When Hollywood first opened up, it focused more on talent than looks. Physical appearance has become much more obsessed over in the last 10-15 years with HD cameras, smart phones, and image-based social media platforms such as Instagram, Facebook, and Snapchat
I think the US 2010 girl represents the average American. Since Playboy is American, I'd assume the Playmate is closest to the ideal image of what men prefer in a woman
Accept it, don't be insecure about it, and go after short girls because we need love too
There's a guy who works in the next department over from mine who's conventionally attractive and works out. I only realized today that he's only a couple of inches taller than me (I'm 5', he's probably 5'3"). He seems to have a good personality and the people he works with get along well with him. Some tall girls might not like him, but he's quite a catch
Another guy I work with who's 5'4" has a taller girlfriend
One of my good friends is only 5'3", obese, and ugly, but he's never had a problem getting girls because he treats women very well, is a great person, intelligent, and has a decent job (he makes really good money, but doesn't flaunt it like a douchebag). His roommate is the same height and has a hot, taller girlfriend
Height is an advantage; being short isn't a death sentence. A short guy with a good personality is more attractive than a tall guy with a bad one
Wark Davis and Vern Troyes are small, I bet checks are all over them, because they're minted. Henri de Toulouse-Lautrec got plenty of rump, "Tripod", that's what they used to call him, abnormally short legs, abnormally large, erm, middle stump, not that they play much cricket in France.
If you care to actually read my post, you'll read where I mentioned that people do have preferences. This MyTake focuses on biological hard wiring that transcends preferences
I am no more a god than anybody else, including you. But I do have people who worship me, so that's close enough
A lot of the things you mentioned I agree with. But you are the victim of a HUGE myth concerning men being the more visual-based sex and women the more personality/based sex lol. And tall men have an advantage? Don't you mean "taller" men?
Science has proved men are more sexually aroused visually than women. Men and women's brains register erotic content at the same rate, but women also register pictures of children at the same rate while men don't. Yes women have eyes and do check men out as well, but men spend more time checking women out, on porn websites, and looking at other people while in relationships. It's also been scientifically proven that advertisements with sexual content do not increase a woman's possibility of purchasing the product and that the sexual content is so overwhelmingly distracting for men that they forget what the product is
I'm only 5 feet tall, so everyone is taller than me. I've only been romantically attracted to 2 men in my life, one average height and the other 6'7". I thought the first was more attractive even being shorter (they looked similar otherwise). The second became my (ex) boyfriend and the height difference was difficult, but I really liked it when he picked me up
CANNOT agree with that research there! Many women hide their feelings for a weird reason as I know! Opposites attract differently, but equally. Millions of women would not be on dating websites and dressing provocatively or being manipulative had it not been for their sexual desperation. You're not fooling me. I live in the same world! Im watching!
Women are on dating websites because they want to develop relationships with men they already know they have something in common with rather than to waste time with people they don't. Women dress provocatively because it provokes men. If women were as visual as men, you'd see just as many men dressing provocatively to attract women. But women aren't provoked by men dressing in skimpy outfits, women are more provoked by men wearing well-tailored clothing and suits because that shows class and that a man takes care of himself
"Hysteria" is the medical term for female sexual desperation. Doctors invented vibrators for that. Many women never develop hysteria and don't masturbate while almost all men do. Manipulative behavior is common among both genders and a sign of immaturity and selfishness
LOL How wrong are you? I've seen and heard completely different. If that's the case then opposites DO NOT attract lol! And we both know that isn't the case. Oh well maybe your past negative experiences with men is why you're probably trying to offend them. I can understand.
You can deny science all you want, but I speak from a scientific and factual basis. Playboy is still popular today and an American classic while Playgirl was a very short-lived money sink because men are more visual than women
I'm not offending men. Women are auditory, so hearing a sexy man's voice is our equivalent of you seeing a scantily-clad woman. Men have a higher sex drive than women from 15-25 (sometimes -30) when they're most fertile and women have a higher sex drive than men in their 30s to try and get pregnant one last time before menopause and the end of fertility. Hysteria is most common in 25-35 year-old women who were never married or widowed
If you don't believe me, you're welcome to go study the science of sex and attraction
Not true of course. You're generalizing all women/men again! I wouldn't hear of even one, yet alone many, girls/woman masturbating multiple times/day and desiring a boyfriend for sexual purposes at such young ages if that were the case lol.
And whatever you're trying to do it isn't working! I'm sure you'll find it offensive if I told you that men are't as emotionally or personally invested in women as vice vera. Or that men are not multi-orgasmic or aren't as sexual as women. And neither are really the case lol.
Girls who grow up without father figures around or who are molested at young ages masturbate and look for sex at younger ages than those who grow up with father figures around. So yes, scientifically you would still hear of that
1/3 or 28% of porn viewers are women, 2/3 or 72% are men. 20% of men watch porn at work, 13% of women do. Men are 543% more likely to watch porn than women and spend longer watching it. 64-68% of young men view porn once a week while only 18% of young women do. Women are more likely to read smut novels such as 50 Shades Of Grey because it works on our auditory senses
WRONG again lol. I've heard/read differently. Fake facts and #s. And if women are as such then there should be 0% masturbators and 0% porn viewers! If there are reportedly few there are many! If I'm as auditory and emotional, then all other men are as well. If one or few woman is as visual, then all others are as well.
... in other words, I should't hear of even "one" woman watching more porn or have a higher sex drive then her man at any age (and I've heard many different ages) if they were less visual or sexual in comparison. If one can be, many can be.
That's ridiculous of you to think that way. The majority of women do not watch porn because they're not visual. The majority of men do watch porn because they are visual
Saying all women masturbate because one woman does is like saying all people are serial killers because one is. You're not using a scientific or logical theoretical basis here. I have never masturbated or watched porn and do not ever intend to do so. I don't check men out when I'm walking through the grocery store yet still get cat-called by men when I'm walking through Wal-Mart at 3 AM because guys are visual and women are not
All of my facts are real. I've seen them plenty of times before on plenty of different platforms. More men are addicted to porn than women and you can't deny that fact
Sex drive isn't related to being visual or auditory. Sex drive is related to hormones. Men have more testosterone, giving them higher sex drives in general. Men and women have different sexual primes
I'd figured you'd say that. But that analogy is nonsense lol. Serial killing is entirely something else LOL!! We are all "potential" killers but many know better.
... and first you said "not as" visual. Now you're saying "not" visual. Funny
Anyway I completely disagree with your "so-called" research/facts concerning human sexuality. The world of attraction is FAIR. This research is commonsensibly LAUGHABLE!! If men really are deemed more visual, it is probably because woman appear better looking thanks to there make-up or this gynocentric society portraying mostly women on dating advertisements and magazines. Flip the script and we'll be having the same, but opposite, conversation.
That's a perfect analogy. Everyone is capable of killing, but not everyone is capable of being a serial killer. The specific brain abnormality of serial killers is most common in white men, so most people who are not white men are not capable of becoming serial killers. And even then, white men who have this brain abnormality who do not witness trauma still aren't at much risk of becoming serial killers
Saying all women masturbate, are visual, watch porn, and want to have sex is nonsense. Men have been paying prostitutes for thousands of years because women don't want to have as much sex as them. Male prostitutes are much less common and their clientele is also largely male
You're really going to be that childish and pick semantics? You trolls really can't get your arguments together to save your lives
Women are visual, not auditory, so no, women are not as visual as men--it means the same thing
Go find your own statistics if you want to prove me wrong
You are upset at men I can clearly tell. I'm not affected because I've heard and seen the truth. Oh well I can only wish you the best and that you find the right SO.
I am not upset at men. I am upset at my ex because he cheated on me, but I'm not blaming all men for his transgression. He was a victim of being visual and cheated on me because of it. Now he's the one who's miserable because I refuse to take him back and he has self-destructed because he misses me. But I'm moving on from him and am less angry every day. Soon I won't have any thoughts of him at all
I will find the perfect man for me someday. He will be mature, faithful, and love and respect me as I do him
And women cheat for the same exact reason. So what does that make them?
Yes I finally made you admit! I knew it! F**K that bastard! Most men including me are faithful and not as visual as society has made you believe otherwise. Find a cuter, better guy!
