to be some dependency to create that respect, else relationships and respect for each other will crumble. There is beuaty in the fact that men and women are different, should we choose to acknoledge that.
Thank you, i never meant to offend you. And just for the record, i have a girlfriend, that does open doors and takes her for dinners and i do my best to show her my love, she is sweet to me and i don't mind helping her with everything she needs. I text her when she most needed me and i love to the ends of the world. I am at heart a gentleman. There are guys out there... you will find him. All the best :)
@Puppylove94 " feminism has caused men to completely back off " , sadly yes , to protect themselves from a " harassment " or worse accusation. Many men also believe that women are adversarial towards men due to this toxic social engineering , very sad really !!
right.. you want the ASSETS of equality but want to hold onto the ASSETS of inequality @Puppylove94 That's not "traditional" or anything else, it's really actually just selfish, and entitled...
@FatherJack 100% true. Feminism has ruined social dynamics to a large degree... including between/among women. It's harmful to everybody and actually DISempowers women-teaching them they're superior and that they should EXPLOIT men, which is relying on them, not standing on their own as it pretends.
It is, however, a sick disturbing trend that males these days don't feel much if this is necessary or even standard. If I ever have a daughter I will impress upon her the importance of this (and, of course, much more).
All good only one I have qualms about is paying for first day and less slightly about guy approaching, girls can approach too.
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Your expectations are decent. Some girls have shitty high expections with things like height, that the guy has to be at least 6 feet tall, I cannot stand those type of girls.
Literally all of these things can be gender reversed. Why aren't I entitled to the same respect/interest/whatever when we're in the exact same situation?
You can have your preferences, just don't try to sell it to me like it's a "fair" position for women to take -- and if you're saying this is a rare attitude that just applies to you then that's fine; you're allowed be a dick to people if you want.
They said it was "normal," not fair. *One* said it wasn't sexist, which could be taken to imply it's fair. But even if they all said they were okay with it, that doesn't make it fair.
nope, you cannot judge by this take alone, look at the site overall, and the internet overall, women are far more sensitive to small things and its you who are overly emotional and the word "triggered" where mainly used to describe feminists for a reason.
@alphadoggystyle damn right. "triggered" is just a buzz word stolen by feminism. it's about self importance and entitlement... a hijacked concept now used as a tool of female narcissism. "TRIGGERED" refers to a trauma, ie PTSD or C-PTSD, not just any opinion that scrutinizes your position lol.
lol these guys are so funny. They're allowed to desire thin women with huge boobs and a nice butt but as soon as we want a guy who is financially stable and treats us right we are considered sexist. Get out of here lmaoooo
You know good and well that if the roles were reversed that women would also be getting butthurt. Many feminists have said a man fulfilling those roles is a misogynist so thats why a lot of men are conflicted as to what to do because either way, women don't approve.
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Lol u call that high exceptions.
That just normal stuff lol
Who u been dating?
Lol just look at the other comments...
I don't mean to be judgmental, but whenever I see a woman who request all this stuff it makes me think that she's just another woman who expects men to do all the work. It's exhausting.
I don't expect any of it... that's why I wrote "hope" with all of them.
I don't want to make him do it- but if he does it cause he WANTS to, it means a lot. I dont expect a lot in a relationship, I'm actually very low maintenance. But I've recently learned how to determine if a guy likes you, vs if he doesn't
That's very respectable actually. This is what most men want. We don't mind doing these things for women but if she "expects" it or even "demands" it, it really comes across as spoiled and inconsiderate. Us guys on here give women a lot of shit but we're just looking for that girl who's willing to put in as much effort as we are. Including the initial dating process.
look that s how I ve been brought up too
in lebanon this is sort off the norm really and you re not a "man" if you don t do some of those stuff.
of course each country has different expectations and culture
These are all good except... I'm so shy when it comes to approaching a girl 😔
1 doesn't have anything to do with a "good guy". doesn't matter who approaches who or doesn't. simple ex. sex drives many men to seduce women. how do you think they do that? by being what you want - temporarily.
good night text doesn't mean much. there is articles upon articles on mens dating to text her after the date or not too. once again - absolutely nothing to do with a "good guy".
infact all these are far too simple. you dont know a person till youve lived with them for a year. even still people marry and still dont get each other.
i heard a very accomplished financier say. wait 5 years.
these things only tell you one thing and thats that the person likes you or likes you more and that the person is capable of understanding societies expectations (which have nothing to do with success, because 50% of marriages end in divorce) why they like you? doesn't say.
lol im talking about the initial stages and if he is interested in you on the first couple dates. you're talking more about love.
