I don't know exactly what you're trying to say since you left out the last word of your sentence, lol. But the photo is just meant to symbolize women taking the initiative more in dating. It was hard to find any other photo that showed a woman making the first move that was clear enough. It's just representative.
I actually tried that first. But I couldn't find a picture that showed (clearly) a woman giving a flower to a man. Evey picture showed the other way round.
Good take. I feel that if a woman asked me out it would be a huge burden off my shoulders. I often confuse being nice with genuine interest and get rejected all the time as a result.
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so stay single and dont have to deal with all this crap... .
@samhradh_leannan well honestly I didn't read it. All I read was "Chivalry goes both ways." and a bit about what was said about it. All i'm saying it chivalry is dead so there is no point even bringing it up. Which also extends to the next point about splitting the bill.
It doesn't really matter whether or not traditional, one-sides chivalry is dead. We can still fight for polite and considerate behavior to go both ways. You may not realize this since you didn't read the myTake (ahem) but I'm talking here about what we SHOULD do, not what we ARE doing.
You know, you're right, I haven't been on a lot of first dates/ casual dates. I'm more of a relationship person. That being said, I realize that a lot of this is easier said than done. I'm not saying that it is simple or easy. All I'm saying is that if our society wants change, we have to make that change for ourselves. It is not going to fall into our laps, is it?
Another poster said this below, but basically men paying for dates has to do with human nature. Men essentially have to buy sex from women, otherwise most women would not be interested in mating with them. The guys who insist on splitting the check on a first date and want to play the feminism and equality card are the ones who lose in the end, not the women. Because there is always another man who has more money and would rather try to fuck all the women. That's about it in a nutshell.
That may be the case, but that doesn't mean it is right or that it is how it has to be. And there are lots of women who don't need to be bought. I think if you can't fall for a guy without him paying for stuff, then he's probably just not the right guy for you.
I think it has to do with a woman knowing her own sexual value, which is a powerful thing. If a guy doesn't see my value, I'm not going to waste my time. It's like an insult to me as an attractive woman.
"I think it has to do with a woman knowing her own sexual value, which is a powerful thing. If a guy doesn't see my value, I'm not going to waste my time. It's like an insult to me as an attractive woman."
So you want men to pay for your the privilege of having sex with you? You do know what that makes you right? You guess it, a prostitute and a dishonest one at that. If I am going to pay a woman any money, I will pay an 'actual prostitute' as I am guaranteed to get something out of it.
Hey, I am genuinely interested in understanding what you're saying, but I need you to actually explain what you mean. I'm not sure how you are spinning a myTake on dating equality into something that is supposed to benefit women, especially since I am actually suggesting that women should contribute MORE to the dating scene, not less.
@burpzzzzz I didn't even think about this myTake helping women. I thought about it helping men and generally creating balance in society. But if it does help women too, so what? We all have to adapt and the more people who are benefited, the better.
@burpzzzzz. First and foremost , I'm Happliy married. And have never been outside of a LTR. I do not support MGTOW nor any man that is just bitter and sexist. I understand what you've mentioned, but that isn't my stand on the notion.
Asker... I took the time to reread your take. I believe I misread the take in the first place. I think it might be good for guys of certain character , personality and a certain age group as well. So , I'm sorry for misreading your take and it seems fair enough for those who can benefit themselfs with it.
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i agree completely and honestly quite like the last picture.
Using a proposal as a picture for "the first move" is a bit...
I don't know exactly what you're trying to say since you left out the last word of your sentence, lol. But the photo is just meant to symbolize women taking the initiative more in dating. It was hard to find any other photo that showed a woman making the first move that was clear enough. It's just representative.
Handing a rose would have worked too.
I actually tried that first. But I couldn't find a picture that showed (clearly) a woman giving a flower to a man. Evey picture showed the other way round.
I believe men should lead the way on a date: pay, choose location, open doors etc.. But both genders should stay off their phones!
Ugh, phones. I hate those pieces of plastic sitting on a restaurant table.