Women don't cheat for the same reason. Men cheat because they want to feel satisfied sexually. Women cheat because they want to feel satisfied emotionally. Most women cheat with men they used to be involved with to regain that spark and emotional connection they're missing with their current partner while men generally cheat with younger girls they have no history with to give them something exciting and new
If you actually read MyTake, you'd know my ex cheated on me. You didn't make me admit anything because I've already said it. I know most men are faithful, that's why I don't go around claiming all men are cheaters like the guys on here claim all women want is to take their money and children (even though they've never been in a relationship themselves). I was mostly over my ex until I ran into him last weekend. He looks like shit and I think he's back on drugs. It made me angry that he tried to get back with me after trying to blame everything on me when I broke up with him
Damn I can only hope you're wrong. Don't you hope also? Either men are less visual than perceived or women are more visual than perceived lol. One way or the other, most are both the same sexually and emotionally. Trust me. If you believe in the God, you would know the world of human attraction is "fair". He would never unbalance attraction to hurt men or women. The differences are actually individual and not gendered.
I never said the differences in attraction were unfair. The whole point of this MyTake was to point out the main differences in how men and women find each other attractive in order to help people better understand what they need to do to attract the opposite sex
Men are visual and women are auditory when it comes to sexual attraction. Yes we use all of our senses and individuals vary, but this is the basis we all start with until society, parents, and life changes us. But this is the best way for men and women to be attracted to each other and it wouldn't work well in a different way
If men weren't visual, they'd all be gay; if women didn't desire protection and being provided for, we'd have no interest in men. In that kind of world, the human race would die out in a flash and no new generation would be born
LOL I can't believe you don't notice how wrong you are! That would be unfair! Do you realize how many relationship problems would exist had this difference in visual and emotional cue among the sexes existed? (And yes these problems don't exist, just compatibility problems). And you just stated the opposite. Biologically we are similar sexually but society has caused the confusion.
I'm not wrong at all. I've studied the differences between male and female arousal and romance extensively. I understand the science behind it quite well. Men and women are completely different because our brains our different. If men and women were the same, there would be no money to be made off dating advice and sites like this wouldn't even exist
We really aren't similar sexually at all. Our organs are completely different, the way we get turned on is completely different, even the way women want to cuddle after sex and men want to fall straight to sleep and distance themselves (because their brains make them want to) is completely different. Men perform better during morning sex and to relieve tension while women at night and to increase emotional bonds. We are completely different, but it's all fair because that's the best way for society to function and a new generation to be born
Very contrary to what I've heard. You are only speaking from your perspective lol. You don't speak for all females. Differences are individual not gendered. And you are lying about your study!
**Consider this: I would't be offended if this is normal. Understand that? In other words, if men are offended hearing this, then it's because this isn't right! We shouldn't be offended if you are right!
I was called to this thread to check It out. I don't have time to read this extremely long thread but I did see the part where it said rich men are attracted to small breasts, what makes you think that this is exactly the way it is asker?
This explains that men are more visual than women in scientific terms. I do in fact know what I'm talking about and being rude and offensive is not going to convince me that you're reliable sources of proving anybody wrong www.linkedin.com/.../women-visual-sex-dr-maureen-whelihan
I didn't say men were more sexual or desperate. If you actually open your eyes and read, you'll see where I pointed out that men and women have different sexual peaks. Desperation is individual, but desperate men emit a hormone that repels women, making desperate men worse than desperate women. Men tend to have higher sex drives due to testosterone and are more willing to engage with multiple partners due to their brains compartmentalizing sex from emotion in a way women's don't
There is no offense given on my part. I use scientific facts for all of my opinions. You're the offensive ones to insult me
You insulted me by accusing me of not knowing what I'm talking about. It's been scientifically proven that rich men prefer smaller breasts and poor men prefer them larger
First of all that is no big deal at all, why are you so offensive over nothing? I disagree with you and yet you take it as I insulted you I don't think so. You read one link and you think it scientifically proven that rich men like smaller breasts? I don't think so. I've made plenty of money in my life and I don't like small little breast. I like medium sized breast. I'm not going to waste my time clicking on your links. A link here and there proves nothing
It's an insult to go around accusing people of not knowing what they're talking about. I base all of my opinions on scientific evidence and facts
I didn't come to this conclusion by reading a single link. It's a scientific fact that rich men prefer women will small breast while poor men prefer women with large breasts. If you remind a poor man of his socioeconomic status while measuring his preference, he will raise it by a cup size. I read that somewhere else, but can't remember where exactly. Many studies have been done on the subject and that was the first link I found on Google. Your denial proves nothing except ignorance
LOL. I'm suuuuuuure you're veeeery rich. My ex was pretty rich too, but he started out poor. He tried to claim he liked small breasts, but mine are pretty big and he seemed fascinated enough with them. You can have whatever preference you think you have
Your statements prove nothing but ignorance. that's not true make a poll on this website and see for yourself. You're way way too cocky and I believe you
Oops It got sent to soon. I mean I don't believe you. Don't keep mentioning me in this thread I am going on a short trip and I don't have time for this. I'm not going to be around to answer you back to defend myself
My statements are correct and based on scientific facts. Polls on this site aren't scientifically accurate nor do they represent the norm of society. If you want to prove my facts wrong, then go find a legitimate study that disproves them
You're the willfully ignorant one here and you can't change reality due to your denial
If you don't want people to reply to you, then don't go around replying to them first. This is my thread, not yours. You replied to me first, so it's your responsibility to not reply to me if you don't want me to mention you. I didn't tag you out of nowhere or hunt you down. You're the one going around my thread falsely accusing me of things
It's fine if you don't believe me, but your misbelief is on you, not me. I base all of my opinions and statements on scientific facts. And if you're not prepared to find scientific facts to counteract my points, you're just being rude by falsely accusing me of being wrong
Don't listen to those links and others like them! Use your own judgement. I mean tell me what goes through your mind if or when a gorgeous man was naked or half naked in front of you? Don't lie to me. Lol
Most men have preferences, but are okay with any breast size. If you read MyTake, you'll see where I made those distinctions
I don't care about gorgeous men. I'm not interested in hookups or one-night stands. I need a man to prove that he respects me before I have any interest in him. Most gorgeous men are egotistical, self-obsessed, pricks, so I'm not the least bit interested in them. And I dislike nudity. I much prefer it when people dress well rather than stripping down and exposing themeselves
@Iron_Man Hopefully she is! Like I asked her below on this post," I wonder how women would feel if I told them that men are not as emotionally or intimately devoted to women? Only mostly physically sexual."
@Iron_Man Enjoying It SERIOUSLt? I am despising this. How mentally tiring arguing with her it is about this and offensive it is to hear that women aren't as attracted to men physically then vice versa! That's not enjoyable to read.
Tagging me in a mention. I don't want to fool with this girl anymore. Dude you brought me in here I said what I've said and I can't block her because she keeps mentioning me but if you block her it ends right now. I don't want to fool with this girl because she's going to get me upset and then she's going to report me for losing my temper and I don't want to get my account suspended as a master. I spent years here and she's not worth it
You're always dragging me into these type of heated discussions by sending me links and tagging me and leaving me little comments in private message. I come in here and back you up and you take off and don't say a word and now you come in here and instigate and you're looking for drama while you're having your popcorn and laughing. You're using me to fight your battles for you. I know how you are from all your post and by the way we talk in private message. This is the last time my friend that I allow this from you. No more. I came in here for you that's the only reason I came in here because you wanted me to come in here. After all of this you can't even clean it up
I came in here and took over and you did nothing when I told you I was going on a trip then you come in here and you mention me and you do nothing on your own
I'm not wrong in my opinions because I base them on facts. If you don't believe the research I base them off, that's on you, not me. There are exceptions to every rule, but I base all opinions on facts
Male brains can compartmentalize sex from emotion in a way that female brains can't, so yes men are less emotionally invested in sex than women. Especially since sex releases the love hormone Oxytocin in women, further developing attachment
But since people are individuals and all have differences, you will always be able to find exceptions to rules. This study shows that only about 6 in every 100 brains are completely one gender because most people have a slight mix of masculine and feminine qualities
Oxytocin is released in both genders after orgasm. And both experience a disinterest in sex and a refractory period after (only if her orgasm is clitoral). Men are very emotional. I know I am.
Yes it is released in both genders, but much more strongly in women than men. With male brains being able to compartmentalize sex from emotion, they can have much less emotional sex if they want to
Some men are emotional, but most aren't, partially due to genetics and partially due to societal upbringing. On the contrary, more women are emotional than not, making women in general much more emotional than men
Oxytocin causes disinterest in your partner sexually temporarily. And "they" is a generalization once again! Gender doesn't matter but rather the individual. Visual or not. Emotional or not. Sexual or not. Those findings are inaccurate.
Not all people feel the need to distance themselves from sexual partners, mainly only people with insecure attachment types. People with secure attachment types become closer with oxytocin
Yes I use "they" as a generalization because "they" refers to the majority here--the majority of women and the majority of men. Science has concluded that most men are like men in relationships and most women are like women in relationships
Women produce more of this hormone, although it’s not clear why, and this means they are more likely to let their guard down and fall in love with a man after sex.