I agree with all of these and practice all of them. Truthfully I have questioned for a couple of years the first one but you explaining the reason helps my understanding. Thank you.
I find it really heart-warming that you genuinely appreciate these chivalrous gestures.
If more women were like you, chivalry wouldn't be dying. America needs more women like you. 😃💜
Just like you, I love a good gentleman.
Well done on your take. 👏
Agreed. These things seem like a gentleman thing to. And gentlemen are good!
As a single dad... my dating days are over. Also don't have the time , money & inclination , also due to my situation , I have a very low " market value " , well aware of that !!
I would urge you to reconsider this Jack... I too am a single dad, pretty broke and near your age... but I never got so much pussy since my divorce. Because I reinvented myself and made myself highly desirable. Your value is what YOU deem it to be... so decide you're the shit, and women will believe it. It's like tinkerbell: Believe you can fly and you WILL FLY.
@feminismisnarcissism yeah well jack seems nice but you just seem like a straight up asshole. Now please stop spamming.
spam requires redundancy and off-topic posts. I've done neither. I'm sorry you don't like my opinions.
@feminismisnarcissism reundancy? YOUVE REPEATED YOURSELF 100 TIMES. you've literally commented on this just as much as i have. now leave.
As you should. I see nothing wrong with this. Try not to let people here (at least the negative ones) get to you.
Aww Lol cute. Tbh I feel the same when it comes to this.
If it wasn't for feminism men would still do all of these without hesitation. Now its more equivalent to rolling the dice (6 possibilities) as to how badly she will be offended.
1950's girl right here. Its so convenient to play the feminist and privilege card when it suits them. I hate women
females and males should have equal rights in the workforce
However I'm traditional when it comes to dating and being in a relationship.
It's just like separating work from play.
Impossible. Trying to do a balancing act will almost never work. "Equality" will result in the greatest inequality of our generation. So far while its helped certain areas of society it has also taking away things from dating and relationships that most of us are feeling. In my humblest of opinions... it is impossible to do both effectively. Men and women share a balance which scientists and philosophers have yet to comprehend and there is no way that it can be equated. A collapse in this system will eventually come... might take years or even decade, but it will come. True equality is accepting the fact that men and women integrate together to form a whole and creating Independence on both sides for men and women will result in a breakdown or morality and will be followed by "oddity" in the human race. Look around you... the worlds morality is sinking and sinking fast. Most will think i'm talking garbage... so be it. You can't win everyone
Yeah morality is sinking... along with your ability to show you care for someone you're in a relationship with. I feel sorry for you.
and so are many more men... looks like my theory is working ;)
Enough men show these qualities therefore I know if I keep my expectations the way they are, ill find one. I plan on teaching my son/sons how to treat women like this too of course. It may be declining, but you're just making it decline faster by not treating women right.
Only me, look at how many men are not treating women. I used to work in the special forces about 4 years ago and i can tell you the world out there is far more sick than you girls know. The rape, the violence against women, the selling of women, etc... is through the roof... its just not reported in the media. I've seen it with my own eyes. Every year it gets worse. The whole concept of equality is flawed. Men and women are not the same and if society equates them... things decline far faster than you think. I want to help women, but i am just one guy facing ruthless thugs and men. I'ts great you teach your kids that... i respect that. Why do you think over the years that equating men and women has resulting in intense gender hatred online and in real life? I mean if equality was really better would the relationships be more respectful and loving... instead you have increases in cheating and domestic violence... marriage in decline and divorces higher than ever. I mean think about it
Which is becauseo of men not treating women right. In the past 100 years, feminism has caused men to completely back off which I disagree with. I do think women should have rights- but it's currently been taken to an extreme that is not okay.
I think that if people would just treat people the way they want to be treated, the world would be a much better place.
"I think that if people would just treat people the way they want to be treated, the world would be a much better place." - i completely agree with you here. But it just cannot work when you equate men and women.