Good take. I feel that if a woman asked me out it would be a huge burden off my shoulders. I often confuse being nice with genuine interest and get rejected all the time as a result.
so stay single and dont have to deal with all this crap... .
I couldnt even get the person I like to hook up with me again lol
Chivalry does not exist anymore. Feminism killed that. it's over
You missed the point there a little.
@samhradh_leannan well honestly I didn't read it. All I read was "Chivalry goes both ways." and a bit about what was said about it. All i'm saying it chivalry is dead so there is no point even bringing it up. Which also extends to the next point about splitting the bill.
It doesn't really matter whether or not traditional, one-sides chivalry is dead. We can still fight for polite and considerate behavior to go both ways. You may not realize this since you didn't read the myTake (ahem) but I'm talking here about what we SHOULD do, not what we ARE doing.
Well I agree with that
I keep it old-school. Fuck this weak, liberal, beta shit.
ya me personally I've always hated and resented the gender role that guys have to be the initiators, because of how one-sided it feels.
Never considered thinking about the other's finances before. Thanks
Doesn't sound like you've dated much...
You know, you're right, I haven't been on a lot of first dates/ casual dates. I'm more of a relationship person. That being said, I realize that a lot of this is easier said than done. I'm not saying that it is simple or easy. All I'm saying is that if our society wants change, we have to make that change for ourselves. It is not going to fall into our laps, is it?
Another poster said this below, but basically men paying for dates has to do with human nature. Men essentially have to buy sex from women, otherwise most women would not be interested in mating with them. The guys who insist on splitting the check on a first date and want to play the feminism and equality card are the ones who lose in the end, not the women. Because there is always another man who has more money and would rather try to fuck all the women.
That's about it in a nutshell.
That may be the case, but that doesn't mean it is right or that it is how it has to be. And there are lots of women who don't need to be bought. I think if you can't fall for a guy without him paying for stuff, then he's probably just not the right guy for you.
I think it has to do with a woman knowing her own sexual value, which is a powerful thing. If a guy doesn't see my value, I'm not going to waste my time. It's like an insult to me as an attractive woman.
I prefer not to be bought. And I prefer to be valued for more than just my sexuality.
Just because a man values my sexuality doesn't mean he doesn't value other things about me. They are not mutually exclusive.
Then why do you need to be bought?
I like it, I don't need it.
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"I think it has to do with a woman knowing her own sexual value, which is a powerful thing. If a guy doesn't see my value, I'm not going to waste my time. It's like an insult to me as an attractive woman."
Did this come straight out of a tv drama?
So you want men to pay for your the privilege of having sex with you? You do know what that makes you right? You guess it, a prostitute and a dishonest one at that. If I am going to pay a woman any money, I will pay an 'actual prostitute' as I am guaranteed to get something out of it.
I'm just not getting married or getting into a relationship. It's not worth it.
Easy. Just be yourself.
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Good take
I agree
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Excellent take!
LMFAOSH...
Care to elaborate?
Not really !!
Hey, I am genuinely interested in understanding what you're saying, but I need you to actually explain what you mean. I'm not sure how you are spinning a myTake on dating equality into something that is supposed to benefit women, especially since I am actually suggesting that women should contribute MORE to the dating scene, not less.
These women are desperate now because very few men want to date them seriously.
@burpzzzzz I didn't even think about this myTake helping women. I thought about it helping men and generally creating balance in society. But if it does help women too, so what? We all have to adapt and the more people who are benefited, the better.
@burpzzzzz. First and foremost , I'm Happliy married. And have never been outside of a LTR. I do not support MGTOW nor any man that is just bitter and sexist. I understand what you've mentioned, but that isn't my stand on the notion.
Asker... I took the time to reread your take. I believe I misread the take in the first place. I think it might be good for guys of certain character , personality and a certain age group as well. So , I'm sorry for misreading your take and it seems fair enough for those who can benefit themselfs with it.
Okay, I guess that explains the confusion. Thanks for giving it another chance.
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