Women produce more of this hormone, although it’s not clear why, and this means they are more likely to let their guard down and fall in love with a man after sex.
"Women produce more of this hormone although it's not clear why, and this means they are more likely to let their guard down and fall in love with a man after sex"
"The problem is that when a man has an orgasm, the main hormone released is dopamine--the pleasure hormone. And this surge can be addictive," Says Dr. Ghosh "That's why so many more men tend to suffer from sex addiction"
Even more interesting, perhaps, is that despite oxytocin being present in both women and men, it seems that women have a lot more opportunities than men to experience this feel-good chemical
So yes women experience more oxytocin released during sex than men because women experience more oxytocin release during non-sexual acts than men
ALL THOSE ARE INACCURATE!! LOL!!! Oh well that last part was adorable awww 😃😃. I would love to bond with her too after sex with all that oxytocin. So sweet.
But funny how that contradicts the notion: "Men need sex for love. Women need love for sex." Lol
All of those are accurate and no amount of your denial will change that. It's clear you're sorely misguided as you can't find even one study to contradict anything I've given you
You guys are still going at it and I am still getting notifications from you two. Why don't you guys put an end to this fast? Just put the gloves on and come out swinging and end it once and for all. I want to see a clear cut winner here
"Men want sex more often than women at the start of a relationship, in the middle of it, and after many years of it," Baumeister concludes after reviewing several surveys of men and women. This isn't just true of heterosexuals, he says; gay men also have sex more often than lesbians at all stages of the relationship. Men also say they want more sex partners in their lifetime, and are more interested in casual sex.
And as for you last link, the key is in the wording
The survey, touted as the biggest, anonymous independent research on "digital youth" about sex ever, found that more women than men thought sex was essential, with bisexual and gay women making up the winning numbers.
Bisexual and gay women make up the winning numbers
Are you interested in a gay woman?
More young women and teens (who this study used) are gay or lesbian than in previous generations. Gays, lesbians, bisexuals, and generally everyone under the LGBTQ umbrella thinks about, talks about, and has sex more than heterosexuals. I studied this as well as had serious conversations with members myself on the subject. Gay and lesbian women tend to be more visual than heterosexual women
But this isn't about what you "believe" and this isn't about individuals, especially not individuals who are outliers of the norm. This is about how men and women differ on a fundamental level. If they had "gay nad lesbian" women making up the difference, that is statistically significant and greatly affects the results. Furthermore, you're looking for a straight woman who is interested in you and I'm a straight woman who is only interested in men, so the visual-ness of non-straight women isn't what we're talking about here. When you add lesbians into the study you're using for this study, it doesn't work for this argument
I don't have a laptop right now so I can't post anymore links, but I know I posted a link on one of your comment threads somewhere that showed even lesbian women didn't have the same reaction as men physically to erotica and that women who claim to be visual still aren't scientifically stimulates as much as men are, so persona testimony isn't accurate
I posted that second link because it isn't good for either gender to withhold sex in a marriage. Your link doesn't prove anything. That is an individual experience and we're talking about genders as a whole, not outliers. You can't find a study saying more husbands withhold sex than wives because we all know it's wives that do and husbands complain because that have higher sex drives
You posted an irrelevant link yourself, so don't complain about my response to it
You're using articles that take studies out of context. The original studies say men are more visual than women and the new findings don't prove otherwise, only help better understand human sexuality
I've already proven men are much more visual than women due to fundamental differences in our brains structure. Any future denial from you is will full ignorance. You may consider getting yourself mentally evaluated for firmly believing things that aren't true
Well your links also don't have backup data. And women withholding sex more than men has nothing to do with drive, but rather risk of pregnancy. There are countless women I've heard that are visual and that have higher sex drives than their partners. Yes straight women.
And that other source that states that the addictive hormone dopamine is released mainly only in men is DEAD wrong! It is released in both sexes and the amount depending on the individual. That female doctor is throwing offenses on purpose.
Those studies are accurate and those doctors aren't wrong. The fact you don't have anything to prove me wrong only further proves me right
It is a fact men as a whole are visually stimulated while women aren't. And the women who claim to be as visual as men are scientifically proven to not be as visual as men, and are therefore exaggerating their visuallness
Men are more likely to cheat than women
Men experience mainly dopamine released during sex while women release mainly oxytocin
Any further denial on your part could possibly be delusion. These facts are not intended to offend, so the fact that you take offense to facts is a sign that something is wrong with you or just that you're incredibly immature
Lol. I've been bored with this discussion for a while too
You can complain about notifications all you want, but sometimes I log in to more than 100 notifications and daily have 10-20 mainly from trolls. There's just no point in blocking that many people and I don't give in to bullies
Then he needs to stop acting like one if he doesn't want to portray himself that way. He's free to personally disagree with me, but saying I'm wrong and that my facts are inaccurate when I've proven the same thing over multiple sources is being a delusional, argumentative troll. If he can't accept that the facts don't fit into his delusions, then he needs to see a psychiatrist and get some professional help. This has gone past reasonable debate and discussion and has turned into a blatant denial of facts
@Iron_Man Exactly. I just have this gut feeling that women like her are trying to offend men - that they are clearly not into men intimately like we are into women. And that is basically what she is trying to do!
You're further proving my points with those articles. The first one even points out the disparity between between men being able to compartmentalize sex and women needing more emotion. Now you're back tracking on everything and only proving you're a hypocrite
Erotica is meant to be erotic, so saying that erotica is erotic doesn't prove anything. If erotica wasn't erotic, then nobody would have sex and procreation would come to a standstill. Men and women's brains register erotic images at the same processing speed, the difference is that men are more turned on than women at these images, spend longer looking at them, actively seeking out material such as pornography more than women, and also are more likely to become addicted to the material
Some women like dick picks, but the vast majority don't. Just because a woman is turned on by the picture doesn't mean she's ready or wants to have sex with you and has nothing to do with wanting a relationship
Saying women aren't visual has nothing to do with nudity or dick picks. I don't think you understand what it means to say women aren't visual
All it means is that women are less likely to be turned on by strangers than men, are scientifically proven to not have as much blood flow to the genitals when viewing erotica as men, and that the majority of women need to get to know a man at least a little bit before sleeping with him. It doesn't mean that women are blind and it doesn't mean women are incapable of viewing erotic content as erotic
20% of women are visual or claim to be so. Women who claim to be as visual as men have been scientifically proven to be visual, but still not as visual as men or as much as they think they are. These visual women that I've met in my own experience tend to cheat more because all they want to do is sleep with hot guys and don't care about or respect relationships. Science proves men cheat due to strong visual urges and women for emotional reasons
Like I've heard before, being sexually visual and/or lusting for the opposite sex is considered a form of weakness. Many women, such as you, take advantage of this myth to be excused from such situations. But no more. Men and women need each, and so they are no different. At least in this category.
Well I don't know if you're lying or delusional. But if you want me to post a bunch of links that say otherwise, I can do that. If we aren't supposed to believe the links I posted, why should we believe yours? Or if we are supposed to believe the links you posted, why shouldn't we believe mine? See what I mean? Why are my links lies and yours aren't? Lol
Because we've already had this conversation and there's no sense in beating a dead horse
Your links use the same studies I've used, but misconstrue the results. The study that says women and men identify erotic material at the same rate wasn't published to say women were visual. The other part of that study said women also identify images of children at the same rate while men do not. Furthermore it did not say women were turned on by these erotic images, only that their brains identified them as erotica. Identifying erotica is not the same as being turned on (unless you're a visual man who gets turned on by erotic visuals)
The other studies you use aren't general population studies, so they're not effect samples. Using a sample of largely homosexuals does not represents heterosexuals, and therefore isn't relevant to this discussion
Your links are inaccurate. We're using the same studies. I'm using the original conclusion and you're using someone misconstrued version of it. The reason why your links are more recent is they are nt a part f the original study. When using the same study, it is more reliable to use an original article fully explaining the correct results, not some recent one that came to its conclusion like a bad game of "Telephone"
You are wrong. It is a fact that men are much much more visual than women. Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself at this point
Your mentality shows how shallow you are. Society isn't nearly as shallow as you. Society cares about personality and emotion as well. You're the one hung up on being fat with no intentions of improving your health
As a whole society is shallow but individually people are usually quite deep. If there is no emotional connection there is no future and most people know that.
You already have the personality that you speak about--it's called having a huge ego. And no most women don't hunt down guys with a ton of money are large penises. Most women marry men of average income and average size. Many women even dislike large penises because they make sex uncomfortable for them
I got both and I'm also athletic. But I was born an INTJ and had ugly extroverts kick my ass in the dating world when I was younger.