"Which is becauseo of men not treating women right. In the past 100 years" - You know i actually hate those men that treated women like slaves, it was really pathetic. BUT we have to take the good from those days. Like men and women shared a balance, a balance that brought us together, yes the terrible acts against women from the past should never come back, i would hate to even raise my voice to a women. Women can be the best part of a mans life... not just sexually, but as a friend and partner. BUT it cannot work if men and women are INDEPENDENT from each other. THERE has to be some dependency to create that respect, else relationships and respect for each other will crumble. There is beuaty in the fact that men and women are different, should we choose to acknoledge that.
I agree with you
Thank you, i never meant to offend you. And just for the record, i have a girlfriend, that does open doors and takes her for dinners and i do my best to show her my love, she is sweet to me and i don't mind helping her with everything she needs. I text her when she most needed me and i love to the ends of the world. I am at heart a gentleman. There are guys out there... you will find him. All the best :)
Thanks you too 😊
:) :) ;)
@Puppylove94 " feminism has caused men to completely back off " , sadly yes , to protect themselves from a " harassment " or worse accusation. Many men also believe that women are adversarial towards men due to this toxic social engineering , very sad really !!
right.. you want the ASSETS of equality but want to hold onto the ASSETS of inequality @Puppylove94 That's not "traditional" or anything else, it's really actually just selfish, and entitled...
@FatherJack 100% true. Feminism has ruined social dynamics to a large degree... including between/among women. It's harmful to everybody and actually DISempowers women-teaching them they're superior and that they should EXPLOIT men, which is relying on them, not standing on their own as it pretends.
Yes, women are such hypocrites. Well done for hating women.
Great Take. I love all of the points and I love doing them. If I'm with someone I ensure she feels as appreciated and thought about as I do.
It is, however, a sick disturbing trend that males these days don't feel much if this is necessary or even standard. If I ever have a daughter I will impress upon her the importance of this (and, of course, much more).
All good only one I have qualms about is paying for first day and less slightly about guy approaching, girls can approach too.
Your expectations are decent. Some girls have shitty high expections with things like height, that the guy has to be at least 6 feet tall, I cannot stand those type of girls.
Those are physical attributes they find attractive... I wouldn't say that's an expectation
Yes it is, because they expect the guy to be at least 6 feet tall or they won't date him.
It's like guys saying we want at least breast size X please. lol
Literally all of these things can be gender reversed. Why aren't I entitled to the same respect/interest/whatever when we're in the exact same situation?
im not arguing with you. we all have our preferences and these are things i expect in dating someone. I'm not dating you- you dont have to like it
You can have your preferences, just don't try to sell it to me like it's a "fair" position for women to take -- and if you're saying this is a rare attitude that just applies to you then that's fine; you're allowed be a dick to people if you want.
It is fair to believe this. A lot of men think this way anyways.. just look at the other comments.
They said it was "normal," not fair. *One* said it wasn't sexist, which could be taken to imply it's fair. But even if they all said they were okay with it, that doesn't make it fair.
It is because women are selfish lazy,, have zero respect for men and think they are all princesses.
All the while you letting Chad go balls deep while you figure out if you really like him.
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uhh no?
Lol you should him the chads that you match with on tinder
@Chico_brah what? Lol
The possibly short chad with the facial aesthetics.
@Chico_brah ahhh his name was Cory lol and yeah right... the guy in the gif is 10x hotter.
He's like my dream guy 😍
I liked this. However, you know how the guys are on here. They'all get triggered no matter what you say. :) It's inevitable.
Hahah agreed 😬
Ready to take the heat 💪🏼
its women who always get triggered by the smallest things, dont get it twisted :)
@alphadoggystyle lol no... just read all of the comments from the guys.
nope, you cannot judge by this take alone, look at the site overall, and the internet overall, women are far more sensitive to small things and its you who are overly emotional and the word "triggered" where mainly used to describe feminists for a reason.
@alphadoggystyle damn right. "triggered" is just a buzz word stolen by feminism. it's about self importance and entitlement... a hijacked concept now used as a tool of female narcissism. "TRIGGERED" refers to a trauma, ie PTSD or C-PTSD, not just any opinion that scrutinizes your position lol.
Lmao ^ triggered some men
lol these guys are so funny. They're allowed to desire thin women with huge boobs and a nice butt but as soon as we want a guy who is financially stable and treats us right we are considered sexist. Get out of here lmaoooo
You know good and well that if the roles were reversed that women would also be getting butthurt. Many feminists have said a man fulfilling those roles is a misogynist so thats why a lot of men are conflicted as to what to do because either way, women don't approve.