For while I would get pissed off and frustrated at women for passing me up for some average looking douche bag who has nothing going for him other than he is "funny". But I realized my problem was that I was judging women by thinking they think the same way I do, but they don't. I don't like how they think , but they just don't. I have to accept that and so do you.
I then realized women not only enjoy humor but they like CHALLENGE. They want a confident guy to approach them but they also want to chase him afterwards.
So I started getting numbers, but I would hold back a few days afterwards to contact them. It is absolutely incredible the difference I could hear in women's tone of voice if she has been expecting me to call for a few days (worried I forgot about her) vs. just another typical dude who calls her the next day. Google corey wayne.
Not at all. I'm an extremely stable person. I can hold down a job, pay all my bills on time and financially support myself, have a reasonable sized friend group, can communicate properly with people, and put responsibilities before play
I don't hide crazy because I'm not crazy. I've been diagnosed with depression, insomnia, and OCD. Those are fairly generic disorders, easily treatable, and I maintain mine fairly well. I am sane
People who work like functional adult. LOL who doesn't? Is the real question. If you don't have enough money to visit a psychiatrist, then what would you do if you broke a leg or crashed your car and insurance didn't cover it? Adult work, make money, and save money for necessary expenses
I haven't been to a psychiatrist in several years. My mother forced me to in order to try and get them to give me some sort of diagnosis and medications for her to brainwash me with. They said I was mentally healthy and can function well in school and social settings, so I don't need any medications. I am stable
@razor97 LOL. Don't get so full of yourself here. I've never reported any comment that I've ever seen online, including yours. If your comments have been reported, that's because somebody else has seen how rude and offensive you've been. Don't blame me for getting your comments reported when you act like that
@razor97 I haven't reported any of your comments--somebody else reported you for being offensive because you are. You've called me enough names here that anybody can see you've been offensive enough to report you. Don't pride yourself so much in thinking you've evoked that kind of response from me because you haven't
You're an insecure, unhappy, little kid who has nothing better to do than harass people online who disagree with you. You're not worth me blocking or reporting
you called me names too, you started this, you called me bitter boy because i like to stay away from the crazy society. you said that loneliness is misery... which is not, maybe for you, but for me, it's the best thing that ever happened. i am not "harassing" you, you're a bitch by the definition, and i am trying to make you ashamed of you nasty comportment, you're arrogant, ignorant and really really dumb!
@razor97 I told you that you were being offensive because you have been. But I did not report you, so you can stop wining about it and go waste your time trying to find the person who actually did
I haven't called you names. It's clear in the way you write that you're very bitter about being bullied and girls not being attracted to you. You are miserable because nobody pities you and you can't see that you're lonely due to your terrible personality. You harass me everytime you comment on one of my posts, tag me in someone else's, or call me incorrect names. By definition, I am not a bitch. You will never make me feel ashamed because I have done nothing wrong or disrespectful--that is your own doing. I am confident, not arrogant; I am open-minded, not ignorant; I am really, really smart, not really, really dumb!
The more you continue this, the more you prove me right
You are an extremely bitter and unhappy little boy. Happy and non-bitter people do not force their misery onto other people or call them (especially false) names. It is clear that you are in denial of reality based on your naive and predictably jaded beliefs and misconceptions about life, people, and especially women. You're going to find yourself running straight into a brick wall with your disrespect and terrible personality
re·tard·ed rəˈtärdəd adjective less advanced in mental, physical, or social development than is usual for one's age informal offensive very foolish or stupid "in retrospect, it was a totally retarded idea"
Once again, you are describing yourself and not me.
You're trying to force your jaded beliefs on me. You've told me before you're trying to start a war because you want everyone to think the way you do. You can't just go around flip-flopping and being hypocritical like that and expect people to take you seriously
You already told me you're unhappy because women don't pay any attention to you and people pick on you at school. No amount of denial is going to convince me otherwise, especially since you've already admitted it
Nothing about me is retarded. I know that for a fact because I was tested after my brother's diagnosis. I don't have anything in common with the autism spectrum and I am physically normal and healthy
@Returnoftheswole
Well this conversation has degenerated to petty insults, so yes I do have to talk about myself to clear up the wrongful accusations
i didn't say that i am going to start any war, i am not forcing my beliefs on others. that's your faulty logic. if i would want to change their beliefs i would try to make them my friends and convince them, or become a very smart leader... but this is not what i want, what i want is pace and anyone who wants to violate my intimacy and personal life should suffer i didn't said that women don't pay attention to me, i said that colleges hate me because i'm ugly and i can't get laid because of this, but i don't care what other people think, they are the problem after all this is the reason i avoid them. and i'm a lot happier alone, which means that i don't need them at all. you proved me and other people how degenerate you are. you are unable to think. tests aren't even 70% accurate, your arrogance is showing, you even claimed to be smart. you're not smart, even your username is a contradiction, fuck off
You said you wanted to wage a war get peace from it. You;re trying to force your beliefs on me--you've even admitted it. You aren't capable of making friends, so that plan wouldn't work for you even if you tried. You don't become a leader by forcing yourself onto people--you become a leader when people choose to follow you of their own free will
I haven't violated anything related to you yet you've been harassing me for over a month now--that absolutely fails your imbecilic claims. You've said women don't pay any attention to you since the start. Colleges don't like you because you're uneducated and can't write in complete sentences or with proper grammar. Again I don't approve of casual sex, so you're not getting any sympathy from me for not getting laid--go use your hand for something other than harassing people online and complaining about your life
I'm much more intelligent than you'll ever be. My username is no contradiction as I had no username when I signed up
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Lol@ the discussion centering around attraction in Hollywood or wherever "these days"... where the hell have you been for the last seventy years, OP?
And the "US 2010" girl in the pic above is fat. Hope she's not seen as "ideal," 'cause she isn't to me for sure.
When Hollywood first opened up, it focused more on talent than looks. Physical appearance has become much more obsessed over in the last 10-15 years with HD cameras, smart phones, and image-based social media platforms such as Instagram, Facebook, and Snapchat
I think the US 2010 girl represents the average American. Since Playboy is American, I'd assume the Playmate is closest to the ideal image of what men prefer in a woman
What do you do if you don't have the height? It's pretty-much impossible to change at the current moment.
Accept it, don't be insecure about it, and go after short girls because we need love too
There's a guy who works in the next department over from mine who's conventionally attractive and works out. I only realized today that he's only a couple of inches taller than me (I'm 5', he's probably 5'3"). He seems to have a good personality and the people he works with get along well with him. Some tall girls might not like him, but he's quite a catch
Another guy I work with who's 5'4" has a taller girlfriend
One of my good friends is only 5'3", obese, and ugly, but he's never had a problem getting girls because he treats women very well, is a great person, intelligent, and has a decent job (he makes really good money, but doesn't flaunt it like a douchebag). His roommate is the same height and has a hot, taller girlfriend
Height is an advantage; being short isn't a death sentence. A short guy with a good personality is more attractive than a tall guy with a bad one
Wark Davis and Vern Troyes are small, I bet checks are all over them, because they're minted. Henri de Toulouse-Lautrec got plenty of rump, "Tripod", that's what they used to call him, abnormally short legs, abnormally large, erm, middle stump, not that they play much cricket in France.
@Bezbozhnikustanka
LOL I don't know who those guys are, but some famous short guys are Kevin Heart and the dwarf who played Tyrion in Game Of Thrones
No offense but I easily disagree with this lol!!! I thought you were too smart to know that everyone has different preferences.
Are you a god?
... but I do agree with many of course lol
If you care to actually read my post, you'll read where I mentioned that people do have preferences. This MyTake focuses on biological hard wiring that transcends preferences
I am no more a god than anybody else, including you. But I do have people who worship me, so that's close enough
LOL!!!
A lot of the things you mentioned I agree with. But you are the victim of a HUGE myth concerning men being the more visual-based sex and women the more personality/based sex lol. And tall men have an advantage? Don't you mean "taller" men?
Science has proved men are more sexually aroused visually than women. Men and women's brains register erotic content at the same rate, but women also register pictures of children at the same rate while men don't. Yes women have eyes and do check men out as well, but men spend more time checking women out, on porn websites, and looking at other people while in relationships. It's also been scientifically proven that advertisements with sexual content do not increase a woman's possibility of purchasing the product and that the sexual content is so overwhelmingly distracting for men that they forget what the product is
I'm only 5 feet tall, so everyone is taller than me. I've only been romantically attracted to 2 men in my life, one average height and the other 6'7". I thought the first was more attractive even being shorter (they looked similar otherwise). The second became my (ex) boyfriend and the height difference was difficult, but I really liked it when he picked me up
CANNOT agree with that research there! Many women hide their feelings for a weird reason as I know! Opposites attract differently, but equally. Millions of women would not be on dating websites and dressing provocatively or being manipulative had it not been for their sexual desperation. You're not fooling me. I live in the same world! Im watching!
Women are on dating websites because they want to develop relationships with men they already know they have something in common with rather than to waste time with people they don't. Women dress provocatively because it provokes men. If women were as visual as men, you'd see just as many men dressing provocatively to attract women. But women aren't provoked by men dressing in skimpy outfits, women are more provoked by men wearing well-tailored clothing and suits because that shows class and that a man takes care of himself
"Hysteria" is the medical term for female sexual desperation. Doctors invented vibrators for that. Many women never develop hysteria and don't masturbate while almost all men do. Manipulative behavior is common among both genders and a sign of immaturity and selfishness
LOL How wrong are you? I've seen and heard completely different. If that's the case then opposites DO NOT attract lol! And we both know that isn't the case. Oh well maybe your past negative experiences with men is why you're probably trying to offend them. I can understand.
You can deny science all you want, but I speak from a scientific and factual basis. Playboy is still popular today and an American classic while Playgirl was a very short-lived money sink because men are more visual than women
I'm not offending men. Women are auditory, so hearing a sexy man's voice is our equivalent of you seeing a scantily-clad woman. Men have a higher sex drive than women from 15-25 (sometimes -30) when they're most fertile and women have a higher sex drive than men in their 30s to try and get pregnant one last time before menopause and the end of fertility. Hysteria is most common in 25-35 year-old women who were never married or widowed
If you don't believe me, you're welcome to go study the science of sex and attraction
Not true of course. You're generalizing all women/men again! I wouldn't hear of even one, yet alone many, girls/woman masturbating multiple times/day and desiring a boyfriend for sexual purposes at such young ages if that were the case lol.
And whatever you're trying to do it isn't working! I'm sure you'll find it offensive if I told you that men are't as emotionally or personally invested in women as vice vera. Or that men are not multi-orgasmic or aren't as sexual as women. And neither are really the case lol.
Opposites attract.
... and we've heard/read about a lot of researches. And many even contradict what you're researching lol.
Girls who grow up without father figures around or who are molested at young ages masturbate and look for sex at younger ages than those who grow up with father figures around. So yes, scientifically you would still hear of that
1/3 or 28% of porn viewers are women, 2/3 or 72% are men. 20% of men watch porn at work, 13% of women do. Men are 543% more likely to watch porn than women and spend longer watching it. 64-68% of young men view porn once a week while only 18% of young women do. Women are more likely to read smut novels such as 50 Shades Of Grey because it works on our auditory senses
WRONG again lol. I've heard/read differently. Fake facts and #s. And if women are as such then there should be 0% masturbators and 0% porn viewers!
If there are reportedly few there are many! If I'm as auditory and emotional, then all other men are as well. If one or few woman is as visual, then all others are as well.
... in other words, I should't hear of even "one" woman watching more porn or have a higher sex drive then her man at any age (and I've heard many different ages) if they were less visual or sexual in comparison. If one can be, many can be.
That's ridiculous of you to think that way. The majority of women do not watch porn because they're not visual. The majority of men do watch porn because they are visual
Saying all women masturbate because one woman does is like saying all people are serial killers because one is. You're not using a scientific or logical theoretical basis here. I have never masturbated or watched porn and do not ever intend to do so. I don't check men out when I'm walking through the grocery store yet still get cat-called by men when I'm walking through Wal-Mart at 3 AM because guys are visual and women are not
All of my facts are real. I've seen them plenty of times before on plenty of different platforms. More men are addicted to porn than women and you can't deny that fact
Sex drive isn't related to being visual or auditory. Sex drive is related to hormones. Men have more testosterone, giving them higher sex drives in general. Men and women have different sexual primes
I'd figured you'd say that. But that analogy is nonsense lol. Serial killing is entirely something else LOL!! We are all "potential" killers but many know better.
... and first you said "not as" visual. Now you're saying "not" visual. Funny
Anyway I completely disagree with your "so-called" research/facts concerning human sexuality. The world of attraction is FAIR. This research is commonsensibly LAUGHABLE!! If men really are deemed more visual, it is probably because woman appear better looking thanks to there make-up or this gynocentric society portraying mostly women on dating advertisements and magazines. Flip the script and we'll be having the same, but opposite, conversation.
That's a perfect analogy. Everyone is capable of killing, but not everyone is capable of being a serial killer. The specific brain abnormality of serial killers is most common in white men, so most people who are not white men are not capable of becoming serial killers. And even then, white men who have this brain abnormality who do not witness trauma still aren't at much risk of becoming serial killers
Saying all women masturbate, are visual, watch porn, and want to have sex is nonsense. Men have been paying prostitutes for thousands of years because women don't want to have as much sex as them. Male prostitutes are much less common and their clientele is also largely male
You're really going to be that childish and pick semantics? You trolls really can't get your arguments together to save your lives
Women are visual, not auditory, so no, women are not as visual as men--it means the same thing
Go find your own statistics if you want to prove me wrong
You are upset at men I can clearly tell. I'm not affected because I've heard and seen the truth. Oh well I can only wish you the best and that you find the right SO.
Peace.
I am not upset at men. I am upset at my ex because he cheated on me, but I'm not blaming all men for his transgression. He was a victim of being visual and cheated on me because of it. Now he's the one who's miserable because I refuse to take him back and he has self-destructed because he misses me. But I'm moving on from him and am less angry every day. Soon I won't have any thoughts of him at all
I will find the perfect man for me someday. He will be mature, faithful, and love and respect me as I do him
And women cheat for the same exact reason. So what does that make them?
Yes I finally made you admit! I knew it! F**K that bastard! Most men including me are faithful and not as visual as society has made you believe otherwise. Find a cuter, better guy!
We are emotionally and sexually driven just like you. Opposites attract each other. Trust me.
Women don't cheat for the same reason. Men cheat because they want to feel satisfied sexually. Women cheat because they want to feel satisfied emotionally. Most women cheat with men they used to be involved with to regain that spark and emotional connection they're missing with their current partner while men generally cheat with younger girls they have no history with to give them something exciting and new
If you actually read MyTake, you'd know my ex cheated on me. You didn't make me admit anything because I've already said it. I know most men are faithful, that's why I don't go around claiming all men are cheaters like the guys on here claim all women want is to take their money and children (even though they've never been in a relationship themselves). I was mostly over my ex until I ran into him last weekend. He looks like shit and I think he's back on drugs. It made me angry that he tried to get back with me after trying to blame everything on me when I broke up with him
Damn I can only hope you're wrong. Don't you hope also? Either men are less visual than perceived or women are more visual than perceived lol. One way or the other, most are both the same sexually and emotionally. Trust me. If you believe in the God, you would know the world of human attraction is "fair". He would never unbalance attraction to hurt men or women. The differences are actually individual and not gendered.
I never said the differences in attraction were unfair. The whole point of this MyTake was to point out the main differences in how men and women find each other attractive in order to help people better understand what they need to do to attract the opposite sex
Men are visual and women are auditory when it comes to sexual attraction. Yes we use all of our senses and individuals vary, but this is the basis we all start with until society, parents, and life changes us. But this is the best way for men and women to be attracted to each other and it wouldn't work well in a different way
If men weren't visual, they'd all be gay; if women didn't desire protection and being provided for, we'd have no interest in men. In that kind of world, the human race would die out in a flash and no new generation would be born
Two things can be different and still fair
LOL I can't believe you don't notice how wrong you are! That would be unfair! Do you realize how many relationship problems would exist had this difference in visual and emotional cue among the sexes existed? (And yes these problems don't exist, just compatibility problems). And you just stated the opposite. Biologically we are similar sexually but society has caused the confusion.
I'm not wrong at all. I've studied the differences between male and female arousal and romance extensively. I understand the science behind it quite well. Men and women are completely different because our brains our different. If men and women were the same, there would be no money to be made off dating advice and sites like this wouldn't even exist
We really aren't similar sexually at all. Our organs are completely different, the way we get turned on is completely different, even the way women want to cuddle after sex and men want to fall straight to sleep and distance themselves (because their brains make them want to) is completely different. Men perform better during morning sex and to relieve tension while women at night and to increase emotional bonds. We are completely different, but it's all fair because that's the best way for society to function and a new generation to be born
Very contrary to what I've heard. You are only speaking from your perspective lol. You don't speak for all females. Differences are individual not gendered. And you are lying about your study!
**Consider this: I would't be offended if this is normal. Understand that? In other words, if men are offended hearing this, then it's because this isn't right! We shouldn't be offended if you are right!
I was called to this thread to check It out. I don't have time to read this extremely long thread but I did see the part where it said rich men are attracted to small breasts, what makes you think that this is exactly the way it is asker?
@Iron_Man Exactly I don't know what goes through her head saying some of these senseless things. She's got to be smarter than this lol.
She has no idea what she's talking about
@Iron_Man Yeah no way men are more visual or sexual or desparate. Highly offensive!! Differences are among individuals.
@Iron_Man @Asad1ONE1
This explains that men are more visual than women in scientific terms. I do in fact know what I'm talking about and being rude and offensive is not going to convince me that you're reliable sources of proving anybody wrong
www.linkedin.com/.../women-visual-sex-dr-maureen-whelihan
I didn't say men were more sexual or desperate. If you actually open your eyes and read, you'll see where I pointed out that men and women have different sexual peaks. Desperation is individual, but desperate men emit a hormone that repels women, making desperate men worse than desperate women. Men tend to have higher sex drives due to testosterone and are more willing to engage with multiple partners due to their brains compartmentalizing sex from emotion in a way women's don't
There is no offense given on my part. I use scientific facts for all of my opinions. You're the offensive ones to insult me
How did I insult you?
@Iron_Man
metro.co.uk/.../
You insulted me by accusing me of not knowing what I'm talking about. It's been scientifically proven that rich men prefer smaller breasts and poor men prefer them larger
First of all that is no big deal at all, why are you so offensive over nothing? I disagree with you and yet you take it as I insulted you I don't think so. You read one link and you think it scientifically proven that rich men like smaller breasts? I don't think so. I've made plenty of money in my life and I don't like small little breast. I like medium sized breast. I'm not going to waste my time clicking on your links. A link here and there proves nothing
@Iron_Man
It's an insult to go around accusing people of not knowing what they're talking about. I base all of my opinions on scientific evidence and facts
I didn't come to this conclusion by reading a single link. It's a scientific fact that rich men prefer women will small breast while poor men prefer women with large breasts. If you remind a poor man of his socioeconomic status while measuring his preference, he will raise it by a cup size. I read that somewhere else, but can't remember where exactly. Many studies have been done on the subject and that was the first link I found on Google. Your denial proves nothing except ignorance
LOL. I'm suuuuuuure you're veeeery rich. My ex was pretty rich too, but he started out poor. He tried to claim he liked small breasts, but mine are pretty big and he seemed fascinated enough with them. You can have whatever preference you think you have
Your statements prove nothing but ignorance. that's not true make a poll on this website and see for yourself. You're way way too cocky and I believe you
Oops It got sent to soon. I mean I don't believe you. Don't keep mentioning me in this thread
I am going on a short trip and I don't have time for this. I'm not going to be around to answer you back to defend myself
@Iron_Man
My statements are correct and based on scientific facts. Polls on this site aren't scientifically accurate nor do they represent the norm of society. If you want to prove my facts wrong, then go find a legitimate study that disproves them
You're the willfully ignorant one here and you can't change reality due to your denial
If you don't want people to reply to you, then don't go around replying to them first. This is my thread, not yours. You replied to me first, so it's your responsibility to not reply to me if you don't want me to mention you. I didn't tag you out of nowhere or hunt you down. You're the one going around my thread falsely accusing me of things
It's fine if you don't believe me, but your misbelief is on you, not me. I base all of my opinions and statements on scientific facts. And if you're not prepared to find scientific facts to counteract my points, you're just being rude by falsely accusing me of being wrong
@Iron_Man I like any breast size!
Don't listen to those links and others like them! Use your own judgement. I mean tell me what goes through your mind if or when a gorgeous man was naked or half naked in front of you? Don't lie to me. Lol
Most men have preferences, but are okay with any breast size. If you read MyTake, you'll see where I made those distinctions
I don't care about gorgeous men. I'm not interested in hookups or one-night stands. I need a man to prove that he respects me before I have any interest in him. Most gorgeous men are egotistical, self-obsessed, pricks, so I'm not the least bit interested in them. And I dislike nudity. I much prefer it when people dress well rather than stripping down and exposing themeselves
My point exactly. So do I. We're exactly alike lol
I'm back in town guys she is showing ignorance she is cocky and she won't listen to reasoning
@Iron_Man No she claims to derive answers from scientific research. She could be right lol. Although the research isn't accurate I believe.
I'm so sick and tired of her coming in here calling me when she's dead wrong
@Iron_Man Hopefully she is! Like I asked her below on this post," I wonder how women would feel if I told them that men are not as emotionally or intimately devoted to women? Only mostly physically sexual."
@Iron_Man But how can we be sure she's dead wrong?
Because I'm living proof brother and I don't like skinny little titties
@Iron_Man LOL!!! Hope she reads this. I want her reply.
I'm so sick of her already as soon as I get back into town she's already calling my name again
You got me into this mess why don't you take care of it instead of eating your popcorn and enjoying it?
@Iron_Man Enjoying It SERIOUSLt? I am despising this. How mentally tiring arguing with her it is about this and offensive it is to hear that women aren't as attracted to men physically then vice versa! That's not enjoyable to read.
@Iron_Man And what'd mean "calling your name"?
Tagging me in a mention. I don't want to fool with this girl anymore. Dude you brought me in here I said what I've said and I can't block her because she keeps mentioning me but if you block her it ends right now. I don't want to fool with this girl because she's going to get me upset and then she's going to report me for losing my temper and I don't want to get my account suspended as a master. I spent years here and she's not worth it
@Iron_Man That's weird I never knew you can't block anyone because of that. Dude who cares It's her opinion not a fact.
You're always dragging me into these type of heated discussions by sending me links and tagging me and leaving me little comments in private message. I come in here and back you up and you take off and don't say a word and now you come in here and instigate and you're looking for drama while you're having your popcorn and laughing. You're using me to fight your battles for you. I know how you are from all your post and by
the way we talk in private message. This is the last time my friend that I allow this from you. No more. I came in here for you that's the only reason I came in here because you wanted me to come in here. After all of this you can't even clean it up
@Iron_Man Well you're wrong for assuming that. I always reply.
I found this...
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q2580949-is-sex-drive-gendered-or-individual
I came in here and took over and you did nothing when I told you I was going on a trip then you come in here and you mention me and you do nothing on your own
@Iron_Man Nothing? I did everything! wtf? Look at the size of this thread
What is wrong with you man? I already proved her wrong.
You didn't do enough cuz you certainly called me in for help okay don't keep mentioning me I'm busy I don't have time to play games
@Iron_Man Good luck and sorry for the trouble.
Okay man good luck
I'm not wrong in my opinions because I base them on facts. If you don't believe the research I base them off, that's on you, not me. There are exceptions to every rule, but I base all opinions on facts
Male brains can compartmentalize sex from emotion in a way that female brains can't, so yes men are less emotionally invested in sex than women. Especially since sex releases the love hormone Oxytocin in women, further developing attachment
https://www.netnanny.com/learn-center/article/165/
0itsuptous0.blogspot.com/.../...men-and-women.html
But since people are individuals and all have differences, you will always be able to find exceptions to rules. This study shows that only about 6 in every 100 brains are completely one gender because most people have a slight mix of masculine and feminine qualities
www.webmd.com/.../how-male-female-brains-differ#1
Oxytocin is released in both genders after orgasm. And both experience a disinterest in sex and a refractory period after (only if her orgasm is clitoral). Men are very emotional. I know I am.
Yes it is released in both genders, but much more strongly in women than men. With male brains being able to compartmentalize sex from emotion, they can have much less emotional sex if they want to
Some men are emotional, but most aren't, partially due to genetics and partially due to societal upbringing. On the contrary, more women are emotional than not, making women in general much more emotional than men
Oxytocin causes disinterest in your partner sexually temporarily. And "they" is a generalization once again! Gender doesn't matter but rather the individual. Visual or not. Emotional or not. Sexual or not. Those findings are inaccurate.
Those findings are accurate no matter how much you deny them
www.psychologytoday.com/.../oxytocin-the-love-and-trust-hormone-can-be-deceptive
Not all people feel the need to distance themselves from sexual partners, mainly only people with insecure attachment types. People with secure attachment types become closer with oxytocin
www.livescience.com/42198-what-is-oxytocin.html
Yes I use "they" as a generalization because "they" refers to the majority here--the majority of women and the majority of men. Science has concluded that most men are like men in relationships and most women are like women in relationships
Women produce more of this hormone, although it’s not clear why, and this means they are more likely to let their guard down and fall in love with a man after sex.
Women produce more of this hormone, although it’s not clear why, and this means they are more likely to let their guard down and fall in love with a man after sex.
"Women produce more of this hormone although it's not clear why, and this means they are more likely to let their guard down and fall in love with a man after sex"
www.dailymail.co.uk/.../...akes-men-want-MORE.html
"The problem is that when a man has an orgasm, the main hormone released is dopamine--the pleasure hormone. And this surge can be addictive," Says Dr. Ghosh
"That's why so many more men tend to suffer from sex addiction"
verilymag.com/.../oxytocin-sex-differences-women-hormones-bonding-sex-trust
Even more interesting, perhaps, is that despite oxytocin being present in both women and men, it seems that women have a lot more opportunities than men to experience this feel-good chemical
So yes women experience more oxytocin released during sex than men because women experience more oxytocin release during non-sexual acts than men
ALL THOSE ARE INACCURATE!! LOL!!! Oh well that last part was adorable awww 😃😃. I would love to bond with her too after sex with all that oxytocin. So sweet.
But funny how that contradicts the notion: "Men need sex for love. Women need love for sex." Lol
All of those are accurate and no amount of your denial will change that. It's clear you're sorely misguided as you can't find even one study to contradict anything I've given you
You're wrong. I'm right. Science proves everything
You guys are still going at it and I am still getting notifications from you two. Why don't you guys put an end to this fast? Just put the gloves on and come out swinging and end it once and for all. I want to see a clear cut winner here
I have heard and read many things including the following, which I disagree with as well...
timesofindia.indiatimes.com/.../9026323.cms
www.alternet.org/.../what-happens-when-woman-wants-sex-more-man
www.smh.com.au/.../...-survey-20141118-11pffg.html
"Men want sex more often than women at the start of a relationship, in the middle of it, and after many years of it," Baumeister concludes after reviewing several surveys of men and women. This isn't just true of heterosexuals, he says; gay men also have sex more often than lesbians at all stages of the relationship. Men also say they want more sex partners in their lifetime, and are more interested in casual sex.
www.webmd.com/.../sex-drive-how-do-men-women-compare
Withholding sex is bad for (sexual) relationships
www.psychologytoday.com/.../how-sexual-rejection-really-impacts-relationships
And as for you last link, the key is in the wording
The survey, touted as the biggest, anonymous independent research on "digital youth" about sex ever, found that more women than men thought sex was essential, with bisexual and gay women making up the winning numbers.
Bisexual and gay women make up the winning numbers
Are you interested in a gay woman?
More young women and teens (who this study used) are gay or lesbian than in previous generations. Gays, lesbians, bisexuals, and generally everyone under the LGBTQ umbrella thinks about, talks about, and has sex more than heterosexuals. I studied this as well as had serious conversations with members myself on the subject. Gay and lesbian women tend to be more visual than heterosexual women
Yes "more often than men" gay or not. I believe it's just as often, depending on the individual...
www.womenshealthmag.com/.../5-myths-about-female-desire
... and why did you send me the 2nd link? I already know that and it's irrelevant.
But this isn't about what you "believe" and this isn't about individuals, especially not individuals who are outliers of the norm. This is about how men and women differ on a fundamental level. If they had "gay nad lesbian" women making up the difference, that is statistically significant and greatly affects the results. Furthermore, you're looking for a straight woman who is interested in you and I'm a straight woman who is only interested in men, so the visual-ness of non-straight women isn't what we're talking about here. When you add lesbians into the study you're using for this study, it doesn't work for this argument
I don't have a laptop right now so I can't post anymore links, but I know I posted a link on one of your comment threads somewhere that showed even lesbian women didn't have the same reaction as men physically to erotica and that women who claim to be visual still aren't scientifically stimulates as much as men are, so persona testimony isn't accurate
I posted that second link because it isn't good for either gender to withhold sex in a marriage. Your link doesn't prove anything. That is an individual experience and we're talking about genders as a whole, not outliers. You can't find a study saying more husbands withhold sex than wives because we all know it's wives that do and husbands complain because that have higher sex drives
You posted an irrelevant link yourself, so don't complain about my response to it
You're using articles that take studies out of context. The original studies say men are more visual than women and the new findings don't prove otherwise, only help better understand human sexuality
I've already proven men are much more visual than women due to fundamental differences in our brains structure. Any future denial from you is will full ignorance. You may consider getting yourself mentally evaluated for firmly believing things that aren't true
Well your links also don't have backup data. And women withholding sex more than men has nothing to do with drive, but rather risk of pregnancy. There are countless women I've heard that are visual and that have higher sex drives than their partners. Yes straight women.
And that other source that states that the addictive hormone dopamine is released mainly only in men is DEAD wrong! It is released in both sexes and the amount depending on the individual. That female doctor is throwing offenses on purpose.
Those studies are accurate and those doctors aren't wrong. The fact you don't have anything to prove me wrong only further proves me right
It is a fact men as a whole are visually stimulated while women aren't. And the women who claim to be as visual as men are scientifically proven to not be as visual as men, and are therefore exaggerating their visuallness
Men are more likely to cheat than women
Men experience mainly dopamine released during sex while women release mainly oxytocin
Any further denial on your part could possibly be delusion. These facts are not intended to offend, so the fact that you take offense to facts is a sign that something is wrong with you or just that you're incredibly immature
Yawns
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Talk in PM or your both going to be blacked for a few days. I'm sick of all the notifications week after week
@Iron_Man
Lol. I've been bored with this discussion for a while too
You can complain about notifications all you want, but sometimes I log in to more than 100 notifications and daily have 10-20 mainly from trolls. There's just no point in blocking that many people and I don't give in to bullies
The guy you're talking to on here is not a bully at all
@Iron_Man
Then he needs to stop acting like one if he doesn't want to portray himself that way. He's free to personally disagree with me, but saying I'm wrong and that my facts are inaccurate when I've proven the same thing over multiple sources is being a delusional, argumentative troll. If he can't accept that the facts don't fit into his delusions, then he needs to see a psychiatrist and get some professional help. This has gone past reasonable debate and discussion and has turned into a blatant denial of facts
@Iron_Man Exactly. I just have this gut feeling that women like her are trying to offend men - that they are clearly not into men intimately like we are into women. And that is basically what she is trying to do!
Hey girl...
www.theatlantic.com/.../
www.quora.com/Do-girls-get-turned-on-when-they-see-an-erect-penis
www.google.com/.../%3famp=1
Good comeback now you're making some good strides
You're further proving my points with those articles. The first one even points out the disparity between between men being able to compartmentalize sex and women needing more emotion. Now you're back tracking on everything and only proving you're a hypocrite
Erotica is meant to be erotic, so saying that erotica is erotic doesn't prove anything. If erotica wasn't erotic, then nobody would have sex and procreation would come to a standstill. Men and women's brains register erotic images at the same processing speed, the difference is that men are more turned on than women at these images, spend longer looking at them, actively seeking out material such as pornography more than women, and also are more likely to become addicted to the material
Some women like dick picks, but the vast majority don't. Just because a woman is turned on by the picture doesn't mean she's ready or wants to have sex with you and has nothing to do with wanting a relationship
Saying women aren't visual has nothing to do with nudity or dick picks. I don't think you understand what it means to say women aren't visual
All it means is that women are less likely to be turned on by strangers than men, are scientifically proven to not have as much blood flow to the genitals when viewing erotica as men, and that the majority of women need to get to know a man at least a little bit before sleeping with him. It doesn't mean that women are blind and it doesn't mean women are incapable of viewing erotic content as erotic
20% of women are visual or claim to be so. Women who claim to be as visual as men have been scientifically proven to be visual, but still not as visual as men or as much as they think they are. These visual women that I've met in my own experience tend to cheat more because all they want to do is sleep with hot guys and don't care about or respect relationships. Science proves men cheat due to strong visual urges and women for emotional reasons
The first link actually proves the opposite, if you read correctly lol.
And there are countless links like this...
www.mazewomenshealth.com/.../
Like I've heard before, being sexually visual and/or lusting for the opposite sex is considered a form of weakness. Many women, such as you, take advantage of this myth to be excused from such situations. But no more. Men and women need each, and so they are no different. At least in this category.
I've already proved everything I've stated as fact using studies and facts. Stop trying to feed your delusions
Fact:
Men are visual
Fact:
Women are not visual
Fact:
Women who claim to be as visual as men have been proven to not be as visual as men or as visual as they claim
I never said being visual was a weakness. If that's the way you feel, then maybe you should get some help for it
Well I don't know if you're lying or delusional. But if you want me to post a bunch of links that say otherwise, I can do that. If we aren't supposed to believe the links I posted, why should we believe yours? Or if we are supposed to believe the links you posted, why shouldn't we believe mine? See what I mean? Why are my links lies and yours aren't? Lol
Because we've already had this conversation and there's no sense in beating a dead horse
Your links use the same studies I've used, but misconstrue the results. The study that says women and men identify erotic material at the same rate wasn't published to say women were visual. The other part of that study said women also identify images of children at the same rate while men do not. Furthermore it did not say women were turned on by these erotic images, only that their brains identified them as erotica. Identifying erotica is not the same as being turned on (unless you're a visual man who gets turned on by erotic visuals)
The other studies you use aren't general population studies, so they're not effect samples. Using a sample of largely homosexuals does not represents heterosexuals, and therefore isn't relevant to this discussion
WTF that's not what the links say. And I see no reason why these links aren't accurate. Besides. All the links I posted are more recent.
Man power
Your links are inaccurate. We're using the same studies. I'm using the original conclusion and you're using someone misconstrued version of it. The reason why your links are more recent is they are nt a part f the original study. When using the same study, it is more reliable to use an original article fully explaining the correct results, not some recent one that came to its conclusion like a bad game of "Telephone"
You are wrong. It is a fact that men are much much more visual than women. Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself at this point
Oh well either way who the f**k cares anymore lol. Life is short anyway and much more important and BIGGER things to worry about than this sh*t.
What if I don't want children? I wonder what is the percentage of women who would be ok with that.
You're not going to be considered relationship material by most women
I can still pretend. Or better: become sterile.
That's so mean. Don't lead people on
Most women?
Wow. Very thorough!!!
Great take 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Thanks for sharing, that was quite comprehensive!
The correct answer is: Don't be fat and you'll be attractive.
Losing weight will help you become more attractive, but that won't help your personality
I speak truth and this response validates how shallow society is.
Your mentality shows how shallow you are. Society isn't nearly as shallow as you. Society cares about personality and emotion as well. You're the one hung up on being fat with no intentions of improving your health
I'm not shallow but society is. I find other fat women attractive because I have an open mind.
As a whole society is shallow but individually people are usually quite deep. If there is no emotional connection there is no future and most people know that.
This is an interesting Take :)
Some things can be changed.
I need a lot of money and a bigger penis to be more attractive to women.
You need a new mentality and personality to be attractive to women
I need the mentality of a rich man and the personality of a bigger penis to be attractive to women.
You already have the personality that you speak about--it's called having a huge ego. And no most women don't hunt down guys with a ton of money are large penises. Most women marry men of average income and average size. Many women even dislike large penises because they make sex uncomfortable for them
I got both and I'm also athletic. But I was born an INTJ and had ugly extroverts kick my ass in the dating world when I was younger.
For while I would get pissed off and frustrated at women for passing me up for some average looking douche bag who has nothing going for him other than he is "funny". But I realized my problem was that I was judging women by thinking they think the same way I do, but they don't. I don't like how they think , but they just don't. I have to accept that and so do you.
I then realized women not only enjoy humor but they like CHALLENGE. They want a confident guy to approach them but they also want to chase him afterwards.
So I started getting numbers, but I would hold back a few days afterwards to contact them. It is absolutely incredible the difference I could hear in women's tone of voice if she has been expecting me to call for a few days (worried I forgot about her) vs. just another typical dude who calls her the next day. Google corey wayne.
Totally agree with this take!
Thank you
You're welcome
Thanks
Wow! Clap clap :)
Aren't you a bit unstable?
Not at all. I'm an extremely stable person. I can hold down a job, pay all my bills on time and financially support myself, have a reasonable sized friend group, can communicate properly with people, and put responsibilities before play
I don't buy it. you're hiding a lot of crazy. there's also a saying that the people who dont think they are, usually are the craziest.
I don't hide crazy because I'm not crazy. I've been diagnosed with depression, insomnia, and OCD. Those are fairly generic disorders, easily treatable, and I maintain mine fairly well. I am sane
Whatever you want to tell yourself
It's not what I tell myself. I've actually had mental health professionals tell me I'm normal
Who has the money to spend on mental health professionals?
People who work like functional adult. LOL who doesn't? Is the real question. If you don't have enough money to visit a psychiatrist, then what would you do if you broke a leg or crashed your car and insurance didn't cover it? Adult work, make money, and save money for necessary expenses
I haven't been to a psychiatrist in several years. My mother forced me to in order to try and get them to give me some sort of diagnosis and medications for her to brainwash me with. They said I was mentally healthy and can function well in school and social settings, so I don't need any medications. I am stable
so you reported my comments as offensive, but you said that you won't fall for a bully... contradicting again stupid bitch
@razor97
LOL. Don't get so full of yourself here. I've never reported any comment that I've ever seen online, including yours. If your comments have been reported, that's because somebody else has seen how rude and offensive you've been. Don't blame me for getting your comments reported when you act like that
you're the one that reported my comments, none else did
@razor97
I haven't reported any of your comments--somebody else reported you for being offensive because you are. You've called me enough names here that anybody can see you've been offensive enough to report you. Don't pride yourself so much in thinking you've evoked that kind of response from me because you haven't
You're an insecure, unhappy, little kid who has nothing better to do than harass people online who disagree with you. You're not worth me blocking or reporting
you called me offensive and you reported me for that, don't pretend like i don't know
you called me names too, you started this, you called me bitter boy because i like to stay away from the crazy society. you said that loneliness is misery... which is not, maybe for you, but for me, it's the best thing that ever happened. i am not "harassing" you, you're a bitch by the definition, and i am trying to make you ashamed of you nasty comportment, you're arrogant, ignorant and really really dumb!
@razor97
I told you that you were being offensive because you have been. But I did not report you, so you can stop wining about it and go waste your time trying to find the person who actually did
I haven't called you names. It's clear in the way you write that you're very bitter about being bullied and girls not being attracted to you. You are miserable because nobody pities you and you can't see that you're lonely due to your terrible personality. You harass me everytime you comment on one of my posts, tag me in someone else's, or call me incorrect names. By definition, I am not a bitch. You will never make me feel ashamed because I have done nothing wrong or disrespectful--that is your own doing. I am confident, not arrogant; I am open-minded, not ignorant; I am really, really smart, not really, really dumb!
The more you continue this, the more you prove me right
you called me bitter boy, you said that i live a miserable life, which is wrong, because i am happy.
you are retarded
@razor97
You are an extremely bitter and unhappy little boy. Happy and non-bitter people do not force their misery onto other people or call them (especially false) names. It is clear that you are in denial of reality based on your naive and predictably jaded beliefs and misconceptions about life, people, and especially women. You're going to find yourself running straight into a brick wall with your disrespect and terrible personality
re·tard·ed
rəˈtärdəd
adjective
less advanced in mental, physical, or social development than is usual for one's age
informal offensive
very foolish or stupid
"in retrospect, it was a totally retarded idea"
Once again, you are describing yourself and not me.
no, i am not forcing anything on you, i am happy and you can't say that i'm not because you don't know, you're the retard here
Every time you type i swear you're talking about yourself
she does
@razor97
You're trying to force your jaded beliefs on me. You've told me before you're trying to start a war because you want everyone to think the way you do. You can't just go around flip-flopping and being hypocritical like that and expect people to take you seriously
You already told me you're unhappy because women don't pay any attention to you and people pick on you at school. No amount of denial is going to convince me otherwise, especially since you've already admitted it
Nothing about me is retarded. I know that for a fact because I was tested after my brother's diagnosis. I don't have anything in common with the autism spectrum and I am physically normal and healthy
@Returnoftheswole
Well this conversation has degenerated to petty insults, so yes I do have to talk about myself to clear up the wrongful accusations
i didn't say that i am going to start any war, i am not forcing my beliefs on others. that's your faulty logic. if i would want to change their beliefs i would try to make them my friends and convince them, or become a very smart leader... but this is not what i want, what i want is pace and anyone who wants to violate my intimacy and personal life should suffer
i didn't said that women don't pay attention to me, i said that colleges hate me because i'm ugly and i can't get laid because of this, but i don't care what other people think, they are the problem after all this is the reason i avoid them. and i'm a lot happier alone, which means that i don't need them at all. you proved me and other people how degenerate you are. you are unable to think. tests aren't even 70% accurate, your arrogance is showing, you even claimed to be smart. you're not smart, even your username is a contradiction, fuck off
@razor97
You said you wanted to wage a war get peace from it. You;re trying to force your beliefs on me--you've even admitted it. You aren't capable of making friends, so that plan wouldn't work for you even if you tried. You don't become a leader by forcing yourself onto people--you become a leader when people choose to follow you of their own free will
I haven't violated anything related to you yet you've been harassing me for over a month now--that absolutely fails your imbecilic claims. You've said women don't pay any attention to you since the start. Colleges don't like you because you're uneducated and can't write in complete sentences or with proper grammar. Again I don't approve of casual sex, so you're not getting any sympathy from me for not getting laid--go use your hand for something other than harassing people online and complaining about your life
I'm much more intelligent than you'll ever be. My username is no contradiction as I had no username when I signed up
Dating is tedious at times.
I needed this
Good general tips
All of above